I love it....this should be on TV instead of commercials

2024 and I find this video very relating. A true depiction of how societal exclusions are unnecessarily created due to lack of foresights. Then, the whole avoidable drama of fitting in ensues, creating several inconveniences and resource demands.

It is a very good example of how society may bring barriers to social activities. The interesting part is that it is up to the same society to remove those barriers!

The Adventures of the Disabled Village (A Different Perspective) - Vic Finkelstein 1975.

What a amezing illustration...love to see this animation and found very interesting!!

What a brilliant animation so true

This is fantastic. I wish there was a longer version that goes into more detail. 💖💖💖

@ajmetz82

5 жыл бұрын

There must be, it's obviously a clip lifted from something.

@cloverclothing7947

4 жыл бұрын

There is and I saw it once and am now looking for it. Anyone knows let me know

@raindotzler9637

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is based on a short story because I remember reading one with this exact premise in 10th grade that still lives in my head rent-free to this day. For the life of me, I can't remember the name or author though

This is so cool explained. My boyfriend is over 2 m tall, and he feels as well that the world could be built a little bit different, for all kinds of people....

BRILLIANT

Brilliant!

Love it

Major Payne is a good example of an ableist that rather be that without being labeled.

GREAT ONE!

A sweet video. I remember one of my professors showing this to us in class. Also, I love the two long rambly comments under here utter missing the point of the video to complain about "ideology", and respect to the people trying to argue with them though it's mostly for naught.

Brilliant

Any ideas why this film would not be playing?

That reminds me of one of those USA or UK for Africa charity events in reverse, it was Africa for Norway, in the video, you saw African people helping the people of Norway with heating systems, very good video.

@alanmorr3635

4 жыл бұрын

@J. D. A bit of tounge in cheek as they say

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Who made this? Very interested in learning more about the "story" behind this video.

@tortoise89

2 жыл бұрын

I believe this came from an idea by Vic Finkelstein, one of the founders of the Union of the Physically Impaired against Segregation (UPIAS). He was involved in the early days of what became Disability Studies.

What year was this film made?

I wish I could make this required viewing for anyone in political office. My local library put in a $25,000 wheelchair ramp, but did not make the entrance wheelchair accessible. My hospital has an entrance that I cannot navigate so have to call the hospital for someone to open the door for me. Walmart put barriers around things to prevent carts from scratching things - but the barriers prevent me from getting close enough in my chair to use the check-out, etc. Check-out aisles are too thin for me to go through them without knocking things off shelves.

SHEEEEESH

I'm looking for the whole film. Anyone know more about it or it's original name/source/director/author?

@weareallbornmad410

4 жыл бұрын

I'm looking for that too. Let me know if you find it, ok?

@_Jayce

4 жыл бұрын

@@weareallbornmad410 ​ I don't know about the film itself, but I do know it's based on the 1975 paper "To Deny or Not to Deny Disability - What is disability?" by Vic Finkelstein. Here's a link: www.independentliving.org/docs1/finkelstein.html

Oh wait hold on

The assumption seems to be invariably made, that if someone has a physical impairment or limitation, then by default that person must also have something of a barrier to what would otherwise pass for normal and acceptable interaction and acceptance in society, therefore to avoid embarrassment many people appear to choose not to notice and keep going? Educating and informing those who simply do not understand the true situation might seem to be the first step towards correcting this misunderstanding?

ha ha this is genius

I'm going to get in trouble for this but any comment on who built the town?

@Bindestrich

2 жыл бұрын

It is implied that the wheelchair users did

@spartangoku7610

21 күн бұрын

How did they build it though?

What a real head up the ass concept! The able bodied in this scenario could just get a wheelchair themselves anyway, because people without disabilities have more options. I’m autistic and I want a cure for it, not acceptance. Acceptance won’t make the world a quieter place.

wär vo de ph isch do?

I've been looking around for an accurate portrayal of the social model of disability for a while, so I'm quite glad I found this. Unfortunately, it's led me to be even less convinced by it. What it seems to be is the refusal to permit the word "normalcy" to enter one's mind about anything at all cost. I believe this is a mistake. I view normalcy as the state and condition of the many. It is also an element of normalcy that not everybody is born to comply with it at all times. This has to be counterbalanced by the many so that the few get to be integrated and face as few disadvantages as possible. I'm sympathetic to some claims of the social model, and I certainly agree with reducing barriers, however, this video is somewhat contradictory in its choice of words and also defeats the entire point of the analogy as I shall explain: the terms "disabled" or "physically impaired" or whatever euphemism you choose to employ imply a lack of ability of things which are humanly possible. I cannot fly, but this doesn't cause me to be disabled because no human can do this (without artificial help). Therefore, these terms necessitate a deviation from that which is "normal" or else the sheer existance of these terms doesn't make sense. Finally, the video is a bit morbidly ridiculous with regard to the main point that it seeks to make: what if there were a town of only wheelchair users? Well, I'm pretty sure there would be no construction of any houses, ceilings or doors at any height, no cars (unless designed, produced, and imported by the able-bodied outside world), no emergency services and, before too long, everyone would be dead. No ideology will ever be apt to defeat a reality like the fact that disabled people require the assistance of able-bodied people but not vice versa. We have to deal with it without surrendering this reality and thereby being ridiculous.

@josephwritessongs

4 жыл бұрын

Do you feel better getting that off your chest? I sure hope so, now go change yourself for the better please

@josephwritessongs

3 жыл бұрын

@T. K. point me to the well thought out argumentation and I'll reconsider

@josephwritessongs

3 жыл бұрын

@T. K. ha ha come come your comment was totally passagg - I was just retuning the favour

@josephwritessongs

3 жыл бұрын

@T. K. toodles

@annellewellyn7118

3 жыл бұрын

you do make a decent argument, and though I believe differently I am absolutely horrendous at organizing my thoughts, but I shall ATTEMPT it. firstly I should discuss the other models of disability, which lay as such: "The medical model sees disability as something that is ‘wrong’ with a person’s body or mind. For example this model might suggest that a disabled person is ‘suffering’ from an illness, disease, genetic defect or injury that would ideally be “treated and cured.” This way of thinking often makes people want to help by fixing the problem, maybe using drugs, surgery or other interventions. This way of thinking may also make people want to help by preventing transmission of the problem to other generations maybe by promoting interventions such as sterilization or contraception. The medical model is said to make the following assumptions:  The young person (their body or mind) is the problem  The problem may make difficult for it young person to make good decisions about their own life  They are likely to need professionals to look after them  If the problem cannot be fixed, they will never be equal to other young people" I shall conclude this in another part, as I am near my character limit

Uhmm ok

Not a bad film. Unfortunately, rather than use the appropriate term "non disabled", the film uses the inappropriate term "able bodied", thus undermining the Social Model of Disability.

@amandakeeling3329

8 жыл бұрын

+janaltus I think it is, unfortunately, just a product of it's time, and using outdated language.

@roseability86

8 жыл бұрын

The double negative in non-disabled (non and dis) turns that into a positive and equates to same thing. Maybe non-wheelchair users would be better.

@GPSpink

8 жыл бұрын

It's a very old film. Cut people some slack for goddess sake‼️

@JT-qn5qv

8 жыл бұрын

By "cut people some slack" do you mean any comments that are not glowing with praise should be omitted? (Id already said it was not a bad film. What do you want; an Oscar?) As for your comment "It's a very old film" ... we established that the term "able-bodied" was inappropriate back in the mid-1970s. When was this film made?

@copingthroughfaith

5 жыл бұрын

True..well spotted

Society can accommodate disabled people without lying to itself that there is nothing wrong with disability.

who is normal? who don’t have disabilities?

Apparently, the aim of the video wasn't to expose the utter philosophical failure of the social model. Oh the irony... Here are the two most blatant leaps of logic: 1. able-bodied people can also sit in wheelchairs, you know. Problem solved! 2. disabled people (in this case paraplegics) cannot live fully independently let alone form a functioning society without able-bodied help. Who builds the houses? Who maintains the sewage? Who stocks the shelves in the grocery store? Therefore, the video proves the point it's trying to contradict: Disabled people are indeed less able than able-bodied people. Disabled people sometimes require the assistance of able-bodied people to do basic chores. Able-bodied people, on the other hand, never require any assistance from disabled people to do those chores. We must continue to strive to reduce further the areas in life in which disabled people need help, so they can live as independently as possible. This can be true while it is also true that disabled people are less able than able-bodied people. The aim of the social model is clearly to explain away real-life differences to fit some people's ideology through leaps of logic that others are supposed to ignore and applaud, despite knowing that this emperor is utterly naked. Oh and before you jump to my throat shouting "able-ist!" be aware that doing so is akin to religious condemnation. You have bought into the social model religiously and are, in essence, calling me a heretic. Attack my arguments if anything.

@wormworm580

Жыл бұрын

1. yes they can, but it would be a change to their lifestyle that causes more problems than it solves. Where are they getting the wheelchairs from? Are they really going to learn to use a wheelchair just for a temporary period of time when their legs are right there and work fine? Using a manual wheelchair out of the blue for long distances puts ridiculous strain on the arms. What happens when they go back home and have atrophied muscles from lack of use? now they're going to have to re-adjust to their previous way of life. Alternatively, buildings used by the standing up people could just have their doorways modified, which in my opinion is a much simpler and fairer solution for everyone involved. 2. What are you talking about? Imagine the baseline for able-bodied was a pair of gills--if human society was aquatic and all our technology was based around building underwater infrastructure, and then suddenly a small group of humans without gills emerged. Do you really think those humans (physically indistinguishable from able bodied people in our reality) would be incapable of developing their own society catering to their needs? Of course not, we don't have gills either and can build a house just fine. Disability is all about social perspective--I can't breathe underwater or fly, so it's a good thing I don't live in a society where I need to fly to get inside a house, or I need to breathe underwater to get groceries. Same applies for wheelchair users. Your mistake is that you're assuming the disabled society will only be using techniques and technologies developed for an able-bodied society, when in the video it is clearly stated that their whole society is built by and for the disabled. If you truly think that being functionally legless makes it impossible to build a house then sorry, but I think you are at least a bit delusional.

@datteldiskussion4992

Жыл бұрын

@@wormworm580 I'd love to see the report on a house having been built by wheelchair-bound people. Until then, I'll remain skeptical and assume that you're the deluded one (for a lack of proof provided). There is no reason why having gills should ever be used as the baseline for abled-bodiedness, so your argument falls apart right there. No universe can be imagined where the baseline for abled-bodiedness is something that next to nobody can do. In your scenario, those creatures with gills would be considered super-human. Lastly, I agree with you that disabled people need to be accommodated as much as possible, so widened doorways should be made by default. I never said anything to the contrary. And, while it's true that using wheelchairs takes practice, the point was that the problems described in the video plainly wouldn't happen in the scenario described. The able-bodied delegation would just be mildly slower and less well adept at riding their wheelchairs, but this would quickly fade with practice.

@MikehMike01

6 ай бұрын

we live in a fact-free society

@spartangoku7610

21 күн бұрын

You are totally correct! I want a cure for my autism! I don’t wanna move to an autism town, those people are weird.