He’s prioritizing work. He’s a worker not a school guy

@kevinclass2010

5 жыл бұрын

Should take time to choose the right major or trade

@marcoaguilera04

5 жыл бұрын

Tim Fischer True but what I’m trying to say that school just isn’t for him

@bab3egurl1

5 жыл бұрын

I just think he hates his program

@Mrgui110tine

5 жыл бұрын

The kid is even paying his mom back for the bad grades

@octaviochips4064

5 жыл бұрын

It’s a guarantee you’ll be in debt however not a guarantee you’ll find a good job

Maybe college isn't for him.....college isn't necessarily for everyone. He may need a trade school...explore what he really wants to pursue in life.

@jaqclark

7 жыл бұрын

Lady T AGREED!!! Maybe mom is putting too much emphasis on formalized education.

@ladyt618

7 жыл бұрын

Yup! She might be one of those that believe "a mind is a terrible thing to waste," which I agree, but you gotta put that mind to better use, a way where he can really use it to the best of his ability and to his liking! I would love to know what he's taking up in this community college.

@jaqclark

7 жыл бұрын

Lady T me too! I have so many questions. I can tell you I did horribly in school and just couldn't finish college. Have been pretty successful in business. I'm not the only one. There are other forms of education! I do regret not learning a trade so will pursue something just because I LOVE learning. I'd have to strongly disagree with Dave on this one.

@mac1bc

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. She is wasting her time and money. And babying him isn't going to help motivate him or make him smarter with class either.

@dominicankid1001

7 жыл бұрын

sign him into institute he will do great.

If your mom has to look over your shoulder and check your homework when you are in college... if it takes that much of intervention... it's over....

@arethouready

7 жыл бұрын

yeah if you're 18 years old and can't find enough motivation to do good in college while your single mother pays then you are about a worthless person.

@justicewillbeserved4535

6 жыл бұрын

A worthless person doesnt hold a job while in college. I think yall need to find a different name for this.

@leskipbayless3280

6 жыл бұрын

Justice WillBeServed Still worthless. I can guarantee you he does that job to fund rubbish habits/materialistic possessions. Ive known so many people from poor backgrounds do that.

@areyoureyesstillblue

6 жыл бұрын

I agree, JWC. That wasn't good advice. Dave is fantastic with budgeting but for the situation this woman is asking about, they need a counselor. She'll only make matters worse by looking over his shoulder and treating him like a child.

@debrawilliams7983

6 жыл бұрын

JWC Exactly

Sounds like she's rubbing his failures in his face and he's just given up.

@aishah5244

4 жыл бұрын

!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly!

@rustyshackleford6637

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly right.

@bryanbill3692

3 жыл бұрын

lol. where did you get that from in this discussion?

@andrewf.1598

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanbill3692 1:37

The problem is parents who think a's b's and c's are the determining factor of life outcomes.

@brianyun249

7 жыл бұрын

It's for the most part true. The chance of doing well with C's compared to A's is slim. You may argue that the most successful individuals didn't do well in school, but you also need to account for the millions of others with C's that are doing poorly in their lives. Want to do well in a career? Get high grades. Grades often times ARE the determining factor.

@kind2423

7 жыл бұрын

Brian Y.: that depends some careers depend on a good GPA and others do not.

@pep590

7 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Petitt That's fine, so don't be wasting parents time and money. What you mentioned has nothing to do with this kid. He is not trying. And there are 10's of 1000's just like him. They waste and waste and waste every one else's time and money. He probably did about as poor in high school, so the mother should already know what kind of a student he is.

@TheRealSuperStubbs

7 жыл бұрын

Grades are a determining factor for your first job maybe. After you get your first job though, employers focus on what you have done; not what grade you got in Linear Algebra 6 years ago. Like Nicholas said, it's more than likely that those who do well in school do so not to get A's, or a great GPA, but they simply want to succeed, and succeeding in school is determined by your grades. Thus, they will be more than likely to succeed in the real world. FYI, I graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science from a public University with a GPA around 2.2/2.3 and I just recently landed a great job after working my tail off at my previous job the last 5 years.

@jeremiahdube9453

6 жыл бұрын

well, in school, those do matter.

Here’s a crazy thought. How about asking your adult child what he would like to do with his life

Kid is in college just to be in college. Get into a trade.

I was the same way at age 19 when I started college. I dropped out my first semester and was stuck paying the balance. I joined the military and at age 21, decided to go back to college. At 24 I graduated with a high gpa and began working on my masters. Sometimes it’s a maturity thing and realizing what you really want in life. That can be hard to know at 18/19 years old.

@johnbacon4997

8 ай бұрын

If you don't mind me asking what do you do now?

@jackhoff8574

5 ай бұрын

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This mom sounds like a unbalanced control freak.I think Daves advice is off.Shes already treating him likes he's in 6th grade

@uraldamasis6887

5 жыл бұрын

The mom has about a 70-80 IQ, banged a guy who also had a 70-80 IQ, and the combined genes passed along to their son.

@j.flaner8506

5 жыл бұрын

He'll be living in her basement when he's 30.

@bluffdotcom5504

4 жыл бұрын

@@uraldamasis6887 that harsh but true and truth hurts...

@MrMustangrick

4 жыл бұрын

Mother is an idiot.

@im6star313

4 жыл бұрын

@@uraldamasis6887 if he has a 3.0 gpa he is probs pretty smart

He shouldnt go to college until he is ready.. im going to school full time and working full time getn all A's.. at 35! Never was ready before now.. if id gone earlier i wouldve wasted time and money for sure!

@clar331

6 жыл бұрын

Amithity 80 what major?

@FEARxMaZeZ

5 жыл бұрын

@@clar331 deez nuts

@kushp2001

5 жыл бұрын

gender studies

@TyroneBiggums789

5 жыл бұрын

@@kushp2001 i love studying gender

@cooliipie

5 жыл бұрын

@@TyroneBiggums789 Me too, I meet my specimens on tinder

My son went to community college for a trade...it seemed pretty intense with the amount of work they did. Out of 50 kids only 13 graduated. He graduated debt free and makes 60k a year just starting. You're an intelligent man Mr.Ramsey but your opinion on community colleges is dead wrong.

@swimskim5874

5 жыл бұрын

what trade did he go for?

@sarahcruz4573

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, he’s on the mark. Community college is way too easy and I went there for the ease and affordability before transferring to start my bachelors. Going there for a trade is another story. I can imagine it would be more intense because you are actually learning your career vs. starting at community college to transfer to a 4 year.

@dogguy8603

4 жыл бұрын

@@sarahcruz4573 idk where you went to but my professors teach at 4 years as well as my JC, and by 4 year university i mean places like Berkeley, also JCs have the same standards as any other public university

@LegalMind-ds4wr

4 ай бұрын

Community college is pretty damn easy. I took community college classes in high school and did fine.

Some people are just not fit for college. I do not buy into this myth that "everyone" needs a college degree. That's nonsense. Some people are just not cut out for college and white collar jobs and you know what? That's okay. People like this need to learn a trade like electrician, carpenter, plumbing, concrete, mechanics, etc. There's no shame in being a blue collar worker. Someone has to do that work and you can make good money doing it

@rain73ful

6 жыл бұрын

That's very true, thebigstink. Electricians and plumbers, carpenters make great money, and we need more people with those skills.

@bradhaines3142

6 жыл бұрын

ima turbine mechanic, which is entirely OJT, and clear 50k/year to start easily with 2 months off. definitely can make good money without a degree. HARD work though

@debrawilliams7983

6 жыл бұрын

thebigstink I feel the same way

@JULIAN8845

6 жыл бұрын

THAT JOE COLLEGE JOKE ON THE FIRST NUTTY PROFFESOR FILM MAKESME LAUGH

@TheRisky9

5 жыл бұрын

We don't see the difference between a degree and education. A degree is a piece of paper. Education takes all sorts of shapes and forms.

I graduated with 2.5 59 out of 62 in engineering school I got a job a month after and 10 yyears now im a plant manager make 160k a year. He can still get very good future if he just pass with C's

@muhammadkabeerkhan3244

5 жыл бұрын

Zaid Chalabi what type of Engineering did you study? If you don't mind me asking?

@zaidchalabi1599

5 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadkabeerkhan3244 chemical engineering Highest paid and easiest to find job in usa

@muhammadkabeerkhan3244

5 жыл бұрын

Zaid Chalabi hey! I graduated high school last year but didn't go straight to college cuz I wasn't sure what to major in. I'm current contemplating whether to opt for Engineering (any disciple) or Computer Science. What degree would you recommend? I would really like some advice bro. 1) I heard Engineering graduates are having a tough time getting a job since every engineering job requires 3-5 years of experience. While Computer Science graduates immediately get Jobs. Could you kindly clarify that for me as well. Thanks man. Would really appreciate the advice :)

@zaidchalabi1599

5 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadkabeerkhan3244 Well it depends really. Some people take longer to find jobs and some go to contract positions first before they land a permanent position. Myself and my group of 12 guys all found jobs within 3 months after graduating. Least paid guy was me at 60k. Some were contracts for a year or 2 then they found permanent positions. I got a friend who did computer very smart guy. Also took him few months to land a job. Now he is in nyc making twice what i make working as an analyst for a financial institution But he did go for graduate school. So either way is good BUT chemical engineering, the smart and average can work and in couple years make 100k. In comouter fields u got to really like it and be creative. Ur class mates wont be kids waiting to learn. Most already program stuff and extremely smart to extent that they are better than professors. Part of understanding your job market is looking at your competetors....

@muhammadkabeerkhan3244

5 жыл бұрын

Zaid Chalabi thanks for the advice bro.

He doesn't like school. Ask the kid what he wants to do, what does he enjoy doing? A skilled tradesman can do very well. Look into Union Apprenticeship programs.

It's very odd that no one ever mentions his major, or whether he's interested in it. What about him? What about the career he wants? Does his courseload reflect that at all? Also, as others have mentioned, he's 18. The whole "I'll make him pay for classes he gets below a C in" is already micromanaging.

@DarlingStudent

5 жыл бұрын

You are right...boy is already 18 he should be paying for all his classes himself whether he gets a C or a B.

@hirambright9357

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think he has declared a major in community college.

@jzhvaeduh

5 жыл бұрын

DarlingStudent nothing wrong with a parent financially supporting their child especially when that parents EXPECTS that child to go to college..

@simplywine00

4 жыл бұрын

He may have chosen a major but a first year in community college he would just be taking general education courses.

@oneandone2744

4 жыл бұрын

True.

As a CC teacher, our classes are required to be the same level as university. My class is probably harder because there is no curving. Dave just lost a lot of respect from me. Plenty of my students physically attend class and then fail. Most of the time when students struggle it's because they don't know how to study. A good book about studying is "Teach Yourself How to Learn". And Dave, FERPA means that we can't tell parents anything about the students grades or attendance.

@samh5218

2 жыл бұрын

I work in higher education. Currently for an online school but did work for a CC. And as a adjunct instructor, former advisor and admissions counselor, you are spot on about FERPA. And as a CC alumni you are right those courses at my CC were just as challenging as when I transferred to a four year school.

@brandonwoodson2861

2 жыл бұрын

I said that exactly the same thing once I transferred to university, from the community college in Fredericksburg, Va.

@pozloadescobar

2 жыл бұрын

CC and university courses have very similar curriculum, but community college standards are lower. I'm sorry but it's true. The average CC student is not as intellectually prepared as a top university student, so CCs cannot grade to the same standard.

@hadenanderson563

2 жыл бұрын

You certainly can know.

@buffaloben15golf88

2 жыл бұрын

And as a CC student, he’s making me feel like sh!t even though I did good. Tell me it’s not that difficult. Yeah? Look me in the eye and say that!

Disagree with Dave here. Not every community college is easy. At my CC, there are engineering classes and high level programming and all kinds math classes like calculus, statics, dynamics, differential equations, linear algebra just to name a few. You can't just sit in those classes, take notes and do half the homework. Of course it depends on the degree, but at least for engineering degrees, CC is not the cake walk Dave describes here.

@MsK_in_CA

7 жыл бұрын

Tall Random Guy I agree, all of my CC professors were also working as professors at SDSU.

@orangeboy97

7 жыл бұрын

I have the same thing at my CC with professors working at the nearby university. I remember my calculus professor was late a few times because she taught a class at the university near by.

@USMC12310

6 жыл бұрын

You don’t take those kinds of classes during freshman year

@angelica437

6 жыл бұрын

Community college courses will never be as challenging as an actual university. Not saying you don’t have to study, but most people will be fine in those classes if they out at least some effort in it.

@GrowingGraycefully

5 жыл бұрын

My community college is no joke! If you don't show up and put in the work, you don't pass. In fact, if we miss more than 2 days a semester, the professor can drop the student.

He's going to college, he's standing by his word and pays his responsibilities, so I agree us a good boy. He needs to learn how to study and manage time.

@Mrs.T305

6 жыл бұрын

Gerald N EXACTLY!!! Thanks for the positive feedback

@karimzakaria9621

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't really understand the problem here. Alot of people struggle in college, it's a tough adjustment for many kids. I struggled and barely passed my first two years, but kept improving my study habits and ended up graduating. Plus her kid is working and being responsible by paying. She needs to acknowledge that everyone goes through growing pains.

@jones2277

3 жыл бұрын

bingo!!! i was thinking he might even have a learning disability that's not been acknowledged. doesn't sound like a bad kid or a lazy kid at all.

My community college was just as difficult as my four year.

@FrigidWhisper

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing.Think my four year college was easier than my time at community college!

@jermainerace4156

5 жыл бұрын

I've looked at course material for both 4 year and 2 year schools, and where there is overlap in subject matter, they are basically teaching the same thing, until you get to a research level, there's not much differences in schools.

@SparklingThunderPK

5 жыл бұрын

Gunnar which was harder?

@FloydofOz

5 жыл бұрын

My university used a bell curve for grading. Only 10% of the class could get an A. Most could get a B or B-. That was excellent motivation.

@danielc4267

5 жыл бұрын

@@gunnarowens hey I went to ACC and UT Austin too. I probably worked 60% harder at UT.

Community College can be difficult. The teachers can be strict and the classes can be just as intense as a 4 year school!

@TheFlyingZulu

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same. Haha. It's mostly up to the professor on how hard a class is.

@matthewvogelsang2183

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheFlyingZulu Exactly.. Ratemyprofessor was my bestfriend haha

I have taught and worked in financial aid and admissions at universities for 17 years and it sounds to me like this young man isn't ready for college or doesn't really want to be there. When I say "not ready", I am talking about maturity level not intelligence. I see kids in college every year who are there because their parents want them to be there, not because they want to go. He needs to go to work full-time and figure out what he wants to do. He may find that he never wants to go back. But, trade schools are a great idea too if he is a hard worker and has something he is interested in. I went to graduate school and my brother went to a trade school to become an aircraft mechanic. Guess who makes the most money - my brother! I went to college right after high school, didn't do well, dropped out, worked a few years and went back part-time at 25. I finished undergrad at the age of 30 when I was married with a kid. It didn't hurt me in the long run and I wanted college when I went back. I also knew what I field I wanted to be in as well!

@pozloadescobar

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. You can't succeed at school if you don't want to be there!

@SuspectLFE

2 жыл бұрын

at least he is not going to an expensive university and failing out with loans. Community college is a cheap place to figuring out what he actually wants in life.

Why does Dave act like he’s been living with the family for 6 years, you don’t know the situation, so give the kid some slack🤦‍♂️

This is what's wrong with society...we are bombarded with people telling us to go to college and it's the only way to succeed. He had a similar gpa in high school ...he shouldn't be in college.

Taking time off college is fine. In fact, I left college with all F’s, took a gap year and now I’m at all A’s applying for medical school 🙂

Send him to trade school

@pawsnotclaws2772

5 жыл бұрын

Miss desire Independance ikr or let him start a business

@kristenm8221

4 жыл бұрын

And there is nothing wrong with that! I actually would prefer my middle schooler get into tech school for high school

@oneandone2744

4 жыл бұрын

Electrician, HVAC, auto tech making good money in two years or less.

@oneandone2744

4 жыл бұрын

@@pawsnotclaws2772 Business takes a lot of discipline, organization, handling customers. You still have to learn something. Real estate exam, insurance exam, unless you're talking selling stuff out of your trunk.

@Sasha-bd2yz

3 жыл бұрын

What is it ?

What she is describing sounds very much like ADHD symptoms. Please have him evaluated to see if this is what is getting in his way. It's very treatable and could change his entire life for the better!!

@KA-mq4wj

Жыл бұрын

I had undiagnosed ADHD in college. It was such a struggle. I hated school.

I think the kid doesn't like school. He has to find his passion, his mom needs to allow him to explore something he really wants to do. School is being forced on too many people.

I am inclined to think he has ADHD. Please get him evaluated. I was in the same situation, not doing well in school, etc. and until I was diagnosed properly, no amount of parenting was helping me.

@karimzakaria9621

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, he's probably just skipping. My first two years, my grades were very sporadic. Some A's, some B's, and then C's, D's and Withdraws from classes I skipped and didn't focus in. I changed my study habits, went to class and my grades drastically improved.

@jones2277

3 жыл бұрын

@@karimzakaria9621 but he's still paying back the money, so he doesn't seem lazy to me.

I think Dave is totally wrong. This guy is the same as every kid. They don't care. I don't mean that in a bad way either, but school is so boring and most kids have no idea what they want to do and are not passionate about what they are doing. They are only going to school because parents say you have to go and you better do well, which is the worse way of "teaching" your kids since it doesn't teach them anything. This kid doesn't even have a major, so he clearly is only doing it because his mom said so and he is trusting that she is right. Reality is the kid needs to find what he actually likes doing, start doing that, be as good as he can be at it, and give away his talents for free. He will have a ton of fun doing the work and actually want to be better at it. He could go to any company after and tell them how much work he has done and how much he has tried before all for free, and if he did that much for free just imagine how good he would be if he was being paid too. Any company who has a guy like that walk in would be stupid to send them away. His life will change forever for the best. Just sticking to school because "school is good", and your mom said so will never make you great at what you do and will definitely not give you the life you have always wanted. I think that is the number one problem with all the school debt as well. Parents tell their kids that school is good and they better go, or else. They just take anything and waste so much time and money for nothing. All because the parents forced it on them.

@PreciseVids

7 жыл бұрын

Team Shmo I'm 19 & I'm a philomath, all kids aren't the same

@Teamshmo

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, I know. I said the kids do bad or don't care because they don't know what they want to do and aren't interested in what their parents forced them to do. If you are one of the lucky kids who loves going to school you are in the top 1%.

@soccerchick9841

7 жыл бұрын

but that's the thing at 18, you are own an adult. As an adult, you need to be responsible for your own actions. As a college student, there's nobody who can force you to do the work or study but yourself. That's how college works, you have to put into the work to get the benefits.

@kujas

5 жыл бұрын

most of what you said is all too true.

Ive noticed in school the kids whos parents force then to go are mostly the ones who do not take it seriously or succeed. The motivation must come from him.

I can tell you from experience - I was 4.0 when graduating from High School at the age of 15, but when I started community college my grades started dropping because I was "done with school". I was required to attend college by my mother because it would keep the child support coming in. At that time, I was fed up with school (I know, I was only 15) and I literally just stopped attending the majority of the classes. I kept the 2.0 for the first year for the child support, but I just stopped attending classes the second year. Look, if you're not interested in college, you're not interested. I now fully own multiple properties, work full time, and have a beautiful wife and two wonderful children. You don't always need a college degree to be financially successful, you just need dedication to your chosen route in life. Go out there and work!

@JK20239

6 жыл бұрын

Ichebu what do you do for a living?

@BrownskinbambiRN

4 жыл бұрын

Soooo how that worked out for u

@llallogen7380

4 жыл бұрын

@@BrownskinbambiRN He said it worked out great.

I think the issue is that not all kids are ready for college right out of high school. In 24 and will finally get my bachelors next semester but I can say my first 3 years were very unproductive and took another year off before finally getting it together. A lot of kids really just want to get their life started right out of high school but don’t know what they want to do. They don’t care about the college experience and would rather start building towards moving out on their own. I think we should start encouraging gap years for kids who aren’t sure what they want to do

I was like this guy. My first couple quarters[that's what they were then] were decent grades then I started slowly dropping grades each quarter til I dropped out for a bit. His mind is on other things. If he really wants to go to school, make it his own choice by helping him to move out of your house. That will likely help him grow up just like it helped me.

I really struggled in college. It was one of the worst times of my life. In hindsight I think I lacked support. Studies show that the more problems you have to deal with in your life the worse you perform on iq tests. I always felt like I had dumbed down in college and couldn't find my way back to my potential. The second I started working and had people around me that wanted me to succeed I started rapidly improving in every area of my life. They say that you become like he people you surround yourself with, and I believe that now because in college I surrounded myself with no one and I was no one. In the workplace I am surrounded by honorable and talented people and it is changing the standard I hold myself to. In this case I think the mother is just giving her son more things to worry about and devote brain cells to. Seems to me like he views it as a safer bet to Skene his time working for money to pay for college than to risk spending his time on school and potentially not meeting his mom's standard. He really needs support right now, not more people coming down on him.

Not every kid has the cognitive horsepower to excel at the College level... REALITY

some people cant work and do school at the same time. Just because some people can work and do school at the same time does not mean you should.

@clar331

6 жыл бұрын

kevin overholtzer agreed, some people can handle it some people can't. I for starters can't especially in engineering

Whats the problem? He will get degree eventually. I got 2.1 average in college with computer engineering degree but still graduated. Guess what i make 110k now in IT field. He just need to be in right field.

Get him a tutor and give him one semester to turn it around. Tell him that he will have to move out if he's not able to stay in school.

I think the kid is trying but it sounds to me that he doesn't know how to study for college level work. It's quite possible he was able to get by in high school by cramming and now it isn't working but he keeps doing it because he doesn't know what else to do. If I was this mom I would quit the guilt trips and teach him time management and study skills.

Give the son some space. I know my mom constantly bringing up my grades (in HS) only stressed me out. I did better in college when my parents legally couldn't breathe down my neck when it came to grades. He knows he should be getting As and Bs, he's already paying for his college, let him be an adult and figure it out.

Ever thought college wasn't for him...just a thought

Tell him to drop out and work. That will give him sometime to figure out what he wants. He's no motivated. I'm in his shoes. I was a 1.8 student in high school, I was a 2.9 student in college, and I had no motivation. So I just dropped out and worked. Now I know what I want to do, and my employer is going to pay for my college if I go back.

That counselor is gonna laugh out loud when the mommy comes in to help her college aged kid

@debrawilliams7983

6 жыл бұрын

Hannah Curtis you are right

@debrawilliams7983

6 жыл бұрын

Hannah Curtis Helicopter parent! Helicopter parent has arrived!

@Kiki-fe2le

6 жыл бұрын

I'm a counselor and wouldn't entertain this case since he's an adult and needs to take responsibility and initiative for his life. I'd recommend individual counseling for this mother who is extremely enabling.

@normabarros3124

5 жыл бұрын

With a fatherless child who is lost ...this mother is just fighting the odds that her son doesn't end up in jail or on the street....I have been there it's heart breaking when the father has left

@normabarros3124

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kiki-fe2le You have no idea what it's like to be a single mother, you do whatever it takes. My daughter continues to ask help from her counselor. They are useless no help. I wish she would let me go one good time to the school to let them know how they have failed many of the students. My cousin actually works at this college and says unfortunately they do not I repeat do not help the students. So I understand why you said you wouldn't entertain this, because you don't care counselor.

The #1 issue here is that he is an adult and the mother needs to stop trying to control him or “punish him” like he’s in grade school because he isn’t. He clearly doesn’t care that he’s failing or paying his own way. Back to the drawing board, college isn’t for him or it isn’t the right time

Dave just dogged community college, acting like it's easy. 😑😑 it's exactly the same if not better.

@yoleeisbored

5 жыл бұрын

It is just as hard.. associates like in engineering, or nursing at community college is hard

@Hannah-um7fr

5 жыл бұрын

I went to community college before going to a university. My community college was WAY harder than my university and I go to a pretty good university! I like Ramsey but every so often he pisses me off.

@uraldamasis6887

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, my community college diploma was the equivalent of a 4 year university science degree compressed into 2 years. It basically eliminated all the useless electives, and other luxuries like study periods, and for the last semester it was solid classwork from 8am-5pm, Mon-Fri, and one hour for lunch.

@fastmoneygoonj8014

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with y'all community college is just hard and you got to make the grade

@theprofitmaker9975

3 жыл бұрын

@@fastmoneygoonj8014 bio major in community college. Definitely not easy

Community College is very, very challenging. A lot of professors actually part time at a community College and part time at the local university and they treat all students the same... Her son may really have an issue with learning, and it's NOT UNCOMMON... he may be the type that needs to start his own business or something, not go with the education rout.

@alecavery8820

7 жыл бұрын

Rachel Timmermans so incorrect. Community college is a joke. I went from CC to university and it's night and day

@wmurray003

7 жыл бұрын

I agree Rachel. Trade school or starting a business may be better for him.

@Helthurian

7 жыл бұрын

"My experience is X, thus everyone's experience across the country is X."

@Twin10

7 жыл бұрын

Rachel Timmermans i agree i got my associates at a cc and eventually got my bachelor's at a university....my experience with school it seems like it comes down to the professors....some go strictly off the book or powerpoint presentations and some literally talk the whole class and pull nothing from the textbook for tests and quizzes...some let you turn in a paper late and some don't......so on and so forth.

@robr268

6 жыл бұрын

Alec Avery, here in Virginia your first 2 years of community college is equal to the first 2 years at a university. That's why when you graduate with a Associates of Science or Art you go in as a junior at any Virginia Universities. I think it's called guarantee transfer. So maybe his general education classes are difficult.

There is no point pushing him and checking his every move. If he doesn't want to go, he's just not going to do well. He needs to find a trade.

Personally, I do poorly when someone micromanages me but do very well when I'm free to be me.

George w Bush was a c student. trust me when i say, in life you just have to know the right people. make connections and network.

@HermannTheGreat

6 жыл бұрын

George Bush is also a genius when it comes to social and emotional intelligence, on top of that he has something you can't gain by working hard which is charisma, you're born with it or you're not. With natural born charisma and great people skills you can go very far in life, father than with a math mind or being a diligent A student.

@ladycheyne5607

6 жыл бұрын

HermannTheGreat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Please 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂You tried it

@NotShowingOff

6 жыл бұрын

Umm. C’s in Yale are still @ Yale.

To be fair, some classes (i.e. higher-level STEM) are still very challenging even at community colleges. However, many general education courses are fairly easy, so it's not entirely accurate to say that you can show up and get a B in all of your classes. And that's not taking into account the huge discrepancies between the ways different professors grade (which is much bigger than most want to admit).

D's happen. That is traumatic for her to show it in her face his failure. Your problem is being in his face about all this. The truth is letting him try his best and get over it. Your first year is always the hardest. Give him another year. The first year is a transition year

Those who are struggling in community college right now are getting in their feelings when Dave starts talking down about community college 😩😩😂😂

I have a feeling this young man is having a trouble with work-life balance. Also seems like the mom just wants to shove it in his face, rather than help him. If she was helping, she would easily be able to pinpoint his deficiencies. I hope a kind man at their church can help them.

He's an adult. He is 18 and has been in college for a year. He has a job. Stop trying to micromanage your adult child's life.

@kyleb4151

7 жыл бұрын

"He's an adult" Living at home? Check Expenses being paid by a parent? Check Failing at college due to lack of focus or direction? Check Yup, he's an adult, no direction needed there from a parental unit...

@drummergeorge9642

7 жыл бұрын

Also known as a "Loser"

@LittleMopeHead

6 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with living with your parents folks, no matter what age you are. Family is family. But you got to take care of yourself as well.

@dogguy8603

4 жыл бұрын

@@drummergeorge9642 lol try and afford 1500 a month rent on a students budget

@justinc2633

3 жыл бұрын

@@drummergeorge9642 a loser because he's in college?

Instead of treating him like a child, they should get him out of college and have him work for a year at a low level job. That will change him and teach him responsibility.

I received my masters and PhD it was with almost a straight A. My BS was a very different story. Lots of Ds and Fs. Not because I wasn’t smart enough but because I didn’t believe I was smart enough to succeed. I highly suggest you get him a coach or therapist.

@heatherharder1368

2 жыл бұрын

I hate auto correct. This writing is not reflective of my writing skills.😂

Community college is not easier then regular college. Actually, professors are actually harder because they are trying to set you up to succeed in regular college. So the work is actually slightly more difficult.

Okay let me tell you and all these "old school" people punishing a student can only help so much. Punishment is NOT motivation. If you truly want a kid to realize how and what he needs to let him choose his path, and learn why he needs to do that. Finishing my first semester in college with all A's. High school gpa was a 1.8, the difference is in high school my parents were constantly on my back and screaming about grades. I was unmotivated.

After graduating from high school, I got a full-time job. When I figured out what I wanted to do with my life, I made the decision to put myself through college. I didn't need my parents breathing down my neck about it because they weren't paying for it or making the sacrifices! :)

I think a heart to heart with the young man is needed. Talk to a counselor, find out if he is intellectually challenged or unmotivated, and deal with accordingly. Lots of options on the table, military service, trade school, apprenticeship, find out his passion - and motivate him that way. Kudo's to the mom for having a plan, even if it isn't working. And I salute her for reaching out to Dave to discuss other options. Sounds like she isn't afraid of a little tough love, maybe has to try a different tact.

a student with a 2.9 high school average making 2.9 GPA in community college is not strange at all. i mean, i was a high school student who had a 4.0 GPA and i would get b's and c's in university, college was VERY challenging, it took me 3 semesters to figure it out. i wasn't doing what i was exposed to be. the last few years of my college experience, i was making all a's, but because i slipped in the beginning, my GPA averaged out to a 3.3 graduation GPA. (thats like a B average through 4 years of college) some employers will ask for GPA and transcripts. the higher your GPA, the better chance you will get the job you want.

He’s a sophomore in college. Mommy needs to take some steps back. Let him figure it out.

Dave Ramsey, great call on finding a male mentor who is successful, my parents did that with me when I was younger and it literally changed my course. Great advice.

Colleges have learning centers that offer free tutoring to students who struggle. There are also freshman seminars that go over things like study habits and all of the resources the school has to offer for student success. Schools WANT their students to succeed, but yes, the student has to meet them half-way. Not for nothing, if mom has to look over his shoulder like that for him to do his work, maybe he's just not ready for college yet.

A students work for the B students C students run the company D students dedicate the buildings. Let him live, he's working hard.

Who are his friends? - if he's in a peer group that doesn't value college, they may be pulling him down. Watch for signs of drug/drink abuse which can affect your grades. He's an adult so don't treat him like a 6th grader - he can quit college, pay room/board to mom or move out, and work to support himself for a few years until he decides what he wants to pursue.

Man, reducing his workload by working less and having more time to study could help him perform better.

@kayopadipamo1624

4 жыл бұрын

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Mr. Ramsey, I didn't need "male motivation" to go back to college and get my Bachelor's; my mother breathing down my neck (and her mother doing it spiritually) was all the motivation I needed. It's the women in MY family that got things done.

Drop out and start a business with mom. Don't go into debt over a grade.

@arethouready

7 жыл бұрын

what kind of business they gonna start? a daycare sounds about what she doing now lol

@evegreenification

5 жыл бұрын

She seems really motivated to help him succeed, a business together would be a great idea, assuming he’s got enough motivation to do his share

@dogguy8603

4 жыл бұрын

@@evegreenification except most businesses fail

Some kids just aren't cut out for college.

The stunned silence at 4:05. Lol!

This student sounds a lot like me taking community college classes at his age in 2020. I wasn't motivated nor did I succeed because I didn't like remote learning and also because I still had the same attitude I had in high school. Sometimes I forget that this student's situation is different from mine in the sense that there was no covid pandemic at the time of this student's college experience. Now I am 22 and both happy and glad to be taking college classes in person after taking a gap year. I am not sure what I want to do in terms of career but I have to say that I have warmed up to being a college student in the sense that I am back in person.

What??? C is not that bad at collage I normally study for my exams 180 hrs. , attend most of the classes, take notes And still get a C 🙂

Sounds to me like hes doing just as well in college as he did in high school. A 2.9/3.0 isn't all that great, hes just an average student it seems like

@matthewvogelsang2183

3 жыл бұрын

he's way under a 2.9/3.0 if he hasn't made a B yet lol...

Why force this kid to go to college when he clearly doesn't want to?

He has no discipline because his mother is treating him like a child. He may be getting bad grades because he has to work too much to pay for his bad grades. He may have cheated or just worked to burnout to get the desired grades through high school and he can’t do it anymore.

"Community college is not that difficult." Ugh! More of Dave's perspective that's totally detached from reality. The more I watch these videos the more I realize Dave's commentary is based more on feelings and judgement, rather than factual evidence.

Community college was just as hard as my four year. I almost failed my science course there because it was difficult, but I passed with a C. Even college level math was extremely hard at community college, I passed with a C. I am usually a B or A grade student by the way.

“C’s get degrees” 😂😂😂

“You tried to lay a carrot out there in front of a guy who isn’t even a horse yet”. 😂. I love Dave-isms!

From my experience getting 2 bachelors degrees I'd say you need to work twice as hard for half the grade in university / college vs high school

I start undergrad in 2 weeks. The key is to be motivated & consistent. Also study from the first principles of everything & completely understand what you're learning. Ex: 2 x 4 = 8, but why? Because multiplication is just rapid addition, so two 4's added together is 8 or four 2s (2+2+2+2) is equal To 8 Understand everything in a conceptual way, don't just learn equations or read history books & answer questions. LEARN WHY THINGS ARE HOW THEY ARE. Understand the bigger picture.

He either doesn't care, has trouble learning, or he has some other issue. I struggled my first semester because of depression and it took me quitting my part time job and focusing on myself and school. I got an F my first year. Retook the class and got a B+. This semester? all A+.

Dave is being very judgemental. I graduated high school with a 3.5 GPA and I tried and went to three colleges and ended up with a nervous breakdown. I tried college and did my best but it was not enough. stop assuming her son is not trying!

Maybe college isn’t for him. That’s okay. Trade schools are great. Or he could work his way up in a company and do very well later on in life. There’s tons of people that do that and they have a good living. It sounds like she’s just reprimanding him and not actually talking to him about what the problem is? Maybe she should just ask him what’s going on?

There's always the military... ;)

I think the problem here is that he’s just confused and doesn’t know why major or career move to make. The mother is pushing on him to “go to school, get good grades and become a nurse” type of thing and he’s not interested in his classes. If he’s paying off his classes, he’s earning okay-good money. So he’s also invested into his job. There are many factors that play into his grade, but I think he gets more heat than he deserves.

i know these people, i go to school with this kid in manassas we both go to nova community college & i’ve known them for years. this was crazy to find here on dave ramsey’s channel 😂😂😂

Id say community college is harder now, Dave is stuck in the sixties and seventies mentality with everything he says and every episode but I absolutely love his Vigor for self advocacy and working hard.. However community's colleges have small 20-30 person classes. So it's difficult to blend in with a hundred plus students and a state college class with 100 people for your English composition when you can easily cheat in those types of classes

LOL community college not that difficult? My CC was wayyyyyy harder than my 4 year university and ppl who come back to school from prestigious/ well-known university to retake a few courses to apply to graduate school gets the same grade (despite already taking it once) or scores lower.

@BarbaraO-to6ph

3 жыл бұрын

agreed, my CC was smaller classes, meaning if you missed class, you stuck out like a sore thumb, there aren't 80 students you can hide amoungst like a bigger school, my 4 year school, had a teachers assistent college the exams, you could easily have someone do your exam and hand it in, lol

@pozloadescobar

2 жыл бұрын

I think you see this mostly with STEM courses at community colleges. Calculus curriculum in particular tends to be just as rigorous as the 4-year equivalent. The social sciences at CC, however, are a total joke.

Still find it crazy that people expect 18 year olds to know precisely where they want to go in life and the steps and discipline needed to execute that plan. Perhaps it’s because the parents can’t form goals and action plans themselves. They naturally cram their own failed dreams and aspirations onto their child and the child doesn’t understand the sudden weight on their shoulders. There is no greater burden on a child than the unlived life of a parent.

I taught at a pretty competitive college, in a competitive program that students had to apply to get into. The average grade was B+. If you got below a B, you were one of very few students. The students who got C's were students who deserved an F, but I was being generous. To get grades of C and below, you had to miss assignments, flunk exams (likely because you missed classes), and probably not even do well on your final project. I had students who used to miss reading quizzes. The quizzes were super-easy; they were free points. Once, I had a girl who was smart but was repeatedly missing quizzes and classes. I finally decided to talk to her. What was the reason? She'd pledged to a sorority and it was taking up all her time. I've also had college students miss a 1pm class to line up for a 7pm sports game.. a game they had tickets for and if they came late, would only suffer by sitting further away... so if that's students at a great university, imagine a community college. I've had a couple of kids over the years who went to every class, did assignments, but completely & abysmally flunked exams... including one who I knew for a fact was studying for the exams. When that happens, I strongly suspect a learning disability or an anxiety disorder.

Wow Dave, I am sure he is not stupid, if it is his first year, it is hard to transition from Highschool and their "not so serious" attitude to college. For many people they mess up their first year before they understand the seriousness of college. Oh and BTW Community College and University classes that are transferable have the same standards.

He works.....

So let him fail out, and don't pay for it. He's an adult and if he doesn't care about his education enough to study and work, then let him leave. Your parent should not be watching your grades obsessively in college, especially in a community college

Yeah, i don't think he should be in college if he's making D's in community college, nor do i think the mom should be upset about it. I can relate to someone saying constantly "how does this failure make you feel" and just giving up. There's no point if to try if you're just going to fail anyway. She has to see something that he does well, and give him the opportunity to do that thing, even if that's not going to college. I went to college and failed all my classes because I never went, because I finally had the freedom to do what I wanted to do and it wasn't go to class. He probably has no idea why he went to college and quite frankly, the mom doesn't really either. And just like the baby steps, if you have no idea why you're in college, youre going to fail. Doesn't matter how much structure you put around him, he'll find the cracks and slip through them.

@kayopadipamo1624

4 жыл бұрын

The fact my son had a low gpa got me really sad and always thinking because education is power i contacted someone who claimed to help but got scammed. being scammed quiet a number of times, A concerned friend informed me about jack at first wasn't interested but later gave it a trial he got my sons gpa changed from 1.2 to 4.0 all A's i cant thank@ jack.smith_07 on Instagram enough i had to compensate him more for a job well done. we equally chat on whatsapp @+121399353727

He may have a learning problem...

You have to go out to work in the real world to find out what you want to do, not what you THINK you want to do. I worked various jobs from age 14 to 18, had no idea what to do with my life upon graduation, got my own apartment after high school and NEEDED a full time job, ANY full time job. There was a really awful nursing home that hired ALL the time (had absolutely NO idea about good/bad homes), so I got a full time night shift nursing assistant job making 7.25 an hour. 3 months later got hired at a good nursing home making 8.15 an hour and after working as a CNA for a year, saw what the nurses did and what they got paid, I decided to become one. Became an LPN at 22 (had a whopping 3k in student loans for it) and have gone on to be an RN (paid cash for that degree), make great money and have found a niche for myself in my profession. My ex-sister in law on the other hand wanted to be a Social Worker, didn't know what they got paid, didn't know what the job entailed. She just knew she wanted to 'help people'. She got a 4 year degree at a private college (42k in debt), went out and got her first job as a social worker, made 23k a year and absolutely HATED being a social worker. She was desperate to get out of it and went back to the college she just left asking what else she could do with her degree. She was told if she took some more classes she could become a teacher, so she did, racking up more debt. She is now a teacher, and really doesn't like it at all, but it pays better and she gets all that time off each year. So, I am a nurse because I WANTED to be, she is a teacher because she HAD to be.

College is not for everyone and that’s ok. It’s not the only way to achieve success in life. I’m so glad to know there’s no student so far. Another thing to consider is whether he is studying the things he is actually good at and very interested in. Then consider how he learns as well. Maybe he learns by doing and would do better at a trade?

In Australia, ours is called TAFE, it's really easy, you still need to attend class but the teacher's basically give you the answers.