I have done PhD research on this topic. The Metal hydride we were going to use was very very expensive which made it unpractical. But we shifted focus to Solid State Ammonia storage which can be used for hydrogen storage as well. The principle is exactly the same, except it works with halides. Some metallic hallides can store ammonia at very high gravimetric storage densities which makes it competitive to solid state hydrogen storage. The operation pressures are not high, materials are inexpensive and environmentally safe, and the storage pressure is below room temperature, so there is no risk of leaking.

@niallmccourt

Жыл бұрын

Would love to know more on this

@infocat13

Жыл бұрын

Use this and battery storage for shipping at sea, Off shore wind and solar for recharging.

@infocat13

Жыл бұрын

North Sea wind to recharge ships at Rotterdam:)

@KafshakTashtak

Жыл бұрын

You can look into ASME Power and Energy conference, Journal of heat and mass transfer, and Journal of Energy resources technology. You need to find papers on the topic.

@lazyremnant380

Жыл бұрын

In your opinion, do you think it's possible for metal hydrides to replace LH2 on rockets someday? Is it possible for hydrides to release its hydrogens fast enough to satisfy the huge mass flow requirement (kilograms per seconds) of a rocket?

Please address all the points in the busted. I know he's snarky, but he's a credible scientist making correct points. It's dangerous to promote disproven concepts.

@LoneWolf0648

Жыл бұрын

this whole channel is "amazing new material" or "major breakthrough" and other clickbait titles... the LACK of proper research done is obvious and it comes out as more of an ad for the company making this impossible product, like the solar roadways that have failed over and over.

@olegglushko8124

Жыл бұрын

@@LoneWolf0648 It's beyond obvious to anyone who uses their brains on a daily basis

@stefengullicksen314

Жыл бұрын

Matt the physics don't add up.

@00coon00

Жыл бұрын

This channel is bullshit

@englishrupe01

Жыл бұрын

@@JS-xf4ov LMAO

Making corrections is one of the main reasons I watch. We appreciate it.

Can't wait for the re-redo, nothing here is correct.

@FallenStarFeatures

Жыл бұрын

Correction: Nothing here to correct.

@1LY4x8s96r

Жыл бұрын

@@FallenStarFeatures Right? So tell me how he firstly said that 300ºC was needed to release H from the metal and out of no explanation, that he just said it was only 95ºC, and after that he even says only 60ºC, and no explanation on how that was possible. I'm not even going to mention about the efficiency and "low cost" subject. He just spoke for minutes without really explaining anything. Throwing some shallow information and no explanation.

@FallenStarFeatures

Жыл бұрын

@@1LY4x8s96r - Agreed, there's literally NOTHING HERE. Hence, nothing here that can be corrected.

@MrTomyCJ

Жыл бұрын

@@1LY4x8s96r He was talking about different techniques. When he talks about the 60ºC , he instantly mentions that it's an improvement over the 300ºC figure mentioned earlier. What's with these shallow critiques?

@synth1002

Ай бұрын

how much you are paid by ev idiots?

Appreciate how Matt reviews the yt comments and takes feedback from the community to create a whole new video/explanation for us to fully understand. Thank you

@adlockhungry304

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that’s empirical content creation at its finest.

@SailorRalph

Жыл бұрын

One of the reasons I absolutely love his channel.

@ryansullivan3085

Жыл бұрын

And yet he hasn't heard of 16:9 for god's sake.

@CantPickTheNameIwant

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmelemede5610 agree

@b_dawg_17

Жыл бұрын

It's videos like these that earn my trust back. I saw a response video that tore the original to shreds. But I think everything was cleared up and explained by this video in more than sufficient detail. Big kudos to Matt on recognizing his mistakes and turning them into a learning opportunity. Keep up the good work! Your sincerity is appreciated, even if it takes you longer to make your videos.

Thank you. I had no problem with your former video, but I admire your humility in this one. 🙃 Also, don't mind about the trolls- your work is impressive. I'm a researcher and never thought I'd see references in a KZread video - you proved me wrong with your comprehensive video script and citations! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Daniel.

Thanks for the deeper dive in this topic. I believe that many, not understanding fully the tech thought this would be a good answer for powering a car/light truck. You didn't specifically point this out, but did explain with the numbers. This system might be a good fit for a fixed or large vehicle. But one issue not mentioned in its use for powering vehicles is one of transportation to fuel centers, where the transportation and storage costs would add to the overall lessening of efficiency.

Matt, you are so good at bringing us new technologies. Can you please do a video explaining how the earth is flat so we can finally put that to rest?

I learn a lot from you, not just the content of your videos but how to interact with a largely anonymous populous. Your grace and measured interactions are inspiring.

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Sean.

@thegreataynrand7210

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps get out more ?

@joythought

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreataynrand7210 unhelpful

@thegreataynrand7210

Жыл бұрын

@@joythought Why not? Too many people have no lives

@HiHowdyDoody

Жыл бұрын

@@joythought Don't feed the troll

Another popular hydrogen storage method is conversion to ammonia. The technology to do this, and reverse it, makes energy transport via ammonia quite viable, as well as purely for energy storage.

@2012listo

Жыл бұрын

Here here! This, and liquefied air, should be our sustainable future.

@chrisheath2637

Жыл бұрын

A possible downside with ammonia, is its toxicity. Leakages could be problematic...

@daleatkin8927

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisheath2637 true, but so is leakage of gasoline, or for that matter heavy metals, we are just more comfortable with “familiar” dangers…

@unclejim1528

Жыл бұрын

@@daleatkin8927 Not the best comparison, gasoline will stay in a bucket. Ammonia is more like propane (uses same storage tanks) it wants so get out (up to 140 psi? in the sun, though ammonia hydrogen combo might change this). And the way I see it ammonia is more dangerous because large leak or confined leak WILL have arial effect, while propane MIGHT (depends if it finds ignition source). Both can kill, painfully. Ammonia is dangerous, and everyone that can stay away from it does.

@MitchFlint

Жыл бұрын

Noooo! Bad idea.

Far more than I ever knew plus I appreciate your style. Thank you.

Good work to follow up on past, discussed topics. Let's keep the discussion going!

I am learning English and your videos help me. Unlike boring lessons and lectures, I can watch your videos for long hours.

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

THIS, is why I follow you. You are willing to re-do subjects, when things havn't been covered to your consistent high standards. Love it, and kudo's to you.

@OrneryA

Жыл бұрын

8 hank6

@clown134

Жыл бұрын

it's also important to add an extra layer of criticism to this company who is using the guys of proprietary research to shield their product from scrutiny, and an extra layer of criticism to literally any company that stands to profit from investors, like Tesla for example who releases CGI as proof of their products in order to get people to invest

@dann5480

Жыл бұрын

THIS is why you are an ideout.

@jeanvictory1897

Жыл бұрын

Yes agree. Kudos to you for taking the time to add to your information and making it clearer!

@GuusJanssen

Жыл бұрын

It still completely bogus, but whatever, he corrected around like 20% of his mistakes in the video.

Thanks for the effort. This second video is definitely better than the first. I appreciate your videos.

Saw this when we got in last night and I have to wonder whether Dave Borlace is gonna send a "friend" to mess with your kneecaps for horning in on his Sunday release turf. I like that you took us on a deep dive when you felt like you needed to improve on a previous release and not seem too dependent on one startup's marketing. Bravo!

As an investor of multiple decades, I have been interested in Hydrogen for almost 50 years. I always appears to be just around the corner, but the corner never is turned. Holy grail of renewable energy, or fool's gold? My head says that at some point a true breakthrough will occur, and be it hydrogen, or some form of fusion, or something out of left field. Just hopefully some energy platform that has little or no impact on the earth, and its animals, air quality, and other impacts. The earth takes care of us, but we do not take care of this earth, that must change. An excellent follow up and no reason to apologize. The field is changing rapidly, so picking the new ideas out of all of them out there is not easy, especially in a changing environment.

@thegreataynrand7210

Жыл бұрын

If you are that old you should have realized how much environmental progress and improvements have been made over the years.

@christopherbarrett9749

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreataynrand7210 I do! However, as always, we could be better guardians of the earth. Native American had a different view, the view was the earth could not be owned, we are supposed to persevere the earth for the next generation... Conceptions of the way we interact with the earth, could be improved, but hard to change...

@thegreataynrand7210

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherbarrett9749 The truth is the environment is getting better constantly and we find better ways of doing things.

@PseudoFiction

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherbarrett9749 - Both you and Matt have the correct attitude about how we as a species need to change how live to make a sustainable planet, but you're first comment about being an investor undercuts that attitude a little. However beneficial new technologies can be to the planet will always be secondary under the capitalist framework to making money. Matt always has a cost analysis about what the video topic is so he's keen to this as well. All it all, it isn't the science that is holding us back. Also don't take that other guy serious, they put Ayn Rand in their screen name, you can you tell they are full of shit.

@KafshakTashtak

Жыл бұрын

What parameter (cost, techincal issues, etc.) do you think will cause that breakthrough? I mean what do you think we should focus on while developing these systems? I have done PhD research on this topic, and am interested in developing such systems. but never had the chance to get funding for a startup.

I'm looking forward to Thunderf00t's video on this.

@dnomyarnostaw

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. Matt should have watched that in the first place.

@ZE0XE0

Жыл бұрын

it just came out a few days ago.

@dnomyarnostaw

Жыл бұрын

@@satunnainenkatselija4478 I understand your concerns, but the storage medium is already in operation. Lookup "Ammonia to Hydrogen Metal Membrane Separation Technology" , they are already building the plant to make green Ammonia for transport of Hydrogen.

@dnomyarnostaw

Жыл бұрын

@@ZE0XE0 I notice he just did another one on one of Matts bloopers. "Matt Ferrell says stupid things about Magnesium" I unsubscribed from Matt, he is just getting too unreliable and ill informed.

@ZE0XE0

Жыл бұрын

@@dnomyarnostaw he mentions the bloopers early on, but goes into more scientific detail later in his video.

Nice follow up Matt, which clarifies a few points, but I do have a couple of lingering concerns. You said, "When the hydrogen leaving those chimneys hits oxygen and combines with it, you get water vapour and those white plumes that you typically see coming out of them." Hydrogen doesn't spontaneously combine with oxygen to form water vapour. It requires the application of intense heat which then starts a self sustaining massively exothermic reaction, ie. it combusts. This is the exact process by which we extract energy from the hydrogen. If the gases in the chimney are hot enough to initiate combustion of the hydrogen (around 650°C I believe) when it hits air, then cooling it to the point it doesn't damage the hydrogen recovery apparatus is going to present its own set of challenges, and may negate the benefit of the hydrogen being available there in the first place. Secondly, I tried unsuccessfully to find more information about the energy requirement of dispensing liquid hydrogen. Where did you find the figure of 10MWh per ton (the link in your citations is dead)? I may be over simplifying, but simply allowing liquid hydrogen to absorb ambient heat at ambient pressure will convert it back to a usable gas with no requirement for an external energy source. Further the cooling effect could be used to advantage for other industrial processes. What am I missing here?

Your response to aggressive discourse is why I watch your channel. Bravo.

A great mark of a man is his desire to learn and honesty to admit when he is wrong. Thank you for a great video

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@xtronkillmaster2517

Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF Can you do a video on flow batteries?

This channel gives me hope for the future, makes feel... UNDECIDED about where we're going.

@manu.yt25

Жыл бұрын

Forward leaning tech is cool but beware of scams, too many shady startups are making crazy promises that often don't even respect physics laws... and just scam investors. KZreadrs should always keep a very critical and skeptical mind when speaking about such things or otherwise they are just part of the scam.

I don't get why some people hate on things just because they don't fit into their views... Many things have diverse applications that we (as individuals) haven't the slightest idea they exist, simply because we aren't exposed to them and/or because we haven't given it a deeper analysis. One tech might not work for one situation but, it could work for another. We shouldn't have tunnel vision towards finding that magic-bean-single-solution-for-everthing. Thanks for your videos.

Thanks Matt great info once more, personally the balance with 'dumb down' & 'science' for me is spot on the mark.

Matt, hitting it out of the park with this redress. Will H2 technology be useful? YES. Just like the myriad of different chemical storage types. You highlighted temporal efficiency as well as process efficiency. To rapidly and drastically increase the amount of energy storage we have for renewables, and make them truly useful, we’ll need EVERY solution we can cost effectively implement. And as ongoing research improves technologies, we’ll replace the less effective and efficient ones with better tools. Thank you for bringing the broad range of technology to be seen here in your channel!!!!

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle

Жыл бұрын

There is literally no cost effective implementation of this. This 30 year old technology has never gained mainstream success for a reason. Because its inefficient and a scam in any application like this.

Keep CRUSHING Matt and the TEAM at Undecided ! MUCH LOVE FROM NORTH OF THE WALL!

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Dave! Me and the rest of team undecided appreciate it.

This video is put together so much better than the last video. I know that much of what is needed for publication on youtube is playing to the lowest common denominator, and thats really hard in short form media if you have to explain things and cite sources.

Excellent video as usual. Looking forward to the next one.

Getting very close to that million mate !! Keep going

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I still find that crazy.

@maxthelionxmax9220

Жыл бұрын

You deserve it mate . I watch all your videos and my niece is now also watching . It’s good to get kids listening to the right stuff and not rubbish TikTok videos I said It last year but honestly Fbr robotics is going global soon. The robots will be building houses down the road very very soon!

Matt, there is something fundamentally suspicious about the whole process. It talks about "pushing" Hydrogen atoms into metal's chrystalline structure creating hydrides. That implied absorbsion, like water gets absobed into a sponge. But a sponge filled with water remains a sponge with water filling up the gaps. Hydrides however, are a totally different beast. Hydrides are not metal anymore with chrystalline gaps filled with Hydrogen, they are chemical compounds of metal and Hydrogen, a result of a chemical reaction. Saying that that Hydrogen is pushed into metal structure making hydrides is the same as saying Chlorine is pushed into chystalline structure of Sodium creating table salt! Salt is not Sodium anymore, just like hydrides are not metals anymore. So, to release Hydrogen from hydrides you need to overcome not crystal bonds, but chemical ones. You are aware of the amount of energy needed to release Chlorine from salt, don't you? Unless a chemical compound is unstable (eg explosive or combustible) the bonds are strong so not sure where such low energy requirement calculations come for. Could you please clarify if you can.

@olegglushko8124

Жыл бұрын

Are you unironically expecting him to answer? haha

@blg53

Жыл бұрын

@@olegglushko8124 I know, just kidding. The whole project looks like a scam begging for funding from the gullibles..

@Kujo174

Жыл бұрын

He clearly isn't aware of anything you said. They don't have any scientific understanding of the matter, which should be fairly obvious from their videos. They just repeat snake oil claims from those companies.

@dantealexander9863

Жыл бұрын

@@Kujo174 what do you mean?

@lafamillecarrington

Жыл бұрын

The difference is the reversibility of the process - metal hydrides are relatively easily converted back to metal and hydrogen. Salt - not so much! Overall, the process is between water in a sponge and sodium and chlorine reacting. Crystalline.

If anything its really good to see so many different approaches to the energy problems.

At 8-9 minutes into this video, you show for 3 seconds a 9 MW hour hydrogen storage tank that will be connected to a 1 MW hydrogen power system, that can allow emission free power to the grid during peak power needs! That is fantastic, and worthy of it's own video.

Why can't we challenge a person who consistently puts out unscientific claims he repeats from not so credible or reliable sources?

@stephencrowther524

Жыл бұрын

You can,put out videos of your own,or be specific in your critiques.

@Kwolfx

9 ай бұрын

@@stephencrowther524 - Well, for one metal hydrides are not referred to as solid state batteries, because they are not that. They have the potential to be used in a solid state battery, but by themselves they are not batteries. You have to have electrodes attached first and a specific place to attach them. That's kind of a basic error and it's made in the first 30 seconds of the video. Using fuel cells in a submarine works, the idea it could be used in any kind of aircraft is insane. The weight makes it impossible. Matt compares, the energy storage of GKM pellets to the energy stored in the lithium ion battery in a Tesla 3. OK fine, but you can't actually use it in a car or vertical take off aircraft. You have to heat up the pellets but you don't have to heat up a lithium ion battery. You just hook it up to an electric motor and it works. Heating up the GKM pellets takes space and the weight of the equipment that does the heating. Then there's the fuel cell and it's weight. Then there's the engine that actually burns the hydrogen. Not only do you have to take it's weight into account, there will be heat energy lost in that process, a lot of it. Plus, I forgot the energy needed just to get the hydrogen in the first place, seeing as there aren't any natural pools of hydrogen we can draw on. At least Matt mentions the efficiency; make that lack of efficiency, of hydrogen as a fuel. This isn't about science, but Matt makes a big deal about the company getting a relatively small government grant to study the feasibility of it's hydrogen storage idea, but a study isn't proof by itself. It's just a study. Wouldn't you want to know how that study turns out before you start declaring victory in the energy wars? Here's a link to a video that gives you an honest explanation of the potential and very real difficulties of using hydrogen to replace fossil fuels. It's somewhat depressing, but there's no BS in it, unlike some videos I can think of. kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJ-g0ZaTYbbXm6g.html&ab_channel=SabineHossenfelder

Thanks much for the in-depth work to reply to questions and further our/your understanding of a complex, promising tech. Really appreciate what you do.

Thanks for the follow up Matt. Yes as someone who lives off grid with solar and batteries in Canada, Hydrogen storage has always intrigued me. How to store all that sun from those long summer days for winter? Metal hydrides sound interesting for vehicles but I would guess that they are cost prohibitive for stationary applications, although great if you need to save space. A tank full of metal sounds like it would be quite expensive to expand, much more than an empty compressed air tank. From my research I am thinking that ammonia or methanol have more potential with large gas bladders under the lake or ocean getting a nod of approval as well

the problem is that KZread is overran by non-experts with some video editing skills, shoveling out misinformed content further stupefying the audiences. you are part of the problem

@LedSeng

4 ай бұрын

non-experts that pretend to be experts by dazzling their audiences with video editing and confident reading from the script, while not really knowing or actually understanding what they are reading out.

There might be an economical turmoil but there is no doubt that this is still the best time to invest.

@wilsonjudson1650

Жыл бұрын

Best time to invest? thats funny though because in the last four months I have lost more than $47,900 in stock market which is the biggest I have loss since I ventured into stock investment.

@jamesmaduabuchi6100

Жыл бұрын

you could be right or wrong . i once had similar problem but now its a different ball game for me because I was lucky to have met TERESA JENSEN WHITE, a financial manager and stock expert, I have made more than $165,000 in 6 weeks under her supervisions

@dorissteve912

Жыл бұрын

Really? people are cashing in from the stock market and frankly speaking its comforting seeing someone admit to the fact that they actually seek help from professionals. please how can i reach TERESA ?

@jamesmaduabuchi6100

Жыл бұрын

search her name on the internet to reach her

@dorissteve912

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the info . Found her website and it impressive

Excellent clarification, Matt! Thanks.

Thank you for the information and the effort made to make this video ❤

Worth considering: The most dense form of hydrogen storage is by connecting hydrogen atoms to carbon atoms. This is done by a process called photosynthesis.

@MrTomyCJ

Жыл бұрын

And to release that energy you just need to burn it! aka fossil fuels.

@andrew13651

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTomyCJ Agree, but I think by now we all know the reason for exploring other areas. For instance why not look into converting coal into hydrogen for the energy and carbon for the soil to regrow new plant matter and eventually create a system to essentially just increase the cyclic rate of fossilization to fit humans insatiable appetite for [things on a silver platter]. Fossil fuels do work, errryday! All it is is reworking the formula to emit a ['less controversial' matrix of stuff]. Say you dont believe in climate change or global warming or whatever ppl call it now. Thats fine, but you have to see the economic opportunity that is afforded from the enormous amount of people who do believe CO2 acts as a thermal blanket and is an 'bad' thing (like we know; earth survived much higher levels of CO2 before, and who's to say humans couldn't too? Mars is on the table but creating our own oxygen on earth isn't?) Its all BS to attempt to make more money for more people. That is the eternal dilemma of economics there are the haves and the have nots, and pretty regularly the have nots are far more numerous - then all of them have an avg of more than 1.1 children so theres more people chasing the same stuff and blah blah blah it all comes down to timing. But getting so caught up in whether CO2 will cause North America to sink, or on the other hand not caring and simply recognizing the burn rate of fossil fuel reserves is faster then they are replenished and that is an obvious issue - both present a problem that requires solving. So my approach is lets solve something and stop wasting time regurgitating the same complaints Ive been hearing since grade 10. Sorry TomyCJ you are not even close to the worst offender. I actually like and support burning fossil fuels to keep the world running as it currently does. Most greenies dont understand why solar and wind will never be enough to sustain 'the world' any better than burning fossil fuels while also retaining our general way of living (aka being able to get this message to people Ive never met via the internet lol)

@andrew13651

Жыл бұрын

Pithy, I like - problem is human population rise vs photosynthetic rate.

@laus9953

Жыл бұрын

@@MrTomyCJ when burning hydrogen, there is ZERO co2 produced

@peterkorek-mv6rs

8 ай бұрын

Right. If You have a standard of life of an Australian Aborigeny or Bhutan Citizen it will be enough. If You are a US or Western European Citizen You need additional energy. If it is a Fossil fuel You usually take it from places like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran or Russia. The consequences You can see in the Evening News today.

Just want to say that I appreciate your videos. As with everything online, trying to get all your information from one spot doesn't work. Starting conversations, adding content and adding context to topics that have so much societal-anathematic nuance is needed, and you certainly contribute more than your fair share. Solutions to the worlds problems aren't simple, nor are they one size fits all, nor are they all or nothing. Thank you for all your efforts, and for continuing to do what you can to help the conversations.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle

Жыл бұрын

Marc, What scent of Snake Oil did you order from matt? Jokes aside, Please consider doing some research. This guy is not on your side, Heres proof kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYV4utOIlqacYbg.html

Loved the content, this is indeed the future. We got to identify all the puzzle pieces and then put them In order.

I appreciate the perspective you offer. many info sources lean an spin. The information is a stand alone and Thank You for the brain food.

Much respect for admitting imperfection and correcting it so precisely and thoroughly here.

I've seen metal hydrides for hydrogen storage to feed fuel cells in action first hand a decade ago. The cylinders they were stored in used ambient heat to charge and discharge over hours, they merely got hot when charged and cold when discharged. Was impressed. Sure, if you operate at high rates, you need active cooling or heating to achieve the high rates or it becomes self limiting, but it depends entirely on your power needs, you might not need them is you are content to work at lower rates.

This is very interesting concept for storing vast amounts of entergy underground. Especially in a Thermal Solar Field that is already operating at high temperatures. Great Video.

Really - REALLY - interesting. Ty so much... In the end, the comments made you bringing up many facets of the topic. A lot of work we can figure 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Son, wheeres my glasses, I can't see the physics from here!!

Matt, you do a great job of making the complicated simple. I always enjoy your videos and learn something in the process. Keep up the great work my friend… 😀

@renereichert7410

Жыл бұрын

Might not be so simple: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYV4utOIlqacYbg.html

There was a proof of concept done on an off-grid house in Austria a couple years ago, capable of storing enough hydrogen from excess solar collection in Summer to cover energy requirements in winter. There are a number of solutions on the market targeting homeowners looking to achieve self-sufficiency (autarkie) in a similar way, but all store the hydrogen as pressurised gas which puts everyone off. When they crack this on a scale that will allow metal hydrides to be used as a battery to store hydrogen in a residential home until winter to keep the heat pump running with less solar power available, then I see a pretty large potential market for their implementation. In cars not so much, but I remain optimistic...

This was a great video If you ever are running low on ideas for videos I am more than willing to watch old topics revised and improved like this one

One of my favorite things about your channel are videos like this. Deeper dives, updates on topics as new information is available, and corrections are what make you stand above the norm. I can't wait to see the first house videos, when is the first one planned?

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Still TBD when the home series will kick off, but most likely late summer early fall. August/September timeframe for the first videos hopefully.

@Nightowl5454

Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF I can see why you put up that thing about not allowing spam in the comments, I've been seeing that on several people's channels. It's really Annoying to get spam.😑

@sssbob

Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF The world is too far down the electric vehicle path for hydrogen to compete.

@glenfry5871

Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF what info did you use to verify the claim that hydrogen can be collected from waste management exhaust. Ive seen data that shows that there is 0 molecular hydrogen in the exhaust.

@dragan4453

Жыл бұрын

@@UndecidedMF You should address this kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYV4utOIlqacYbg.html

Huge respect for giving this another go with more context. I didn't have any problems, but I saw that some other people did. This is a great jumping off point if I wanted to learn more.

That's one thing this channel excels at; The next great savior technology that never materializes. This channel is more about click-bait than anything else.

FANTASTIC....! I have no need to watch the "first" video, since this was so informtional.... Immediate subscription

Thank you very much for the repeat/re-evaluated video. I found the first half (about the science) to be very well done. And doubly kudos for looking back and reviewing your own performance -- that's the mark of someone who is truly trying to do a first-rate job! (I'd welcome more videos where you go back after a time and examine progress in technologies you have reported on previously.) Unfortunately, listening to your presentation about Plasma Kinetics in the second half, all I hear is red flags (a mixed metaphor!). They are saying "We've got great stuff, but we can't tell you anything because it's all proprietary! Trust us." While this occasionally turns out to be true, 98% of the time it turns out that the company was actually desperately searching for funding to build something they *believed in*, but didn't actually have working...and which never works. (And too often it's an actual fraud.) I think you'd do a lot better avoiding such a heavy focus on things you can't verify for yourself. In this case, it appears you are still too trusting of the Great and Powerful Oz.

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback. I’m in a trust but verify mode of thinking with Plasma Kinetics. They’re working on pilot studies, so we’ll know for sure if this was smoke and mirrors. I’m definitely keeping tabs on this.

@chrisheath2637

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@@UndecidedMF (Sometimes , people working on an innovative product, find it hard to see the wood for the trees, and it can seem (to them) that there is a rosy outlook for future success, whereas they are actually heading for a dead-end. Equally, of course, people may be overly pessimistic, with setback after setback, and yet be on the verge of a massive breakthrough !. It is, naturally, massively difficult to know the future...)

@RandyTWester

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@@chrisheath2637 Some things about the future are fairly predictable, for example solar panels are now relatively cheap and can be manufactured at a large scale, northern economies need energy in the winter but can produce more, in summer, and small electrolyzer + big storage fits that seasonal storage use case better than batteries. It doesn't mean they won't also use batteries, because solar doesn't work in the dark and never will, but they will never use batteries that charge in June and discharge in December. Except flow batteries, maybe.

This is what Matt Ferrell such a class act. Great video!

@JohnSmith-kf1fc

Жыл бұрын

Hey Ricky!

@blackbelt2000

Жыл бұрын

This is *WHY matt ferrell *IS such a class act

@paulturner5769

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@@blackbelt2000 This is what *MAKES Matt Ferrell such a class act. ;-)

@blackbelt2000

Жыл бұрын

@@paulturner5769 hahaha tou·ché, tou·ché

Thank you for making a second video to clarify you da best.

Interesting and nuanced. Really good video.

8:48 The part I was missing is where an electrolyzer is used to "recharge" the hydride It goes from H2 to water with the fuel cell and back to H2 again using the electrolyzer.

Your videos keep getting better Matt.

@UndecidedMF

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that. Thanks for watching.

Thank you for your time and hard work. I believe there is a place for all renewable energy sources. With ever evolving breakthroughs in technology there is no renewable energy source that can be ruled out, fusion for example. Wishing you Happy Holidays and good health in 2023.

Thank you. You explain this beautifully.

Thanks for this video. Always interresting to see “eventual” competing technologies.

@TechnoGlobalist

Жыл бұрын

Not according to musk:"hydrogen is dead and stupid"

@lawrencefox563

Жыл бұрын

Of course test it but it's used in submarines isn't it proven just find most suitable applications.

One issues with a video like this, and a channel like this in general, is the reliance on manufacturer/corporate provided info - I remember one other company doing storage like this that thankfully I never purchased anything from, because their specified performance was so grossly incorrect it was definitely false advertising. There's a lot of random youtube tech channels doing reviews on "future tech" that never comes about, and a good percentage of the time it's not because they just need more time it's because the origin of the information was grossly untrustworthy and the goals set by the management are not realistic, generally to the major frustration of their engineering team. I'd love it if these companies performed as well as they said they could, but it's definitely a "believe it when it happens" situation.

You guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing!

One of Your better presentations! Compliments!

Great work man. I can imagine this work isn't easy. Keep it up! You are a valuable resource to lots of people

@AquaCoalaNest

Жыл бұрын

Reading a white paper, and accepting all that is promised = hard work in the USA (probably).

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle

Жыл бұрын

What scent of Snake Oil did you buy?

@drhubs7049

Жыл бұрын

@@youtube.really.stole.my.handle I like his content. Gets you thinking and helps you keep up with tech

@drhubs7049

Жыл бұрын

@@AquaCoalaNest perhaps. I personally like staying up to date on technology and see the possibilities. You don't change the world staying in a box

Thank you for the update! It's okay to make mistakes that we learn from. We appreciate your team's effort to get everything covered as best as possible. I look forward to your next video whatever it may be. I believe hydrogen would be a great to master given its abundance in the ocean. Perhaps somthing will be discovered that will revolutionize this industry if the technology finds a way to greater efficiency.

@gregbailey45

Жыл бұрын

Hydrogen is not a 'fuel source', it's a method of energy storage. It's presence in flue gases does not make it as 'abundant' as you make out either, more that it shows a failing in the energy efficiency of the processes involved.

A temporary stationary storage was used for the gas grid in a nearby town to provide gas for the stoves and such in private homes. The storage was very simple - using half a tank with an open bottom floating in a fluid inside another larger tank with open top. The gas inside the tank kept the top half afloat and the weight of the top half kept the gas under a steady pressure. Adding gas will lift the top, consuming gas will lower it. As the pressure is very low the size of tanks need to be very very big. But much less energy is used to fill the tank. About same idea can be used with a sealed bag with a small weight on top, almost like a bagpipe.

I know very little about solid hydrogen except to hear that other hydrogen producing methods are costly. I know in the past 6 months various uploaders have claimed this is the new battery break through for the EV auto industry be it graphene or sodium lithium or solid state a combination of both. Thanks for the updated clarifications in this video, Matt. Good, useful knowledge is so important in my books !

Maybe it would be worth while to have you and TF talk this one out? I'd watch that video. I felt like this screamed scam tech the first time around. You may have had the wool pulled over your eyes mate.

Hi Matt, graphitic Carbon-Nitride works much the same way holding Hydrogen up to 10% of the gCN total mass. Made of urea and sugar. Releases hydrogen at 300°C. The difference here is solar exposure is all that is needed to separate hydrogen from water.

@luislongoria6621

Жыл бұрын

Careful, there might be a shortage of "pink salt" for Big Macs!

Thanks for the deeper dive.

Thanks for followup, Matt.

What I'm always missing from these kind of videos is a promise vs reality comparison for similar technologies, e.g. in this case lithium-ion batteries. Or how many claims and expectations for the project had to be toned down already from previous claims. For example in that last part of the video there was already a mention of gas tanks, even though one of the claimed advantages of the technology is that there's no need for them. This and the previous video felt more like "Hyped up with Matt Ferrell" rather than undecided.

Wow .. 14 days underwater. Amazing! Nuclear subs can't even begin to compare to that, with their 3-4 months.

@jackholman5008

Жыл бұрын

6 months in war

@davidbowerman6433

Жыл бұрын

But a battery (as was the point) can’t compete. This is also one of the quietest sub ever built. Battery boats are by far deadlier. And why DARPA is helping the navy research it.

@rutessian

Жыл бұрын

@@planexshifter Nope, but if they want to use it as a battery, I doubt they'll put it in contact with water, they might just keep it inside the submarine where, usually, there isn't any water.

@michaeltempsch5282

Жыл бұрын

And if you don't want to go nuclear, but still want weeks of submerged ops, there's the Air Independent (liquid oxygen and diesel) Stirling motor subs from for instance Sweden. Silent enough to first get in and "kill" a US aircraft carrier and then evade the escorts...

Marvelously informative as ever.

Thanks for your work on this. interesting developments

Great job, Matt, addressing the questions. I really admire your dedication to getting the story straight. It is a high virtue. On to the the subject-at-hand, I have concluded that the most befitting applications of metal hydrates ("solid hydrogen") is in ships and airplanes. The weight consideration leans more to ships (including submarines!) but I think we all know that batteries are not going to cut it for commercial aviation because of a multitude of issues. I am a subscriber to your channel and have not been disappointed. You are providing a good voice for explaining some seriously complicated topics. One direction you might want to go deeper into is how we might affect the lowest economic echelons of society with technology, compassion and respect. Finally, it would wild too if you and Dave Borland of "Just have a Think" could do a collaboration. You both are, IMHO, at the top of the game when it comes to communicating about sustainable living!

@kimwarburton8490

Жыл бұрын

totally agree! they are my top two as well :D though 2bit da vincii runs a close third Edit; do you know of any other reputable channels that run to a similar degree of good quality?

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

It would be a great answer for ocean shipping in combination with a battery backup, it will take many different solutions like this one to get rid of the majority of fossil fuels for our industry and heavy transportation.

@Baronstone

Жыл бұрын

Not a great job, watch Phil destroy Matt and explain exactly why Matt is a fool! kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYV4utOIlqacYbg.html

I sincerely hope everyone will be as respectful as possible when commenting. Matt is going out of his way to share and inform at no cost to us. I like learning about all of these energy technologies, even the ones that will never fit in my laptop. At the very least this one seems like it would work well for capturing wasted industrial Hydrogen and maybe work well as an ad on to renewables for capturing "Extra" capacity for later release.

Nice Vidz, Keep it on! Cheers from Montreal, Canada

Hey Matt, take a look at Ambri. They have an all liquid battery for large scale operations. Solves a lot of the safety aspects, or so they claim. Would love your take on it.

The main problem with the last video was Plasma Kinetics. They (Plasma Kinetics) people really scream scam. Just because somebody looked at your stuff doesn't mean they like or agree with what you did. The USPTO is really crap and will let you patent anything, so later you can sue the people who really figured out how to do it.

@jonathanw11

Жыл бұрын

The main problem with the last video (and this one) is that it makes it clear Matt doesn't understand anything that he is trying to communicate. Channels like this benefit no one and really go to show why proper science communication is so difficult.

Since when do we have H2 in exhaust gases? We have H2O, NOT H2 in those streams.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR CREATIVITY…

Thanks for clearing that up.

Matt, you do such a fine job that I'm not only informed I really feel as though I've learned something. Thanks.

Interesting. But, how does this compare with ammonia for hydrogen storage and transportation?

another great production. thank you.

Hi, I'm new to this channel, and am pleased to have found it. I found the subject matter very interesting and well presented. I'd like to level one criticism re presentation. I'm a none expert. A lot of the content took me time to 'digest', i.e. understand. Matt, your pace of delivery is rapid, very rapid. Throw into the mix that you also have a North American accent (I'm from the UK) and a wearer of hearing aids and I was repeatedly stopping and replaying this to comprehend the content. The speed of delivery was tiring. I watch quite a few tech channels on KZread: Just Have a Think, Real Engineering, Greg's Planes and Automobiles, Curious Droid. Some fairly heavy weight subjects. But all of them have a slower pace of delivery that allows the synapses of my brain to connect and get an understanding, before cantering onto the next part of the concept. I'd add that the presenter of Real Engineering has an Irish accent, but he's still slow, and comprehensible. I hope you don't find the above upsetting. Your content is really interesting. I will be investigating further. Thanks.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle

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Please watch this video, the speaker has a much slower pace and im sure youll find this VERY interesting kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYV4utOIlqacYbg.html

Love this channel, every new video, I almost always think its the best one yet, but this one is undeniably so. Though I'm not finding much info on my particular interest, decentralized energy production and storage, like the idea of a thorium reactor in every home, and the engineering of homes that minimize dependence on enclosed spaces (obviously, such a thing is geographically dependent).

@kimwarburton8490

Жыл бұрын

if you havent already, take a gander at off-grid living solutions, but to be honest, most use geothermal, solar, wind and/or hydro combined with batteries and earthen heatsinks combined with air flow solutions and window angles for optimal conditions to reach passive house standards so as little energy is needed as possible I dont like the idea of thorium reactors in every home, because half the population is below average intelligence. As safe as thorium is, it is not idiot proof

@gregbailey45

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@@kimwarburton8490 agreed, good as I believe LFTR's are, they are more suited to municipal or district level use where expensive monitoring is more practical. I wish more people would consider their use.

@kimwarburton8490

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@@gregbailey45 would be good for hospitals and industry imo where theres already a pool of people with appropriate talents

@kimwarburton8490

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edit, and high energy demands

@gringo1723

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Beats the hell out of a SMALL THERMONUCLEAR DEVICE in every abode... 😎

Hydrogen binds too well. This means significant energy is required to "move" it from a free form to a storage from and back again. Thus the lower efficiency numbers quoted in the video when compared to batteries. It seems to me that it makes most sense when created with excess renewable energy and for "long" term storage (greater than 4 hours). Also, since significant heat appears to be part of the process, it is better suited to large industrial installations where the heat can be cost effectively stored/utilized rather than lost. So probably not passenger vehicles but more likely grid or industrial processes with large mobile applications falling into a special need category.

@jooptablet1727

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Exactly. Store excess solar energy in summer and release it when the sun doesn't shine in winter. Even though it's inefficient, it does work. Hydrogen for passenger vehicles is idiocy, though. Batteries are a far superior solution. I think people are starting to understand that now.

@infocat13

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co-locate this with molten salt storage for cogeneration

@soulsurvivor8293

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@@jooptablet1727 With the energy requirements to liberate Hydrogen stored in solids yes, Hydrogen stored in Ammonia not so much. Ammonia stored and transported in slightly modified existing petroleum infrastructure and converted to Hydrogen at the pump is far more viable. There are efficiency losses in production however they can be easily offset by excess power production from outside the production facilities dedicated power production. The idea is to utilise Hydrogen for vehicles that require longer ranges and as a stored emission free fuel, not for metropolitan markets. Failing to realise that we need to use different solutions for different applications and taking the drawbacks that come with the benefit for the desired application would be foolish.

@gringo1723

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Consider the efficiencies from the perspective of a PROCESS that shall definitely change (as Matt points out) over TIME!

@da4127

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@@soulsurvivor8293 exactly, this sounds really good for electric 18 wheelers, definitely not good for small vehicles, but maybe even buses can benefit from it

11:03 a very very different story than [i paraphrase] "so market disrupting it got banned by the government" ... no it was just the typically slow bureaucratic process of taking years to consider consequences and granting or refusing a patent .. btw. very good message here, humble and going trough it in detail, huge thumbs up

Thanks bunches, Matt. Very interesting.

For me, it’s all about discovering new approaches to old problems, particularly replacements for fossil fuels that objectively perform better with far fewer emissions. Is this the case with hydrides? Possibly. I think you made the case that it is plausible that hydrides will be an economical replacement for some use cases currently met by fossil fuels. Thanks for taking a closer look.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle

Жыл бұрын

This technology existed over 30 years ago.... Scientists would know this was a legit way of transferring and storing energy. But this is literally snake oil and Matt is a snake oil Salemen

Thank you Matt ! I appreciate your research on interesting topics, with hydrogens abundance to me its a solid argument for its future !

@HydrogenFuelTechnologies

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I can't 100% prove it but I am almost 100% certain this guy is a paid progandalist hired by the elite to be a pawn in this game thats been going on 100 years, I'm also certain he dropped this video after I dropped mine a couple days ago. I'm not as professional as this beta nerd but I'm smarter and I've been investigating the hydrogen tech and experimenting a lot longer to assure all his audience that he is lying and being very careful how he spins the hydrogen information he gives you. The tech is much more beyond anything he regurgitates out in a pretty video for you.

@colingenge9999

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Abundance does not mean it is easy to access.

@youtube.really.stole.my.handle

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kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYV4utOIlqacYbg.html

@andresmarrero8666

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@@colingenge9999 it is everywhere around us which makes it very easy for us to get our hands on it. Trying to ship it like gas is actually a limiting factor that has more to do with bureaucracy and legal issues rather than efficiency.

@colingenge9999

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@@andresmarrero8666 When hydrogen burns it turns into water as energy is given off. When you say Hydrogen is “everywhere around us” you must mean Hydrogen in the form of water. Yes, granted but that Hydrogen has essentially already reacted with Oxygen and its energy given off. To get the Hydrogen back requires a lot of energy but when we burn it again we only recover a small fraction of that energy. There is literally zero free Hydrogen on Earth that is not in a man made facility. Doesn’t exist unless you want to go to a Star like our Sun that has lots of Hydrogen but a bit tricky to get it to Earth. Shipping Hydrogen is extremely difficult. Could be low pressure gas pipeline but it cannot contact metal because it embrittles by working its way into the crystalline structure. Compressing to 10,000 psi and above is possible but the carbon fiber tanks are as heavy as the Hydrogen. Can liquify but has lowest bowling point of any gas so you’d a super cooling refrigeration system that is both costly to build, maintain and operate. Talking about efficiency, 100 kWh of energy converted to Hydrogen which is later used in a fuel cell for example will give back about 22 kWh in a very complex series of steps which is why Hydrogen only exists in some vehicles because governments have funded it while green hydrogen production and utilization has been nearly a complete failure.

I found this video absolutely excellent ! my favourite out of your channel so far :) looking forward to more !

I THINK THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS A GREAT POTENCIAL FOR IN THE NEAR FUTURE, AND WILL BECOME VERY APPEALING, AS TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. VERY INTERESTING AND GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

Very helpful, though I will probably need to watch again in case I missed something... I agree that poor Hydrogen round-trip efficiency is only important for certain use cases. For long-term storage of what would otherwise be "waste" or surplus electricity, it is not a barrier. This illustrates how stored Hydrogen has a good fit with renewable energy sources which produce electricity when they want to, rather than when we need it e.g. wind blowing at night across a wind farm.