1:30 "The monster that took down Sonic"... Yes, behold, the clearly defeated Hedgehog.

@-megawolf-805

3 жыл бұрын

This comment is so underrated, lol.

@D00DM00D

3 жыл бұрын

Sonic: *tortured for 6 months* Also Sonic: 😃

@Ph03n1X87

Жыл бұрын

Just got a Sonic Frontiers ad with I'm Here XDXDXD OMFG THAT WAS PERFECT TIMING!!!

@TheGreatCragWyvern

Жыл бұрын

@@D00DM00D “Wow I’m in pain 😊” -Sonic

@BloopersINCjr

Жыл бұрын

2:31 “We need a shuttle to get sonic in time” “Good idea knux’s we gotta save sonic” said sonic…

As cool as the custom character creation is I really think tails really should have been the custom character. He uses gadgets and everything. Would have been way better than what they did with him.

@ninjanate5018

2 жыл бұрын

Even better, switch Classic Sonic with Tails. I always felt like Tails was supposed to take the place of Classic.

@robbiewalker2831

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninjanate5018 In hindsight, it kinda makes connecting Sonic Mania with Forces come off as a bad publicity stunt.

@ryansparks2131

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbiewalker2831 pretty much

@steamedhams9946

Жыл бұрын

plus you could swap out classic Sonic with Knuckles

@piranhalettuce

Жыл бұрын

@@robbiewalker2831 Yeah they could easily make it so that Classic Sonic gets teleported to angel island after the final boss fight and not get teleport to forces.

"Jealous you can't play on the slide Knuckles"... XD

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

he finally got his chance. xD

@mikeythompson6297

3 жыл бұрын

Knuckles: You were saying

*Sees the player rolling down a slope in Sonic Forces* "Oh you poor child..."

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

xD rip

@Teri_Merii_

4 жыл бұрын

I thought rolling down a slope gives you the most speed?

@VictorHedgehog

4 жыл бұрын

@@Teri_Merii_ That's not the case in Forces. They brought back the infamous Speed Caps from Sonic 1 into the physics engine.

@rsome977

4 жыл бұрын

@@VictorHedgehog But the speed cap only affects running in Sonic 1

@Darksoma

4 жыл бұрын

@@VictorHedgehog Played through Forces today. On my PS4 The Speed Cap only affects Classic Sonic when he's not in his ball. You do get faster when Rolling down a hill in Forces.

Ah yes my favorite team. Sonic, Sonic and Sonic.

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

aay Sonic team also likes that team. This sounded even funnier after I typed it so I'll just leave this here.

This looks better, but just by the nature of using Forces base level design it still doesn't look great. I give props to improvements, but fundamentally Forces just has boring ass level design.

@HikaruBaskerville

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. If they completely reworked th e level from the ground up, maybe then. Just a few tweaks to offer up more of a challenge doesn’t make it anymore interesting. If I could offer whoever made tis pack some advice: Take notes from the adventure games and everything that follows. Unlike the devs, you’ll be able to see what made the past levels so memorable and challenging, as well as set them apart from one another, because honestly, the only way to improve this game is to do everything from the ground up; narrative included

@vocalcalibration8033

4 жыл бұрын

this one speaks truth.

@owlmanz8171

4 жыл бұрын

It was made by 3 noobs anyways

@tailsthefox4504

4 жыл бұрын

Meh

@ecrao

4 жыл бұрын

Your are 100% correct the level design is really bad

The problem with the stages was the whole static nature of it. Surprisingly enough, the spectacle sonic team likes to put in the games actually matter a lot more than we think. Sonic didn't feel like he was going super fast in forces. That's my piece

@appleooza1920

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not talking about the mod btw

15:53 Rouge: "He's dazed!" That gave me Vietnam flashbacks to one of the worst bosses in the planet

@Jtmissile

4 жыл бұрын

Iblis?

@FierceSonic100

4 жыл бұрын

Jtmissile_AKA_SS870 Yeah lol. It’s just that boss felt like it took FOREVER. It was more of a waiting game than an actual boss imo

@na3th610

4 жыл бұрын

More like "He's gay"

@amandajohnson7234

4 жыл бұрын

@@na3th610 lol

@sewkrazy

3 жыл бұрын

Iblis? Yeah I agree

Yeah! Just throw some generic platforms everywhere. It’ll be fine!

@Yze3

4 жыл бұрын

That's basically what the level designers already did, so you can't really say it's worse lmao

@iam4026

3 жыл бұрын

The basic structure of the levels can't be changed much. So the only way to get around this is to squeeze in more platforms anyway. Still, they can change up the normal gameplay so why not? Anyways, in a boost game, there isn't much to do other than plough through enemies

@tabbywarrior

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yze3 it is worse

@cleanfoxboy9225

3 жыл бұрын

You're free to mess with a new generation game base codes and structure then

@cleanfoxboy9225

3 жыл бұрын

@@tabbywarrior then the original is better, phew! My work is done then bye!

10:01 the dragon ball series in a nutshell.

@DarrenN-lm5xq

4 жыл бұрын

Rana Adya ?

@ranaadya1541

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarrenN-lm5xq you dont get it?

@whatusaid5817

4 жыл бұрын

@@ranaadya1541 I get it lol. Good one.

@EuSouOKaido

4 жыл бұрын

I get it

@MorbiusStrongestSoldier

4 жыл бұрын

Lol cant deny that

Ah yes, a mod pack better than the original game

@isabelortiz1230

2 жыл бұрын

Not really

@rainerxultra2092

Жыл бұрын

Far from it. Only the level design (that it's still a bit trash).

@saraelliott9436

Жыл бұрын

@@isabelortiz1230it’s better

@drskiller7887

Жыл бұрын

@@saraelliott9436not really you still just hold foward

@MisterChief711

Жыл бұрын

@@drskiller7887 so literally sonic forces? plus that's not even the case

8:23 Silver is Rouge with Sonic’s voice. What the fuck

@colony_ark06

4 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo

@Pain_tami

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Eldoofus

4 жыл бұрын

friendly reminder that 11:55

@seto635

4 жыл бұрын

Nah man, that's Rougc. Totally different

@kaithehybridwolf9168

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if someone else saw that lol

while this is an improvement, it doesnt really make any meaningful changes imo. Levels are still linear straight lines, just a few more obstacles, and items you can use.

@jlr_0276

4 жыл бұрын

There isn't much you can do with the level design of this game tbh. Also the levels are too short.

@Maxshark999

4 жыл бұрын

@@jlr_0276 yeah thats been my general consensus with level mods for this game. Trying to improve the base levels is just a waste of time that wont actually accomplish anything. Best you could do is take the theme of the stage, everything else has to be your design.

@ultrairrelevantnobody1862

4 жыл бұрын

My problem isn't the linear levels (that would be poor criticism). My problem is it's linear design executed very poorly.

@ppvsonicspy

4 жыл бұрын

The linearity is not the problem with Forces, I actually think linear levels work way better for Boost gameplay. Boost gameplay should be fast paced obstacle courses, not open world adventures, in fact I think that works better for Sonic period. The problem with Forces was the very boring level design and very short stages.

@shadpio6347

4 жыл бұрын

Ngl I don’t enjoy modern sonic games because of this reason, I enjoy the Dreamcast era games because of the field of space you can move through

8:08 Tails: falling to my doom? This is fine

@AirlessVent

4 жыл бұрын

This is fine. I'm okay with the events that are unfolding around me.

Man this really makes me want more playable characters again

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

I miss them so much!

@0megaFan

4 жыл бұрын

@@sonicovertime Like, Sonic '06 is terrible but at the same time it's the last main line Sonic game to have multiple characters until Forces. And in Forces the characters are two (2) Sonics, a customizable avatar, and Shadow who only has three levels of his own

@PepeChadIsDaGoat

2 жыл бұрын

@@0megaFan And shadow is just Sonic but has a homing dash attack(A.k.a. modded sonic)

This should have been what the episode shadow stages should have been like or something

Sonic Forces you to play Green Hill 9 times (Seriously, that's the number of times you play in Green Hill in this game)

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@ffastt

4 жыл бұрын

shads4dads Gaming Gens has you play every stage about 12 times but then again the level design is way better

@Rocco1506

4 жыл бұрын

Sonic 2037 All stages are green hill

@maniacaal

4 жыл бұрын

Then there's Factory Hill, Space Hill, Forest Hill, Ruined City Hill, Metro Hill, Void Hill, and can't forget War Hill.

@Rocco1506

4 жыл бұрын

@@maniacaal dont forget about hill hill

8:23 So Rouge looks like Silver and talks like Sonic... Yeah, that's accurate!

I think it's ironic how they took out the Avatar when the "The Resistance needs YOU!" is a common motif all along the game's marketing with hints of it throughout the actual game. More of a focus on *you* joining Sonic & co. in the fight would greatly help the game more already, so it's kind of funny how fans choose the opposite.

Seeing Sonic on the costume character stages is makes me want a game where Sonic doesn't have boost, but he has grappling hook and weapons. I think it would work great and make some interesting levels.

@captinsparklezremix

4 жыл бұрын

To give Sonic another gameplay style and fragment the fanbase even further? Let's wait for Sonic Team to perfect something first.

@-KnightOfTheWind

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, most of the fandom didn't want some fresh things... *Cough* *COUGH* .

@Fernando-bq3cv

4 жыл бұрын

@@-KnightOfTheWind that's probably because every attempt sega has made on "fresh things" failed miserably. I think sonic team can easily make a good game if they just made a whole game with just modern sonic, no wisps, werehog, or classic sonic and also better level designs

@KaiserMattTygore927

4 жыл бұрын

@@captinsparklezremix Or they could do this crazy thing called "making a 3D platforming game" weird right? The boost formula is never going to be "perfected" its been done for 12 years and for people like me has sucked every step of the way. Meanwhile, Spyro and classic 90's 3D platformers are re-surging right now, take some cues from that.

@cauapereira1019

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserMattTygore927 unleashed perfected the boost but then they ruined it

15:18 Rouge signed as Silver

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

oOf

Ok, Amy having a boost, doing everything Sonic can do, Scares me

@Naruku2121

4 жыл бұрын

Not nearly as much as it would scare Sonic.

@AirlessVent

4 жыл бұрын

@@Naruku2121 oh no.

@possibly_ben

2 жыл бұрын

ever sa2 multiplayer? (aight she's nerfed a bit compared to the ultimate and *ultimate* ultimate lifeforms, but her 5 ring weapon of pure destruction makes up plenty)

8:24 It's obviously Silver, but it's signed as Rouge 😂

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

yeah I was playing this with really low audio so oOf lol

@XaneMyers

4 жыл бұрын

@@Usuario-bq4xx It's so strange to see Silver, who sounds like Sonic and claims to be Rouge.

@monoko1234

4 жыл бұрын

11:53 Classic Sonic is Rouge right here, but Tails still says Sonic.

@mastereli2058

4 жыл бұрын

While actual silver is the one beating the level

@AirlessVent

4 жыл бұрын

@@XaneMyers identity the crisis

Thanks for showing off that PUMA Shoes Sonic mod I made at the beginning.

@sonicovertime

4 жыл бұрын

no probs, I just like seeing them every now and then. xD

Oh this looks amazing! I already loved the base game and this looks even better!

@average_pyro

4 жыл бұрын

While i don't like forces, I can see why people like it (hell I liked it at launch) though after playing the other games I can see the flaws, making me not like it anymore

green hill's looking alot like sand hill

@bud3k70

4 жыл бұрын

Sand waterfall are great

@MetalMania343

4 жыл бұрын

The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent.

@Helicopter7

4 жыл бұрын

Budgraal Wouldn’t it be called sandfall?

@user-ds3hb5iq7h

4 жыл бұрын

Yet my reply generator has only lost 10% of it's combat strength!

Wow, silver was great

Every time i come back to this game i think "oh sonic and the avatar weren't that bad why didn't i enjoy this game more?" then i get to the classic sonic stage and i'm reminded why.....

It’s embarrassing when the fans have better level design than the game makers😂😂 That’s a nice “this is how it’s done Sega!!”

shadow's level was the best in my opinion, i could actually feel that im playing and that its a challenge. Great work!

Nice level design improvements

@CharaIsNotEvil

4 жыл бұрын

T P O S I N G N E S S

Amazing how I could tell within the first five seconds that the level design was an improvement.

Infinite broke Sonic's legs so now he has to use his trusty drill wispon to travel

To me, the main reason sonic forces’ levels weren’t g ood was because of its lack of engagement. The levels are just a bunch of paths and enemies lined up just so you can hold the square button (or the y or b button depend which console you play). No matter what little “special” thing you put on each level, it’s all going to basically be the same. Take a look at Sonic Unleashed for instance. *Rooftop Run.* That level is a perfect example of an engaging level. It lives up to its name; Sonic is literally running on rooftops. The only obstacles in your way is Eggman’s robots and crap, and you have to use that to your advantage. Yes, you boost a lot in that, but there are so many things in the way that you have to do more than just hold the same button; you got to use the sidesteps that actually work constantly, you got to occasionally slide under obstacles, and you have to react quickly to not get hit by anything. Let’s not forget to mention that Sonic is actually *interacting* with the environment. Like I said before, Sonic is literally running on rooftops. He’s going through buildings, breaking barrels, sliding under pots, *running up the clock tower and grinding down it with accelerating speed!* Don’t even get me started on the music for that level; let’s just say it complements the level really well. Going back to Sonic Forces, what level in this game is as engaging as that? *None.* There is nothing interesting about the levels that stand out, half of them aren’t even original locations, and the quick time events, despite them attempting at making something engaging, still lacked a lot. I’ll give the person who made these reimagined levels an A+ for effort; they attempted to make the levels more interesting, but the only way you can do that is by stating from scratch. Just a personally opinion.

The gameplay and the remake are amazing!!!

Knuckles is drill Tails is hover Rouge is void Silver's lazer Amy's block Shadows burst And Sonics lightning, there now they all have somewhat logical wispons.

this is so beautiful i could cry

14:40 Probably the most hated stage in the whole game, can we all agree on this? Most annoying

@colony_ark06

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah..

@projectgarchomp2380

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, that went to stage 16 (I think? It’s a classic stage, right?)

@donovanthefrog138

4 жыл бұрын

Stage 18 for me.

@gerardomartinez-cr5xb

4 жыл бұрын

Mine is stage 28, by far

@amandajohnson7234

4 жыл бұрын

I like it

If only this was the official sonic forces...

@Nicu-vy3gm

4 жыл бұрын

The levels are still very short

@LightTHC

4 жыл бұрын

It would still be boring as fuck lol

Instead of being modded in, this could have been brought in as DLC

@TobyKeithPS2

4 жыл бұрын

Or it could of been in the game to begin with

@pholl12

4 жыл бұрын

I still reckon it could of been brought to us as DLC A little later

YO this is actually sick, Sonic forces but actually kinda good

"Eggman is so close. Be careful, ROUGE."

Honestly I’m very interested in checking out this mod in the future. While the levels still don’t look amazing or anything, they’re still a definitive improvement over base Forces’s levels, and will at least give me an excuse to play the game again.

25:49 Wh... What??! The Sonic's stage and the rocky's stage are CONNECTED??!

@charliefunk3309

4 жыл бұрын

Rookie

@Gnidel

4 жыл бұрын

I had an impression that the stages are so short because they are longer parts split into pieces after executives forced Sonics into OC spin-off.

@projectgarchomp2380

4 жыл бұрын

I just wanna ask: what’s the name of the song?

@annramirez1740

4 жыл бұрын

Project: Garchomp it’s a remix and rhythm and balance

Super cool!

so cool!!! this is better then the real gane!

@CTOACN

4 жыл бұрын

game*

Very amazing.

4:58 Knuckles, do you even know who you’re talking to? XD

@exr879

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently no...

This is amazing

I don't know how much this adds, it feels like it makes it more cluttered rather than complex, which is not a positive.

Its much better but the levels need to be a little longer and worked on little bit to but I'm happy we got this as well :)

i loved to play sonic forces since 2017 it was the best year

It looks fun

Playing as Silver and Tails would be awesome, Tails needs his bravery back rather than just making too many gadgets, I’d love to play as Rouge again too but seeing her victory animations in Sonics style would be done and hot too in a way

This is way better. Playing as Tails and Knuckles too! That's my dream for Forces, but SEGA never made them playable. I do I like the Avatar though..

Can we all agree that there should’ve been a sequel but it just like Forces over Clocked, because that mid is AWESOME, and we also need more playable characters because everyone needs to be seen as useful

Clean intro

2:15 My dualshock always vibrates a lot when that happens

@jeronleekw

4 жыл бұрын

Mine does too

For Lost Valley I kind of want to see a more emphasis on the desert part because I feel like we didn't get enough of that in the original level

All the characters look good and the quality I love it

This is what sonic forces should've been, playing as everyone instead of just sonic and ur own custom Character

Sand waterfalls are great!

Imagine if they let us play as multiple characters instead of just 3 main, like they did with Sonic Heroes, hell, even 06 did that too!

I’d already pay the same price (hell more) for this better design

you better be on your guard, Rouge. lol

Gameplay! Finally!

that looked a thousand times more fun lolol

This video is an example of what sonic forces really could have been

4:58 Knuckles: It's up to you to save Sonic now. Find him! Sonic: Uh... Knux? You ok buddy?

You know, wouldn't it be funny if instead of blazing through the levels you could steadily go through them actually showcasing the cool improvements and changes

"What? Jealous you can't play on the slide Knuckles?" Silly Amy, he is on the slide

Wow tails nice sonic Impression

I like this. :0

You know what they should of done when tails was just with classic soinc put tails in some of the levels and run by classic soincs side and be able to use him to

I just realised, how in God's name is all the grass and trees so alive and green in green hill when theres absolutely no water to be seen. Just really shows how little thought went Into this change. Its such a good idea to have the iconic green hill fall into disarray with eggman controlling the world, shame it wasnt executed properly tho...

I think my favourite stages in forces were the first one were fist bump plays and the one 2d Cac one later in the game were you climb the tower. then again it might the be the music talking

Why is sonic in the avatar stages so cool looking

4:58 Welp, It looks like it's up to Sonic to save sonic now.

Why do I imagine seeing Sonic just swim through space when he said that XD

Content?! In MY Sonic Forces?! It's less likely than you think!

Sonic haters: whatever Sonic lovers: this is amazing

If those edited levels were given better textures, this mod would look pretty solid.

Hope the rumor was true that the 2021 title will have more than Sonic as a playable character. Some of these guys have been shafted for years

All we need now is reimagined badniks

9:47-9:50 Silver when he gets a great on that snake qte: GREAT!!!

looks like some locations and items from the classic timeline got into the modern one like green hill and chemical plant in forces and the classic badniks in lost world

Amy's go wild in there...

This is better as SEGA's Sonic Forces !. I like play silver and shadow to in all levels T-T. I hope SEGA make in future a game with the option to play all Chars. Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Rouge, Tails and yes the dark chars to maybe Infinite, Metall sonic .... and and and T-T

@pixelfoxshouse

4 жыл бұрын

ah yes. My favorite character. T-T. All jokes aside, sonic games are just better with more characters.

Oh wow. Challenge in my sonic forces game

At least they got rid of the autoscrolling part on one of the classic Sonic levels.

All stages go go go

Wow I wanna play this stage

The best oc: looks exactly like silver the hedgehog, sounds like sonic and is named rouge

“Two tails are better than one”! **Takes damage**

14:30 Amy: Jealous you can't play on the slide Knuckles? **Knuckles literally on slide as she says this**

Actual level design in my forces, huh?!

Instead of being able to get more than 100 rings when hard mode is selected, stages like these would've been a better idea imo

Seeing the other characters playable in this kinda makes me sad that we can’t choose a character to play as in the games in the first place 😂 Knuckles did kinda go well with the drill wisp move set though know I think about it 🤔

I really wish Silver was playable like he was in 06 that would have been perfect

Sonic breaking into the space port to look for a ship so he can get Sonic out of the Death Egg Seems legit