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Was that... Dan staying up to date on current games? He knew the name "Sonic Frontiers" off the top of his head. Grandpa's never done that before!
@RosyKitteh
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I 100% Frontiers the week it came out, and now it feels like a strange dream I had. ...And yet I still accidentally call it "Forces" when I talk about it
@DrNaviMD
Жыл бұрын
They definitely recorded episodes already
@RosyKitteh
Жыл бұрын
@@DrNaviMD Definitely, maybe, who knows. This is definitely first of the year stuff, so they're a month and a half behind with uploads
@denny4518
Жыл бұрын
Grandpa and his fake wig.
@wildbard4112
Жыл бұрын
@@DrNaviMD I don't think they've recorded episodes or plan on recording it. They've just given up on playing game that fans want
in the first ten minutes we learn Dan doesn't know what a pause symbol is and Arin still only knows five words to Personal Jesus.
@buggibii
Жыл бұрын
the thing about the Personal Jesus thing is...... like 'reach out, touch faith' isn't the chorus. it's 'your own personal jesus.' they say it more than the faith thing. like what the fuck is he talkin about. i have to know. i does is have to know 😭
@clydebarksdale2264
Жыл бұрын
Does no one else think Arin has a drinking problem? Sounds like he’s drinking in almost every episode…
@XavierTheNeonTiger
Жыл бұрын
@@clydebarksdale2264 some people just sound like that. Though it would be funny in a morbid way for him to be talking about cutting down on on energy drinks and processes foods while being absolutely blasted non stop.
@Taitetsai
Жыл бұрын
@ClydeBarksDale It's super weird, and I feel like Dan is actually getting annoyed(?) by it. There was a tonal shift in the recent katamari episodes. (This is in reference to another comment addressing Arin's drinking, it's super funny that Arin three times now has gone through the same paces with Personal Jesus lol)
@Gnurklesquimp2
Жыл бұрын
@@Taitetsai Same, ever since I realized Arin doesn't put effort into learning the lyrics of Personal Jesus I've HATED him, probably extra true for his ex-best friend... Idk if I could just move on from that kind of betrayal. Update: Mr Silk forgot to @/it didn't go through, it was actually a response regarding the drinking topic. That would indeed warrant a more serious response if true, but I've got no idea
Arin's Jaunty Sailor anecdote is essentially the entire character arc of Tom Bombadil.
@queenb1119
Жыл бұрын
I want to like your comment, but it's at 69... so here's a reply instead! 👍
@tobyharrell2898
Жыл бұрын
@@queenb1119 aa
@selfiestick1589
Жыл бұрын
never read the books or seen the movies could you elaborate please? :D
@nickfidler6908
Жыл бұрын
@@selfiestick1589 Imagine if in the middle of an epic quest, everyone dropped acid and paid a visit to a god-caliber being who sung at them and saved them from a mole man and then disappeared from the story forever
@tieflingcorpse9817
Жыл бұрын
@@nickfidler6908 somehow the context made it make less sense
Arin having Personal Jesus rexplained to him every few years never fails to get me laughin. Hootin n hollerin
I really want Brennan Lee Mulligan to take Arin on a one-shot so powerful and moving that it brings him to tears.
@bazzfromthebackground3696
Жыл бұрын
You can't force people to enjoy something
@fun2building
Жыл бұрын
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 I think Brennan could though
@chozin2408
Жыл бұрын
Brennan and Arin in the same room running an absolute fever dream of a game together would be the best guest grumps episode lol
@Tsukasamimi
Жыл бұрын
Brennan Lee Mulligan is a fantastic and intimidating Game/Dungeon Master. He can make me feel fear through the screen, especially during the Neverafter campaign.
@Scrofar
Жыл бұрын
I fully believe Brennan is the only one who could make Arin simultaneously laugh and legitimately cry with a campaign solely based in a town full of jaunty sailors also Matt Mercer too but the point still stands
Thanks for playing our game! You two are hilarious.
@bricekrispees
Жыл бұрын
@@Guy_OFFICIAL you're*
@slumburried
Жыл бұрын
@@bricekrispees Grammatically, yes! Morally, did you have to call them out, lol.
@bazzfromthebackground3696
Жыл бұрын
@@slumburried Some people just line up to be "that guy" lol
@bricekrispees
Жыл бұрын
@@slumburried of course not, but who the heck says "you're welcome" in place of someone. It's weird that guy even said it to begin with. so that's how it got to be here. but by all means let's call out the grammar nazi instead
@NecrochildK
Жыл бұрын
Are you an actual dev from the game? If so, I have to ask, was there any inspiration from Marble Madness?
Tom Bombadil is a genuinely hilarious character concept. He's a primordial eldritch being of unfathomable power who probably could have ended the entire conflict two books earlier if not for the fact that he truly, deeply, unwaveringly, wholeheartedly *COULD NOT* give less of a fuck.
@kingdraconias
Жыл бұрын
He just wants to vibe in his woods and bang his hot river nymph wife.
@Dubstelleon
Жыл бұрын
Pretty respectful to be fair
@paulwhalen2769
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he could be the literal incarnation of god or just some primordial being created by god to be a troll. He isn't a moral being but he also does nothing to help.
@Majikn
Жыл бұрын
He's one of the furthest things away from eldritch I can imagine? What makes him eldritch?
@TenzinBeifongIII
Жыл бұрын
@@Majikn his origin and true power are unexplainable and mysterious? Maybe not sinister, but definitely weird and ethereal. He's definitely strange and unnatural in a way that could conceivably conjure fear. I mean, barrow wights are afraid of him. I'd say he's definitely eldritch.
Honest to god just from the Tom Bombadil and Arin trying not to lose it at Dan not knowing what a pause symbol is, this might be my favorite episode in a good while
Dan explaining Tom Bombadil to Arin made my day.
@shadowwatcher3957
Жыл бұрын
I'm Bombadiltastic, call me fantastic.
@InsaneCitizenErased
Жыл бұрын
i watched the movies first and the first time i tried to read the book i got to that tom part and i was so confused why they spent a year there or why the character existed
@caitlyngoerger-stacy3555
Жыл бұрын
I almost cry laughed at that hehe
@Mr12Relic
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't circle back to it by saying "JRR TallCan" 9:51
@EricTheKartoonKing
Жыл бұрын
God same 😂 It must seem so hilarious to someone who’s new to it
Arin learning about Tom Bombadil was something I didn't know I needed to hear
@zippy_zap9525
Жыл бұрын
And his yellow boots. 💛
Dan not remembering what the pause symbol looks like, followed immediately by Arin not remembering the chorus to "Personal Jesus," is peak Game Grumps. With their powers combined you get the cultural knowledge of one whole person!
@L33PL4Y
Жыл бұрын
Judging by the comments on all their videos, apparently _everything_ is "peak Game Grumps"...
@RamadaArtist
Жыл бұрын
@@L33PL4Y meta-commentary about peak Game Grumps is peak Game Grumps.
@HarryStikers
11 ай бұрын
@@L33PL4Y That's because everything IS peak game grumps. Do you think they can do anything but their best? Because I don't
@L33PL4Y
11 ай бұрын
@@HarryStikers If everything is "peak Game Grumps" then nothing is. Without valleys there are no peaks.
@HarryStikers
11 ай бұрын
@@L33PL4Y The valley is anytime Arin won't listen to Dan telling him the correct thing.
I am absolutely a Tom Bombadil stan and I can't describe how delighted I am to hear his section described as "just dancing around in his house" It's what Tom would have wanted
The opening claymation bit! So cute and silly! I love how easy they can get lost in the bit.
Someone should tell Arin that D&D without combat is absolutely a thing. All it takes is for everyone in the table to want to play like that and go helping townsfolk, solving mysteries, solving puzzles, banging fabulous sailors under the moonlight.
@Lurmmings
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, D&D is a bad system for that kind of game, since so much of your character progression IS "do combat better".
@TheP1x3l
Жыл бұрын
@@Lurmmings People might think this is harsh but it’s totally true. Like spellcasters have social utility skills but martial classes don’t have anything like that. My favorite game is Vampire the Masquerade and it’s so much better for other sorts of progression.
@Drraagh
Жыл бұрын
@@TheP1x3l It is and it isn't harsh. D&D can be played without combat, and it can do well without it, but when primary class abilities are 'Get better at combat', it makes it a bit hard to justify playing those classes. Its why I used to play Rogues and Bards, skill monkeys with abilities in and out of combat. But yes, games like Vampire or Cyberpunk which is what my table is playing lately, work well with no combat storylines. Part of me would love to see Arin playing a diceless RPG, or specifically a 'shared narrative' RPG where it is pretty much players saying what does and doesn't happen.
@Leongon
Жыл бұрын
@@Lurmmings It's only an issue when not everyone is on the same page. If the entire group agrees to play a campaign with the goal of roleplaying with little to no combat, that's what the DM is going to give and that's what everybody is going to get.. And the players will build their characters around that.
@rosariocrimson
Жыл бұрын
The combat can go off what Dan was saying about needing a good DM. The combat can be done purely off of imaginative 'my character does this!' and the DM just rolls with it and decides what works, what fumbles, etc. Though that way does run the risk of certain players overpowering themselves while others try to say more grounded, and also far less risk, so less satisfaction. Generic encounters mean nothing after a bit, and even 'boss' fights you leave up to destined victory vs 'you weren't meant to fight this guy yet.' Also some of the 'I do this!' things get really really repetitive, or are just way too over the top. Like there's only so many ways to say 'I shoot an arrow at him,' and constant 'I use acrobatics to set off a chain reaction where~ [insert rest of description here]' is just too much for every fight.
16:35 so it sounds like the actual issue is that Arin thinks D&D combat has to be just "I attack it," and doesn't know that you are still roleplaying during the combat
@literallymatty4083
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking that down because I 100% didn’t understand what the help he was trying to say
@KTJMProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yeaaaaaahhhhhh Combat is probably one of the best ways to roleplay your character
@TheP1x3l
Жыл бұрын
@@KTJMProductions That’s unfortunately not helpful if you don’t like combat.
@Gaschdisturbed
Жыл бұрын
Eeeeeh, thinking of variations of "I feint to the right and then slash across his hamstring while pirouetting around him to stab him in the back" or whatever can get daunting if you get into a lot of fights.
@3dreamsequence
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that D&Ds combat is so barebones that if youre not houseruling then, yes, D&D combat just that: " i move, i attack, i end my turn." Rinse and repeat for 2 hours because combat takes 4x as long as it should. Another issie with this is enounter design. If your DM hasnt put hours into the encounter, its going to effectovely play out like a round of Smash Bros on Final Destination with no items; Flavourless. I totally understand where Arin is coming from. I have the same issie with combat. I want to love TTRPGs but the stpry coming to a screesching halt so we can play a wargame for 2 hours just gives me so much whiplash. Us ADHDers have a real difficult with transitions and I thinl this may be why Arin and I have such an issue with DnD being 2 separate games combined into 1.
Arin sounds like he'd really like Powered by the Apocalypse games or FATE. There's a whole genre of Narrative RPGs that are EXACTLY what Arin is saying he wants.
@marquis4080
Жыл бұрын
actually pathfinder 2e solves this problem
@MJAlloid
10 ай бұрын
I was JUST going to propose this. 🤣
@MJAlloid
10 ай бұрын
@@marquis4080How? With 47 more options of things to roll for? Lol
So Arin’s aversion to dungeons and dragons is he doesn’t wanna wait his turn in combat 😂
@JayTohab
Жыл бұрын
Understandable, considering it's Dungeons and Dragons
@RaigarWasTaken
Жыл бұрын
Dungeons and Dragons has. so much. GOD. DAMN. WAITING.
@Marccubus
Жыл бұрын
Man has the patience of a fly
@shoken4421
Жыл бұрын
I mean he could just play the Sega versions of dungeon's and dragons or emulate the arcade versions that are beat em ups ,that's not a good reason to hate dungeons and dragons when there are different ways to play it.
@MNTNHMESMO
Жыл бұрын
D&D combat is just boring by default. No matter how great a DM is, he can never make that part of the game not the absolute worst. Its just really repetitive.
Arin "I don't need to learn to turn!" Promptly falls of the map from falling to turn several times in a row. 😂
Arin's dungeons and dragons thought regrading "bifurcation" makes complete sense (for Arin) when you consider every game they've ever played that has some "cut scene" type story going on. Also explains why he likes games with environmental storytelling so much.
@CdreSkippy
Жыл бұрын
If "I shoot him with my arrow" is all the combat he's ever experienced, he's never played with a DM that runs good combat. It's not hard to use the rules and abilities for combat to inform the story, you just have to actually try.
@sidhackney8831
Жыл бұрын
@@CdreSkippy No his complaint is completely legitimate. Stopping all momentum to start an entirely turn based system and forcing someone with ADHD to sit and wait while everyone else takes their turn and they can't do anything in a game they were told was collaborative storytelling can be really annoying. Brennan Lee Mulligan is a fantastic GM who is amazing at integrating combat into story and I've still had to begrudgingly go back while watching Dimension 20 and find the story beats I missed while I was skipping the drudgery of DnD combat. Arin just isn't interested in listening to his friends take turns having out of character conversations about whether or not they have sneak attack and what the range on their spell is. Some people don't mind that but no GM in the world is good enough to take that out of DnD. Arin would just enjoy a different system more.
@nextbest221
Жыл бұрын
@@sidhackney8831 Right. To me, it sounds like the combat gameplay isn’t necessarily the issue for him. It’s the gear shifting. Like, I love dnd. But I can totally see how someone that wants to keep their brain in one “mode” at a time would find it frustrating.
@zeebo30
Жыл бұрын
@@sidhackney8831 but then he sits there and talks about his love for chrono trigger which he's replaying and that's *EXACTLY* how that and every other jrpg ever work
@ExaltedUriel
Жыл бұрын
@@zeebo30 The simple answer is that Arin has nostalgia for Chrono Trigger and thus is immune to critique, and he doesn't have the same nostalgia for D&D.
I don't know which I love more: Dan sharing Tom Bombadil's existence with Arin for the first time or Arin's utter confusion about what "Personal Jesus" means as a song. I'm actually a Goldberry stan though (Tom Bombadil's wife).
Okay, Dan and Arin, seemingly obliviously, coming full circle and YEARS later doing the Depeche Mode Personal Jesus bit AGAIN is one of the funniest things to me 😂
@VenomousCamel
Жыл бұрын
If the two clips don't end up back-to-back in a highlights reel, I'm calling my accountants
@captainvimes6079
Жыл бұрын
They are the cosmic "whose on first" duo aka one of them just hasn't heard of something
@MrJholshouser41
Жыл бұрын
Deja Vu ala the Ninja turtles debate
@DublHH
Жыл бұрын
what episode is the first one from?
@Golden_Raijin
Жыл бұрын
@@DublHH not sure what # but it was Mario Galaxy 2
I can’t believe we almost had the same instance where Arin goes on for minutes about Personal Jesus.
@requiemforameme1
Жыл бұрын
I swear, sometimes watching this channel is like being gaslit into early onset Alzheimer’s.
@Rio..o7..
Жыл бұрын
again
@AV524
Жыл бұрын
@@Rio..o7.. THAT’S RIGHT! I forgot it happened twice already omfg
@Francesco-cj3oi
Жыл бұрын
@@AV524 what happened twice?
@anachronologist2017
Жыл бұрын
Do you know what a time loop is?
the fact that the idea of a pause icon completely eluded dan for a solid 30 seconds is incredible to me
@sunnywhite196
Жыл бұрын
It honestly felt like the same energy of Arin's inability to spell "eye" for a good while there.
@futrey9353
Жыл бұрын
@@sunnywhite196 *ewe
Any time Arin says “in my mind” you know we’re about to go on a journey.
@hondaaccord1399
Жыл бұрын
I immediately picture Hajime snowboarding 😂
Tom Bombadil is a beautiful character who demonstrates that a merry guy in the woods just living his best life can defeat the temptation of evil by just vibing and doing whatever. Quintessential.
@ThreeGoddesses
Жыл бұрын
Tom Bombadil is a god, and might even be a self insert for Tolkien taken quite literally.
@JacobButter
Жыл бұрын
True, but there was still a world-ending threat to deal with.
@SalientLamprophany
Жыл бұрын
He is an icon
@paulunga
Жыл бұрын
But why is he and his section so boring, though?
@justanotheranimationchanne5725
Жыл бұрын
@@paulunga to you
My favorite part in LotR is when Tom goes "It's Bomadilloing time", and then proceeds to Bombadil all over those NazFools.
@susanschubert1222
Жыл бұрын
Dude 😂
I am going to forever laugh about Arin going on a tear about not liking tabletop game combat and instead enjoying dialog and character interactions. Arin. Arin Egoraptor himself saying this. STRONGLY saying this and standing by this for several minutes straight.
@sunnywhite196
Жыл бұрын
You know....I must be tired out of my mind to not have caught that myself. 😆 But maybe he's run into the same problem I have where a spellcaster doesn't write down what their spells do and the range, and then spends literal hours looking for one spell effect, only to discover the spell won't do what they want, so they look for another spell in their arsenal, wash, rinse, repeat until the session is over. It's infuriating.
Arin's point about dnd seems to be that he needs a different DM
@jaklacroix
Жыл бұрын
agreed! or maybe even a more rules-light system that doesn't make combat feel so crunchy.
@giantmonkey2
Жыл бұрын
@@jaklacroix Yeah he'd probably like something like Blades in the Dark more where conflict is more directly blended in with roleplay
@zeebo30
Жыл бұрын
the thing that confuses me is that he *just* said he was replaying chrono trigger again and like... what he claims to be his issue with D&D is how litterally every jrpg is. half the game is running around talking to people and exploring shit, the other is a completely seperate battle system. sometimes i feel like arin just says stuff without actually putting any critical thought into it
@robsonclark9678
Жыл бұрын
@@zeebo30 combat can def lose a lot of the flavor and collaborative nature of the freeform roleplaying. It puts up walls by nature. I see what hes saying! He prob should try another ttrpg system like he said.
Upon watching the dungeons and dragons rant, I now want a power hour where they get Matt Mercer to drag them through a one shot.
@Zibani
Жыл бұрын
God same. As a big D&D fan it frustrates me listening to him describe combat the most boring way possible, and then complain that the combat is the problem. The cool part about the combat isn't that "Ooh I did 17 damage to the orc" It's that "This is my home that the orcs are attacking, and I need to save my family!"
@IrshBoy
Жыл бұрын
Please? Like, seriously, please? Power hour long play? Actual hour long power hour episode?
@senatorsparky
Жыл бұрын
I love Arin talking about how he hates storytelling and combat taking place mostly separately immediately after he talks about playing Chrono Trigger
@henryellis9390
Жыл бұрын
His description of combat reminded me of exactly what I try to avoid in d&d. There's so much more to combat, you just need to have some creativity.
@longers1028
Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted these good boys to be guests on Critical Role. Arin probably wouldn't be a great fit, but Dan would be amazing. Matt Mercer even entertained the idea in an old CR stream when Twitch chat was suggesting people they would like to see as guests. I just remember Matt saying "Danny Sexbang, hell yeah!" Or something like that
I really wish that Arin was aware that you actually CAN play Dungeons and Dragons without combat. It's not uncommon at all.
@samanthabryant3489
Жыл бұрын
Saaame every “boss battle” that my dm threw at me and my friends ended up being a therapy session 😂
@bazzfromthebackground3696
Жыл бұрын
He seems like he would like a political intrigue game, little rolling, almost zero combat, tons of npcs and stories.
@raemueller5389
Жыл бұрын
This. Oh Arin.
@magus2003
Жыл бұрын
Or any one of the other thousand ttrpg choices out there that are designed better. Hell, there is a ttrpg that uses a Jenga tower in place of dice rolling. It always makes me a bit sad when someone puts off ttrpgs simply because they dont like something DnD related. Its the most famous, but its just one of many and theyre all so different.
@HippoJPLauncher
Жыл бұрын
@@magus2003 YOU get it!!!!
The amount of times Arin goes back to the start is astounding
@PoofyFancyPants
Жыл бұрын
it could be refined into a form of torture
@gander8802
Жыл бұрын
“I don’t like this level”
The second Dan mentioned the first 100 pages of Fellowship being a slog, my brain went "He's talking about Tom Bombadil, isn't he?" and YEP
Episode pops open with Arin’s ADD on full blast just destroying the menu lmao
Arin going backwards about 26 min in and getting so confused is just amazing And he did it TWICE! 🤣
@kentloofbourrow7358
Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate Arin’s ability to completely ignore obvious, glowing arrows pointing to which direction he needs to go
@NWRIBronco6
Жыл бұрын
More than twice, even.
14:35 Counterpoint to what Arin said: combat in D&D is not mandatory; it's just what happens when everything else fails. I've seen campaigns where combat basically didn't happen at all, because the players were *very* good at defusing conflicts with Persuasion and Deception checks (if you have an experienced Bard player in the party - and they're not a murderhobo -, combat probably won't happen that often).
The ratio of ball to feel of speed to field of view is a masterpiece in itself. So many racing games and games in general fail to achieve this.
Arin fighting about how personal Jesus should be named reach out for a second time in game grumps history is funny
@QaRajhCreations
Жыл бұрын
In that sense, I hereby put forth the argument that "Game Grumps" is old stuff. We're watching "Dad Kissers" now.
Arin's brain shorting out for a second over Dan not knowing something extremely common is quite the reversal of roles.
@dnoblht9918
Жыл бұрын
Idk what you're talking about, arin has 100x more knowledge about any subject than Dan does. Usually arin has to explain everything to Dan unless it's sports
@rossmorton7002
Жыл бұрын
@@dnoblht9918 When it comes to video games or internet culture, yeah, but literally anything else? Not so much...
@ItsMrBozToYou
Жыл бұрын
"Was Sonic in Kingdom Hearts?" -Dan
im so eternally grateful that arins discovery of Tom Bombadil is in a recorded format for ME to enjoy
This merch promo is probably my favorite promo ever
@squtnik
Жыл бұрын
mine too
Honestly, fucking loved this episode. Loved the part where their friendship momentarily ended
arin has such complex emotions and thoughts about simple things
@senatorsparky
Жыл бұрын
He's a card in this episode even more than usual. Methinks some substances were consumed
@CoecaCola
Жыл бұрын
It's honestly inspiring
@dexterwillmon
Жыл бұрын
It’s typically games like this where he gets more carried away with it, it’s maybe my favorite part about him too! Makes very valid points.
@Jrock420blam
Жыл бұрын
i still don't know where he was going with combat in dnd but it was funny hearing him get triggered by it lol
@Ben_of_Milam_Music
Жыл бұрын
@@Jrock420blam it's actually a pretty common complaint about D&D. The combat in that game is not only pretty bad, but it also grinds the pacing and flow of the entire game to a halt for an hour and a half while the GM goes "You swing your sword and miss. The bandit swings his sword and misses. The Warlock casts Eldritch Blast for the 10th time in a row. You swing your sword and miss." Arin is in the right on this one haha
Hearing Dan talk about Lord of the Rings is a delightful treat that i desperately needed at the end of this day.
30:00 I understand Arin here by saying ma'am is polite. It is just funny how southern he is to Dan's northern upbringing.
I cannot believe Arin almost exactly recreated a bit from Super Mario Galaxy 2 when he was going on about "reach out and touch faith" nevermind, yes i can
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Man, that was a short-lived playthrough. If only Arin could get over his self-induced hate boner for motion controls.
I love that I am in two DnD campaigns where one is what Dan is describing, and the other is exactly what Arin would like. One group of mine loves combat, and the other has absolutely no combat at all.
Whenever Dan has a band/song suggestion, it's always a banger
Knowing that Arin is playing Chrono Trigger on his own instead of finishing the playthrough with us feels like a betrayal.
@zephyr1741
Жыл бұрын
i know right?
@SavageLynelButtPlug
Жыл бұрын
Didn't they finish it on a livestream?
@thatsprettylane
Жыл бұрын
@@SavageLynelButtPlug no. They played more but they never finished it.
A show about Aaron, Dan, Barry and Ross playing D&D with Brian as DM would be a formidable concept
@animeAJproductions
Жыл бұрын
Picard: "Make it so!"
@andrewrobinson8199
Жыл бұрын
Arin* would ruin it 100%
@SirDaddyProductions
Жыл бұрын
The Dragons In Places podcast is the closest we'll probably get (no Dan sadly.)
@woteveruk1
Жыл бұрын
while i know he would be too busy to do it i'm still gonna suggest, arin, dan ross and brian playing DnD and matt mercer as the DM, so we get to see brian and ross trying to sabotage things
@laharlkent
Жыл бұрын
"Ok, I'm gonna roll." "Roll for what?!?" "Kissin his dad?" "Arin..." "20!!!!"
Dangit Dan, Arin clearly just wants to talk to jaunty sailors all day!
@bazzfromthebackground3696
Жыл бұрын
He's just looking for some sailors.
Dan talking about Japanese city pop and Japanese jazz fusion really stuck a personal chord to me. Thank you for sharing music with everybody, it's such an incentive to check it out 😭💖
I know it's obvious, but the fact that episodes are recorded a month and a half prior to whenever they are uploaded blows my mind
@MrSpartan993
Жыл бұрын
Yeah what the fuck.
I don't think Arin knows you can play D&D without doing combat
Arin: I don't need to learn how to turn Also arin: falls off the edge twice in a row
Do you know when you get that feeling that you're an old friend of someone you've never met before? This is how I feel about these two. I can see us playing any shit and making fun of everything on the screen, talking about all kind of stupid things that come on our minds, enjoying our time. 10 years that Dan is on the show... Wow! You guys are my favorite channel on youtube, no joke. And I'm glad to see you guys have such a nice connection with each other, after all these years. Maybe one day we can talk face to face, and I will finally thank you guys for all the laughs I had watching your stuff. Who knows? Maybe one day.
20:00 This looks like that Spyro 3 snowboarding level in the secret worlds after you get 100%, but backwards.
It’d be neat to see them finish Chrono Trigger since Arin is playing it in his spare time too
Tom Bombadil is this thing where...I like that he exists. I like the way he interacts with the story. I like that he is this weird capricious godlike being, immune to the ring, an absolute mystery to literal angel Gandalf, but also his powers are restricted to a very finite place. I like that he remained a mystery even to Tolkien. But when you reread Fellowship and you had forgotten that after Bilbo's party there's Old Man Willow and the Barrow Wights and Tom Bombadil and you're like 200 pages in by the time they get to Bree, you really start doubting that he's worth it
@davidprince6877
Жыл бұрын
Tom Bombadil is the primary reason I was thinking of rereading it.
Arins issue with DnD is the exact same problem i have with it. And then im reminded im also impatient and have Adhd lol
"I'm a very simple man!" That could NOT be further from the truth 😂😂😂
I can feel Danny's frustration with the start of the first LotR books SO MUCH. I re-read them recently and felt exactly the same way.
@t-vis6330
Жыл бұрын
I didn't mind the part with Tom bombadil. I thought he was a really cool character. I get why people wouldn't enjoy it though
Them doing the "reach out and touch faith" bit again made me feel like I was being gaslight, cause I could've sworn it happened before.
@CJ-cp4gn
Жыл бұрын
It's like when they argued about the leader of the Ninja Turtles multiple times years apart and almost word for word the second time too
Based on Arin's description of what he wants out of a role-playing game, he'd love Disco Elysium
Marble blast is undoubtedly my favorite childhood game. Watching you guys play this successor was amazing. I hope you guys can come back to it when the massive mayhem update releases.
I feel like the interchangeability of combat and exploration or talking to people was like the entire point of DnD. Like Arin said Warhammer is all combat. But dnd brings it to a much more personal level. Like If I was talking to a merchant and I wanted to steal something, it would be a very interesting fight if we entered combat right there. I feel like the bifurcation of DnD was entirely the point of it.
@Kyle_116
Жыл бұрын
It's probably the ADHD in Arin that makes him not like it. He'd rather have one thing to focus on than two different parts.
@Jrock420blam
Жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_116 yeah not sure how to marry the two concepts. like he wants combat but he doesn't want to decide what he does in combat he just wants to roll dice so maybe a DM would have his character have a daemon controlled by the dm inside of him that comes out to control him in a fight fight so he doesn't have to make decisions.
@AtticStinky
Жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_116 yeah that totally makes sense because combat in Dnd does feel very different and can happen abruptly so I can see how that shift in focus is jarring but at the same time I love it you know😂
@MrManMuffin
Жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_116 maybe, thats definetly not a universal ADHD experience with the game though. I think it's more likely that whatever DM he had did not integrate combat into the story very well, or used a lot of random encounters. Which i hate, like why the fuck am i stopping to fight these dumbass orks that came out of nowhere and interrupted my jurney, what the fuck do they add. Maybe if combat was about trying to save the jaunty little sailor, it would feel like it was part of the game, and not just like a seperate minigame you have to play occasionaly.
@AtticStinky
Жыл бұрын
@@MrManMuffin I also suspected this. Maybe Arin just didn’t get presented to the combat in a way that felt super relevant to the overall story. I’m only like stuck on this because it makes me sad that Arin doesn’t love it. 😅Like I’m sure he could but the experience is, most of the time, subjective to the players and dm.
The one-two punch of them taking turns embarrassing themselves was glorious, and I say that with love
I like the part where Arin talks about jaunty sailors for a looooooong time
@localchubbybeardedman
Жыл бұрын
Damn it I got got by Dan
I liked the part where Arin and Dan talked about DnD for a loooooonngg time.
So Arin finally gave up and settled on golf where he just drives the ball right to the hole huh
I was expecting Sonic. Why did you lie to me?
@DallyASMR
Жыл бұрын
It is Sonic, but better!
@kolby3488
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was finally them playing sonic frontiers 😢
@Local_Dilf_In_Your_House
Жыл бұрын
But better.
@hylianespeon3062
Жыл бұрын
@@kolby3488 Hopefully they will, Frontier's is sooo good.
@IfOUGHTpIRANHAz
Жыл бұрын
I thought they would play Sparx 3.
I actually love the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring because hobbits are all hilarious and catty. I could read an entire book about hobbits throwing parties and giving each other shade.
"Dropping logs and cranking hogs" is top tier intro Only to be topped by "have you ever had the chance to watch? HOPEFULLY NOT, TODAY'S THE FIRST DAY"
Tom Bombadil is the oldest living thing on middle earth. He’s older than the Ents. He’s older than Gandalf. When the Ainur descended into Middle Earth immediately after its creation Tom was _already there._ Which I’ve always felt implied that Tom was the Song of the Ainur, the soul of middle earth itself manifested in human form. And i think thats pretty cool. He sings because reality itself is, as revealed in the Silmarillion, literally composed of music. Music is the core of his being, he sings the song that is the world. He is immune to the ring because as Eru told Morgoth, the powers of darkness cannot corrupt his creation, and any attempt will only lead to it becoming more beautiful. The ring, for all its power, cannot control Middle Earth, and thus it has no sway over Tom. Or at least thats my interpretation, Tolkien kept his identity a secret to preserve some sense of mystery in his world, not every question is meant to have a clear unambiguous answer. So if you want to interpret Tom differently thats perfectly alright too. Him being Eru Ilúvatar is one of the other leading theories. With that being said, it isn’t strictly necessary for the narrative, even if it is a neat bit of world building, and i do think Peter Jackson was likely right to exclude it, since a movie can only be so long, and watching them in one sitting is already a herculean task. It still seems a bit disrespectful to to say he’s “not important” when his identity is a toss up between being reality itself or the omnipotent god who created that reality. If anything Tom is one of the most important characters ever seen in middle earth, even if he doesn’t do all that much. He is the page on which the words are written, he’s the stage on which the play is set, he lets other people take the spotlight as he fades into the background, and yet the show could not exist without him. I love Tom, and i think understanding him enriches Tolkien’s world far more than might seem on first glance, for like Yoda on Dagobah he is far more than he appears to be.
@SatoruMasamune
Жыл бұрын
Plus he can punch Sauron right in the chops in Battle for Middle-Earth 2.
@maintaint3003
Жыл бұрын
That's right, another thing that the movies cut was the company of elves singing in the beginning. Tolkien was a super-devout christian, same as his pal C. S. Lewis. He created a world where there is no cross to save mankind, but the One Ring, it's opposite in form and function, was the defining symbol. The world-creation itself was a show of gratitude for God, trying to emulate a tiny part of the most difficult task as a writer. Didn't have to invent new laws of physics or nature or anything like that. Wonder how Dan would feel about all that "Philosophy of Tolkien" stuff.
swear to god this exact depeche mode conversation had happened word for word
Really started 2023 off with a banger
As soon as they started talking about Cruisin' I was waiting for Dan to come in singing that little riff and was not disappointed xD
I feel like Arin would really enjoy a Powered by the Apocalypse based ttrpg. A decent amount don't separate "combat" and story
@burnin8able
Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thought. PBTA and BiTD would both be perfect fits for what he says he wants
@astonfletcher1961
Жыл бұрын
@@burnin8able oh? what is this BiTD you speak of?
@Skelyack
Жыл бұрын
@@astonfletcher1961 Blades in the Dark, its a grittier setting but its quite interesting
@KokaKolaMusic
Жыл бұрын
@@burnin8able blades is a pbta system my dude
@burnin8able
Жыл бұрын
@@KokaKolaMusic ehhh it started out that way but John Harper did do quite a lot to keep it distinct. it's clear that pbta is its inspiration, but BiTD is still sort of its own thing.
I like that part where they talk about dungeons and dragons for a LONG time
Remember, kids, you don't have to listen to Arin for health advice.
@it_nick
Жыл бұрын
he reads like, every article on health food every week and then acts like it's all true and credible...makes me happy I actually finished school tbh lol
To fix your audio issue with consoles you can set up an HDMI Extractor box. Takes HDMI input with a HDMI output for video and then has either a 3.5mm audio out jack, Optical out and/or L/R out then run that to your PC audio input/Mic (usually rear I/O on the PC) and you can manage the console audio through the PC or as a seperate track in the recording software usually. Hope this helps you guys! 👍😊
There are plenty of D&D and other TTRPGs that include a low or no combat phases. It all depends on the GM or system being used really.
There's other combat systems that I think Arin might like and also just DND systems that are strictly story based
Especially with spellcasting involved you can roleplay and be creative in so many ways during D&D combat.
"Jesus. Your own personal one" I wasn't ready. I'm effin dying . I just dropped like three crochet stitches.
I think I’m gonna say it: The “Surprise kiss” promo is possibly the most adorable, funny, and relatable promo you have done to date. 😂😂😂 Dan’s reaction is just *chefs kiss* muah.
Jesus when Ike answered Aaron at first his voice is so deep it scared the shit outta me lol
Arin saying "this is the hardest level so far" to a level where it literally just keeps getting rid of the right side and arin keeps staying on the right side is just .... Astounding
Putting that link on the description was great. Would love if they put, just sometimes, a link for the song or video they were talking about
@KruelAidMan
Жыл бұрын
bruh it's literally the first hit for "80s Gamer Mario music"
Thanks Dan for consistently shouting out slept on songs “eleven” is excellent, also I don’t know if you liked “butt trumpet” but that “you’re ugly” song goes way hard too!
I would say "light inspiration" as far as the ground theme from SMB1 goes is the most appropriate phrase. The two songs share three (3) notes in common. The first phrase of the underground theme is the same as the first phrase from its inspiration. The invincibility star theme is the closest to its source material.
I love Arin and Dan conversing about glyphs, how symbols and logos look similar to eachother.
WHENS THE GOD DAMN SONIC FRONTIERS *tears hair out slowly*
Arin choosing shadowrun as less dicey system is funny
@selenekutarna
Жыл бұрын
Yep, shadowrun doesn't have slow, clunky combat at all... xD
@Jrock420blam
Жыл бұрын
yeah im not sure he knew what he was say here I think he had a little to drink and ended up incoherently rambling
@miguelnewmexico8641
Жыл бұрын
@@Jrock420blam of all the things im more than happy to give Arin guff over, having only a few episodes where he had like what a shot or two? and all of a sudden people jump to him being a borderline alcoholic.
@Jrock420blam
Жыл бұрын
@@miguelnewmexico8641 i didn't say anything about him being an alcoholic far as i know he doesn't drink very often. I simply remarked this sounded like the sort of rambling one does while drinking.
I absolutely relate to Arin about the D&D thing; as an avid tabletop roleplayer with ADHD, I do not have the brainpower to roleplay a fun character and then also do detailed grid combat in the same session. I can only play systems that lean more heavily on theater of the mind and rules-light combat because of it.
I know exactly what Arin is talking about with DND. You get so invested in the story and role play aspect and at first the e3ncounter of combat seems fun and natural. But it really pulls away your focus from the core story to strategize, do math and wait for your party members to figure out their own math and spells. It's easy to get into the combat aspect by itself because the strategy and calculations can be fun. But by the time the combat is over you jump right back into the high fantasy adventure and roleplay again and it can be hard to get back into it again. They are two wildly different experiences that mesh in an awkward way. Fun on their own, but they trip each other up and can lead to someone growing feelings of disinterest and resentment towards the game. Personally I HATE math and I have a hard time strategizing when I'm playing DND because theres this pressure to know every in and out of the combat, weapons, spells and abilities. I fumble a lot and often feel embarrassed and that has led me to dread combat. But the story telling, the adventure, the interactions with the other players and npcs are amazing. I love solving the mystery of the campaigns. I think having a murder mystery DND where theres little to no combat would be fantasstic
All I took from this is that Koji Kondo listened to straight bangers. These inspiration songs are all so good. Friendship is really the only one where I was like "Oh yeah theres the underground theme"
@Amins88
Жыл бұрын
Sister Marian and Summer Breeze is neat little inspiration. But Let's Not Talk About It is definitely a one to one copy. Also the Super Mario World Overworld Theme is pretty freaking close to Green Green.
@Amins88
Жыл бұрын
Also, it would be amazing if they have these songs in the Super Mario Brothers Movie.
I love Arin jokingly giving flak to Dan _"But he stole it!"_
"I don't need to learn how to turn" Falls off the side several times in the next level.
"Have you ever had the chance to watch Game Grumps? Hopefully not!" Ah, I see it's another sleep-deprived episode...
Fun fact: Only two people in Middle Earth can see Frodo when he wears the one ring. Sauron, the creator of the one ring, and Tom.
@kingdraconias
Жыл бұрын
I thought the Nazgul could see him too because they were Servants of Sauron and the corrupted Kings?