Songs that use 6/4 time

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6/4 is an often neglected time signature, living in the shadows of the more exciting and exotic 5/4 and 7/4. But 6/4 but can be a really interested, unusual meter and can give a song an uneasy yet somehow familiar sound.
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COVER VERSIONS USED IN THE VIDEO:
Joe Edelmann’s version of Ful Stop: • Radiohead - Ful Stop (...
Sterling R Jackson’s version of Schism: • Schism - Tool - Cover ...
Foo Forger’s version of Enough Space: • Enough Space - Foo Fig...
Envolvente Estudio version of Dam That River: • Live Session - Dam Tha...
Bobgoblin’s version of Keep It Dark: • BOBGOBLIN "KEEP IT DAR...
325C58 version of Electric Feel: • MGMT - Electric Feel (...
0:00 Introduction
1:00 6/4 is like an odd time signature
1:44 4/4 plus 2/4
3:41 Examples of 6/4 time
4:44 Musiversal
5:37 3/4 vs. 6/4
8:29 6/4 time in classical music
10:55 Piano outro & Patreon

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  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano2 жыл бұрын

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  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Bunkey get writing!!

  • @Marc310380

    @Marc310380

    2 жыл бұрын

    David, you are doing excellent, interesting and informative videos, but seriously for almost any subject you are addressing, there would have been so many examples in Sting songs and I feel like you barely ever mention one. Actually now was the first time I ever saw you use one (Synchronicity). He does lots of songs in all sorts of unusual time signatures, from 3/4 to 9/8 and almost anything in between, many are in 7/4 or 7/8, a few in 5/4 etc. Rick Beato analyzed two Sting songs on his "What makes this song great" (Synchronicity II and Fortress around your heart), not for their time signatures but for their interesting harmonies. So keep up the good work and I'd love to help you find good examples on Sting and Police songs for one of your next videos!

  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Marc310380 I was thinking today that I should feature Sting more! I discussed his song "I Hung My Head" in my 3/4 vs 6/8 video. And I also talked about When We Dance in my Lydian video. He's an amazing songwriter!

  • @Marc310380

    @Marc310380

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidBennettPiano Oh wow, see I hadn't seen these. Like we all have our respective favourite musicians, he is my personal god of music ;) I know all of his songs by heart and play and sing them a lot. Of course you win, since he says the Beatles were his role models and even enabled him to pursue his own career by following their example, being ordinary boys from a working class town in the North of England. But my offer was and is sincere, feel free to hit me up when you are on the lookout for certain intriguing examples on one of your next video subjects, and I am sure I will be able to name a few from the Sting catalogue from the top of my head. Take care and keep doing what you do, it's great!

  • @davidyorkshire7055

    @davidyorkshire7055

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Bunkey Send me the lyrics after you wrote it

  • @dandalf3853
    @dandalf38532 жыл бұрын

    It took less than a minute to get to Radiohead. This must be a new record.

  • @enshen2190

    @enshen2190

    2 жыл бұрын

    He should start a video by just saying “Radiohead”

  • @DaedalusYoung

    @DaedalusYoung

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@enshen2190 "The sponsor of this video is Radiohead. Not really, I just wanted to advertise them."

  • @deanroddey2881

    @deanroddey2881

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Radiohead of course has a few songs that are pi over the square root of -1 measures per bar and played using various flavors of jello."

  • @brandenwilson4378

    @brandenwilson4378

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that. Geez! Is Thom Yorke paying him?

  • @lucaiallonardi2124

    @lucaiallonardi2124

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish there was a new record

  • @sunvinn
    @sunvinn2 жыл бұрын

    *Almost every David video about music theory:* exists. *Thom Yorke:* I'm just happy to serve you.

  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is so far in the thumbnail of all 3 of my odd time signature videos!

  • @DaniloSilva-pl3sq

    @DaniloSilva-pl3sq

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's happy to serve

  • @marshallgrey2159

    @marshallgrey2159

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DaniloSilva-pl3sq nice

  • @vincentdanopoulos

    @vincentdanopoulos

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DaniloSilva-pl3sq Happy to linger

  • @DaniloSilva-pl3sq

    @DaniloSilva-pl3sq

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you guys got the reference, lol. Thom talks about being "happy to serve" in both "Daydreaming" and "Plasticine Figures". I wonder why it means so much to him.

  • @filipbanek1514
    @filipbanek15142 жыл бұрын

    You should look at this band called "Radiohead". They have some songs that might fit your videos topics

  • @ChrisWalshZX

    @ChrisWalshZX

    2 жыл бұрын

    You say? Despite Dave Bennett making references to Thom Yorke's music in this very video? ;-)

  • @GaZonk100

    @GaZonk100

    2 жыл бұрын

    he's not 'there' yet, lol...

  • @bryankelly3647

    @bryankelly3647

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! AND Thom Yorke particularly Last I Heard He Was Circling the Drain! Please explain why it sounds so different live and why the chorus seems so out of step. I think I get it but would love to see and hear it explained. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y35o07uMZNHZmps.html Third and final song is Last I Heard LIVE

  • @papagynther6905

    @papagynther6905

    2 жыл бұрын

    They have a very niche and unknown song called "crepe" which he should definitely make a full video about

  • @Bilge-ko5qp

    @Bilge-ko5qp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@papagynther6905 it's their best song right?

  • @lO_-_Ol
    @lO_-_Ol2 жыл бұрын

    What happens when David runs out of Radiohead and Beatles songs that fit his topics?

  • @nabhchandra_

    @nabhchandra_

    2 жыл бұрын

    the end of the world

  • @jeremiahlyleseditor437

    @jeremiahlyleseditor437

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then there's David Bowie

  • @DaniloSilva-pl3sq

    @DaniloSilva-pl3sq

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeremiahlyleseditor437 and Björk

  • @slimhazard

    @slimhazard

    2 жыл бұрын

    UN. POSSIBLE.

  • @VaudeoProductions

    @VaudeoProductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    Deletes Channel

  • @budgetgitarr5351
    @budgetgitarr53512 жыл бұрын

    I like to think of 6/4 as a longer version of 4/4 and that 3/4 strictly has a waltz feel. If the music does not feel waltzy, I would say that it always is in 6/4.

  • @dkmotorracingnz8010

    @dkmotorracingnz8010

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah, to add onto that, the songs like electric feel and his outro have accents that break up the waltz feel if they were 3/4, ONE two THREE ONE two three.

  • @__x.__

    @__x.__

    9 ай бұрын

    or 6/8

  • @bowtiesncoolnes5715
    @bowtiesncoolnes57152 жыл бұрын

    I think the song "Piledriver Waltz" by Alex Turner is the best example for the difference between 3/4 and 6/4- The verses are undeniably in 6/4, and for the chorus he makes a very noticable switch to 3/4. Even though they are similar time signatures they play very different roles in the song

  • @jackbinkleymusic

    @jackbinkleymusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Great song choice! Perfect example of this concept

  • @guyincognito320

    @guyincognito320

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah Piledriver Waltz is an especially clear example of both beats occuring in the same song. The 6/4 verses are back-leaning and the 3/4 choruses forward-leaning. The 6/4 beat is feminine-pagan, lunar, and communicates ambiguity, questions, observations, and revels in worldly and sensual things. The 3/4 beat is solar and masculine, it's decisive and fleet footed, more aggressive, maybe more bellicose, but if not aggressive it can just as easily be airy and formal, like a waltz. It is either Christian or patriarchal Euro-pagan. 'Electric Feel' is definitely 6/4 in spirit and aesthetic content. It's an earthy, worldly, sexy, exotic song about a sort of goddess, not a song that rocks or leans forward. This is a pagan, amazonian, feminine, lunar song. If you played Electric Feel live and emphasized the 3rd beat, it would start to rock a little bit. It would enact a different sort of sexuality. The 3/4 woman is the object of my desire. The 6/4 woman is the subject of my worship. Alice in Chains is a very solar, masculine, northern European metal band, and loves to use beats of 3, whether it's 7/4 or 3/4.

  • @squidsbizarreadventure

    @squidsbizarreadventure

    3 күн бұрын

    You seem to understand this topic and is familiar with Arctic Monkeys, I wonder what you think about Nettles (the B-side for Teddy Picker)? I was looking up the tabs and it... is a mix of 3/4, 4/4, 5/4 and 6/4???

  • @HofTheStage
    @HofTheStage2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, I feel Electric Feel by MGMT is in 6/4.

  • @nuke97

    @nuke97

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is.

  • @pentatronic

    @pentatronic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another vote for 6/4 here, because of the drums. While the example he played is kind of ambiguous, later on in the song they switch to this galloping tom + snare rock beat, hitting the snare on every 2nd beat. That part is definitely not 3/4.

  • @McN4styFilth

    @McN4styFilth

    2 жыл бұрын

    It definitely is.

  • @-k-b-

    @-k-b-

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't get why people insist 6/4 is just 3/4 twice, it is but it's just neater to write it as 6/4. Especially for a song like this where the time signature doesn't really change all that much at all

  • @nic..1

    @nic..1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was hoping it would get mentioned in this video

  • @dariancrawford
    @dariancrawford2 жыл бұрын

    I've always counted the main riff in Schism as alternating 5/8 and 7/8. Counting it in 6/4 is really weird and difficult for me

  • @calvinio1234

    @calvinio1234

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I thought it was alternating time signatures

  • @hannesw.9088

    @hannesw.9088

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel that Schism is kind of polymetric. I think both are valid arguments depending on the instrument you follow

  • @AlbinoJedi

    @AlbinoJedi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've heard it's generally accepted, if not also defined by the band I think, that its I alternating 5/8 and 7/8. I couldn't follow the 6/4.

  • @GreatBigBore

    @GreatBigBore

    2 жыл бұрын

    You guys are expert listeners. You figured out the time signature? I felt like I had arrived as a Tool fan when I could just *hear* the beat on Aenema before the drums start 😆

  • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL

    @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL

    2 жыл бұрын

    I suppose time signature is tool to allow musicians to convay information to each other and 5/4 - 7/4 and 2x6/4 are just different translations of the same thing.

  • @VaudeoProductions
    @VaudeoProductions2 жыл бұрын

    Electric Feel is in 6/4 because of the phrasing of the bass line. If it weren’t for that, you could totally say 3/4.

  • @srgttamtam

    @srgttamtam

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree but disagree about the last sentence. The drums also heavily define the 6/4

  • @asiullopes

    @asiullopes

    2 жыл бұрын

    also the higher melody is very clearly 6/4 cause it always skips a 16th (i guess) after the 1

  • @Wind-nj5xz

    @Wind-nj5xz

    2 жыл бұрын

    How? If you're going to interpret it in 3/4 the bassline is accenting beat 1 of every other bar

  • @srgttamtam

    @srgttamtam

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wind-nj5xz sure, but the drums are heaaavily accenting the 1 of a 6/4 beat

  • @ThatIsDopeBro

    @ThatIsDopeBro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like 4/4 + an extra 2 beats to me

  • @AFMTAG
    @AFMTAG2 жыл бұрын

    My favourite example of 6/4 in a metal song is the intro to "Almost Easy" by Avenged Sevenfold. It only lasts about 15 seconds, but it definitely gets you feeling something is different and hooks you in before it launches into 4/4 for the rest of the song.

  • @bg4567890
    @bg45678902 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of anyone counting the main riff of Schism in 6/4... 5/8 + 7/8 which you could simplify as 6/4, but that completely removes the feeling from it

  • @brandondean8399

    @brandondean8399

    2 жыл бұрын

    Came here to say this. Who knows if it’s intentional (it’s Tool, so probably), but it’s a “split” (or schism) in the music.

  • @Goalieguy-rq9cu

    @Goalieguy-rq9cu

    2 жыл бұрын

    For sure, but you would probably write it as 6/4 or 6/8. If I saw a song alternating between 5/8 and 7/8, I'd probably have a breakdown.

  • @kylerobinson2881

    @kylerobinson2881

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah definitely wasnt expecting that to be here. If not 5/8 + 7/8 then I would have guessed 12/8

  • @mattwhite399

    @mattwhite399

    Жыл бұрын

    I immediately came to the comments to bring this up. I would never notate Schism in 6/4.

  • @timothyjewett625
    @timothyjewett6252 жыл бұрын

    Great to see Courtney Barnett getting recognition. She is amazing. Such a talented poet and musician

  • @lingus1382

    @lingus1382

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just found her recently and I am in love with her music

  • @altostratomus7452
    @altostratomus74522 жыл бұрын

    Coldplay has 2 songs that I know of in 6/4. First is “We Never Change” off of Parachutes. The last one I know of is the new “Coloratura” off of Music of the Spheres. In the string and glockenspiel section, he song enters a 6/4 time signature before changing to a shuffled 5/4 time signature.

  • @altostratomus7452

    @altostratomus7452

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are two other songs from Viva la Vida that have odd time signatures, such as “Glass of Water” which is in 7/4 and “Death and all of His Friends” which is in 7/8.

  • @strykeplaysmcjohnpickhypix1205
    @strykeplaysmcjohnpickhypix12052 жыл бұрын

    I really like how you explain the weird time signatures with examples of actual songs. Makes the theory for it a lot more Intuitive

  • @sarahschouveller1993
    @sarahschouveller19932 жыл бұрын

    Electric Feel... one of my favorite songs ever ❤ I hear it in 6/4 although before today I never thought about it, just loved it 😊

  • @toganium4175
    @toganium41752 жыл бұрын

    This video would;ve been very helpful to me years ago when I was still trying to learn music.

  • @jeffsmith3645
    @jeffsmith36452 жыл бұрын

    Soundgarden's "Fell on Black Days" is the perfect 6/4 rock song for me. The tempo is appropriate to feel the quarter note beat, the drums accent 2 4 and 6, the phrasing supports a 6 beat bar length, it doesn't really feel like 4/4 plus 2/4 and is very consistent about it (even through some of the beatless sections)(but not all). They count in as if the song will be in 4, but that's part of the hook. 6/4 is not two bars of 3/4 because the 4th beat is unaccented. If the 4th beat is accented that disqualifies 6/4 in my book: use 6/8 or 2 bars of 3/4. I'd write 6/4 when it feels like a quite slow 3/2. This is how "Fell on Black Days" feels to me.

  • @lukamagicc

    @lukamagicc

    4 ай бұрын

    So I literally heard this song today in my Spotify favorites after favoriting it on a binge of nostalgia from my childhood. Today knowing what I know about time signatures the first thing I did was count 6/4 then googled "6/4 time signature songs soundgarden" and this was the first video that came up. I CTRL F my keyboard for "sound" and yeah.... Feelsgoodman, thank you.

  • @mightworth3735
    @mightworth37352 жыл бұрын

    Dave would be a good music teacher

  • @clifftownsend3027

    @clifftownsend3027

    2 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean, Marah? Dave IS a good music teacher.

  • @gabrieltoledano5560

    @gabrieltoledano5560

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clifftownsend3027 word

  • @chevy_the_frog
    @chevy_the_frog2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how to read sheet music, but your time signature videos have helped me gain a lot information I didn't have prior to watching them! You've also given me a new writing topic for when my english teacher gives us free write days lol

  • @AtomizedSound
    @AtomizedSound2 жыл бұрын

    These are great videos of you going through songs with all kinds of different time signatures! Keep it up to go through all of them that’s usually popular if you can and then maybe the more obscure proggy type ones if you don’t mind with composite meters and such.

  • @aslefjeldstad
    @aslefjeldstad2 жыл бұрын

    2:02 Half-flat A, impressive attention to details.

  • @dangerkeith3000
    @dangerkeith30002 жыл бұрын

    Just off the top of my head "Room a Thousand Years Wide" by Soundgarden is in unmistakable 6/4. And it's awesome.

  • @Acandlesfickleflame
    @Acandlesfickleflame2 жыл бұрын

    I always felt Electric Feel as 4 + 2 and not as 3 + 3, so I believe 6/4 is the more accurate time signature.

  • @nbnewman

    @nbnewman

    2 жыл бұрын

    So did I; I remember trying to figure this out when the song came out. 4/4 + 2/4 might be better than 6/4.

  • @giddycadet

    @giddycadet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read it as 6/4, with the first, third and fourth beats accented. if it was 4/4 and 2/4, there would be no accent in the second measure at all

  • @gerbs139

    @gerbs139

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ditto with Synchronicity 1.

  • @-hamalshin9189

    @-hamalshin9189

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's a video of MGMT recording it and you can hear the metronome counts in 6/4! :)

  • @PotatoesAreUs
    @PotatoesAreUs2 жыл бұрын

    6/4 was very much my bridge into odd time signatures. It feels even enough that it's accessible to most, but odd enough to be noticeable and spark an intrigue in what else you can do with uneven rhythms. Believe it or not the first place I encountered it was in the original Spyro the Dragon soundtrack.

  • @quantosgames3289
    @quantosgames32892 жыл бұрын

    These are all the songs he mentions in this video: Schism - TOOL Fell on Black Days - Soundgarden Full Stop - Radiohead Pick up Sticks - Dave Brubeck Quartet Everybody's Jumping - Dave Brubeck Quartet Galvanize - The Chemical Brothers Enough Space - Foo Fighters Dam That River - Alice in Chains Synchronicity 1 - The Police Crippling Self Doubt and a General Lack of Confidence - Courtney Barnett Take Me to Church - Hozier Electric Feel - MGMT Nocturne Op. 9, No. 1 - Frédéric Chopin

  • @missjuliepenguin

    @missjuliepenguin

    2 жыл бұрын

    also, he doesn't mention it by name, but the sheet music shown in 10:40 is for waltz #1 by elliott smith (this one is absolutely 3/4 though)

  • @cliftonsmith2429
    @cliftonsmith24292 жыл бұрын

    2:37 "cover by the Foo Forgers" You're getting more creative with your copyrights now lol

  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tribute bands are a great sources of very faithful-sounding covers!

  • @santilopez2295
    @santilopez22952 жыл бұрын

    Some day David will run out of Thom Yorke pictures to put in the thumbnails.

  • @lapislazuali
    @lapislazuali2 жыл бұрын

    6/4 time is beautiful 😺 I owe you

  • @elirosen1391
    @elirosen13912 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I was hoping you'd do this video soon!

  • @maurmi
    @maurmi2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you David, for opening my eyes to 6/4 being like 4/4 +2/4. I used to (wrongly) read it as I would a 6/8

  • @auntevelynspeachcobbler5065
    @auntevelynspeachcobbler50652 жыл бұрын

    Synchronicity 1 is one of my favorites

  • @thylacoleonkennedy7
    @thylacoleonkennedy72 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping Fell on Black Days would get a mention. Soundgarden really had an affinity for unusual time signatures! Also I am absolutely _squealing_ at the Courtney Barnett mention. She's great!

  • @reggiehalstead2070

    @reggiehalstead2070

    2 жыл бұрын

    As soon as I saw the video's title my first thought was "I'll be gutted if 'Fell On Black Days' isn't mentioned". Second song in. Phew!!

  • @henrik6739
    @henrik67392 жыл бұрын

    There's actually another 6/4 Song by Foo Fighters that works as a great example: Miss The Misery from their Wasting Light album. The riff and verses are in 6/4, the first 4 beats of the riff form one clear phrase, answered by the last 2 beats. This song also switches to 4/4 for the prechorus and chorus, which adds relief.

  • @prettyshinyspaghetti8332

    @prettyshinyspaghetti8332

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Making a Fire from their latest album is also 6/4

  • @howard_9138
    @howard_91382 жыл бұрын

    This channel expanded my music library

  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @liberity
    @liberity2 жыл бұрын

    thank you!! I was waiting so long for grunge!!

  • @Fetterov44
    @Fetterov442 жыл бұрын

    An Alice in Chains mention in a David video! We simply love to see it. Great work as always.

  • @audiopium2765

    @audiopium2765

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah damn that river, rain rain when i die and hollow but im pretty sure there is another

  • @iximusic
    @iximusic2 жыл бұрын

    Electric Feel's got a Weird Feel! Can't decide how I hear that one! I really like 6/4. One of my favorite songs in 6/4 is "Eraser" by Nine Inch Nails. The drum groove is epic. EDIT: or...it could be 3/2.

  • @julioestebanortiz-zamora5387

    @julioestebanortiz-zamora5387

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was also thinking of nine in nails! ‘The Collector’ alternates between 6/4 and 7/4 and they throw in some 4/4 for the chorus

  • @iximusic

    @iximusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@julioestebanortiz-zamora5387 Oh yeah! That measure in 7/4 is like a little "gotcha!", like it throws you off even further.

  • @patrickwilliams3530
    @patrickwilliams3530 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I just had a song that was in both 4/4 and 6/4 and this explained everything I needed to know as a newbie. +1 for Radiohead.

  • @davidfelton7772
    @davidfelton77722 жыл бұрын

    A David Bennett video that doesn't feature a Beatles song? I never thought I'd live to see the day

  • @Henry3Studios

    @Henry3Studios

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Beatles didn’t write anything in 6/4

  • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
    @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar2 жыл бұрын

    “All Tore Up” by the Tragically Hip is a good one. Feels like three bars of 2/4 (or maybe even 2/2); kinda different from the examples in the video.

  • @gunstarone493
    @gunstarone4932 жыл бұрын

    When I was learning how to play, “ Shine on you Crazy Diamond.” By Pink Floyd. I found out it was in 6/4. My guitar teacher said it was a compound waltz. Makes sense after this video.

  • @GaZonk100

    @GaZonk100

    2 жыл бұрын

    why not 6/8? - my brain hurts

  • @MaggaraMarine

    @MaggaraMarine

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GaZonk100 No reason. 6/4 and 6/8 are exactly the same thing, simply with different note values. What is notated as quarter notes in 6/4 is notated as 8th notes in 6/8. I guess people choose 6/4 when the tempo is slow enough, so that you actually feel it in 6, and 6/8 when you feel it more as two beats with 3 subdivisions each. Shine on You Crazy Diamond is so slow that you actually feel it in 6, which is why 6/4 may feel more natural. But something like Hallelujah isn't really felt in 6 - you feel it in 2, and each beat has 3 subdivisions. Nothing would stop you from writing Hallelujah in 6/4, or Shine on You Crazy Diamond in 6/8, though. Note values are relative, not absolute, and the only thing that defines quarter note as a quarter note is its relationship to other note values. These days, it's common to equate quarter notes with the pulse of the song. But nothing really stops you from choosing half note or 8th note as the pulse. But because people are used to certain note values feeling slower and other note values feeling faster, it might seem weird to use longer note values in a really fast tempo (or shorter note values in a really slow tempo), which is why fast 6/4 or slow 6/8 may be more difficult to read, because the notation looks "slow" when the music is fast or vice versa.

  • @GaZonk100

    @GaZonk100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MaggaraMarine thank you -- I will digest this fine response over a drink tonight

  • @iain_nakada

    @iain_nakada

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MaggaraMarine I disagree. 3/4 and 6/4 are very close, the difference as shown in the video. 6/8 on the other hand, has a very different feel, with as you say the accent on the 1st and 4th. It's compound time since we have 2 beats, each split into three. 6/4 is simple time. Of course you could rewrite a 6/4 piece in 6/8, but as is said in the video, this would give completely the wrong idea to the performer.

  • @MaggaraMarine

    @MaggaraMarine

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@iain_nakada Look up pieces that are written in 6/4, and you'll find a lot of them that sound like 6/8 (you just don't know that they are written in 6/4, because the difference between 6/4 and 6/8 really can't be heard in those cases - it's simply about how the pieces were notated, and which note value was chosen as the beat). Liebestraum no.3 would be a good example. Forlane from Bach's 1st Orchestral Suite would be an even better example. If you want a more modern example, I'd Give It All for You from Songs for a New World is written in 6/4 (I know this because I have seen the original sheet music). Definitely has what most people would describe as a 6/8 feel. BTW, sometimes the difference between 3/4 and 6/8 is also kind of arbitrary. One bar of slow 6/8 may feel like two bars of fast 3/4 (or vice versa). For example the Scherzo from Beethoven's 5th Symphony is written in really fast 3/4, even though to me it has more of a 6/8 feel (I would count it as one two one two, but the way Beethoven wrote it basically makes you feel it as "one, one, one, one", where the beats are notated as dotted half notes, and the quarter notes are super fast). Traditionally, 6/4 is a compound duple meter. When you combine two 3/4 bars, you get one bar of 6/4. And combining two 3/4 bars gives the music a 3+3 feel. Two beats (1st and 4th beats) in a bar get more emphasis than the others. Now, you can use 6/4 without a distinct 3+3 feel, but that's not how the time signature has been used historically. If the 6 beats are in groups of 2, 3/2 would often be a more appropriate time signature. And BTW, I don't 100% agree with the video. The point it made in the end was good, though. As he said, 6/4 may appear to be a rare time signature, because some pieces that feel like 3/4 are notated in 6/4. But also (and the video didn't mention this) because some pieces that feel like 6/8 are notated in 6/4. Basically, it's a time signature that lacks a clear identity, and a lot of 6/4 pieces may be described either as 6/8 or 3/4 (these are the most common ways of notating the two most common feels of 6/4 pieces). The main point here is, the "bottom number" of a time signature can't be heard. It's simply about which note values you would use to notate the piece. But there's really nothing that makes 6/4 distinct from 6/8 or 6/16. People just tend to default to 6/8, because that's the most common 6/x time signature.

  • @Ngasii
    @Ngasii2 жыл бұрын

    The rhythm and sound of the piece in the end has a very Black South African Gospel feeling to it. I couldn't help but groove to it❤🇿🇦

  • @souptime7461
    @souptime74612 жыл бұрын

    I haven't played Most Wanted (2012) for over 6 years so hearing Galvanize slapped me with the most nostalgia Ive ever felt in my 16 years of being alive

  • @applehack97
    @applehack972 жыл бұрын

    I always told myself that if I ever had a band I would push for sheet music to come with every cd or vynil so people could learn it without having to rely on mostly inaccurate tabs or sheets online

  • @jaschul
    @jaschul2 жыл бұрын

    "Fell on Black Days" by Soundgarden is in 6/4. And it was a hit song.

  • @lh7228
    @lh72282 жыл бұрын

    Made my day. Thanks!!!!

  • @AuXDubstep
    @AuXDubstep2 жыл бұрын

    Love these kinda videos! More please :D The 7/4 and 5/4 one was also great

  • @skakirask
    @skakirask2 жыл бұрын

    Danny Elfman was obsessed with using phrases of six during his time in Oingo Boingo, most notably in songs such as "Nasty Habits," "Little Girls," and "Dead Man's Party.

  • @michaelchester2073
    @michaelchester20732 жыл бұрын

    Never been so early for a video... Love your content!

  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michael!

  • @ZZubZZero

    @ZZubZZero

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, feels pretty cool to be so early!

  • @RubyRoks
    @RubyRoks2 жыл бұрын

    I jammed out a riff that happened to be in 6/4 and have next to no theory knowledge, so this is actually really helpful for acclimatizing myself to the time signature

  • @kaladin783
    @kaladin7832 жыл бұрын

    Nothing else matters is also almost completely in 6/4, as it really fits that iconic acoustic riff.

  • @Momma_Daisy
    @Momma_Daisy2 жыл бұрын

    Our sheet music for "I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas" is in 6/4 time. This helped me understand it better. Thank you!

  • @Hungarikum.
    @Hungarikum.2 жыл бұрын

    The "Songs that use X/Y time" series is my favourite

  • @that_icy_stylish_bitch
    @that_icy_stylish_bitch2 жыл бұрын

    I love these videos about time signatures!

  • @trioofone8911
    @trioofone89112 жыл бұрын

    Love that piece at the end

  • @matthewfrancis4511
    @matthewfrancis45112 жыл бұрын

    Piledriver Waltz by Alex Turner is a really interesting example because the verses are definitely in 6/4 as they are clearly divided into 3 groups of 2 beats whilst the chorus then switches to a 3/4 waltz feel with 2 groups of 3 beats instead

  • @yironflas
    @yironflas2 жыл бұрын

    Watcher of the skies - Genesis is also on 6/4, and i thint it is a great example of a song that (technically could, but) can’t be writen in 3/4 nor 4/4 + 2/4

  • @TheMister123

    @TheMister123

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Watcher" is a most excellent example. :-)

  • @judsta123kickass

    @judsta123kickass

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plus every beat is a quadruplet

  • @Aquatarkus96

    @Aquatarkus96

    2 жыл бұрын

    Genesis were so masterful with their use of odd meter. They could make it nearly imperceptible like how Turn it on Again is in 13, or they could make it the main attraction like on Down and Out with it's really weird angular 5/4 feel It's almost like David makes a conscious effort to not mention them lol

  • @judsta123kickass

    @judsta123kickass

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Aquatarkus96 He probably avoids prog artists, because by definition, prog bands like genesis and yes push the boundaries, if i included them every example in every video would be them

  • @yironflas

    @yironflas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Aquatarkus96 i think he mentioned turn it on again in one video but it was very briefly… certainly, they deserve a lot more love than he gives them

  • @JoeEdelmann3
    @JoeEdelmann32 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for using my cover David! ☺️ love your videos and good to see another Radiohead devotee

  • @michaeljay9019
    @michaeljay90192 жыл бұрын

    What a great video for these difficult times....😃

  • @descono0cido
    @descono0cido2 жыл бұрын

    Pixies love mixing 4/4 and 6/4 in their songs: - In 'No. 13 Baby' the outro alternates between 4/4 and 6/4. - They also alternate between 6/4 and 4/4 in the chorus of 'Dig for Fire'. - The coda in 'Alec Eiffel' has a total of 22 beats grouped together, which I count as 4/4 4/4 4/4 4/4 6/4.

  • @davidhamm593

    @davidhamm593

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also the chorus to "Waves of Mutilation"

  • @MrPedromuriel

    @MrPedromuriel

    2 жыл бұрын

    the verses in vamos are in 6/4 too, pixies use this time signature all the time. soooo good

  • @Slaydrik
    @Slaydrik2 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed that 3/4 tends to accent the first and third beats while 6/4 more often than not accents beats 1, 3, and 5. I hear both Electric Feel and your song at the end in 3/4 because of this.

  • @loganwilbur5131
    @loganwilbur51312 жыл бұрын

    Rabbit in Your Headlights is a delightful specimen. Most of the song is in 9/8 but the it builds to a crescendo, and breaks into a strong quarter-note-feeling 6.

  • @sunangel-rivka
    @sunangel-rivka2 жыл бұрын

    You explain music theory so clearly!

  • @-k-b-
    @-k-b-2 жыл бұрын

    The repeating bridge in Whip It by Devo is in 6/4

  • @TheMister123

    @TheMister123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent example. :-) Definitely one of those "just chop off the end of the phrase for effect" songs, a bit like Joan Jett's "I Love Rock and Roll", or Blondie's "Heart of Glass".

  • @-k-b-

    @-k-b-

    2 жыл бұрын

    It adds so much swagger to the chorus, it's like you're marching into the chorus

  • @kenlee5015
    @kenlee50152 жыл бұрын

    I like the 4 - 2 count in 6/4. It seams fairly common in rock to add the 2 count.

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for introducing me to that Courtney Barnett song. It immediately became one of my favorite songs ever!

  • @TeslaNick2
    @TeslaNick22 ай бұрын

    Kaz Rodriguez loves 6/4 phrasing. He plays it a lot. I love the way 6/4 moves against 4/4.

  • @jamesdaniels487
    @jamesdaniels4872 жыл бұрын

    The chorus of Wuthering Heights sounds like it's in 4/4 and then a bar of 2/4, but seeing this video, I never considered it could be in 6/4

  • @alstoybarn8238
    @alstoybarn82382 жыл бұрын

    schism isn’t in 6/4, it’s actually mostly in alternating bars of 5/8 and 7/8 however the meter changes constantly

  • @deathoftheendless001

    @deathoftheendless001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe because 5/8 + 7/8 would make 12/8 and 12 eighth notes could fit in 6 quarter notes idk i'm just a guitar player lol.

  • @timdedecker7894

    @timdedecker7894

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deathoftheendless001 You could definitely do that, but you could also write 4/4 as 3/4 + 1/4 but that would make no sense. In the same way it makes no sense to view schism in 6/4. Everything points to alternating 5/8 and 7/8.

  • @deathoftheendless001

    @deathoftheendless001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@timdedecker7894 yeah I agree on that, for me I hear 5/8 7/8 more than 6/4 everytime I listen to that tune. And I think it would be easy to play if it is to be seen as that instead of 6/4

  • @isaacburdiss
    @isaacburdiss9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I have to compose a piece for college and I just realized that 6/4 is what I should use rather than 3/4!

  • @microwavetrash2501
    @microwavetrash25012 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad Courtney Barnett is getting more recognition. One of my favorite new artists

  • @zofo264
    @zofo2642 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! I would love to see a tutorial that explains how to read sheet music like how to determine the key and so forth...

  • @Em4gdn1m
    @Em4gdn1m2 жыл бұрын

    I like the Tool inclusion. Would love to see more on them because of their weird time signatures.

  • @badhamsta
    @badhamsta2 жыл бұрын

    The Copin piece is so beautiful 😊

  • @snookerwither9955
    @snookerwither99552 жыл бұрын

    Multiple tracks on the Undertale soundtrack are in 6/4, and they are mainly ones that use the "Ruins" leitmotif. The three I can think of are: - Ruins - Spear Of Justice - NGAHHH!! The leitmotif is used in other tracks too, but is shifted to 3/4 or even changed to fit a 4/4 rhythm (like in "Battle Against A True Hero")

  • @johnlindholm1203
    @johnlindholm12032 жыл бұрын

    I haven't even watched the video yet but i already know it's gonna be great

  • @royalex21
    @royalex212 жыл бұрын

    And now for the ultimate challenge: Songs in 9/4 time! The bridge of Deep Purple's Perfect Strangers

  • @DavidBennettPiano

    @DavidBennettPiano

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s on the list! Thanks for the suggestion of that Deep Purple track, I’ll check it out!

  • @royalex21

    @royalex21

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidBennettPiano Anything! 😉

  • @yobrepus

    @yobrepus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidBennettPiano Also Watermelon i Easter Hay - I think...

  • @as2011
    @as20112 жыл бұрын

    Keep it dark is a very interesting Genesis song from the early 80s in many ways. Not only that its written in 6/4 but also with a distinctly syncopated rhythm guitar part.

  • @cmedina9088

    @cmedina9088

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also Turn it on again, which alternates between 6/4 and 7/4

  • @wazirSH
    @wazirSH5 ай бұрын

    aşk içinde by mor ve ötesi's verse is a really good example of 6/4, I love it

  • @DukeIrritable
    @DukeIrritable2 жыл бұрын

    From 1966, the musically hallucinatory 'B' section from "Cabinessence" by Brian Wilson. Followed by a 'C' section in 6/8 where the bass is overlaid in 6/4.

  • @DylanMatthewTurner
    @DylanMatthewTurner2 жыл бұрын

    I think Electric Feel is 6/4 because to me it feels like "one two THREE FOUR one? two?" In other words, 4/4 with accents on the end and a weird, added two beats.

  • @fablingood
    @fablingood2 жыл бұрын

    Suburban War by Arcade Fire is in 6/4, you can feel it by listening the guitar riff. It then speeds up and switches to 4/4 in the outro

  • @stephenstrang590
    @stephenstrang5902 жыл бұрын

    This video totally went over my head. Damn.

  • @DARC98
    @DARC982 жыл бұрын

    Watcher of the Skies by Genesis is a good example of the 4+2 approach to subdivide 6/4

  • @Christopher-md7tf
    @Christopher-md7tf2 жыл бұрын

    Starting with one of the songs with the most debated time signatures in recent memory, ballsy move. Personally, when I think of Tool and 6/4, I think of the chorus to Stinkfist.

  • @OGFacelessKing
    @OGFacelessKing2 жыл бұрын

    I just want that last piece you wrote on repeat for like an hour.

  • @dedemushi7824
    @dedemushi7824 Жыл бұрын

    a david bennett ad before a david bennett video, so surreal.

  • @shiv2033
    @shiv20332 жыл бұрын

    That Radiohead bloke is back.

  • @connerstines1578
    @connerstines15782 жыл бұрын

    Watcher Of The Skies by Genesis is the example I always use . That or several Gentle Giant songs.

  • @yipper1100
    @yipper11002 жыл бұрын

    Terrapin Station (Grateful Dead) near the end when it is like a drum break is a very solid 6/4 with the 1 accented

  • @raemmsunshine
    @raemmsunshine2 жыл бұрын

    He talks about music the way literature professors explain the complexity of old books.

  • @cliftonsmith2429
    @cliftonsmith24292 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait till you get to "Songs In 13/82. 😁

  • @PlanetoftheDeaf
    @PlanetoftheDeaf2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many bands, especially those without formal music education and at the start of their careers, really know what time signature their music is in. The guitar, drums and bass jam together, get a nice groove going, and that's the basis of the song. Months later a producer might tell them it's in 4/4 or 6/4 😁

  • @0liver0verson9

    @0liver0verson9

    2 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly.

  • @wingracer1614

    @wingracer1614

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends. Yeah anyone can play 4/4 (and maybe even 3/4, 6/8, 12/8) spontaneously but I can't imagine very many garage bands just spontaneously starting to jam in 7/8 or 5/4. That's going to be a conscious decision by somebody.

  • @MCVessels

    @MCVessels

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wingracer1614 But if you're writing by yourself on a computer it's very easy to go twiddly, twiddly, twiddly and end up with something in 15/16 or what have you, because you can write more by feel and don't have to have someone else follow along. And you still might not know what time signature it is!

  • @ChrisWalshZX
    @ChrisWalshZX2 жыл бұрын

    Camille Saint-Saëns' The Swan is in 6/4. The 'cello leads with 6 crotchets that work naturally. The piano accompaniment has two rolling sequences - 4 semiquavers going up-up-down-down underneath 6 quavers going up-up-down-down-up. A great feeling of running water to support the 'cello's swan-like calm movements.

  • @ronan1686
    @ronan16862 жыл бұрын

    Liebestraum no 3! One of my favourite piano pieces

  • @cakemartyr5794
    @cakemartyr57942 жыл бұрын

    Thank you once more for an enjoyable and educating video! Pineapple Head by Crowded House is in 6/8, that's the nearest I could get from the sheet music I have. Would be good to see them feature in a future video. How about a video on songs in 12/8? I know a couple of those.

  • @TheMister123
    @TheMister1232 жыл бұрын

    "Although at least a few of you will say that my piece is actually in 3/4." Yep. :-) Definitely "One and and, Two and and", with the accents on the one and four. But each "phrase" feels like a pair, so 6/4 is fine too. :-)

  • @mikaoleander
    @mikaoleander2 жыл бұрын

    one band that kickstarted my obsession with nonstandard time signatures a few years ago is biffy clyro, and their newest album uses 6/4 (and 7/4) a LOT. my favourite of those songs is probably the pink limit, which plays around with the accents in the verse, so it sometimes becomes ambiguous if the part is subdivided in groups of 2 bars of 6/4 or 3 bars of 4/4

  • @vh8496
    @vh84965 ай бұрын

    great work on this