Super knowledgeable and useful straightforward simple explanations. Thanks for putting out the video

@tonychesssnutsss1404

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I got a newer version on the café about 29

Thank you for taking the time to do this review. I have a Retro on order so this was very helpful. Could you make a video on your van as you use it to haul your bikes. I have a van to carry my bikes. It would be nice to see how you did yours. Keep up the great work! Thanks.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for kind word Mark. The van is 80% complete. I worked with a small company called Earth Ship Vans to build it around the bikes. This is my mobile office, camper and bike hauler. I will do van tour video soon once we have the final pieces in place.

Sweet! Cool to finally see someone receive it.

Been waiting for this review for a long time. Great job. Can't wait to see the Cafe review.

@kenneth7197

2 жыл бұрын

It actually exists!

@Oz1111

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenneth7197 never doubted it that it would exist when I paid for it last January. Yes, it took longer than any of us wanted but it is not sondors fault. Hopefully will be riding mine in a month.

@djibrailabdulsabor3495

2 жыл бұрын

Im down to under a month b4 estimate deldate.

They only problem I have how within a year it went from $1500 to $2700 huge mark up even before full release.

@DW-nf9qe

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, that was a major deal breaker. It shows their product isnt solid enough, since it was caused by a bad early review..

@tonychesssnutsss1404

Жыл бұрын

Worth every penny

I still love this design by Sondors. It's a cool idea. My impression is the Madmods bike needs more development, more power, to live up to its price tag. Looks sluggish and heavy.

@tonychesssnutsss1404

Жыл бұрын

It's great

The video I've been waiting months for!

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

So Have I. This bike arrived on the day I was leaving for a business trip. I couldnt wait to come back to ride it this week.

@ToadallyMemes

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA since seeing your post on fb I've been refreshing youtube every few hours looking for your review. Thanks for a long and thoughtful review!

Can’t wait to get one next year 💪

I like the scrambler since I’m a big and tall guy(6’5” 370 lbs). Spoke to one of their reps Mr Grey and I was static because it can handle my size well .

It would be nice if they could ship the bikes already. They missed the October date to ship with no new notice. We will see how this plays out. Everyone who got November shipping notification, I received October 4-8... No shipping info or anything as of yet

Finally a mad mod review!

Nice review

Very nice-looking bike for sure. Cool frame. I wonder, though, why should I buy this over, for example, the Juiced HyperScrambler 2, or the Ariel Rider X-Class 52V or Grizzly? The Sondors here is underpowered compared to those bikes, _especially_ for its weight. And it's even more expensive than the HyperScrambler 2, and almost as heavy -- and the HyperScrambler 2 has _two_ batteries.

Dang I can’t wait. Mines been sitting in LA Port for like a month 😩

Looking forward to getting mine soon, but the top speed seems so slow in comparison to my RX. I do not have much to loose I guess. I got in when it was $1499.99. Was really hoping I could just sell my RX when this arrived, till I wiped out on the gravel yesterday and scratched up the break levers and the handle bars. Those slicks on the rx are crap. I was only doing like 10 mph.

Thanks, I just received my madmod. I do you turn the headlight to high beam? Also is there a pdf manual. The assembly video was helpful, but it runs short. Is there a pdf assembly manual?

I'd like to see this bike put to the test especially off road. Mine will probably show up by the time that review comes.

@808pineapple

2 жыл бұрын

We've been riding 48v SurRon (Segway) dirt bikes for awhile. We ordered the Sondors Retro for street use. Received delivery email, November.

sharp n sporty looking 🏍

I have dragonfly pics close to that color. You should have Sur Ronster see how it wheelies. Look like a great bike. I have a dog close to that weight, I could use that ramp, is there a link? Thanks.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

You are going to love this ramp. It’s designed for dogs up to 150 Lbs. www.amazon.com/dp/B001AR7YII?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

I think they improved on the bike because my display size 29 miles

That madmods looks like it weights significantly more...that has to affect ability to go up hills, acceleration, battery life, etc.

looks like such a nice bike. But doesn't seem like you can attach a rear rack and it is kind of heavy and a low top speed.

Nice review. I Should of bought in when it was $1499. Oh well.

Does it feel anemic when off road or during uphill climbs? We haven't found any MadMods review that articulates the power capabilities of the bike in the raw.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

We made this video as first impressions. I have been riding this bike for several days and have a better idea how it performs. In the city, it’s a great run around bike. I will take it to the Denver’s foothills for the uphill and trail tests. Look for a follow up video coming soon.

@808pineapple

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA Excellent, thank you Sir. Safe riding

I want that folding ramp, where can I get that folding ramp...?!?!?! Great vid.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

You are going to love this ramp. It’s designed for dogs up to 150 Lbs. @t

So far all the videos we seen so far seem to avoid mentioning how powerful this bike is. Perhaps it is somewhat anemic due to the heavy frame?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

The bike comfortably does 25-27mph. It has plenty of power for city urban riding. Look for a new video covering the hills and trail rides soon.

@HenryAguiar

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA Awesome!! I am already waiting for my Retro version, and very hopefull to see how it performs in trails. Looking forward for your next video sir!!!!

Sam what kind of bag is that on your chest?

What is the white helmet Sam is wearing?

@spacemansam_

2 жыл бұрын

Its the TSG pass helmet in white. There built in Austria. Originally a downhill longboarding helmet!

When they said the bikes was a scam i called this man he told me they are comming

So the thumb throttle is usually on the right?

@felixgrassl

Жыл бұрын

u can buy left handed throttles for around 70 dollars i suppose

Been looking for another ebike. So far nothing has impressive me more than the Ariel X52v. I'm still looking for something better, but so far no luck. This Sondor is way to pricey for what you get.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

I like the frame design of Madmod better that Ariel AWD bike. Of course, Ariel has better specs (battery and motors). The challenge with Ariel is a powerful front motor installed on an inverted front fork. I have seen a few of those bikes with loose axle nuts. Not very safe.

What helmet does he have on there it looks amazing

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a TSG pass helmet. They are built in Austria. Originally a long boarding helmet.

@CKPHH

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA do they have a motorcycle version?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what else they offer.

Can you please look at the battery manufacturer? I usually always upgrade my battery on these types of bikes.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

I usually work with HI-C Battery in Denver. They make my custom batteries. I think this bike equipped with a 52V or 60V battery and a 35a controller will perform much better.

@MrNikola41

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA Yes, I know. These are chinese batteries and I was wondering which factory. I improved the performance of my ariel x class by going directly to the manufacturer - Ariel were so nice they provided me the info. Can you look at the battery and/or the battery compartment for the company or model name. Thank you in advance.

@Trillville43

2 жыл бұрын

I just want the frame of course a lighter one

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrNikola41 will do. It will be awhile before I can start looking at upgrades for this bike.

@MrNikola41

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA Thanks and I know but I just thought you could take a couple of mins to look the info up on the battery itself or the compartment. It should actually be on the battery, won't take more than 1 min. I apologize for the urgency but I will be flying very soon into the US soon once I know when my bike will be available and I haven't been able to get this type of info from sondors.

this was originally supposed to go to 28 MPH why has that been reduced?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

While the display’s settings says 25mph, we are able to pedal and throttle it to 27.5 mph.

@tonychesssnutsss1404

Жыл бұрын

It's not reduced 29 label

Where did you get the ramp?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a folding dog ramp (found on Amazon) rated for 150 LbS.

Pre-order price I am sold. Current price no thanks.

Good review. The front shocks look clearly NOT inverted, so that part was confusing.

@nicholasboyd233

2 жыл бұрын

They are inverted. Those dust covers are causing the confusion.

Keren

tyre or wheel size?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

Edited: 24 wheels and 24”x4” tires.

@mattmiller4917

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA That is false. They are 24 by 4. Check the website.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattmiller4917 you are absolutely correct. They are indeed 24” wheels and 4” tires. Thanks for the correction.

I'm 5 foot 6, am I too short for madmods?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think so. If anything you should be able to pedal it more comfortably.

@iliketoast7804

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA I heard another guy my size who has one complain about when stopping at my size not being able to put his foot down as he would want to

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

@@iliketoast7804 what’s your inseam. I am 30” and do fine with the stand over height.

@jibailublabla

2 жыл бұрын

U have got to make sure the seat height be less than 80cm

@iliketoast7804

2 жыл бұрын

@@jibailublabla I believe I am cancelling because...well...I ordered 7 months ago and they aren't shipping out our orders but delivering other peoples

Cruise control?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t found the Cruise control feature on SONDORS color displays.

Throttle on the left hand side is a non starter. Thumb twist non starter.

Kind of the elderly bike choice. Nice tho

wait… storage 🤯

My retro does 32 mph

Damn I can't wait to blow some cash on getting this bike up to speed. It should feel stable at 40+. Disappointed with the weight ouch only 35 lbs over claimed weight ooof😬. I'm 145 so that's an advantage and I roll my Yamaha r6 into my van myself so I'm not worried about loading. Can't wait to see people power modding this bike.

@dotiskingsp2997

2 жыл бұрын

Yup....lol, dope I got an R6 too! What year is yours

@dickflinghammer58

2 жыл бұрын

@@dotiskingsp2997 06 that was painted red when I got it. Same red 😒

@dotiskingsp2997

2 жыл бұрын

@@dickflinghammer58 oh ok cool, got a 17 myself...Yama bros lol....ride safe 🤙🏾

Love the look - but damn no seat HEIGHT adjustment which is basic to leg length to pedals. Sondors weakness is that shitty cable that comes out of center of the hub motor. That's a problem that other manufacturers have solved. Regardless, good intro by ebikes USA. Nicely shot vid! BTW, arm position looks too high and tiring.

@dickflinghammer58

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely getting lower bars. I never planned to keep them anyway. I should have bought the retro really and just slapped knobbys on it every bike I have (including my motorcycle) is this red I really hate it lol

Looks so heavy

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

At 114 lbs it is. It rides very planted and smooth because of it. But you will feel every pounds of it when trying to lift it.

@tonychesssnutsss1404

Жыл бұрын

It has a walk mode

750w is not substantial power. 😂 You can find 5000w+ watt hub motors easily.

@Scalihoo

2 жыл бұрын

That frame & the wheels etc could handle it too,

@chucknoob7041

2 жыл бұрын

Keeping within ebike classification for US (I suspect).

@justin_ogre

2 жыл бұрын

@@chucknoob7041 Many state laws restrict motors to 750watts. Go above that and your a motorcycle with all the restrictions that entails.

Forget about this nonsense.. ‘Nireeka’ is coming soon at $2499 with Mid drive motor Carbon fiber body and Ip65.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

I hope that release it soon.

@janespivey8315

2 жыл бұрын

Where can I find more info on that? First I'm hearing about a new Nireeka...

@samshigi9008

2 жыл бұрын

@@janespivey8315 ‘The inja’ posted a video about this bike

@MrNikola41

2 жыл бұрын

Completely different market. I personally prefer the moped style ebike over the mountain bike ones that look like everything else (again it depends on how or where you plan to use the bike, etc.). Also, I would take direct drive hub motors any day over mid drive. And at the higher speeds, you will always want a sturdier frame/bike. At these very low speeds/powers weight then becomes very important hence the Nireeka is very good for this.

The hydraulic brakes are overkill and a headache to maintain. They should have just went with cables.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

Both types of brakes have their pros and cons. It generally comes down to price point. Many of our customers prefer hydraulic brakes if they are spending more that $2000.

Too slow

@tonychesssnutsss1404

Жыл бұрын

29 miles

this is a moped.

Looks nice but, tall, heavy, slower, looks like sondors was trying too hard. It looks like a bicycle in the wrong clothes. The super 73 looks like a motorcycle missing an engine. It’s lighter, faster, and looks pretty good.

@cacogenicist

Жыл бұрын

Ariel Rider and Juiced's comparable bikes are also more powerful.

Just another video paid by Sondors?

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

Not at all. I bought this and the other two Madmods in June of 2020 when they were announced. I had to wait just like everyone else.

@samshigi9008

2 жыл бұрын

@@eBikesUSA your channel seems like it.

@eBikesUSA

2 жыл бұрын

I started with SONDORS bikes in 2015. Upgraded bunch of them and developed this channel. I own a large eBike store in Denver (named eBikes USA). We carry Stromer, Haibike, Diamondback, iZIP, Aventon, Magnum, Addmotor, Benno, a few other brands and SONDORS. We sell very few SONDORS compared to other brands. I just like doing these videos since that’s what I am most familiar with. I need to make videos about other brands we carry so the channel doesn’t look a SONDORS channel.

In comparison, Super 73 looks like a cheap Chinese made kids bike

@BRichSolution

2 жыл бұрын

I agree… the Super73 looks like a kids bike next to Sondors. My only druthers is the weight on the Madmods. It was advertised as 70lbs but final design is 114lbs. I’m ok with riding it, but transport becomes more of issue with bike of 90lbs

@chrisMc1972

2 жыл бұрын

My super 73R goes 33 mph with a peak 2000 watts and I weigh 210 lb so that would pretty much spank Grandpa's Sonders mobility scooter

@tonykim4468

2 жыл бұрын

No not true. Super 73 and ariel rider look better and run better. Madmods look way cheap and ugly ewww

@arunmaroli5946

2 жыл бұрын

@@BRichSolution I am reconsidering the Madmods since the logistics of transporting it approaching that of a motorcycle or scooter when compared my current ride Aventon Level which weighs 65lbs

This is one ugly bike. The frame is too heavy and thick...it has a weaker motor compared to the Ariel rider and Super 73. The upright handlebars look ridiculous when riding. With the thick frame, it looks like a poor-man's motorcycle. At least the Super 73 and Ariel Rider use thinner tube frames so that it LOOKS like a bike. This looks too much like a motorcycle and when he pedals, he looks embarrassing. And the top speed of 25 mph? What a joke. Also, the reviewer only goes 12 mph when testing the bike? Why not push it to show the viewers it's capabilities? That is a red flag right there in my book.

@ttngeo7494

2 жыл бұрын

Shut up

@dotiskingsp2997

2 жыл бұрын

Hey go get you a $3500 bike then 😆...I paid 1400 for mine, I'm cool with that

@Trillville43

2 жыл бұрын

The 48v x class has the same motor

@samshigi9008

2 жыл бұрын

Yup👏👏👏

@dickflinghammer58

2 жыл бұрын

@@dotiskingsp2997 Same here. My first e-bike too. At least we won't look like clowns on tiny wheeled circus bikes. I never left anything stock and this larger platform is ready for more power. For 1499 I paid I have 1500 left for power mods.

I better never see anyone riding that thing on my greenway trails. Thats NOT a bike, thats a moped. I could use it as my commuter tho.

@reyalitylol4796

2 жыл бұрын

Lol it has pedals and imma ride it on any trails I see.

@JayHood129

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like a hater bro, just saying!!!

@ToadallyMemes

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayHood129 why do people care whether or not I have to use all of my energy to ride the bike. Like they aren't much faster than how fast people can get normally. They aren't loud. They aren't gonna leak gas and oil. Ebikes are basically equal to normal bikes to everyone's safety and health in a area.

@howsth1s

2 жыл бұрын

Go read a statute. That thing is clearly a bicycle in most states.

@williamwilhite9193

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, me too. It's easy to pedal. P.S. There not "your" trails.