I wish Sega would let Sonic be more expressive. Imo Sonic's personality is what makes him so much better than Mario, and I think they should build off of that instead of toning it down.

@SludgePuppy.

4 жыл бұрын

We just need a 3d sonic game that has a good story and gameplay that helps sonic back into the spotlight and they should let other characters and sonic have personality like take blaze for example they dont even talk about that character anymore and the character was good so was silver there is so much more potential that they don't use

@funnysonicman

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely guys. I was watching Sonic Unleashed cutscenes the other day and it was crazy how much Sonic seemed to be going through after Amy didn’t recognize him. I know it may not sound like much but it really is, especially compared to the modern Sonic from the most recent main game, Forces😑

@skizzlers2756

4 жыл бұрын

@@funnysonicman exactly! In that cutscene in Unleashed I felt bad for Sonic! I wanted to hug him and tell him everything would be alright and it made me want to complete the game even more! When characters emote we feel for them. In Forces they built up all this tension saying Eggman's conquered everything, there's a war going on, Sonic's been imprisoned and TORTURED for MONTHS for god's sakes, and then when you find him he's as bright and as sunny as ever. All that tension fell flat on it's face because if our hero isn't the least bit concerned, why should we be?

@Iam-cz1ot

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed The funny part is in Mania when you look up as any character they have a different expression Sonic’s is him looking curious What ever happened to that

@alphabeta2100

4 жыл бұрын

@@funnysonicman Agreed. Even though Unleashed has character changes or inconsistencies (tbf not all stories are perfect), at least it wasn't to the same range/magnitude as a game like Forces

I don't trust Amy, she is the only one who wears clothes

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

I never trust ANYONE who wears clothes.

@ninjawafflezz5356

4 жыл бұрын

I always knew Charmy was a little traitor all along

@siraxolot4262

3 жыл бұрын

No wonder Sonic and Blaze fight in Rush!

@deyvantwo5426

3 жыл бұрын

Clothes are overrated

@xnortheast1106

3 жыл бұрын

Deyvan Salez no

Ngl, I kinda like this version of Amy. It makes some sense. She was serious in Forces too.

@Iam-cz1ot

4 жыл бұрын

I find it weird how they made Tails a crybaby, but they made Amy grow as a character

@EggFighterXB-

4 жыл бұрын

@@Iam-cz1ot It was an overreaction from Lost World Tails

@Iam-cz1ot

4 жыл бұрын

I really hope they start to make Tails grow again in the next game It’s probably not gonna happen unfortunately

@EggFighterXB-

4 жыл бұрын

@@Iam-cz1ot They will overreact from Forces and bring back Lost World Tails

@rappingbeaniedog347

4 жыл бұрын

if they keep this up, Amy might even be better than Sally. Sally is unfortunately dead forever. If Amy can be quirky and cute while having leadership roles she's trying to grow into while toning down her worst traits, she'll be pretty awesome and finally a character I can enjoy. Too bad most of that personality seems to be from the comics and not the game, where she feels like she has very little personality.

It’s honestly impressive to see how Ian is able to not only make the story much more in-depth, and better than sonic forces (the game), but to also make the characters much more than 1-dimensional. If SEGA ever want to see a “Sonic Forces 2”, they need to take notes off of this comic to be successful.

@nedmitchellholmquist86

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanieleMulas-up7np He has a point. While these comics aren't the most in depth thing out there, he only said that the comics were better and more in-depth than Forces; which you have to agree wasn't a high bar to begin with. I can't begin to label significant character traits to anyone in forces without looking at past games, meanwhile in the comics, the other characters seem to actually do things other than wait on Sonic to solve everything.

@Mr.AandDoctorMario360

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanieleMulas-up7np Ian did have to essentially reestablish these characters. And dfter the arc involving Eggman returning, it was to be expected they'd try something new. Even if you don't agree with what's being done in the story currently, you have to commend that Ian was able to make something a lot of fans are happy with out of the mess that was Sonic Forces' plot.

@Mr.AandDoctorMario360

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-rb3qp I have to say that's objectively false.

@rickyrackey7930

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think we will ever get a Forces 2 due to the horribly reception the original got.

In the context of Amy here, I really like how open she is, both to her own feelings, and to her acceptance of Sonic's goals. She caves easily because she understands that asking Sonic to settle down and fight with the resistance would seriously go against his own personal beliefs and sense of freedom, and trusts him to make the right judgement of his own abilities. Sonic, in turn, offers the suggestion that she come with him, just as he did with tails. In this regard, we see that Sonic isn't just wanting to go off on his own. He wants the freedom to handle eggman in his own way and help people in the way that he knows best (by being the big fast), but he clearly cares about Amy and wants her company, just like he does with tails. It's a far cry from back when he used to run from her or treat her like a nuisance. Here's he takes her seriously enough to argue his point despite not really needing to, and even reciprocates her feelings, to a point (whatever form that takes, for him). It's a really neat dynamic, in my opinion.

@Videokirbyo

4 жыл бұрын

" It's a far cry from back when he used to run from her or treat her like a nuisance. " The only reason he did that WAS because she was obsessively fangirl'ing over him. Every time she does something "lovey-dovey" in the issue #2 , Sonic instantly shoots her down. As soon as she gives up on "chasing" Sonic. He takes her more seriously.

@Tenkai___

4 жыл бұрын

You’ve realize a few things: 1. Not a lot of people will read it all. 2. Children will skip over ‘some’ important words. 3. And, there shouldn’t be more than 3 Composters In one sentence. (Sorry If “composters” are spelled wrong.) 4. The periods placement aren’t that realistic. You could fit 3 periods into the sentence on your comment. Like. Run-on sentence. 5. SOME words were miss spelt. Or doesn’t make sense into the position that was given to that word.

@rayraygrant191

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-rb3qp Stop using videos and talk about your explanations are you so disabled that your hands cant type?

@thevioletskull8158

3 жыл бұрын

The dynamic idea is good but I still don’t ship soamy except the Boom! version because in Boom version Sonic and Amy are both flawed but likeable characters,the fact that they care and fight with each is almost perfect though it can get silly. I need to watch the full show to get into this.

@Tenkai___

3 жыл бұрын

@Marcus _ idk

Catchphrase: "Welcome to Sonic Speed Reading where we speed through reading"

@zooooooooom

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe "Welcome to Sonic Speed Reading where we read through this speedy quest"

@kaistudios5536

4 жыл бұрын

@@zooooooooom I like that. 👌👍

@ShibuNub3305

3 жыл бұрын

“Welcome to sonic speed reading, where we do intensive, life threatening amounts of speed while reading”

@Ollie.H-2301

3 жыл бұрын

Perfect.

My favorite part of the IDW run right now is Flynn’s portrayal of Silver. As a Silver fan, I love what he’s doing with Silver and how he works knowledge of the future into the plot. Silver’s also just an adorable dork throughout the entire run, which I love, too.

@xnortheast1106

3 жыл бұрын

Nah

@tanyaharmon6739

3 жыл бұрын

@@xnortheast1106 nah

@handlename88

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanyaharmon6739 nah

@tanyaharmon6739

2 жыл бұрын

@@handlename88 nah

@deeznuts1568

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanyaharmon6739 nah

"sOnIc hElP mE" - Tails 2017 Also I'm glad that tails in the Idw comics he has a personality in comics because he is like sonic adventure 1-2,heros,sonic 2,3,tails adventure thank you sonic writers your doing great.

@rainpooper7088

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, they should have just replaced Tails’ voice actor with Luigi screaming *”Hyyyyiiiiiaaaaeeeelp!”*

@superepictoadbros6898

4 жыл бұрын

@@rainpooper7088 Sonic, wherever you are. *HEEELLLLLLPPPP*

@masterbison8957

4 жыл бұрын

"Sooooooonic! Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp! Help me, Sonic!"

@mediamuncher6982

4 жыл бұрын

@@masterbison8957 lol

@masterbison8957

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, and it's "sOnIc... pleeeeeeeeeeeez..." now. Not that Tails is the only character who has regressed, mind you. Eggman:"Metal Sonic, kill for daddy!" Oh, so you're his "daddy" and he's your little bitch? Cause the first story arc gave me the impression that they'd actually let him be something more than Eggman's mindless puppet for once. And i was never fond of how they've been portraying Knuckles and Shadow from the very beginning.

How sonic forces portrayed tails was basically a mess. He acts as if he can do nothing to help and says sonic help me if I'm sure Tails beat chaos 2 and has helped best eggmans empire Out of Angel island. Now he's back to relying on sonic as if he hasn't beaten things stronger than that fake chaos. These guys did a way better job with forces than sega. Doesn't help the fact that these guys worked on the notoriously violent happy tree friends.

@firstbits650

4 жыл бұрын

hello edge lord! how you fell the way shadow was portraied in the comics? do you like or u think it shadow have come back to pre 06 status as "edge over anything"

@zooooooooom

4 жыл бұрын

THEY MADE HAPPY TREE FRIENDS?!

@Mr.06_

4 жыл бұрын

@@zooooooooom no the writers of the games did.

@zooooooooom

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.06_ Yeah, that's what I meant

@G5onicDmi

4 жыл бұрын

@@zooooooooom yes

Wasn't tails being his own hero part of his theme in adventure "Gotta be strong wanna be like him"

@VincentEternal

4 жыл бұрын

MR.NuclearBlade 07 well I’m guessing the writers for sonic forces didn’t remember that.

@DarkShadic9632

4 жыл бұрын

Also, he defeats a giant spider at the end of his story and is like, “Wow, I’m mister cool strong man!”

@Mysticgamer

4 жыл бұрын

And his theme in SA2.

@onijester56

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Yes in that this WAS his character arc in Adventure, and how his gameplay operated in Adventure 2. The anti-precision platforming of Heroes was also semi-critical in this portrayal, because Tails' flight was the thing that made his character archetype distinct within the Speed/Flight/Power core of the game. But, well, after Heroes the games went pretty head-strong into Sonic as the focus. I wouldn't be above betting the entirety of my "Corona Stimulus Check" that Sonic Unleashed wouldn't have been as controversial if the Were-hog stages were instead treated as "Knuckles stages". Sonic Colors gave Sonic special temporary abilities, when you know full-well that other characters are known for doing those types of things...but fuck that, right? Fuck anyone who's not Sonic, because Sonic is Sonic!

@Mysticgamer

4 жыл бұрын

@@onijester56 Very true, I really hate that Sonic Team makes all these friends for sonic, then don't do anything with them. If they refined the characters gameplay and gave characters important things to do the games could be even better.

I feel like Sonic Team should really take notes on how Ian handles the Sonic cast, both with the IDW comics and the Archie comics that came before it.

@Mysticgamer

4 жыл бұрын

I feel sonic team should pay Ian or any of the IDW writers for a script to their next game. I'd buy a squel to forces if Ian handled the writing.

@thevenom2731

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mysticgamer the gameplay would also have to be good tho.

@mrchoochooguy4045

2 жыл бұрын

This aged perfectly

@Duplo_N

2 жыл бұрын

Thank God he is going to write the next game

@nomadspeed

Жыл бұрын

​This aged so perfectly

I think personally Amy has always had that leader/commander side to her but Sega hasn't always presented it in the games. But Sonic Heroes is a good example, I think it also has to do with Amy's empathetic side and how she's a very understanding character. She's willing to help others out. Because of this I wouldn't necessarily say Amy has replaced Sally's role as some say, but I can understand the frustration. I've never really been familiar with the freedom fighters but I know unlike Amy, Sally has consistently been represented as a leader, hell she's a princess. But like you said in the video Amy and Sally will handle it differently, and I agree, they're different in both their written personalities and how they handle their roles as leaders.

100% agree. I'm glad you addressed the Sally Vs Amy debate. The two handle leadership completely differently.

@bella_daze3092

3 жыл бұрын

Bro I didn’t know it was a thing until now lmao lol

I know it was just a side point in the video, but honestly the part about them focusing on how characters are portrayed is an interesting one. The fact that Sonic can't cry makes me upset, because it limits his character and makes him feel less believable as a character. SEGA did this in the Archie comics as well, there are some comparisons between story boarding and final comic strip that shows Sonic's emotions being heavily toned down. I know you'll get to it with another video, but Shadow is the best example of that and is a pretty big insult to his origins. It feel that they want to make Sonic appeal to everyone by stripping down characters and make them as strait forward as possible, but in the process destroying that character's identity. This was a great video and I can't wait for the next!

@beardo5468

4 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree, Sonic actually having a character is what made him stand out against his contemporaries at the time-- but now we're in an era where games are getting closer and closer to movies with realized characters. Just having some 'tude isn't gonna fly.

@sonic5993

4 жыл бұрын

@@beardo5468 As said in the video, Sonic is a corporate mascot first and a character second as far as Sega are concerned. If Sonic looks weak, then it makes Sega look weak....by Sega logic. It's the nature of the business

@amesstarline5482

4 жыл бұрын

While I do like Tails' characterizing, there's some notes to believe the Mandated were Flynn-made, not Sega-made.

@ChaosXTheProject

4 жыл бұрын

A while ago i read that Flynn had planned a better thing about shadow, but SEGA wanted shadow to be the stubborn, filled with toxic pride, vegeta-esque guy.

@blazefa519

4 жыл бұрын

@@amesstarline5482 Source?

I wish the characterization was this good in the games, it would be so fun Instead of “It’s been gEnErAtIoNs since I’ve seen you buddy buddy!” Thanks anyway Ian Flynn👏

Friendship ended with Cybershell. Now Game Apologist is my best friend.

@not7170

4 жыл бұрын

Cybershell ain’t coming back

@tariqdotpng546

4 жыл бұрын

sadly

@DedeHedge

4 жыл бұрын

@@aortaplatinum Packed his bags and Went

@TheRealHedgehogSonic

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Game Apologist is: 1. More consistent 2. Keeps promises and doesn't steal 3 (This one's important). Doesn't misuse the word "autistic"

@mechajay3358

4 жыл бұрын

@@not7170 Never say Never

6:27 Seems Tails is picking up on some of that cockiness from Sonic, cute. It reminds me if the subtle things like in the Advance titles where he tries to copy Sonic's poses and fails (until Advance 3 iirc, he's surprised that he finally poses right). Something similar happens in the OVA when they meet Metal Robotnik. Man, it's things like this why I've always fucking loved the Sonic series. It's always expressive, even in subtlety.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

It's why he's more sassy in the games since Lost World.

For me personally, my love for the IDW comics ultimately boils down to the near excellent characterization for the characters, as Sonic Forces did such a poor job at portraying almost every character in the game. Sonic is cool and cocky, but knows when the situation needs to be taken seriously. Tails doesn’t feel like a sidekick and feels more like a partner to Sonic and crew. IDW even managed to make me start liking Silver, a character who I wasn’t even all that fond of to begin with. Everyone feels like a competent hero in their own right that makes up a Resistance, rather than just a back up team for Sonic while he handles the main boss.

@alejandrolozano4919

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that sonic adventure 2 when Eggman going to send sonic to space to blow up sonic tell tails to stand up when he fall. He take he place

I think, for knuckles, the word you’re looking for is “motivation.” Knuckles entire motivation is protecting the master Emerald.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

I'd say it's his apart of his family, culture, and ancestry. His bloodline is intrinsically tied to the Master Emerald and Angel Island to the point where he can physically feel if they are disturbed. If it wasn't for Knuckles' isolation on Angel Island then he wouldn't be as gullible, overly serious, or even probably as good of a treasure hunter. I Knuckles could put a leash on Angel Island and bring it with him, he would.

@MDWolfe-ks5fu

4 жыл бұрын

Chocov 123 Those too.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@MDWolfe-ks5fu Yours was also good. 👍

Tails and Amy are written perfect in IDW, I still miss the Freedom Fighters but I’m ok with it, Knuckles I normally have much problem

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

Wish Amy's temper and Tails fear of loud noises were more prominent. Perhaps later on in the series.

@polillafly2863

4 жыл бұрын

I miss Scourge and Fiona

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@wizrad2281 That's cool.

@xnortheast1106

3 жыл бұрын

Rodrick Young no

@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19

2 жыл бұрын

Tho cant say that for shadow tho-

Honestly, the IDW comics do a pretty good job at portraying these characters, even with the limits Sega puts on them (like shadow...who’s probably the most eeghh character unfortunately :[ ) like .i genuinely felt hurt when a handful of the characters became zombots in this arc, my gosh.

@Jamfrog35

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed... both on how Ian handles it and how Shadow was portrayed. Shadow to me is in similar case to batman in the sonic series than a simple vegeta character. They are both heroes in their own right but does things their way. they both have a terrible past that bring them to what they are today, and despite being the big loner, he has a family of his own after losing his first one [Rouge and Omega]. In truth, if they kept the inhibitor rings idea, if they focus on that core idea for both the comics and games instead of making him a rival, I would like Shadow more. [In truth, I feel like that's what Ian was aiming for with his first introduction in the IDW series, but I guessed SEGA wanted a different approach]. Who knows, maybe SEGA will allow it, but we will have to wait and see.

And this is why I'm going to say this for the millionth time: REPLACE PONTAC AND GRAFF WITH IAN FLYNN

@rickyrackey7930

Жыл бұрын

It happened.

I kind of wish that the writing team from the comics and Sonic team can just come together and make a game from the comics. Or at least have the future games be based off the comic series.

@paperluigi6132

4 жыл бұрын

That and include fans who truly feel how the characters/lore should be written.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@paperluigi6132 Fans have too many contradicting opinions. Sega/Sonic Team should only bring on proffesionals and people who have proven themselves capable of participating in a team project and sacrificing their ability to have their ideas implemented from time to time.

I personally do not understand where this "Amy is a Sally clone" argument comes from other than a misplaced sentiment of frustration from SatAM/Archie fans... and I say misplaced, because Sega nor Sonic Team are at fault since Amy was always meant to be the lead female character, while Sally is more the product of a spinoff cartoon and hardly the important part of the franchise many people say she is, especially considering that the only reason she and the FF's were kept around was because of the Archie staff rather than a direct instruction from Sega. Other than both being leaders in their respective universes, that's pretty much where the similarities end. Sally is a leader because she comes from a royal family and therefore is a figure of authority whom others have to follow. In contrast, Amy's leadership come from her personality and charisma, with others following her lead because they choose to. I also disagree with the idea that Amy's leadership is something new brought up out of nowhere. In Sonic Heroes, we see her lead her own team on a rescue mission. This was essentially the next logical step in her character development because previously in SA1, we see Amy grown into a heroine by herself and helping a helpless bird. In Heroes, she now helps characters who much like her, had no experience and guides them throughout their adventure, always keeping their morale, believing in them and never letting them give up whenever they felt scared or their hope faltered. And it's not only in Heroes, but also the comics and cartoons were Amy displays sparks of being a natural born hero... Even in the second issue of Archies' Sonic Megadrive, after Sonic decides to go solo, we see how Knuckles makes an attempt to lead that does not result well for poor Tails, while Amy succeeds because she encourages team work and has a way to bring people together. Another argument I've seen is the issue of her being too young and no mature enough... And while that is certainly true, personally I don't think that maturity matters because being a leader is a question of attitude, not maturity. An example of this is John Connor in Terminator 2, who despite being around the same age as Amy, also displays leadership qualities despite his age and even flaws (since he is a delinquent kid), being one of the more important scenes the one where Sarah tries to smash the CPU of the good Terminator, which John stops her from doing and makes Sarah realize that she is holding him back from becoming the leader humanity will need when she refuses to trust his judgement. Of course, Amy can't do everything on her own, and it's here were her rriends and the other characters come into play. In the IDW comic, we even see some like Blaze who offers advise and input on her plans, like when they went to liberate Angel Island. IMO, Amy is not a Sally clone nor a fill-in. She is her own character and earned the role on nothing but her very own merit. To say otherwise is to brush off all the development invested in Amy, which is in line with one of the key traits of her persobality: having a strong desire to help others. Her only reason to take on the role is not because of personal recognition, fame or duty... It's the people in need. This is why she politely refused Sonic's invitation to join his adventures in IDW#2 and why she formed the Restoration to help people rebuild their world after Knuckles literally quit out of boredom and without even bothering to tell her.

@mistushipper

3 жыл бұрын

YES. THANK U. UR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND IM MORE THAN HAPPY WITH THIS ESSAY. AMAZING BROSKI!!

@MelancholiaLapelada

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! Somebody have to say it

@johntingler4649

3 жыл бұрын

So true

@hdnimbus073

2 жыл бұрын

Well put. 😁👍

I really like that now that Amy’s grown and matured past “girl with crush” she actually has a lot more chemistry with Sonic and plays off him well, it’s cute, and it’s fun

Oh, I can't wait to watch this. Sadly I have homework to do, but mark my words, I WILL return.

@ZoZo-fh6tq

4 жыл бұрын

Good luck soldier

@Sovic91

4 жыл бұрын

I'm baack. Excellent video as always.

Not even the blessings of Ian Flynn's "make characters good" can fix Shadow, I hate what Shadow has become, I miss the "I will protect earth and my team" in SA2 and 06 and not "friends are weak" or "I don't need anyone" in Boom and TSR

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

To be frank, I sorta rolled my eyes with Shadow and kept going forward. That said, it DOES need to be addressed, and I hope they handle this a little better going forward. Certainly wont be the last time we see Shadow.

@striderzvezda7420

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think the way Shadow was portrayed was Flynn's fault. Ever since Sonic Boom, Sega has been pushing the idea that Shadow is esentially Vegeta and will seek any opportunity to antagonize Sonic... Logic and character development be dammned.

@MegaSonic94

4 жыл бұрын

Strider Zvezda yeah, Sega has been writing Shadow like this since Sonic Boom

@jdudehl6079

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like after 06, they made Shadow’s character way too much like Vegeta..Sure, Shadow may not be a very cheery fella but he doesn’t need to become a Vegeta clone lol. I like how they portrayed him in 06. He felt like a dark hero that didn’t waste time and got to the point, but he didn’t do it alone.

@lynxfresh5214

3 жыл бұрын

Just another stupid retcon, remember when Shadow swore to always honour Maria's last wish to protect the earth? However thanks to Sega forcing the two worlds concept into canon, the "Earth" is consider the human world while Sonic and Co come from a different world in a different dimension (despite the lore of the adventure games as well as unleashed saying otherwise). So either Shadow broke his oath to Maria OR Sega have erased Shadow's character development in the adventure era? (either option is stupid considering SA2, Heroes and Shadow's own game all took place in IDWs continuity). And notice we've got planet Wisp and the Earth yet neither Sonic nor Blaze's world's are given names?

I can't help but laugh and smile with joy as I read the comments on this video. The personalities of Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles is all based off the Adventure games, an era of Sonic, SEGA wishes to ignore for inspiration for some reason. Ian Flynn is definitely one of the best writers for the Sonic comics.

@lynxfresh5214

3 жыл бұрын

Thats because Sega would actually have to admit this to the adventure era and it's fans; "You couldn't live with your own mistakes, where did that bring you?, back to me!".

“Leaked out of her” Yikes. 😂 Whatever, fine, Nick, I’m buying all of them.

@TimmyTheTinman

3 жыл бұрын

That's what she said

As opposed to Sally specifically, I always felt Amy was just having her Sonic Boom personality bleed into the main continuity. Regardless of how that series faired, Amy was certainly portrayed as a leader type there so seeing it in the comics doesn't seem too out of left field.

@rainpooper7088

4 жыл бұрын

sonicsaiyan07 Boom Amy was also criticized for being too much like Sally, especially in the Boom Archie comics where she’s the team leader for no reason and acts like a bitchier version of Sally with literally none of that cute and mildly goofy charm and desire to help people because it’s the right thing to do that Amy’s character used to be all about. IDW does keep that part of her character intact though, so it’s fine by me.

SEGA really should hire Ian Flynn for the writing of the future games. IDW is amazing. Both the characters (except Shadow) and the story telling is great

@Mermain123

2 жыл бұрын

your wish came true

@insertunoroginalnamehere6189

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mermain123 I was just Abt to say that

Tails be getting that Super Gohan treatment. If you know what I’m Saiyan.

@not7170

4 жыл бұрын

yOu sPeLt sAyiNg WrOnG!!111!!

Loved the points addressed in this vid. You pretty much nailed everything on the head. The way characters were handled and portrayed in Forces makes me wonder how Ian Flynn would handle a certain reality-bending Jackal and I cannot be anymore excited for it.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

I'm 90% sure that Sonic Team won't let anyone other than themselves touch Infinite with a ten foot pole after Forces release.

@thekagawalife2081

4 жыл бұрын

Riolan I... believe he wrote the prequel comic “Rise of Infinite”? Not much was able to be done since it was a short, but I’d like to see more of how Ian would handle Infinite.

@DankMadness12

9 ай бұрын

​@@thekagawalife2081since Infinite isn't allowed to be used in the comics, that ain't gonna happen.

I have never read a single Archie Sonic comic and got in only with IDW. From all the heartache the Archie fans seem to have with the lost characters, I'm almost glad I missed out on that whole era. I am able to enjoy the IDW comics to the fullest I feel. I do not in any way say this to diss the Archie fans. They had their whole epic journey and honestly I am bummed I missed out on all that.

@thekagawalife2081

4 жыл бұрын

Watsobe Me too. I ended up binging the Archie comics starting from Issue 160 (that was when Ian Flynn took over for writing), and when I was finished, I felt...very empty. Very sorry. It’s definitely worth a read, at least from Issue 160 onwards.

More speed reading means more of me hearing Nicks nice voice rambling on about a bunch of fast animals and jewelry. Keep up the great work man!

I gotta say that i love how the comics give the characters some justice after years of being misstreated, especially for Tails, Knuckles and Amy.

What IDW did with Amy was the best thing to happen to her since Sonic Adventure. Change my mind.

Already watched this on patron. Still came here to boost your numbers. Keep at it guy!

Hey they finally fixed Tails! If only the games did that..

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

Screw fixing Tails writing, I just want Tails to be playable in open 3D stages with gameplay like Adventure 1. 😂

@jadeaaron2003

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocov1233 same..

@Zak-bv4qm

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocov1233 That would fix Tails tho then because he would be fighting.

@dragondelsur5156

4 жыл бұрын

Next Sonic game: We're going to make Tails useless again so Sonic will have the full spotlight again!

@Yaboyin368

2 жыл бұрын

@Dragon Del Sur I hope not, but if they do I don't wanna play more Sonic games anymore

God, it's incredible how well you know this series. It's respectable, your the kid in the class who everybody asks for lore and you give them everything and more. God damn it's nice to know someone cares about all of Sonic and not just classic, cartoon, or modern Sonic, but Sonic The Hedgehog in general.

My stance on the Sally/Amy issue of the comics doesn’t have anything to do with who Sonic should date. I couldn’t care less about Sonic’s love life honestly. What my main issue came down to was that for the longest time I felt Amy was basically written as a Sally clone which I felt did a disservice to her character. The things I’ve always found charming about her character are the goofier things about her like her crush on Sonic or massive temper (neither elevated to the ridiculous levels of some games though) and I felt that the comics stripped that away from her in trying to fill the hole Sally left behind and it messed up what I liked about Amy so much. Granted, on re-reading I did notice some of her old personality like her entire debut issue and certain moments like wondering where Shadow went on Angel Island or getting excited at Sonic carrying her. But I overall came for the realization that, while she was taking on a Sally role, her personality shift was to that of Sonic Boom Amy rather than maintaining what the games and older cartoons had done. And again, I’ve never liked that shift because I feel it erases the more erratic aspects of her personality. I do like how she’s written in the comic and she has a lot of great moments, but sometimes I feel her character and arcs are restricted by her position as leader of the resistance. Sally isn’t even my favorite Freedom Fighter by the way, it’s Rotor. And no one has really “replaced” him in IDW yet as an older friend of Tails who is just as much of a genius as him. Also, fun fact to bring up for this debate: I’m pretty sure some manuals for Sonic CD referred to Amy as Sally Acorn. So that’s pretty funny with this new context.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, for the most part. I don't know about the Boom part though because Amy definitely kept her temper in that incarnation, she was even a complete jerk sometimes. Also I do believe that Amy was toned down because of how much hate she has gotten for being herself over the years. She was probably given the commander role because know other popular characters could fill that role besides Tails, Blaze, Silver, Rouge, or Vector and none of them could sustain a leadership role for that long because the live somewhere completely different, are too inexperienced, or have other people they have to look after. Also I heard some people getting mad because they thought Tangle was going to be Sally (reminds me of the whole people thinking that Sticks the Badger was actually Marine the Raccoon).

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuperBlueGamer9000 I like her canon/mainline personality more, especially when she acted more mature during the 1998-2009 era. I still think that Cindy Robinson is a very talented voice actress and I think she has a good Amy voice in stuff like Lego Dimensions, I just like Jennifer Douillard and Lisa Ortiz's voices/voice directors much more. I understand where you're coming from though.

@smoogieboogie1694

4 жыл бұрын

Super Blue Gamer 9000 they basically did. That’s my problem. I miss the more goofy Amy who had the crush but still did what was right.

@YouluC

4 жыл бұрын

They referred to Amy as Sally Acorn in the CD manual because it was a poor attempt at trying to promote the TV show at the time.

@dragondelsur5156

4 жыл бұрын

@@YouluC Or a case of bad name adaptation.

I really like how these characters were handled in the comics. In my opinion it’s how the three should be written form now on.

All i'm saying is that tails went full fightclub and they should have leaned into it

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

If Tails reunited with the group and it turned out classic Sonic was fake the whole time? Forces would be in my top 5 games of all time.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@GameApologist What if he was never there and the rest of them went along with it for his sake since they had more pressing matters to worry about?

@tabifiedler6944

3 жыл бұрын

Game Apologist I LOVE this idea! I wish Forces would have done something like this, but SEGA never would have allowed it :(

I agree with you on Knuckles being a fighter, I don't see him as this big leader of a resistance force. If you want Knuckles to lead a team have him lead the chaotix like in the previous comics. You could have it that they're this "hit them hard and hit them fast", you call us to do the suicide mission or need the extra muscle type team sort of like The Wreckers from the Transformers franchise.

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

Man that would have been an awesome interpretation

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

Knuckles should've took Silver and Espio's place as the face of the resistance and the main heroes inspiring the animal people. The leader should have been Amy (she's good at persuading people and she has been a team leader multiple times), Tails (he is a genius with a lot of motivation to stop the Eggman Empire), Silver (he has survived living in an apocalypse and has an unshakable drive to see a world of peace), Rouge (technically the leader of Team Dark and is extremely cunning and a great tactition who probably has military training), or Vector (is an experience leader and someone who has a strong preference that respects attention).

@travisherndon94

4 жыл бұрын

@@GameApologist Yeah and if they wanted they could add Mighty and Ray back and have them be apart of Knuckle's Chaotix team like in the comics.

@diddlypoop

3 жыл бұрын

@@chocov1233 Problem is Espio is probably more fit for a face of the resistance/leader role. The guy's a literal fuckin' ninja. Knuckles is just some hermit who guards a shiny gem on a floating island.

@chocov1233

3 жыл бұрын

@@diddlypoop Who has a presence of authority, was technically the og leader of the Chaotix, and can destroy parts of buildings and whole boulders with one punch.

Ian Flynn is such a blessing for the Sonic series, especially after having to pick up after Ken Penders's mess

15:29 "Unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle."

@dragondelsur5156

4 жыл бұрын

Now that line makes sense.

These are the kind of writers we need on the Sonic games. They actually know how to tell are cohesive story. And honestly I like how Amy had been doing as leader, though I really wished they brought Sally in to the main series.

The Sonic Forces comics were probably the only Sonic comic series I've enjoyed, ever. The original Archie comics series was a convoluted mess with various moments of questionable art. I liked your analysis on Sonic not being able to show emotions other than his "raddy attitude". Sonic is a -passive- flat protagonist, like Goku. He doesn't really change, other characters around him change because of his actions, and that is ok. Amy is probably my favorite character in this Sonic Forces comics. She is quirky, she is independent and not obsessed with Sonic. They actually gave her a personality. I honestly don't understand why readers have issues with that, when it improves her character by 200%. Edit: thanks Jamal Hartley for correcting me on the nomenclature.

@jamalhartley5863

4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean he's a flat character. Passive would indicate that Sonic only acts when threats affect him personally. He's very much an active character. Seeing as Goku kinda sort almost killed a bunch of universes with the tournament power I'd say he's pretty active too. Ichigo from Bleach is a perfect example of a passive character/protagonist.

@BingBangPoe

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamalhartley5863 yes, thank you! I meant flat protagonist, my mistake. But what I meant is that Sonic and Goku are protagonists with "flat character arcs". Unlike other types of characters, such as those with "positive character arcs", which revolves around "the lie the character believes" (like Shadow and Vegeta), the flat character arc is based on "the truth the character believes". Both Sonic and Goku are easygoing characters that essentially are the same in terms of personality and don't go through massive changes; Sonic is defined by his free spirit and love for speed, while Goku is defined by trying to always become a better fighter and meet stronger opponents. They overcome their challenges by following those beliefs, and they don't change, but characters around them do: both Shadow and Vegeta eventually become allies to Sonic and Goku, respectively, after their interactions with said characters. They go through their character arcs and change their beliefs after meeting the protagonists. Thank you for your input on Ichigo, that was a good point.

The Shadow episode is going to be interesting isn't it.

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes.

@iggyminious

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed it was.

NGL, when the IDW comics were first announce to take place right after Forces, I wasn't very happy. But then I found out Flynn was working on it, and gave it a chance. I've been enjoying IDW's run ever since.

Hey man. Don’t fret on the video or how you edit it. Everything you say is awesome and makes super sense. So just roll with man. Your voice is like some master craft golden spitfire . So it works. Keep up the good work brotha!

YES! Love this video mate, i feel like your comfortably filling in a gap in the Sonic the Hedgehog video scene once occupied by Cybershell with the detailed analysis of the comics, keep it up!

as a person who's only aware of the characters through the games I thought that Amy would have been a better choice as leader of the Resistance from the start.

I’m interested on your opinion on Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. Yeah the gameplay, music, graphics, etc aren’t great. But the story in that game is probably the cleanest attempt to join the game story and archie’s story together. With that backlash that came from that game I was surprised when SEGA said that Forces was taking inspiration from the comics. Anyways, I’d love to see a video of you discussing your opinion of Chronicles’ story.

@quasar4780

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I loved Shade as a character and I think the Nocturnus clan had a great potential, but because of Penders's lawsuits we'll prebably never see them again. Fuck Penders.

OH I love this. I definitely want more of that ! Keep it up, you're doing great ^^

The comic is Great! But I had a little problem, Why is shadow edgy? This is his 'shadow the hedgehog' game personality, his original (SA2) personality is the best and he isn't edgy there.

@trizilitz3201

4 жыл бұрын

Debut Shadow was the best Shadow. I hate it that SEGA applies the "edgy" character to Shadow, instead of the heroic, humble, loyal, and sassy Shadow

@lordkooner

4 жыл бұрын

@@trizilitz3201 Even the comic says it out loud and called shadow an "anti-hero" and I am disappointed, don't get me wrong, this comic is awesome, but them getting shadow's personality wrong bothered me a lot.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

He's not edgy per say, but he is definitely a cool dark counterpart type character.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@trizilitz3201 Hey, he wasn't that bad in Heroes, 06, Black Knight, or even some parts of Shadow the Hedgehog. Also besides some voice lines and that one scene with pre-mask Infinite, he wasn't to bad in Forces. Everyone is conflating Dark/Neutral Shadow from his game and Boom Shadow with game Shadow, he hasn't been the same since 2003 but that doesn't mean that he's horrible.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordkooner He is an anti-hero, he is friends with a "former" thief/criminal and a blood-thirsty killing machine robot. Not to mention he goes on spec-op missions for a government agency, where he might have to presumably kill or injure people. Also he straight up was going to let everyone die on the planet and no good deeds are going to stop that from always being something held against him.

On Friday, February 21, 2020, Sonic Team uploaded a video called “The Brief History of Sonic the Hedgehog 101” on Sonic Channel, their official website. In the latter part of that video, Sonic Team stated that Amy Rose is “an independent hedgehog with a strong sense of justice.” Sonic Team confirmed that Amy’s character growth and maturity, as clearly seen in the IDW Sonic comic series, are 100% canon. Therefore, Amy is not a carbon-copy or Mary-Sue of Sally Acorn as so many Archie Sonic and SatAM die-hards want to falsely accuse Amy to be all because they’re upset that Sally Acorn isn’t in IDW Sonic as the leader or as the lead female protagonist which Amy always was in the main Sonic universe. The head of Sonic Team, Takashi Iizuka himself stated that IDW Sonic is the canon continuation of Sonic Forces and Sonic Team, unlike with Archie Sonic, supports IDW Sonic, especially since SEGA has more control and influence over the Sonic comics this time around. Also, Sally and the Freedom Fighters aren’t canon to any of the Sonic video games produced by Sonic Team and SEGA of Japan. No offense but Sally and the Freedom Fighters are irrelevant to the canon video games and IDW Sonic won’t reference anything from Archie Sonic or from SatAM as SEGA wants the new Sonic comics to stay true to the canon modern Sonic video games. Also, Sonic Spinball and Sonic Mean Bean Machine aren’t canon, they were just non-canon spin-offs and Ian Flynn himself in a Bumblekast stated that those two games don’t count as canon. SEGA of Japan don’t want the Freedom Fighters because they don’t fit with their vision of Sonic and SatAM doesn’t advertise Sonic Team’s game characters or video games.

@ManiacX1999

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously their Canon doesn't mean much when it comes to movies at least...

5:54 “He needs to be his own hero” SEGA said this for the millionth time now, NOW JUST KEEP THAT FREAKING NARRATIVE.

I love this series and I want to say that you are awesome!

I read the IDW comics without knowing much about the games or the Archie comics, so it was very interesting to see your take on it. Im exited to see more of this!

Knuckles isn't a commander or a fighter. He's a guardian. He just left the master emerald alone for Eggman to steal it.

@lynxfresh5214

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for some reason writers (at least in recent years) aren't smart enough to involve Knux in the plot without screwing up his role as guardian. They even make him leave the Master Emerald unguarded to continue the trend of making him look overly incompetent/dense OR pretend the Master Emerald/Angel Island don't exist even though its an intrinsic part of Knux's character just like Shadow's history with the ARK (the games actually did this for roughly a decade post 06)

You know, there's a part of me that would really like to see a new Sonic game that take the visuals in a new direction and tries to capture a sort of cell shaded approach that looks something along the lines of the comics. Not sure if anyone else had felt this way but I've felt like a part of my inability to connect with the charactrrs in recent Sonic games comes as much from the stagnant and kind of uninteresting art direction as much as the writing. I almost feel like the character designs are almost trapped inside the models they're stuck in and I'd love to see it taken in a slightly different direction

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

It's a major critique and one a lot of folks are justified in vocalizing. The series needs an injection of style

@Wayneisboss

4 жыл бұрын

@@GameApologist Either way. I'm interested to see what they've got up their sleeves next. If they can nail that gameplay and style down we're good but I'm still really hoping for the day they decide to really run wild with the story and do something new and exciting for the characters! They would probably do well to take some notes from Flynn but I know that's not generally how business runs

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like, as diverse as fans needs and wants may be, everyone has a morbid curiosity/genuine hope when it comes to each new release. They are always SO close to nailing things.

@quasar4780

4 жыл бұрын

So something like the first Sonic riders' cutscene ?

@rainpooper7088

4 жыл бұрын

Wayneisboss Yeah, the current models look pretty bland to be honest. Even Rise of Lyric had better character animation than Forces and Colors.

This series is so good, man, thanks for making it!

Always a pleasure to see new videos the second I wake up

Yeah I was kinda disappointed when Shadow got **SPOILERS FOR RECENT ARC**. He’s always been egotistical but that was just pure stupidity.

@somethingfunny2199

4 жыл бұрын

It really shows how little Sega/Sonic Team get their characters now and it’s a shame because Ian’s original version of that scene was miles better than what we got

@Iam-cz1ot

4 жыл бұрын

*I ‘ M T H E C O O L E S T*

@magnificentdumbass7700

4 жыл бұрын

Spoil me

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

He thought he was immune because one of his abilities is being immune to all diseases because he is the ultimate lifeform and he was created to be a biological super alien government weapon hedgehog and as a way to research a cure for the illness that Maria Robotnik had.

@Mikey64

4 жыл бұрын

Chocov 123 That stuff about Maria’s disease isn’t canon anymore (I don’t even think it ever was). Even still, Shadow was clearly being engulfed by the metal virus and he didn’t even try to start running it off like Sonic. I know he was surrounded by tons of Zombots but he can freaking fly with his shoes. He should’ve been able to see that the virus was overtaking him and should’ve begun doing what Sonic had been doing for awhile now.

Sonic forces was a mixed bag imo but the comics I haven't read in a couple years

Fun Fact: My art was featured in comic #5, It's the only black and white one.

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT! Did they publish your fan art?!

@omaegaa

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah! It was a really cool experience

@jenn4368

4 жыл бұрын

OMEGA omgggg I’m so proud of u!!!!!

I love this new Amy and I don't think she stole Sally'a personality.

If only Roger could voice THIS Sonic. Let him realize his full potential as Sonic.

@jordanchong-gayle7169

4 жыл бұрын

Roger the hedgehog

@andrewashford291

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh I think he makes Sonic act just like he does in the comics. Personality wise

Flynn needs to get hired into sonic team as the main writer, especially for the characters.

I've only played a few of the Sonic games (Sonic Heroes is the one I remember best, probably my first), but I've always wanted to get into the comics! The Archie comics were really daunting however, so I'm glad that IDW is now a thing that I can jump into. I'm enjoying these videos, and I appreciate that you're making them. Thanks man.

I just finished playing the Sonic Forces game (currently going for a completionist run) and I had NO IDEA that the IDW comics that I've been collecting and reading for a while was based on that! I was confused as to why it started right after an eggman defeat but I brushed it off as "starting a little different". Thank you so much for this!

I really hope to see Whisper and Tangle become a part of future games, as well as to see Blaze return. It'd also help if the current voice cast from Colors onwards is being replaced anyways. Ultimately though, the flanderization and misunderstanding of Tails and Knuckles in the games, especially in Forces, has gotten me to a boiling point with the franchise and I don't see myself bothering with future titles if Sega/Sonic Team doesn't get their writing together soon

@lynxfresh5214

3 жыл бұрын

Same, it all started with them getting screwed out of their super forms in Heroes and it all slowly went downhill from there... Funny how Sega scrapped the Hyper forms for being "too DBZ" yet have made it so that only the male hedgehogs can go super with the chaos emeralds in the "modern" era (similar to how only saiyans can go "super") and insist on writing Shadow as a bootleg diet-Vegeta, the hypocrisy is hilarious!

Thou I was very upset with the earlier position of some characters in Forces and this comic a while back but I've come to expect what's going on with it and like some of the narrative overtime. That's for addressing your thoughts while staying positive to the previous continuity of the comics and it's characters(Archie) but you have a nack for that kind of thing and I thank you.

I’m so happy someone is bringing light to the comics. Not enough people talk about how they work with what Sonic Forces did and somehow makes it all work. They even made the Zeti bearable more recently and somehow made them essential and their inclusion make sense

I should really get into these comics, they sound great.

I couldn't get past the 3rd level of forces. (The cut-scenes were long and the gameplay controls felt so restricting.) So, hopefully the comic does something good with the storyline.

@giddthedevil1790

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly the comic has very little to do with Forces aside from the fact that it takes place after it. Even then the only important details are that the characters formed a resistance and eggman built a giant robot that was destroyed by Sonic, Fat Sonic, and Custom Sonic.

My first thought when making a custom character in Sonic Forces was trying to recreate one of the Freedom Fighters. It was always my dream to see Sally in a game. Like you said, they're important characters, but even as an optimist I know that won't ever (officially) happen. RIP Sally and crew. You deserve better.

thank you for another awesome video :)

Passion for what you do goes a long way, as demonstrated in these comics and as pointed out in the failures of sonic forces. Man, its like of people treated a project with the passion, respect, and care it deserves, you attract the fans you want and keep them engaged and when you look at it as a cash cow, a chore to get out of the way, people will feel it and see it in the product.

And this is why Flynn should write for the games 💁🏼‍♀️

Forces! Tails: Sonic,help me!!!! IDW!Tails: I’d rather help myself out.

Another great vid Nick. Personally, i really like IDW's takes on each character. However, i do extremely agree that forces hinders the characters, especially in Amy's case. They have seemed to 'fix' Knuckles for lack of better term and Tails' issues were treated in the background so that was never too garing so hpefully, after this arc, it'll try and loose the whole resistence stuff. That's what i think it needs really. Quick side note, I love rough and tumble but they're no Bean and Bark. They do reference the hooligans in that issue but i doubt they'd bring them in due to the unfortunate whole classic - modern split by sega. I can't wait to hear your take on the shadow thing just for the fact that i think i will have an opposing view on it so i wanna hear the other side of the argument. Really enjoying speed readings, glad you're finally got it up and running. Extremely eager for the next one.

i love your sonic comic videos, id love to see more based on archie

@GameApologist

3 жыл бұрын

Hang tight, dude! I'm recording a few vids in rapid fire going over the zombot stuff, then I'm hopping over to Archie!

10:19 sonic heroes reference.

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I love all the references in these books.

I would kill for even sally acorn by herself to come back, one of my favorites from the archie series!

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

All the Freedom Fighters would be pretty cool to see again, but I think that they could somehow be worked into the games so that it would be fine to use them in the comics and cartoons. That's very unlikely though seeing as how the Freedom Fighters are all American made characters and fans of Sonic from anywhere other than America and maybe Europe wouldn't know much about them.

@whatagirthypooyouvetaken5825

2 жыл бұрын

I agree man

6:36 yeeeahh I'm pretty sure Rouge is the real "leader" of team dark.

This channel needs more subs

1:02 I almost thought you were gonna say "because Ian does...what Sega Don't" lol

I love the IDW comics! The only thing I don't like about them is Shadow's portrayal and the fact that Infinite is nowhere to be found. I hate how Sega micro-manages the comics 😒

@chocov1233

4 жыл бұрын

It's a double-edged sword, even though it sucks from time to time, if Sega didn't impose any control over the comics then some writers could make this series go over the deep end like Archie did sometimes, and that isn't good for anyone's image.

@skizzlers2756

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocov1233 yeah, considering the whole Penders fiasco I can understand that they would want more control over the comics.

@mannycampos6885

4 жыл бұрын

The what was shadow og protryal in the first place

Sonic IDW is the best comic I’ve ever read!🤩❤️❤️❤️

I'm also a massive fan of Ian Flynn (having gotten into the Sonic comics through the 2010s book releases.) When I think of Sonic characters, I tend to think of how he portrayed them. With nuance. Finding depth where others might scoff at the notion. His job was also a dream job of mine when I was younger. I think it's safe to say that his work had quite an impact on me as an aspiring storyteller and artist. I also read the Sonic Archives series, and have a lot of nostalgia for the original, Pre-Adventure run, but after that... yeah, it's hit-and-miss. Flynn's the one who figured out how to do Modern Sonic in comics. Penders... didn't. So yeah, this is a long ramble essentially to say... thank you, Ian Flynn and crew, for saving the comic. And thank you SEGA/IDW for keeping them on for this one. Very excited for the future.

*Orders the first volume because of this*

I may have a catchphrase for the start of the video. Something like "welcome to speed reading, where we turn words into *(insert word here)*

@GameApologist

4 жыл бұрын

"BIRDS" Perfect!

@gregtom3272

4 жыл бұрын

that was a very good video , how ever , there was a interesting article about sonic , which explain a lot about sonic fandom probably way more than any one think , it has a lot to say about classic era and modern era gamebabble.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/sonic-and-the-worst-fandom-ever/ this article has some sort of a bad title which is " sonic and worst fandom ever " but regardless of it , this article would give a good idea about sonic fandom

In conclusion: Get Ian Flynn to write the for the Modern titles from now on. The man *actually* knows what he's doing with these characters; none of which he owns.

Eagerly waiting on that Sally ep!

While I do appreciate what Iann Flynn is trying to do with I do have one concern that I have with that no one seems to notice, I don't want the comics seen as the only way to make story/character development when they should be in the game in the first place. For me at least It's like in Destiny 1 Grimoire Card system instead of having all the Lore and stories in the game they make you go to Bungie's website/ Destiny App, now granted this isn't a perfect comparison and the Grimoire Card are earned in-game but in theory, it's taking away story/lore that would have been in the game and put it elsewhere.

@Megaman12Protoman14

4 жыл бұрын

The big issue is all on Sonic Team and whether or not they take the fan support of genuinely good narratives that come from these comics. If they hired Ian Flynn as a lead writer early on in development of a new game for example, then from the get go there's already a much better chance the game can have a story on par or even exceeding something like Unleashed or Black Knight (the top sonic game stories imo). The sad truth of it is that until those in charge of the games see the merit in making a good story, the comics will without a doubt be the only place fans can go for good official renditions of the characters and potential narratives using them.

1:20 Amy's thighs look thicker than usual.... Maybe that's just me......... Don't judge me, I'm just a Sonic fan, we all think about stuff like that at some point. Don't pretend like you're not the same.

@jdudehl6079

4 жыл бұрын

Dewey Drop lmao they do look a little *thicc*

@Gang3rs

4 жыл бұрын

cant judge you at all, i always had a thing for legs and have a small thing for Amy as well so....yeah

@deweydrop3421

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gang3rs At least you're honest.

I like his ability to explain things. Hes awesome at it

I met Ian Flynn at a convention, he had no lineup and asked for no money for an autograph... i bought the first collection (issues 1-4)and immediately loved what he did with Tails.... the next day i personally tanked him for doing right by my favorite character, bought a couple more issues and have been showing sonic fans who honestly.... were like me completely unaware of its existence.... if the first time i heard of the comic was by seeing a booth with Ian Flynn himself selling the thing.... anyway i hope your video gives the comic much needed attention