I have always thought of Sonic games like “rhythm” games. They work extremely well when you learn the level design and execute the best moves at the perfect time to blast through the levels faster and faster. Going fast and reacting fast gets you the best and fastest path through a level with all the extra power ups and red rings. That’s what makes them replayable for me.

@LBnMie

22 күн бұрын

That's funny because I was never a big fan of rhythm games but this is a really good way to illustrate how Sonic games work. Thanks for watching and sharing that! - LB

@woag4974

22 күн бұрын

thats a really good comparison

@lordpeeps1

21 күн бұрын

Dude i was playing project diva on my psp the other day and I legit thought “this kinda feels like sonic” while i was playing

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

@@lordpeeps1 Lol I never played Project Diva. It's cool to hear so many folks picking up older titles like on the PSP, though. I'll have to look that one up! - LB

@templecatt

21 күн бұрын

no wonder why i love rhythm games

It's the "fans." And this is why I play not only Sonic-but ANY kind of video game in general-just for fun. No politics, no nuances, just. for. FUN. For MY enjoyment, not because someone told me to. Great vid dude!

@LBnMie

22 күн бұрын

Absolutely! I miss the days when we would just enjoy games because we discovered them on our own. I mean, I get that reviews can help us make decisions on what we play but I feel like we've allowed them to dictate those decisions but that's also another video. LOL

@mehiloll

16 күн бұрын

I couldn’t agree more! That’s why I shamelessly love Sonic Lost World lol

@DADA-yt1pt

15 күн бұрын

I just hate it when people berate, mock or judge others for either criticizing or just generally taking issue with a game that they love, or doing so when others genuinely enjoy games that they hate. Provided if the game in question is not legitimately problematic, people should just think for themselves. No matter the Sonic game or era it's from, I also just enjoy what I enjoy and take no shame in it. And honestly, I wish that's what more people did while respecting each other's views on games.

@LBnMie

15 күн бұрын

@@DADA-yt1pt Yeah, exactly. If we're looking at this honestly, this problem with Sonic games highlights a greater problem with how folks seem to think that we should all like and dislike the same things. And we're talking about a series that's literal gaming history no less. Lol - LB

I hate how a lot of people tend to hate on adventure 1 ( and other games) for not having accurate momentum physics. Well man, let me ask you something, do you remember how the game was made in 1998? Do you remember how it had SEGA's time restriction of only 9 months of dev time? How they had to make 6 different story lines because SEGA wanted to show off what the Dreamcast could do? Almost all the games had something like that to hold them back, it's not like they WANTED to make a bad game or something, i really have a lot of respect for Sonic Team trying everything they can to listen to the fans and make a better game out of that.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Seriously, there's a lot of work that goes into game development in general but all of these factors ring true and it was amazing to see what Sonic Team was able to accomplish in such short periods of development time. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Ivan210bluboi

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie No problem! I enjoyed the video a lot! Also, " *ring* true" 😏, i see what you did there.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

@@Ivan210bluboi Lol Hey, it worked, right? - LB

@Ivan210bluboi

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie Yes i do believe that it worked quite well

@blaacksugar7714

20 күн бұрын

I actually like it's glitchiness. I can't imagine it being as fun if it played the way it was intended. Adventure 2 feels more streamlined with the Sonic/Shadow stages, which makes it fun in its own way.

Honestly, spark is easily the closest I’ve found, and it still has its own unique identity. Sonic has become the nickelback of the gaming industry, to an extent. It’s just mind boggling the treatment this series gets from its own fans, while a company like game freak has been phoning it in for like 10 fucking years lol

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yo! I have Spark 1, 2 & 3!! I almost included clips from that in this one but yeah. I enjoyed those and you're right, they come closest but something's not there for me. I think maybe that series just needs a little more time to cook (and a bigger budget if they LakeFepard could manage it). You're right about Pokemon. Someone here mentioned the "Nintendo Seal of Approval." Don't Pokemon games get those, too? I looked up a cover of Sword and it was there but don't own a copy myself. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@fabianugalde3789

17 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 Dude chill. I love Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny, but even then, I find Donald Duck, Daffy Duck, and other characters from the same franchise more entertaining because of the experimentation they've gone through. Donald has a family, has traveled to psychedelic and unique adventures to South America, fought in wars, and done other such things. This is why many people (including myself) like Sonic. They are characters that some people might find annoying, but they honestly have experimented with several things that make them entertaining and likable. For instance, comparing Sonic to Mario or Crash Bandicoot (other respected gaming icons), Sonic has delved into comics, a wide range of mobile games, has a lot of unique friends and rivals, has been part of distinct adventures as a knight, pirate, werehog, and other things. Mario, Mickey Mouse, and even Bugs Bunny (to some extent as the Looney Tunes have generally done a lot of things) have played it safe compared to Sonic which is why I prefer him (in addition to Donald and Daffy Duck). It's just my opinion, and of course, it will be hard for Sonic to dominate an industry at Sega's pace of game releases. Yet, I always look forward to what the franchise has to offer, and through the support of people, he might continue living amongst the big video game franchises

@gameboyadvancedsp6727

9 күн бұрын

​@@Warning-34079Unless you grew up in the 2010s Sonic, you've just described what I think of Sonic and Mickey, but opposite; in which Mario and Mickey are your stale happy-go-lucky smileyface (Mickey did got a cool redesign in 2010s), Sonic was the cool, radical-evolving One Piece.

@Warning-34079

9 күн бұрын

@@gameboyadvancedsp6727 Sonic is trash sega sycjs Mickey mouse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dogshit garbage sonic he a rip off of disney f)__k Sega and F__K Nintendo and F___K anime

Yeah, as a long-time Sonic fan it get's me kind-of annoyed that certain people have been crapping on Sonic games and immediately act like Mario is Mr.Perfect in gaming when Sonic is great too, even though an amount of annoying mistakes were made with that franchise. I know that the reason behind this unfair message of "Sonic had a rough transition into 3D" is that those KZreadrs choose to review the buchered DX port of SA1 instead of the less glitchy and better designed Dreamcast original version of that game, and that the reason why the quality of that port is butchered is because there are an amount of technical things about SA1 that only the DC console could handle correctly and the GameCube console that it got ported to couldn't because of the differences between those 2 videogame consoles.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

There's this popular Sonic KZreadr that made a video where he brought up this exact point, I linked his video at the end. If you haven't seen, it's an interesting watch! Thanks for watching, by the way!

@Hedgie3

21 күн бұрын

I did watch that other video a few days ago and I agree that it's an interesting watch because what that person was saying in it makes a good amount of sense.

@Jeanyawezm

5 күн бұрын

Ngl, one of the truest statements ever, Mario can re-release the same game with different packaging and people are gonna cream their pants over it, lol, and I love Mario but cmon

Honestly, i prefer Sonic over Mario

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

SAME and my reasons for this is from a gameplay design angle, as well as story. The story and characters to me have more depth. I actually cut that part of my script out of the video. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Chillin-jg8vg

12 күн бұрын

and Sonic has better music and the charactes actually have a personailty and his final bosses isn't the main villian all of the time.​@@LBnMie

@LBnMie

11 күн бұрын

@@Chillin-jg8vg Yeah, these are all points I purposely didn't even touch in this video because we could be here for hours discussing the quality of the music. I don't know how we go through all these big name game releases with these typical movie-style scores and not talk about the creative quality of a Sonic game's soundtrack. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

Yeah, why can't the internet just let people enjoy things?

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Lol I know! If you don't like something, you don't have to give it such negative energy. I actually don't like Mario games but I respect that others do--I know exactly why I don't like the games but there's no point in me making videos against the series. Even in the video, the only reason why I brought up Mario was to contrast the reception of game announcements to throw shade at the games or anything. Thanks for watching! - LB

@mrmelonman2893

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie criticizing isn't giving negative energy. idk where u got that from

Many of the things criticized in certain Sonic games such as simplicity, repetition, hazard placement, puzzles, and lack of visual cohesion consistently appear in other platformers with a vengeance. For example, the dinosaurs at Nintendo refuse to let Mario evolve yet they have such a hold on the industry that critics keep meatriding them like, "It's a simple formula, but it works!" Yet whenever Sonic tries anything new like adding a few different moves to use on different types of enemies like in Frontiers, critics are "polarized." Sonic's combat typically consists of jumping on or rolling into enemies, but doing anything more than that garnered unfavourable comparisons to Devil May Cry. It's almost like Sonic, compared to other platformers, has an unfair expectation to constantly be a trailblazer because of how revolutionary the classics were. Yet with something painfully unoriginal like Sonic 4 where level design and combat rely heavily on spamming the Homing Attack, critics call it a "return to form," as if any games they made in between have nothing of merit. Game journalists also can't stop getting off on mentioning '06, as if Sonic still needs redemption 18 years after that. It's perfectly fair to compare Sonic to other games, but game journalism in general is a joke.

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, I've noticed this, too. I didn't really go into much detail with this but it seems that the Sonic games and features that are generally praised are the "safe" ones that we always see. Whenever the series tries something different or new, it either gets ignored or panned immediately like as if we're all saying we want basic Sonic mechanics without any evolution. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@alecjoseph7833

7 күн бұрын

Mario is the Mickey Mouse of the video game industry . He’s widely loved and beloved by gamers and non-gamers alike . He’s the standards, the platform of gamers when they look at a video game character . He’s him and every time a Mario game is released, it’s good and fans agree. Mario is just an icon that revived a dead industry which was plagued with shovelware from the Atari 2600. Thus, mario can never be able to evolve or grow as a character.

@LorenzoDoesntExist

6 күн бұрын

@@alecjoseph7833 That's a great explanation of why they don't evaluate it objectively. He can wear a catsuit or throw his hat and people will lose it but he no longer truly innovates.

@LBnMie

6 күн бұрын

@@alecjoseph7833If everyone used that second-to-last statement you made as a reason for why Mario gets the free pass (and even why Sonic is hated), I think that would make the most sense. Since he was an icon for reviving the game industry after the big market crash, that means SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT and if people were to say "We hate Sonic because Sega tried to use him as an icon to bring down Mario," that makes total sense to me, regardless of the fact that there are good Sonic games and good Mario games. I still think that Sonic games are great for giving us something different from other platformers, though. And we'd be lying if we were to say that he did not contribute to gaming history as well but I'm sniffing an interesting topic to cover on the channel here at some point! Thanks for watching! - LB

I got into Sonic because I enjoyed the stories and characters. Sonic is just plain cool.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

3:10 Local man discovers franchise credibility

The difference with sonic and mario is Nintendo guarantees quality games so just a clip of him doing parkour is enough for them to know the next 3d mario is here and it’s gonna be good. but we’ve been let down by sega time and time again with bad feeling physics and terrible level design so we can never be sure about anything

@rslv5498

21 күн бұрын

This, reputation plays a huge part when fans see Mario running around they get excited because they can expect it to play well because of the expectations set by previous games they enjoyed, where Sonic is known for its inconsistent direction from game to game you don't know what to expect which is why new Sonic games are always met with skepticism from general audiences, the only people that don't act like are Sonic fanatics who only care about seeing Sonic because their identity is wrapped up in the brand.

@Kookie_13_

20 күн бұрын

@@rslv5498 I mean I was literally saying how we sonic fans are sceptical

@Bombastic_daioh

15 күн бұрын

Imagine thinking that Mario's generic slop can even compare to any of his 3D bangers lmao

Yes I genuinely hate how people hate on Sonic because they’re bad at the. I had told a friend of mine that they should play Sonic mania plus because it’s a pretty damn good game that’s not too hard my friend picked it up played the first act of green hill zone gave up sold the game told me it sucked and would constantly hate on me for liking it haven’t talked to him in a while due to him moving but yea

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Ouch. Yeah, the gameplay's not for everyone but dude Sonic Mania Plus is incredible! LOL - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@ItYaBoiGreen

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 what in the fuck are you talking about

@tophatdotrar

16 сағат бұрын

@@Warning-34079 swap mickey mouse with sonic, mickey mouse has less character tbf

" sonic had a rough transition into 3D! " doesn't refer to sonic adventure, it refers to the 1994 - 1997 period of time where all we got were 3D spin offs like sonic 3D blast, Sonic R & Sonic the Fighters in addition to the fact there were multiple 3D sonic games in the 90s that were scrapped like sonic Xtreme when you look at it from that standpoint - yeah sonic HAS had a rough transition. Issue is people just hear that statement and just think " sonic adventure " since it's the first *mainline* 3D game

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

I own and have played these games and have heard this before. It's a fair point as well. I think the better statement would be that he had a "gradual transition into 3D." There was some behind the scenes drama for sure (like with Sonic Xtreme) but not everyone knows that and like you said, there are those out there who say he had a "rough transition" into 3D in reference to Sonic Adventure. I feel like it's just one of those gaslighting statements, lol. Thanks for watching by the way! - LB

@evdestroy5304

19 күн бұрын

No, stop the cope. Most people are referring to Adventure when they say that.

@biohazardbin

19 күн бұрын

@@evdestroy5304 I think the only one whose coping here is you. 3D Blast, R, and Fighters were the true firsts, so it makes more sense to say those were the "rough transition" rather than a game which literally just tried to put the classic style of Sonic into 3D.

It's the popular thing to hate on sonic unfortunately, sometimes deservedly, most times not deservedly

People when they critique Sonic just aren't fair with how they do it. Even the fans who think they know better than the professionals who've been in the industry and with the series for years. Recently, I also came to the conclusion with how difficult it is to make just one single Sonic level in 2D and 3D. I'm glad that more people are starting to realize how bad people treat Sonic, even those so called "fans."

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's really hard to "know" what needs to be done to improve a game if you're not both familiar with the process and highly involved with the trial and error testing process involved. So, being overly critical about games that aren't even out just isn't fair. If you go into something looking for something negative, you're gonna find something wrong with it, no matter what but that's the catch 22--there's no perfect game so I wonder what it would look like if we went into every release with a more positive or even neutral attitude. - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

It is SOOO refreshing to see more people say this stuff. People are finally waking up!!!!! I've said similar things for so long, and it's so nice to hear someone else speak these thoughts!

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@LBnMie

18 күн бұрын

I'm super happy our video could resonate with you and so many. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie Well, let me break it to ya, my friend - Sonic and Mario? They're nothing but walking trash. Their games are dull and uninspired, relying on mindless platforming and repetitive gameplay. And those characters, Sonic and Mario? They're just lazy stereotypes with no depth or personality. Sonic? A spiky ball of cringe. Mario? A jump-obsessed plumber. And let's not forget their design - just forgettable and mediocre. Compared to the iconic characters of Disney and WB, they're downright villainous.

@tophatdotrar

16 сағат бұрын

@@Warning-34079 i can see your point with mario since hes an italian stereotype, but sonic has a good personality, also atleast sonics game have a proper story, mario is just "oh noooo the princess was captured by bowser i gotta save her!!!!!!" and then sonic shows up and is like "sonic gets trapped in cyberspace", or "OH GOD EGGMANS GONNA BLOW UP THE EARTH"

People weren’t just excited about a Mario game because he’s jumping around, it was a grand return to the more open-ended levels that a new Mario game hadn’t had in 15+ years. Not to mention, 3D Mario has such a good track record that people would get excited over the announcement even if it had no gameplay shown.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Bombastic_daioh

15 күн бұрын

​LMAO so Adventure, Unleashed, Generations, the spin off titles don't exist in your head@@Warning-34079 and besides, Mario's slop cannot compare to any Sonic games.

Honestly, great video Edit: and i just realized, ur Benevolence, bro i used to listen to ur music for ur indie game like almost a decade ago

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! And Yo! I'm still doing games and music! Glad you found the channel! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

There's a lot more to Sonic than just speed. My most fun experience in Mania was my first time playing as Knuckles and exploring it all, platforming and climbing walls and stuff.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

sonic advance 2 still captured that sense of 2D speed in the GBA that I only found years later with generations in 3D Matter of fact, SA2 speed can sometimes be so fast that Sonic sometimes leaves the frame behind and the camera has to catch up to him

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

I remember this! Sonic Advance 2 was my favorite of the Advance games because of the speed. That was a really great game, man. I feel like in discussions involving the "entirety" of the Sonic series, we forget that if we include the handheld titles, there were tons of good Sonic games. Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure were gems as well. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

You are so so right on this! I've been getting into the franchise proper since February and I spent a good first couple of months enjoying my time with this series. Everything about Sonic is fun and fast, and the two games I got to play by sheer luck of having available were Sonic Mania and Dream Team. Both titles are an absolute BLAST, and even though I had yet to check classic games like Adventure 1 and 2, I still felt the drive and the HYPE to play just about anything this IP had to offer. Heck, I immediately started considering investing on a good desktop pc so I can eventually check out everything in that crazy fangames catalogue that Sonic has. Any platforming game that follows the simple "zooming through a stage" formula that Sonic pioneered sounds hella appealing, and even if I suck at playing at the beginning, every time I try again I do better! until I master the gameplay or a handful of stages and the feeling is thoroughly rewarding and exciting. I honestly regret the moment I inevitably started stumbling upon and then diving into the fanbase opinions and drama out of curiosity. I knew it was bad, all the Internet does, but as much as I was sure it wouldn't phase me, it eventually started to take a toll on my enjoyment of this franchise as a newcomer. Holy hell, why can't people just let themselves have fun without feeling the need to be overly critical of something? the best I've felt when it comes to any sort of Sonic media (be it games, series, etc) is when I enjoy it in a state of pseudo-isolation and blissful ignorance. Just letting it flow through me, no wild expectations, just eagerness for what's to come, and I am mad that the Internet discourse on this or that minimal thing blown out of proportion gets to me one way or another, and makes me forget why I'm here in the first place. Luckily, videos like yours are like a grounding wire and help me shake all that negativity out of my system. Gone are all the guilty pleasures I was taking on elements of this franchise that a lot of people are so vocal about sucking ass, and instead I can take a step back, look at the whole picture, shrug, and say "you know what? I don't care. *I like this just fine* . I like this *a lot* actually". Thanks for that 💛 now I'm going to keep on playing Sonic Adventure for the first time and hopefully I'll get a better grip on the controls as I go further because oh boy am I running into everything like a dumbass lmao, I'll never get tired of this experience with Sonic games. PS: question! is there a specific version of Sonic Adventure that you would recommend playing? I got it running on a Dreamcast emulator with the original aspect ratio, but I saw footage of a widescreen version on this video and it caught my interest 👀 cheers!

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Hey, @Caquay--I really enjoyed reading your comment. Actually, its experiences like yours and mind that made me even think about the topic. You should enjoy what you want to enjoy, man! Also, to answer your questions, while I was making this video, I was using a copy of Sonic Adventure DX on PC through Steam and part way through, I installed what's called Better SADX. It's an easy-to-install mod that restores the original textures, lighting and models from the Dreamcast version as well as the Game Gear unlockables from the Gamecube version and Widescreen support! Try searching up "Better SADX" without the quotes! - LB

@caguay

20 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie oh, I never even stopped to consider there would be mods for that, awesome! The modding/fangames community is bonkers, I love it. Thank you so much, I’ll look it up! 🙌✨

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

@@caguay Yeah, dude. You'll find some really cool games out there, especially when you factor in the Sonic fangames and mods. There's this really cool one for the Steam version of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle on PC that allows you to play any stage that you've already beaten with any of the four Vs Mode characters, for example, playing a Sonic stage with Shadow, Metal Sonic or Amy. There's also some fangames that are complete games with story and everything. Have fun! - LB

I really enjoyed this video. For future ones I'd recommend lowering the background music. It can be both a little distracting and hard to hear you at some points.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! I'm a musician so I love the vibe that music pumps into these videos but sometimes that can backfire if it's too loud so I appreciate it! As a matter of fact, I thought about this when rewatching later on and almost decided to edit and reupload but when I looked back, so many more folks watched the video than I expected. Lol - LB

I never played a modern sonic game but I am always awestruck by the detail in the setting that we just simply blast by without a second thought.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, fun fact: The reason the other characters in Sonic Adventure have different gameplay styles is because Sonic Team felt it was a "waste" that they had put so much effort and work into the environments only to have Sonic just blast through them so quickly. Lol I prefer Sonic's stages, of course, (like I think most do) but if you ever wondered why the stages were being reused so much between characters for different gameplay, there you have it! For the 2D Sonic games, having crazy detail in the background works better since we mostly see just loop of 2D parallax layers. 3D is tricky. - LB

@deltram

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie cheers for the fact. Wasn't aware.

Had this video in my recommended for a while and I'm glad I finally gave it a watch. You captured my thoughts exactly here. I remember feeling gaslit into thinking games I always loved were terrible all along. I'm glad to see more and more people thinking past that now.

A major culprit of the "Sonic had a rough transition into 3D" sentiment is the modern versions of the Adventure games are ports of the already inferior GameCube ports - especially in the case of SA1. 99% of people aren't going to know SADX is one of the worst ports ever made and that the HD version is even worse. I remember as a teenager thinking SA1 was garbage because I played the DX version when it came out and never owned a Dreamcast. Having played the HD version with mods that restore it to its original Dreamcast state, I can see just how much better it actually was (even if still not quite perfect).

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, you know what's funny about this is that, back in the day, I owned both the Dreamcast version and the Gamecube version of Sonic Adventure. The issues with the port weren't super obvious at the time outside of the weird look of some things like the character models and the lighting. But, that Steam version of Sonic Adventure is quite the mess--installing that Better SADX mod did wonders and I immediately noticed the improvement to the overall feel of the game. Thanks for your input here and for watching the video! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Unpopular opiniom: I didn't care that Frontiers lost to Genshin because: 1.genshins art goes hard and I love it 2. The fact that a sonic game got nominated for a large award ceremony is absolutely impressive and we should be proud of that regardless

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

I like this take. There ain't nothing wrong with this at all! Genshin Impact has incredible art and gameplay. I'm not a fan of their monetary structure but anyone can play for free for as long as the game is online. Thanks for sharing this and you're 100% correct in saying that it was absolutely impressive for the positive reception of Frontiers to push it up there with amazing titles like Elden Ring and God of War Ragnarok in the Player's Voice award. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

I think the thing that Sonic-like indie games are missing is the challenge that Sonic gives you. No matter how you slice it, Sonic is hard. We just don’t realize it because we’ve been playing the games for almost our whole lives. It isn’t alt paths, cinematic spectacles or large open areas with collectibles everywhere that make Sonic good. (even though those things compliment the game greatly) Sonic is good because it takes polished skills to go fast, it gives you a sense of accomplishment, which was Yuji Naka’s vision. Spark 3, which is regarded as the greatest Sonic-like and is something most people consider to be better than Sonic in every way possible lacks that core factor that holds everything together, the challenge. Instead, the developer seems to cater more to what the community *thinks* Sonic needs. You soar over large chunks of platforming in these absurdly open areas with wild, out of this world momentum physics. All this is cool and all but it undermines Yuji Naka’s vision and ultimately misses the point, just as you stated at 6:40

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, and I enjoy Spark along with other Sonic-like indies (like Freedom Planet) but your comment is exactly the point I was getting at. Those games try to do the things that fans think they want from a Sonic game. That's also why they lack the replayability that Sonic games have. The sense of accomplishment is intended to be earned through speedy, skillful traversal but all of the other factors that are added in are like the cherries on top to the cake which is the fast get-from-point-a-to-point-b gameplay. I mean, that's the whole reason the timer is there in the game. It's to track how well you're doing in this regard. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@aperkins0627

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 It's crazy you're gassing up Disney and Warner Bros when Multiversus flopped and Kingdom Hearts 4 was announced two years ago and since then any information on it consists of radio silence. If you gonna gas up cartoons talk about Spongebob or something💀

@Chillin-jg8vg

12 күн бұрын

​@@aperkins0627 I agree modern Disney movies are shit and Warner Bros cancels all of their projects

The potential of sonic spin off's can give the series more variety. Characters like Shadow, Silver, Tails, Knukles, Rouge, Amy have various personalities and capabilities between them to open the doors for their own games. Sonic 06, SA and heroes gave us a glimps of what could be if each character or characters had their own games with their own adventures. Time for other characters to shine like how nintendo did for the spin off mario characters like DK, Luigi, Princess Peach and Wario. Though Luigi deserves more..

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

This would be great, actually! I never thought of having another Tails game, an Amy game or another Knuckles game. These are great ideas! Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Sonic is the best video game mascot in the history of video game mascots

i wish moist critical could see this because we need more positivity in sonic and moist is a good guy

@LBnMie

10 күн бұрын

That would be cool if he saw this. I watch his vids all the time! - LB

@gameboyadvancedsp6727

9 күн бұрын

He did talked about Sonic Adventure 2, and why it's his favorite Sonic game, but that's not enough...

Fans: *love sonic adventure* *Time passes* Fans: *all now collectively hate sonic adventure*

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Chillin-jg8vg

12 күн бұрын

Fans: Hated 06 Fans: All now collectivity like Sonic 06

@tophatdotrar

15 сағат бұрын

@@Chillin-jg8vg since when do we like 06

@Chillin-jg8vg

13 сағат бұрын

@@tophatdotrar Some Sonic KZreadrs say they like 06 and some people say they enjoyed 06 and people like 06 because of Mephiles.

So far I’m only about less than halfway through the video, but DUDE. You’re hitting the nail so hard on the head that it broke the entire piece of wood. This is what I’ve been saying all these years, and I’m glad I’m not the only one. Sonic is very overhated, to the point where even Sonic fans hate on the franchise. As soon as Sonic shows up all of a sudden everyone acts like they’re a 3000 IQ genius with a degree, pointing out the smallest things like Sonic’s quills (THAT’S NOT EVEN AN EXAGGERATION, look at what happened during the Sonic Frontiers reveal) and I get that people are skeptical and stuff but this is just too darn much. You don’t see Mario fans analyzing every single strand of hair in his flippin mustache. It’s so hard for people to enjoy things because they hinder THEMSELVES from enjoying it, and then wonder why “games aren’t fun anymore.” Games are meant to be fun, not a grade for a school test. And back when Frontiers was in its marketing stage, I was baffled how people were rating the game and marking it off as “another bad Sonic game”… *when the game didn’t even come out yet.* It’s just so strange. (They’re doing it for Sonadow Generations too) It’s like everyone has a bias an against Sonic no matter what, even the fans. People are barely supportive of the poor guy, how do they expect him to grow if we keep writing all the new games off as bad? Sorry for the rant, I’m gonna stop this here because I don’t want it to be too long. I’ve always felt that people were unfair to Sonic games, and I’ve been a Sonic fan all my life.

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@LBnMie

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, this is exactly what I'm saying. Growth isn't going to stem from bashing on the series. For some reason, people still think that it will but I think pointing out what we love most about the series will give Sega/Sonic Team a better idea of how to lean into improvement going forward. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

@Chillin-jg8vg

12 күн бұрын

People complain about things is Sonic like "Sonic games have gimmicks" "Sonic Adventure is buggy" while Mario has the fludd gimmick and Mario 64 is buggy as well but call it one of the best platformers of all time.​@@LBnMie

@LBnMie

11 күн бұрын

@@Chillin-jg8vg Of course, not throwing shade at Mario 64 but this is absolutely true. And personally, I feel like Mario is kinda tanky compared to Sonic in the adventure games.

This is a video I've been waiting on for a long time. Thank you I've been a Sonic fan since the 90s and am just tired of these modern internet lurkers who make it their job to whine and complain harder while calling themselves "fans" than someone who literally isn't. Sonic is the shit. Literally my favorite game franchise. That's not going to change because I essentially understand what "Sonic" is about. As long as Sonic Team continues to execute on that, I will keep loving Sonic. Sonic is about speed, and not necessarily how fast you are moving but how fast you are winning. Learning how to use his skillset and physics to do that is what makes the game fun..not exploration or padding... At some point I might make a channel expounding on the greatness of this franchise however in the meantime, this video did just that excellently.

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

Exactly! I once saw a take somewhere in which someone said "Sonic should try to be more like Mario" and I almost LOST IT. LOL Mario is fine for a lot of people, I get it but there are folks that want Sonic games for speeding through stages and gaining satisfaction through skillful use of the character(s) while doing it. I'm really glad that this video has resonated with you (and so many others--of which I didn't expect)! - Thanks for watching! LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

6:55 hearing this made me realize that yuji naka may be the first ever speed runner.

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Awesome video. I have fun playing my favorites. Agree on the point about Frontiers.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, I absolutely love Frontiers. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching! - LB

@edwardrobinson5470

19 күн бұрын

@LBnMie I love Frontiers as well, especially after the final horizon update, making Amy,Knuckles, and Tails playable. Amy's my favorite character to play as.

@LBnMie

19 күн бұрын

@@edwardrobinson5470 Yeah, it was SUPER nice to be able to play Amy, Tails and Knuckles again! I think Amy was definitely the best to control. The other 2 were fun, too. - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

I appreciate your video! It's nice seeing people speaking up for the franchise. I've played a variety of games, but sonic games are the ones that scratch that itch when looking for something fun to play, I'm tired of hearing that it's "bad" when it's "fine", and that it's "mid" when it's "good".

@LBnMie

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, at this point, it seems like we need an absolutely perfect game from the franchise for anyone to say anything good about the games when in reality it's a franchise that's just not for everyone which should be fine, too. - LB

@CC-ks6nm

10 күн бұрын

​@@LBnMie I think that even if we happened to get a "perfect" game, people would find a way to avoid giving it credit

@LBnMie

10 күн бұрын

@@CC-ks6nm This is probably true. There are times when I see some crazy takes on Sonic games that I really liked and it's like they're playing completely different games to hear the way they describe them. Lol LB

@CC-ks6nm

10 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie In my case, my problem is that I REALLY enjoy these games (of course there are exceptions tho!) and I'm not coming from nostalgia and I'm also not someone who ONLY plays Sonic, I have played a variety of games, but I really like Sonic, even when I believed everyone who said that the games were bad, I still kept buying them and having a good time. So, that should mean something! hahahaha

@LBnMie

9 күн бұрын

@@CC-ks6nm Lol I can totally relate! While some would argue that for me it's nostalgia because I've been playing the games since Sonic 1--I personally favor the later games that have tried to move the series forward (SA2, Unleashed, Frontiers). Meanwhile, I play all sorts of games especially indie titles and RPGs. Sonic just scratches an itch that other titles don't. I did a video essay here on Video Games in general and included clips for over 100 titles that both my wife and I have played. If I wanted to, I just couldn't stick to just doing videos on 1 single franchise. - LB

I bought Sonic frontiers with my own money(now broke) but it was one of the best games I've played. There were only a few things I thought could be better and I loved everything else to the fullest. Forces is good as well, just acting and animation needs work for that one.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Hey, thanks for watching! I felt mostly the same. Forces could've used longer stages, right? But it was cool making a character and replaying stages to try out different routes and get better clear times. It was also cool seeing Death Egg reimagined fully in 3D. The story had some issues as well but the bosses were cool and so was the music. Frontiers was just dope. I played that one mostly on a Steam Deck and I had a fantastic time with it all the way down to the final update's final boss. Good times! - LB

@V0id.is.everywhere

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie Yeah

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Great and well thought out take! I think that long-time Sonic fans have a lot of reasons to be untrusting and doubtful of the series, and it can feel hard to let the guard down and accept the good things that each game does. I loved how hard the Frontiers DLC was…and I’m afraid we might not see a similar difficulty return to the game series because of the complaints!

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, this is fair, too. I had the same experience with the Frontiers Updates. Playing Tails, Amy and Knuckles was dope and that difficulty spike was exhilarating. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Honestly though. Like I try to get sonic stuff on my youtube recommendation page but every time i do get something sonic related its leaks for a new game or just straight up hating for some of the dumbest stuff

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, man. I've been seeing a lot of the same for a long time which was the main inspiration for this video. Sometimes it's just better to not pay attention and to try things for ourselves. I feel this. Thanks for watching! - LB

@doomguy196

19 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie I get what you mean. Despite the negative feedback to Sonic Lost Worlds, i played and relly enjoyed it

@LBnMie

18 күн бұрын

@@doomguy196 Sonic Lost Worlds was pretty fun. I remember really enjoying the 3DS port of that one. - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

The reason ppl get skeptical about new sonic games compared to Mario is cuz of how inconsistent the series is While frontiers was well liked by the masses and was seen as a step in the right direction, it was a pretty bunny road to get there, everything after gens was either mid (lost world, forces), just outright bad (boom games) or a downgrade from what came before (team sonic racing compared to all stars transformed, forces compared to previous 3d boost games), mania was the exception If they want a sonic game to be revealed without ppl hyper analysing the game then imo shadow gens and the next open zone game need to be bangers to build trust and solidify to the fans that yes they have improved While the critiques can get out of hand and become irrational reactions like ppl already saying shadow gens has forces tier level design despite that not being true at all (fadel’s gameplay saved that games rep lol), some actually turned out to be beneficial to sonic team like the spin dash and momentum in frontiers and lesser focus on automation in update 3 Also idk why prem is here lol, I’d say he’s been pretty fair toward the newer sonic games

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

You should check out Shadicstick and Sonichub. Those guys are pretty positive about the franchise because they genuinely love the games and they offer fair criticisms as well but I don't recall Prem ever saying anything positive about a Sonic game, no offense to him, of course. I just get the vibe that he's ashamed of the series. Maybe he'll find another series he likes better to talk about one day. I had more to say here but I accidentally erased it, lol. You watched my video and I've already said what I said! Thanks for watching! - LB

@lemon5000-tj6nv

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMiehe’s actually liked what he’s seen of shadow gens so far and I’d say he’s been fair when talking about the level design and how mechanics can add onto simplistic linear levels and make them more interesting Idk why he’d be embarrassed of this series since he constantly calls heroes the goat and actually likes 06 and he actually thought frontiers was a decent B tier game

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

I just got frontiers a few days ago and I love it!

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

I definitely love sonic frontiers. For sure one of my faves. I beat all the platforming stuff eventually but from my experience the difficulty can’t from playing the whole game with the lackluster parry system to now needing perfect parries. It wasn’t a skill that developed through the whole game and so nobody was prepared to use it

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

I hear you on this. That perfect parry thing wasn't the BEST move to introduce 30 hours into the game but, like I said, fans and Sonic Team are both to blame with that. We asked for more difficulty and got it but Sonic Team should know better with their experience not to take feedback and say "OKAY" and slap us with exactly what we asked for because we may not know if that's truly the way to go. I think modesty is the word needed on both sides of the coin here. But, this is just my viewpoint. I think, like you just said your comment here, we should just stick with "I definitely love *insert Sonic game* here and make that love for the franchise stand out more before offering the very needed feedback. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

While I don't think any recent games have been amazing or anything, it's also tiring how much more heat Sonic games get for being average, or even good but not "good enough". I'm a longtime fan who does give new games a chance before voicing my opinion, and unfortunately no game since Generations has really hit that spot for me personally, even if the gameplay is decent, but I can also recognize that many people in fact do still love what the series is putting out and that my issues may very well just boil down to the games not being for me.

@LBnMie

17 күн бұрын

Yeah, there ain't nothing wrong with how you feel about the recent games. But, at least you play them and recognize that weird cloud hanging over the series. Lol You know, it's kinda strange because we see so many platformers gain and lose relevance over the years while Sonic continues on--even building it's fanbase and then people still try to argue that the games are "objectively bad" and should go away. Anyway, thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

it's easy for sonic fans to poke fun at IGN and other early creators/journalists exaggerating flaws, treating their opinion as law, and unfairly dragging the franchise through the mud; wish they'd keep up that same energy for modern creators/journalists exaggerating flaws, treating their opinion as law, and unfairly dragging the franchise through the mud. 🤪

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

Exactly! You know, your reply reminded me of a pretzel and now noticing your name and profile pic, I'm beginning to see how everything loops and comes together. Lol Thanks for watching! - LB

@Hard_Pretzel

20 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie everything's always connected 😂

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

This is the best video I've seen about this topic and just on Sonic in general in a long time. Unlike another recently post video you didn't waste time being mean spirited and complaining and got to the point, and you made great ones. It socks how Sonic is treated in the gaming world. It's hard to keep up with the news on the franchise because I have to avoid the Fandom and the gaming outlets because of how they all act and I don't want to taint the joy it brings me. Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices the change in people's mood when Sonic comes up like with Geoff there. I thought maybe I was being to sensitive or something. Anyway, fantastic video. You earned my sub.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@sonichero7

18 күн бұрын

@danel zack the thing with comments like yours is that it could be 50/50 a troll or serious from a "fan" or hater. Right down to the fact that you're spamming it everywhere.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

@@sonichero7 I'm sorry to break it to you, my Sonic-loving friend, but it's time to face the cold, hard truth. Mickey Mouse is simply better than Sonic. With his charm, wit, and timeless appeal, he's a winner through and through. But it doesn't stop there, my friend. Bugs Bunny? He also leaves Sonic eating dust. His humor, wit, and unforgettable character make him a true champion. So, while you may love that little hedgehog, you have to admit it's time to face the facts. Mickey, Bugs? Absolute legends. Sonic? Just a wannabe.

@sonichero7

18 күн бұрын

danel zack ...We're done here.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

@@sonichero7 once again, you pathetic Sonic fanboy, listen up. I'm here to deliver some brutal facts that'll shatter your little illusions. Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're so far above Sonic, it's not even funny. Disney and Warner Bros? They've got the character, wit, and timeless appeal that Sega's sorry excuse for a hedgehog can only dream of. So, face the truth, buddy, and admit that Sonic is nothing but a fading memory. Disney and WB? Legends. Sonic? Irrelevant.

Only thing you missed here is making fun of people who forget how to play video games whenever they start playing a Sonic game, that's always a classic. God though, for a personal anecdote regarding patented Sonic Fan moments tm, I remember back when the Sonic movie came out I was one of the few people complaining about how it's just.. not a very good movie, from jokes consisting of pop culture references near-exclusively to Sonic.. being best friends with a cop and everything in between, I wasn't taken seriously. Then the second movie kicked up the bad characterization, kicked up the pop culture references, the human sideplots, the generally bad writing what have you, and I've seen no complaints in regards to that from damn near anyone else. Then the Knuckles show came out, was.. honestly, about on par with the movies on everything I just talked about, and only now did people start complaining about all this stuff I'd been seeing for years lmao, and I'm just waiting to see people ignored all these aspects when the next movie rolls around because epic big chungus Keanu Reeves is voicing Shadow.

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

need this video to blow up in the algorithm so this message gets across to everyone

@LBnMie

11 күн бұрын

Hey, I'm just glad so many got to watch this already! Thanks for watching! - LB

Underrated. Remember me when u have a million subs bro 🔥🔥 sonic power forever

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@akioasakura3624

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079I respectfully disagree. live and let live bro

SA1 is my favorite 3D sonic personally... that's all I'll say

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Sometimes it's best to keep it simple. SA1 is a classic! Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@lord_klump3705

18 күн бұрын

@Johnny-34079 I agree I love Bugs... but Mickey? Hate that Rat

Sonic Baby !!! Cool video. Love the edits !!

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

Sweet! Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

I don't care what anyone else says, I had a fun time playing 06. I have fun with every game in the series. Sometimes they aren't the greatest games, but that's okay. Not every game needs to be a 10/10 for you to be able to enjoy them. I genuinely consider Mario to be baby games. They're fun, sure, I enjoy Galaxy the most, but they're *truly* repetitive. Hell, I found Mania repetitive because if I wanted to, I could play the classic four games. Mario is baby's first platformer until you develop the skills for something harder. Sonic is the evolution from baby to teen, at the very least. Sonic requires skill, sometimes it's skill that even I don't have. I've been trying to speed through Speed Highway on Generations for a week now, it's really made me see just how much skill it takes to play these games. That's what makes me keep coming back for the newest games, to see what they bring to the table. I'm breaking the number one video game rule today and that's pre-ordering SXSG! And not a damn soul will prevent me from enjoying it!!!

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Didn't expect the Harman Smith cameo.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Excellent video my brother

This is why Nintendo will flag you video or not sponsor you if you say anything negative about their games

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Hey, man. I guess we're just gonna have to be unsponsored, then. Lol Oh well! Thanks for watching, by the way!

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@STAXONDECK1

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 dude you are funny, I like Mickey and Bugs but this Apple to Oranges comparison that makes no sense 😂

@STAXONDECK1

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 Sonic is still the best

If "Speed" is the sole defining aspect of what makes Sonic what he is then it's no wonder this franchise and it's fans are so divided. That alone is not an identity, that is an attribute and not one that carries the franchise on it's own, so in turn what Sonic's identity is is in constant flux, and that's where the true problem lies. With no solid long term identity beyond adherence to being fast and some nebulous "attitude" the franchise became something that has instilled drastically different ideas in the many MANY fans who have picked the series up over the years as to what is right and wrong with it, and which specific aspects of Sonic are more important than others. Is he your typical shounen hero, or a showoff jock who just happens to have a good heart? Should he boost through linear levels dodging obstacles and doing precision platforming, or be an open free form adventure that lets the player choose how to play? Should or shouldn't there be a large focus on the characters and lore of the series, and if so should it be western or Japanese writers who should get the say what is or isn't canon? Is Sonic better as a video game, comic, cartoon, anime, or movie, and depending on your answer to that then which one? Frankly I very much understand why it's so easy even as a Sonic fan to turn on the blue prick, because what I like and what he means to me are just completely lost in the mix of constant attempts to change what Sonic is, what he was, what he should be, and where he's going. Yes, Sonic is about speed... but if that's all it's about then what is the point?

@LBnMie

19 күн бұрын

There are a lot of positive things that the series has brought like the characters and the stories but there's no reason "to turn" on the series unless it's something you don't like. The point is--do you like Sonic or not? If Sonic means more to you than speed (which he does to me) then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Personally, I prefer the Archie comics when it comes to lore (which I think I read somewhere are not canon) but it doesn't bother me none. Speed is what Sonic does best and I think trying to turn him into a carbon copy of some other slower platformer is maybe not the best idea. Thanks for watching! - LB

@DevasiaMentalityGaming

19 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie I'm not asking him to be like other slow platformers, I'm asking what he is to remain consistent beyond JUST the speed. Again, speed is a defining attribute, but there have been so many different takes on what you can do with that with very little sense of consistency that there's no way to truly define what Sonic genuinely is. I turned on Sonic because I got tired of that, not because of influencers but because I just opened my eyes and saw the lack of cohesion and the degradation that results from it.

@LBnMie

18 күн бұрын

​@@DevasiaMentalityGaming I think that those different "takes" are a result of experimentation on the side of Sonic Team and other studios they've allowed to work with Sonic on. Sonic's a lot like Batman in the sense that there's many different interpretations of his story and character--even abilities. But, yeah, it's okay if you're "tired" of that. We all have our preferences, likes and dislikes. Nothing wrong with that at all. There's no such thing as something being "objectively bad" unless that thing is disliked by every single person. There's love for this series and even the so called "bad" games that you or me may not enjoy are enjoyed by others in the community. Thanks for expressing your viewpoint, though! Interesting take. - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@DevasiaMentalityGaming

18 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie Different takes within different contexts is one thing, different takes within the same ongoing series is another, and the games are the most guilty of this, and they make up the core of this franchise so...

Wow you are the first one i see that is straight up spitting facts about sonic and it's community that no one understands nor see, and give the respect that devs deserve because developing a sonic game is really hard especially in the boost formula and stating that sonic isn't fit for everyone because i had a lot of friends that tried out sonic and that it was bad when in reality they just didn't know how to play and didn't understand that it takes time and practice ti just get a perfect run ( especially in unleashed) and nowadays people listen just too much to their favorite influencer and just copy paste their opinion instead of getting their own constructive opinion, that is one of the reasons that i cut from this community months before the release of sonic frontiers so that i could get a clean opinion about it without being corrupted by anyone and you are the first one to point that out, what an incredible video and channel to resume what the sonic Franchise is enduring

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Very solid points. You got yourself another subscriber.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Mario gets a new character: *"OMG YAS PLZ!"* Sonic gets a new, in-depth character: *"Again!? Stop SEGA, Sonic already has a bunch of characters!"* Mario's new game is the same story: *"A classic."* Sonic's new game has a new, ambitious "Bad guy's bad, good guy stops 'em" story: *"Was this necessary???"* Mario's world (stale and same-y): *"It's perfect!"* Sonic's world (ever-evolving world and lore): *"Who cares???"* Mario gets a bad game: *Memes or later forgotten* Sonic gets a bad game: *Career destroyed* "I like Mario!" *Sees you as Jesus.* "I like Sonic!" *Everyone laughs at you...* But seriously, what's the *REAL* problem? Nintendo: *Best people you can trust to make games who knows how the world work.* SEGA: *Japanese-bias who wants what they like work and think they know what they're doing, even if they don't...* And this will blow your mind: Mario taking some Sonic notes: *People loving Rosalina's story and depth (literally Sonic level of storytelling)* Sonic taking some Mario notes: *It's not good... (Amy from SA1 having a speed like Mario, and don't get me started on Lost World).*

@LBnMie

9 күн бұрын

Yeah, this is what I'm talking about! It's funny because I had some try to argue against that logic saying that I was just now discovering Mario's credibility but we forget that there has been more good mainline Sonic games than there have been Mario games (because Sega's usually pumping out multiple games a year) so just because he's had some games that some folks didn't like and maybe some bad ones, the majority of Sonic games have been at the very least good games. Saying that Nintendo's/Mario's credibility are the reason why new Mario games are treated better than new Sonic games doesn't actually hold up mathematically. Appreciate your input and thanks for watching! - LB

Hold up now, this point at 10:43 is completely wrong. If you suck at the game, you can choose to not like the game, but you can't blame the game for your lack of skill (which is exactly what Game Grumps got massive flack for). That's like if everyone decided to hate Cuphead because they suck at it, even though the game is purposely designed to be difficult for the average player. HOWEVER, your points at 13:58 are completely correct 👍👍

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Sorry if I worded this wrong. What you are saying is exactly what I was trying to say. If you suck at the game, you can't blame the game for it. If you don't like it because you suck is fine but that doesn't mean the game itself sucks. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Yup, you hit the nail right on its head.

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Hey, it's just my 2 cents. Thanks for watching! - LB

You probably started noticing a bit the real problem in your attempts to make a Sonic fan game if your mentioning the distance problem in the video is any indication. The distance problem is a symptom of the "3D Sonic games are bad" problem, but the real cause is the fundamental misunderstanding of not only what Sonic's gameplay mechanics are supposed to _feel_ like but also what they're supposed to actually _be,_ and which is why Sonic Mania (a 2D Sonic) is the last "modern" Sonic to have gotten it right after Sonic Rush or Sonic Colors or Sonic Generations, depending on who you ask. _Momentum and level design, not speed. Flow._ People keep citing that Yuji Naka interview about him trying to speedrun Super Mario Bros and taking it as gospel that he also meant Sonic was always 100% about speed, and there was an interview where Naka said that in the first game at least Sonic being able to outrun the game camera was an accidental bug but he left it in the programming anyways to keep the illusion of high speed, but then why were so many levels in the original Sega Genesis trilogy _not at all_ conducive to going fast, being extremely focused on tight platforming instead? Going from the first to the second to the third/third & Knuckles, more cartridge space and better programming compression techniques allowed for larger, more expansive levels with each successive game, sure, but Sonic doesn't speed through every level all the time no matter what speedruns may lead you to believe. Speed is just a means to obtain the momentum needed to chain jumps along suspiciously aligned platforms. The level controls the flow and speed of the player - wide open levels like Green Hill, Emerald Hill, Angel Island, etc are fast and loose, tight enclosed levels like Marble Zone, Labyrinth Zone, Mystic Cave, Sandopolis, etc are slow and methodical - and it's on a spectrum of size. Attempting to intentionally design a good level for platforming is pointless when you give the player mindless busy work like digging through Casinopolis or Pumpkin Hill with Knuckles for random emerald shards, or screwing up the physics for a giant ball with HP that needs to be escorted to a specific hole in a desert temple full of holes, no matter how large a distance you're trying to convey. Sonic Mania was made by peeps who literally reverse engineered the original Genesis Sonic games to figure out how they work, what makes them tick, and also made the official mobile and PC ports of the Genesis games and Sonic CD before Sonic Origins was released. I wouldn't be surprised if during the process of studying the physics and fundamental construction of classic Sonic they also cracked the code of its level design as well, and I wouldn't be surprised if that played a significant part in garnering the success that Sonic 4 couldn't achieve despite being developed by Dimps and Sonic Team. Modern Sonic games get kudos for trying something new each game, but sometimes they need to just take their fingers out of their ears and listen to the fans clamoring for classic Sonic gameplay.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Even if some sonic games are really bad no matter how much you argue all sonic soundtrack slaps hard

@LBnMie

Күн бұрын

YES. In an industry full of AAA games with forgetful movie-esque orchestral soundtracks this is worth SOMETHING, ain't it? - LB

6:50 I think you missed the point here, it's not "just speed" but alternative routes are an aid to speed, Probably people who play Sonic poorly play the same route without realizing that there is another one that takes them to the goal in less time. Collectibles (like in colors or generations) are not required, but rather add another layer of replayability and show the player more routes they can access. Not recognizing these factors as an evolution of the base idea is making it clear that you like the Sonic Games, But you have not been able to adapt to the new mechanics. Regarding the Odyssey trailer with the Frontiers trailer, I think there is a big difference between gameplay with an incredible visual style, vibrant colors and constant physics over the years And a game that has an animated teaser, and the gameplay that the press shows to unskilled people with a game with strange aesthetics and a very early build. I sincerely admire the people who still had faith after such a video, because it was one of the worst presentations of a Sonic game I have ever seen. Fortunately it came out to a mixed reception by the public, but it put Sonic on a pedestal again.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

You earned a subscriber today

@LBnMie

9 күн бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it! Saw your unedited comment and while I'm not into calling out folks, I will say this: Nobody is going to respect this series if the "fans" first don't respect it. Just because people who don't like the series say that the games are "mid" or not so great doesn't mean that fans should agree to appear "unbiased." - LB

I personally loved Sonic Frontiers and (at the same time) hated Mario Sunshine (literally, one of the worst games I've ever played) People need to 1st: stop comparing mario gameplay to sonic gameplay and 2nd: realize that both franchises are completely different in their own way. I think I love Sonic games just as much as I love Mario games.

@LBnMie

19 күн бұрын

Absolutely. Sonic and Mario are 2 completely different takes on how to handle platforming. But, I guess it's fair to blame Sega for starting the comparisons in the first place. LOL

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

"SoNic wAs NeVER goOd in 3d"

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Yes. Yes. Yes. I've played the originals on occasion, but aside from that, I'm not a fan. That is to say, I'm an outsider looking in; not part of the culture or fanbase. I can appreciate a thing for what it is; I doubt Sonic could disappoint me for that reason. And I think everything you've said is true.

@LBnMie

2 күн бұрын

I'm looking at this from the exact opposite spectrum so I really really appreciate someone like yourself keying in on this because there's real bias both within the fanbase and within that strange "anti-Sonic" community (not sure what to call those guys, to be honest). I've always been a fan so it's hard for me to say to anybody that I'm completely "unbiased" so there were a lot of talking points that I tried to avoid just because they were too subjective. Thanks for watching! - LB

@ManFromThePits

2 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie You're welcome! I enjoy hearing people talk about things they love - especially video games. It gives me a chance to taste something that interests me from another perspective. Especially Sonic!

you speak fax I’m subbing

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Catohat52

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 What is bro yapping about

personally, i can easily imagine a cool Sonic world that compels me to think about it, while Mario worlds are only cool in the moment as you're playing the games. i cant imagine making fan fiction for Mario, but i atleast occasionally imagine fan-fiction stuff about Sonic. Mario is cool, but Sonic is way past that.

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

This is another point that I left out of my script here. I really tried to avoid the old "Sonic vs. Mario" thing but yeah, Sonic's world feels more cohesive and there's a lot of interesting lore behind it. They say it's not canon but I REALLY enjoyed reading the Archie Sonic series of comics, they glued everything together and the universe (or multiverse, rather) within it was super compelling. Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

I think sonic frontiers is one of my favourite open world games just because you can go fast, Great video anyway

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Crash_Bash89

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 okay

i love sonic i love that guy

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

I feel like people want the same thing over and over. Nintendo tends to make safe decisions especially with Mario with a lot of the games feeling the same. Sonic Team like to try new things. Very rarely do they do direct sequels and a lot of games all look and feel different. Which is good and bad depending on your point of view.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Great video I agree

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser

Someone finally gets it! It also doesn't help that KZread's algorithm itself is unbelievably biased against SEGA, boosting the heck out of haters of SEGA and making sure that anyone who stays positive about SEGA remains practically unknown.

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

This would explain A LOT as I'm a big fan of the Phantasy Star series, yet, if I want to watch anything Phantasy Star related, I almost have to actively search for something to watch. Crazy. - LB

@jackmortikthesegafan9317

20 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie you know, if you're interested, I made a playlist to combat or at the very least challenge the algorithm for people such as yourselves. It's titled The Beautiful World of SEGA Fans, and it has positive representation of individuals from every SEGA fandom ever. No Nintendo hybrids, no haters, just pure positivity. It's a great tool for getting introduced to the REAL SEGA fans. Unfortunately, nobody's bothered to watch it no matter how much I plug it. I hope you'll try to watch it for yourselves and spread it around if you like it.

@jackmortikthesegafan9317

20 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie you know, if you're interested, I made a playlist titled The Beautiful World of SEGA fans: The Beginner's Guide. It features positive individuals from every sega fandom ever. No Nintendo hybrids, no haters, just pure positivity. I recommend it if you want to see the true nature of SEGA fans.

@jackmortikthesegafan9317

20 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie look me up sometime. I think we'll make fast friends.

@jackmortikthesegafan9317

20 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie I think we'll make fast friends.

I think some fans just never got over Sonic 06. Those who did, saw the potential it had and made a PC port with the issues resolved. Or played that PC port. Those who didn’t, became bitter and disgruntled losers who adopted this attitude that “Sonic sucks nowadays”. And I get it, the 2010s were really bad, with safe and boring gameplay, Sonic Boom, self deprecating “self aware” humour that was for kindergarteners (which came from a lot of fans that said that Sonic shouldn’t take himself seriously or have extra playable characters - like you said, fans giving “solutions” that nobody wanted). But we’re past that and fans are still moaning. Add nostalgia to the ever changing formula of a long running franchise and most fans are just annoying complainers that hate the new games because they’re not Sonic Mania 2 or Sonic Adventure 3. It also doesn’t help that most Sonic fans are young and entitled kids, full of idiotic opinions. I mean just look on twitter and see how many of them are unrepentant extreme leftists with an aversion to opposing views on their idiotic takes. That entitled, self centred attitude bleeds over into the “Sonic discourse”. When you add all these factors together, you get one of the most toxic and annoying fan bases on the planet. As for the other people, who don’t play Sonic games, I think it just comes from ignorance. Ever since 2006, “Sonic is bad” has been low hanging fruit for people who never gave the games a fair chance. There have been much worse games released since and before that point, but for some reason, Sonic is always invoked as the icon of bad games. Can’t really blame them though. Why should we expect anything different, since even the “fans” have this same attitude?

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, you hit the same point but I want to say from a different angle. Why would anyone respect the series if Sonic fans themselves don't? The "fan" base, though.......yikes. Lol Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

really good video

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@chandelight59

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 are you trolling?

@chandelight59

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 also, you do know it was an attempt to compete with Mario, right. They only time they tried anything remotely similar was Sonic unleashed. That game felt like a Pixar movie more so than a looney toons thing or a Mickey animation, I'd argue that the Sonic unleashed opening is better than any pre rendered cutscene in Epic Mickey.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

@@chandelight59 Listen up, my Sonic-loving friend, it's time to accept the truth. I understand it might hurt, but sometimes you gotta face the facts. Sonic? He's a wannabe. Nothing compared to Mickey Mouse's charm, or Bugs Bunny's wit. Sega's creation? A poor imitation. While Disney and Warner Bros are the real deal. So, sorry to burst your bubble, but the truth is Mickey and Bugs are the undisputed royalty of the animated world. Sonic? Just a pretender.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

@@chandelight59 Alright, my hedgehog-loving friend, let's state the obvious again: Sonic is trash. Mickey Mouse reigns supreme. Disney's iconic mouse has charm, wit, and a memorable presence that Sonic can only dream of achieving. Sega's mascot? Forgotten in the blink of an eye. Accept the truth, buddy, and embrace the fact that Mickey will always be better. Sonic? Irrelevant.

I like how you captured the entire sonic fanbase

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

My problem with sonic games is : 1. The fans 2.the linearity The fans I think is pretty self exploratory, I found most people toxic and they really don't like the idea of different opinions , for me it was sa2 that broke the camel's back for me , I didn't like sa2 at all , in fact I hate it , I'm even making a video about it. And the game design part , well , this one is pretty spicy, I think mario , dkc , kirby , banjo Kazooie, etc ,spoiled me , they have alot more bigger levels with more interesting mechanics and movesets (especially for mario) and they're full of collectables that are fun to collect that leaves the level full and without empty useless spots , they are even more fun to collect with each passing playthrough because of your skill increasing, but for sonic, that isn't really the Case , sure his levels are fine imo , but comparing them to other platformers , they are just so flat and empty and linear , with not much to do other to just run your way through them , not to mention that sonic really doesn't have a interesting moveset to be used unlike mario , so those were my complaints , let me know what you think

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

THIS is what I'm saying is fine. I cut out a point from this video script where I mention not personally liking other platformers for the reasons you mention that you like them. See, for me, they don't keep my attention because they're too slow and too open. I like blasting as fast as possible from point A to point B and most platformers aren't that way at all. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your preferences or my preferences but that doesn't mean one or the other straight up sucks. It's apples and oranges. And yes, some of the things I've seen so called "fans" of Sonic say and do drive me up the wall, too. We can be better, homie. Thank you for watching! - LB

@thepaperunicorn09

21 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie your welcome, I also had the smae mentality when I first played mario 1 after sonic 1 , I thought it was boring af , but eventually my mindset changed, but hey , you do you and I do me

@LBnMie

20 күн бұрын

@@thepaperunicorn09 Word. I respect this 100%. We should be able to enjoy what we want to enjoy! That's why there's variety in games. Thanks for keeping it real. - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Sonic is my man 😅

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Or...."Hedgehog?" Lol I think I get what you mean! Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

A lot of word soup in this, you got some good points but you also say a lot of things that do not relate to the video what so ever.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

Maybe if Sega didn’t release Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 06, and Unleashed back to back and later released Sonic 4 along those shitty storybook games Secret Rings and Black Knight and then two pretty good 3D games Colors and Generations but then release Lost World, Sonic Boom, and Forces when things seemed to be getting good, people wouldn’t shit on Sonic so much lmao. Mania was good and helped fixed Sonic’s reputation but Forces ruined it. When you release multiple critical panned games, people lose respect for your franchise. Crazy I know! It’s not like the same thing happened to Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed or anything. Sure the Advanced series, and Rush series were good but those aren’t big, mainline, Sonic games so most people aren’t going to care. Yeah Sonic is unique because it does speed. Duh. But like, so? That doesn’t mean everything Sonic does is good. I also don’t appreciate how you just shit on Mario when Mario unlike Sonic, DID NOT COMPLETELY RUIN ITS REPUTATION. That’s why people were immediately excited for Odyssey when it first got revealed. Everyone knew it was going to be good because it’s Mario. Not to say that Mario doesn’t have bad or mediocre games but compared to most game series and especially Sonic, a Mario game was most likely going to be a quality experience. When Sonic Frontiers was first revealed, of course people were going to be skeptical when Forces was yet another embarrassment in the Sonic franchise, was the last Sonic game released at that time. This video is literally nothing. There is no argument, no discussion. It just sounds like a Sonic fanboy seething and deflecting any fair criticism along with making excuses for the poor game developers. Guess what? People are allowed to NOT like things just like you’re allowed to like things. People are allowed to criticize things as well. If I don’t like a game, I’m allowed to say why I don’t like it. I’m allowed to not support a game, if it doesn’t look appealing. It’s the right of every consumer. I’m sick of tired of people like you calling everyone you give an ounce of feedback as haters. If I was a hater, why the fuck would a care about Sonic? Why would I even be commenting on your video? Maybe if Sega and the Sonic Team leadership knew how to handle on of the biggest game franchises ever, this wouldn’t be a discussion. Was Sonic always bad? Hell no. That’s not fair to Sonic’s overall legacy and games. Was Sonic always good? Hell no. That’s not fair to Sonic’s overall legacy and games as well. Sonic is just a mediocre franchise. Can you really blame people for completely trashing Sonic when the majority of mainline Sonic games have been mediocre or bad? I like Sonic. I just wish the games were consistently good.

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@Bombastic_daioh

15 күн бұрын

Lmao bro is seriously calling bangers like Adventure and Unleashed bad games. I seriously hope you are trolling.

@void_soup

15 күн бұрын

@@Bombastic_daioh I never called Adventure bad. And okay Unleashed isn’t bad by any means. I only mentioned Unleashed because of the negative reaction a lot of gamers had at the time about it. Probably should have been more specific.

@Bombastic_daioh

15 күн бұрын

@@void_soup So you called it bad even though it wasn't just because of the fan reception of it? I mean i heard some insane takes in my time on this website but this one takes the cake.

@void_soup

15 күн бұрын

@@Bombastic_daioh I don’t know if you’re new to KZread but Unleashed bad isn’t a hot take at all dude lmao.

Who the HECK complained about the updates, dude? Any serious fan didn't complain, from what I know, it'd be stupid to do that; they gave us what we wanted and we got to enjoy it. From what I've seen, the videos I watched were critical of the updates, but accepted them with open arms. Come on, all the dlcs were FREE. FREE. It'd be complaining about a freaking GIFT.

@LBnMie

2 күн бұрын

Dude, this is what I WAS saying. Funny story, I was on a trip to the Philippines the week that last update dropped. I spent a day (on 3rd world wifi) downloading it and REALLY ENJOYED when I finally got to play it. I came back a few weeks later to find my gaming news feed FLOODED with articles like that one that I shared in the video and the only guy I saw defending the Frontiers update was Sonic Hub. He was like "People need to git gud." Lol It was FREE! The gaming community has been complaining about how many unfinished games we've gotten and here we are dissing Sonic Team after they basically gave us live content updates for an entire year without forcing a live service model on us or making us pay for what was basically an expansion. After that update was downloaded, I disconnected from the internet and played it on. my. STEAM. DECK. OFFLINE. Lol What more can we ask for? - LB

boom rise of lyric

@LBnMie

2 күн бұрын

Honestly, I never got a chance to try that one. I heard it was crazy glitchy. But, Boom: Shattered Crystal was dope. It was like a Sonic metroidvania. Also, Boom: Fire and Ice was CRAZY UNDERRATED. It seriously disappoints me that not more folks talked about that one specifically because it was fast, had multiple characters with different abilities, secret paths, hidden stages, mini games (one of which was straight out of Sonic Triple Trouble), tons of collectables and really great music. - LB

Please start a sonic channel bro

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

ngl, the Frontiers DLC was, actually, too hard. Specifically for the fact that, they revolved it around the Parry mechanic, and the timing window for that parry were *smaller than fighting game inputs.* You remember Evo Moment 37? The part where Daigo parried every hit of Chun Li super and won the round? Yeah, Frontiers was stricter than that. They patched the values later to not be so ridiculously insane, but the damage was already done at that point (and so was my sanity.)

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@sauvagess

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 Why are you replying to my comment about Street Fighter?

I love Sonic but Some his games are great and some sucks

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

100%, man! Thanks for watching! - LB

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@pomosstream3202

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 to each there own personally I enjoy the Sonic games that I like and shelf the ones I don’t. Besides if he was as soulless as you say he wouldn’t have the status around the world he has. But he’s got far more fam then we personally will ever have so how has your greatness influenced any generation of anything I’ll wait

I just want sa3 bro...

@LBnMie

3 күн бұрын

NGL....SA3 would be pretty dope! - LB

@kenonerboy

3 күн бұрын

@@LBnMie tried making my own a while ago

@LBnMie

2 күн бұрын

@@kenonerboy Really? What engine were you using? Also, what characters were thinking to have playable? Did you make a GDD for it? - LB

@kenonerboy

2 күн бұрын

@LBnMie right now it was just sonic but if I remember correctly Tiara Amy and knuckles were supposed supposed to be playable at some point. I made it with the blender game engine. Its old as heck rn, but most of the stuff was made from scratch

@LBnMie

2 күн бұрын

@@kenonerboy Oh, man. Blender must be pretty good for that because I remember seeing a 3D Sonic fan game being made in it by one guy YEARS ago! Here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4CdpdpwiK-2mps.html - LB

I'm sorry, but Imo this video completely misses the point of why this is to begin with 2:06 . fact of the matter is, Sega has nobody to blame but themselves for not matching the quality expected of them. the franchise is so diverse that u would be hard pressed to find fans who can agree on what sonic games are good or not, contrary to other franchises such as Mario. at 2:37 u mention how fans are rating games before they come out as a negative, when I don't see the problem with that, as 1, games rarely change to a major degree after seeing gameplay, and 2 the whole point of seeing prerelease footage is to gauge whether or not this game is something for u. rating a game before it comes out is never a bad thing, especially if its something you have to invest in due it costing money. I'm going to be addressing all of these points in this vid 1 by 1. 3:34, u fail to realize how this comparison falls flat, because Mario games are known to have a certain level of quality put into them (which is recognized by almost all people), that sonic games lack. even if you're not a Mario fan like just like how I'm not a Mario fan, u can't deny at the minimum that Mario games are at least quality products. compared to sonic, Mario games can get away with this tactic, because of Nintendo's track record. Sonic games simply haven't reached the bar of quality expected by triple aaa games and fans have been burnt out by the series so many times, that they have every right to be skeptical of what they are seeing. 3:43 what u said here comes off as, "it's not that serious just enjoy the game" or at the very least gives off that energy. Fact of the matter is, it is that COMPLICATED because game design is a complicated process, and in turn video games are as well, so little things like the one in the choctopus example u gave, add up. 4:08. this point here falls flat for two reasons. one, If someone is going into release with cynicism its usually for a good reason or because its something they arent looking foward to. i dont know where this whole critique something before release is a bad thing came from, but its not. second, saying I'm going to critique something and that it comes from love of the franchise is not a copout. wanting a franchise to improve with criticism isnt a bad thing, and at 4:24, the franchise wouldn't have reached that point to begin with if the were able to maintain a consistent quality in the first place, im sorry that it was there last chance and peoples jobs were at stake but at the end of the day its still a consumer, provider relationship. if a store isnt able to compete with its competitors or just doesn't offer good enough quality then they have nobody to blame but themselves. games are supposed to get better over time and the fact the boost gameplay still hasnt improved, gotten better, or has evolved since unleashed, colors and gens, and has instead progressively gotten worse over time is just INSULTING. it has been 13 years since gens, it should've been surpassed by now. look at any other triple aaa or quality franchise like zelda, mario, gow, arkham, or spiderman. each game improves on the last in some way shape or form and evolves the series, so even if you prefer how things were in a certain game like how i prefer spiderman 1 over its sequel i could at least admit the sequel evolved in some areas. i cant say that for sonic games. 6:45 this point right here irritates me the most im sorry. The alternate paths and exploration is how you master these stages in the first place. Boiling down the sonic formula to just going fast completely misses the point. green hill is an open stage, has three path ways that each vary in difficulty and speed, sky Sancturary is mostly spectacle and is loved for its story moment in s3k, emerald coast is a stage i would argue is pretty open, city escape is memorable for its skateboarding section, spectacle, and introducing rail grinding. and windmill isle is memorable for its unique level design for the series up to that point as well as its solid amount of difficulty. each of these stages have something to offer to help negate the linearity or make good use of it besides going fast. Thats literally were the skill comes from. sonic games arent about going fast, any game could and has replicated that arguably better than sonic, its about finding ways to maintain said speed, whether through boost and avoiding obstacles with reaction-based timing, or momentum and gauging it to make skips. 9:51 ok so the point u made earlier is fine, and i agree. as a game dev myself, currently learning unity, dreams, and ue i understand your point. but besides with frontiers and its updates, i seriously dont remember a single time sega has listened to feedback, and least directly. maybe i was missing something but if there is a time tell me. 10:26 the fans responder appropriately. The "physics based platforming" focused on "momentum" wasnt actually there because, one this game does not have have proper momentum-based physics, or pinball physics, or anything of that sort, it all feels artificial, although in my opinion the platforming sections were some of the best in series for their creativity. and two, there is a fine line between good and natural difficulties, and bad artificial difficulties. The game forces difficulty by providing handy caps the game clearly want built around, and they never give the players the necessary tools to adjust as Amy, tails, and knuckles were too weak and had barely any combat options at launch to have a balanced difficulty experience. and the trails were too unbalanced due to the whiplash u get from doing an easy one, to doing one that introduced mechanics or didnt teach u mechanics necessary as well as not being designed right. couple that with a boss rush that strips and puts handicaps on the player, and adds mechanics the game clearly wasn't built around with the perfect parry and its not a good attempt at harder difficulty. in no sonic should a parry be 1/5 of a frame, thats harsh for even games that want that level of difficulty. couple that with it being delayed, inconsistent parry windows for each damn boss, (watch charrii5s sonic frontiers video for a breakdown for further detail about the parry windows) and no real indicator or animation(the line thing doesn't count thats not and indicator that just tells u the general direction of the attack) and its bad difficulty. spiderman 2 is a perfect example of how to do a simple parry, it has a before indicator, and has a timed indicator with the red spider sense, as well as having bosses having attacks with their own indicators with colors and a block so even if u fail the parry u dont feel overly punished. The problem isnt that sonic fans are overly hypercritical, its that sonic team knows how-to do-good difficulty. sonic unleashed is literally one of the most beloved sonic games in the community and is arguably the most difficult sonic game yet its so loved. thats because it had proper difficulty progression and every stage felt naturally harder than the last which culminated with eggman land, that didnt handicap the player, or put some weird restrictions or build mechanics the game wasnt designed for, no. it simply tested the players skills and everything they learned throughout the game to the test. The fact of the matter is that, sonic team was able to get difficulty right 16 years ago, but arent able to put natural, progressive difficulty in a sigle player game in 2023 is sad imo.(coming from someone who loves sonic frontiers). 12:47 this isnt true. I have seen many ytbers talk about this aspect of the series, such as premydaremy in his streams or j reviews, which is why many, including myself feel like the boost faulters because it isnt able to sutain a entire game on its own, which is why it needs some gimmick to stick. such as the werehog, wisps and 2d filler stages, classic sonic, whatever. which is why many have suggested to retire the boost and go back to the adventure gameplay as he doesnt cover as much ground

@biohazardbin

19 күн бұрын

You wrote all of this, just for it all to be pure copium. Do better, man.

@mrmelonman2893

19 күн бұрын

@@biohazardbin copium where? U didnt disproved anything i said and sume of the things mentioned are pure facts. Until u debunk me i dont care

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@mrmelonman2893

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 um ok?

so people on the internet is why sonic is on Nintendo hardware

@LBnMie

10 күн бұрын

Lol No. Sega left the console market for other reasons. They didn't sell enough to pay for the loss brought on by the costs associated with manufacturing the Dreamcast. This all happened before people started hating on Sonic which a lot of folks would point to the 2010s being that time. - LB

facts

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@drybonesmunchakoopas5143

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 is this ai generated?

@Chillin-jg8vg

12 күн бұрын

​@@drybonesmunchakoopas5143I think it's a troll since the fucker reply back to people comments.

I call it the GROSOE mentality. Get Rid Of Sonic Or Else

@LBnMie

11 күн бұрын

Yeah, someone else mentioned it here but when framed differently, it definitely seems like there's some sort of agenda against the series. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

You have earned... A SUB!

@Warning-34079

18 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@GottaGoFast91

18 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 why did you even write this comment to a Sonic Fan thinking he'll agree. Also, all I told bro, is that he earned a sub. IT'S NOT THAT DEEP!!!

your right, sonic never sucked, except when it did (*cough* forces *cough*)

@LBnMie

21 күн бұрын

Hey, man. I get it! It's too bad you didn't enjoy Forces. I 100% completed it and I enjoyed it myself but no one has to like or dislike everything. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

To me the worst games were Sonic 06 and Unleashed. That was pretty much the worst of them for me.

@LBnMie

17 күн бұрын

You know, there were a little over 30 mainline Sonic games (including handheld titles), so if there were about 4 bad Sonic games and 2 REALLY BAD Sonic games, the majority of them by a large margine were good. There's nothing wrong with disliking a few. I know there are at least a couple I didn't care so much for. Thanks for watching, by the way! - LB

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

MF what the f is that intro?

Nah he sucks

Also Sonic adventure DX is a terrible port.

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@chandelight59

15 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 I cooked you so hard you responded to another comment lmao

@chandelight59

14 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 Wow, I cooked you so hard you responded with the same exact messaging to another comment.

@Warning-34079

14 күн бұрын

@@chandelight59 too bad the truth hurts sonic sega dogshit like mario rip off of mario and bugs bunny

@chandelight59

14 күн бұрын

@@Warning-34079 And how many successful theatrical movies does Mickey or bugs bunny have?

I agree with your teacher, SONIC DIED on DREAMCAST, with that Shitty bugged mess called Sonic Adventure

This entire video is such a cope 😭

@Warning-34079

15 күн бұрын

Sonic? Pathetic, dull, and lacking soul. But Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? They're in a different league. Full of charm and humor, they leave Sonic in the dust. Sega's creation? A sad attempt to compete. But Disney and Warner Bros? They've got it all and then some. So, wipe away those dreams of Sonic supremacy. Mickey and Bugs are the real deal. Sonic? A loser.

@user-is2gu9ds7e

3 күн бұрын

Not cope most of his games are good it's just the fan base that takes everything to seriously and base every game on if it is what they want.

Sonic started Sucking at SA2. The boost lacks potential. The boost was only great in unleahsed before Frontiers. The boost truly began in SA2. SA2 has the seeds of the boost gameplay. Running in a straight line for a lot of the levels and boost pads everywhere. It took until Frontiers to go a step up from Adventure. The harsh truth hurts. Yes. I know that. A lot of fanboys will hate me for saying this but, it’s true. I’m not saying all Sonic games after SA2 are bad but, they would have been better if they didnt screw up with SA2. Repetitive shooting stages? Turns the Dreamcast off.

@inkchariot6147

21 күн бұрын

A whole paragraph just to spout bullshit. Seriously, come off it.

@lemon5000-tj6nv

21 күн бұрын

“the boost was only great in unleashed” no, just no…… Rush, rush adventure, generations and colours ds are literally right there….. Unleashed wasn’t even the boost at its peak, that would go to generations, gens actually managed to combine the reaction based gameplay of unleashed with a bigger focus on platforming with more open ended level design and alternate pathways that felt different sections of the level which gave a bigger emphasis on replay-ability and mastery of the levels