Hey, everyone! Apologies about the random skip in the beginning. 5 days after this video went live, WWE claimed what was originally a Here Comes The Pain trailer leading to it being demonetized which would also mean KZread stops promoting the content since it can’t make money. In order to keep it monetized and have the video (hopefully) continue to be pushed to new audiences, I had to chop that segment out so sorry again if it ends up being a little jarring!

@therealnickynurotic8930

7 ай бұрын

Like theu dont have enough money ? Keep it up. Your videos are great

@NAMLeon

4 ай бұрын

right? Company itself is worth 7 billion @@therealnickynurotic8930

@ZoePoppas1994

4 ай бұрын

Do Smackdown VS Raw 2006

There's a reason why "smackdown: here comes the pain" always gets brought up in conversation when you talk about old wwe/wrestling games, this one is just INSANE and packed to the brim with content

Smackdown: Here Comes The Pain is just absolutely amazing. The graphics for its time was jaw dropping and the content gives you hours and hours of replayability. The amount of hours I put into the game is insane. I never, ever got bored of the game. I moved on but its because I had so many other games to play but man, this game is just amazing.

this is what i’ve been waiting for!!! the holy grail of wrestling games we need a svr2007 retrospective!!

One of the best wrestling games ever made

@sheriffdraws8789

Жыл бұрын

Not just wrestling... games in general, period 💯

@TheBlackScatPack

Жыл бұрын

The best wrestling game ever in my opinion lol

@INFRAREDiZNYC

Жыл бұрын

The best wrestling game******

@4cuttime

Жыл бұрын

💯🔥🔥

@nickweems4113

Жыл бұрын

Facts

The hours I put into this game as a kid. One of the best wrestling games ever. Probably in my top 15 games ever.

It has been 20 years but no other wwe games have given me more satisfaction than wwe hctp

It's a small little detail, but one of the things that I miss from this era of games, is how FAST the ref gets into position to count a pinfall. Almost instant positioning. If you check out the ref counts for recent games (Fight Forever, 2K23), there's this lag in timing that just doesn't feel right to me. I miss how it was. Made pinfalls intense.

@AmandaRogersarock1988

Жыл бұрын

It's painful in Fight Forever. The animation of the ref makes it look like they weren't paying attention for the first second or two the pin is initiated.

@StealthE1

Жыл бұрын

@@AmandaRogersarock1988 lol yeah, I've noticed it a lot in Fight Forever gameplay videos. It's not a serious major flaw for me... but it's still off-putting

@AmandaRogersarock1988

Жыл бұрын

@StealthE1 agreed! So many positives in the game.

The season mode alone with all the open endings and choices that influence your whole campaign makes this game forever replayable

Thank you Matty, there is no debate that here comes the pain is the greatest Wrestling game of all time. Just a suggestion but I'd love to see a WWF no mercy retrospective

@itsmjq9391

Жыл бұрын

Def Jam FFNY exists bro

@Willowposting

Жыл бұрын

Feel like SvR 05-07 and maybe 2011-2k14 are up there fighting for that title as well, not including 12

@ElGaby323

Жыл бұрын

​@@itsmjq9391yes, and HCTP is still better.

@tmerchead1

Жыл бұрын

@@itsmjq9391 Thats a fighting game hence why it it was at the recent CEO fighting game tournament .

@kheim8628

Жыл бұрын

I legit just got my HCTP in the mail from ebay and I'm geeked to play it. I've been playing Shut Your Mouth every once I. A while and smacldown vs raw 04.

Really loved playing this with you, always a good time!

No Mercy, SVR 06-08, WM 19, Day of Reckoning 1&2 Were my Childhood/PreTeen Year games. So much Nostalgia.

By far the best wrestling game of all time and it isn't even remotely close. No Mercy can be argued as the best but HCTP eclipses it by a fair margin imo.

@lakerskb2465

Жыл бұрын

Def Jam FFNY

@ThatGuyLuco

Жыл бұрын

@@lakerskb2465 It’s not like it’s better than HCTP

@lakerskb2465

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatGuyLuco your opinion

@rjmeeker89

Жыл бұрын

I'd play Smackdown Shut Your Mouth over Here Comes The Pain any day. I remember one of the issues i had with HCTP was wrestlers wouldn't stay laid out on the mat long enough to hit top rope finishers like Benoit's diving headbutt. They got up too fast, and that is still kind of an issue in modern games like 2k23 which makes 6 man tornado ladder matches a nightmare.

@derpderpin1568

Жыл бұрын

eh. not even in a lot of peoples top 3 so it must be pretty close.

Wrestling fans in general and, in this case, AEW fans are very, let's just say.. passionate. That game rightfully deserved all the criticism you gave. People are too consumed with fanboying instead of asking for a better product.

@AztecUnshaven

Жыл бұрын

@KeroTheGoat It's not just AEW fans. WWE fans defend a bunch of WWE nonsense all the time. Fans also tend to be more forgiving of games they grew up with too. HCTP is a fantastic game, but it had plenty of glitchy and janky gameplay moments, moments of clipping, annoying loading times. You can easily cheese the AI back then too, fights can finish super quick, etc. We turn a blind eye to those flaws because it a lot of us grew up with it and it was a key part of our youth. AEW FF is significant because it finally brought back a very robust and strong wrestling engine to a modern era. Something that 2K wrestling games have lacked for way too many years, that in itself is a huge accomplishment. Obviously, I do want the AEW game to get long term DLC support though.

@KeroValentine

Жыл бұрын

@@AztecUnshaven I played HCTP a lot... and I completely agree! One could make the exact same assessment for No Mercy as well. That game is pretty good but it has a lot of issues and is being held on a pedestal because a lot of people are looking at it with rose tinted glasses. Let's hope this game becomes very good with updates. More competition for the WWE the better.

@derpderpin1568

Жыл бұрын

@@AztecUnshaven none of those things are as bad as simply having a lack of content and bad modes, like every modern WWE game and the AEW game. AEW FF is just as janky as an N64 wrestling game. full of clipping, bad loading times, janky gameplay, easily cheesed AI, the fastest match times in the entire genre. it's literally all there, except the game has no content and horrible game modes. modern wwe games aren't even good but it is a FAR more robust and better functioning wrestling system than AEW and it's not even remotely close. AEW isn't even robust. it's ridiculously simple and lame and lacks any depth or options or flexibility.

@derpderpin1568

Жыл бұрын

@@KeroValentine has literally nothing to do with rose tinted glasses, such a massively overused expression. the gameplay and especially the game modes were 100x better in that era. it's just a fact and it's even quantifiable.

@sunkid02

Жыл бұрын

​@@AztecUnshavenlmfaooooooooooooooooo none of those things were problems i currently play and own hctp and none of those things have ever happened to me in my years of playing you probably had a bootleg copy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

One thing I love in this game is that you can add your CAWS to season mode an have rivalries and other interactions with them during the campaign .

What a time for wrestling and wrestling games. We'll never see it this good ever again.

I loved these games as a kid! My brother and I would play this game for hours. Such nostalgia, thanks Matty!

Literally play this game to this day! Been waiting for this one keep it up man 🔥

Been following you for a long time. It makes me very happy to see you cover wrestling games

What a game! Talk about nostalgia…. Fantastic video. Something I should delve into myself..

Thanks for covering this gem of a game from my childhood, Matty. Without a doubt the best wrestling game ever released. I share some mental synchronicities with you, too: Hating Lesnar as a child, and realizing as an adult and a fan that still occasionally tunes in, just how awesome he actually is. If Rey’s your favorite, I’m wondering if you saw Lesnar put him in the “Brock Lock” submission on an episode of Smackdown, back in the day. That made my soul leave my body, dude. Haha

Let’s gooooooo, best notification I could’ve gotten. LOVE the Rey Mysterio mask too man, this is peak content for ya boy

You're right about Fight Forever & Here Comes the Pain. One of my biggest disappointments & one of my favourite games to go back to. I'd love to see you cover Day of Reckoning 1 & 2 for the Gamecube & Raw 2 for the X-Box (you can skip Raw 1 lol).The DoR games are light on content, but have my favourite gameplay in any wrestling game. Raw 2 is super flawed but is one of the most unique WWE games out there. Also WWE Crush Hour because that's just Twisted Metal with WWE Wrestlers.

@AztecUnshaven

Жыл бұрын

Fight Forever is very similar to Day of Reckoning.

@KohmataReizno

Жыл бұрын

​@@AztecUnshaven It's similar of course, both games take the Aki formula, but DoR gameplay-wise has a lot of improvements that aren't present in Fight Forever. For example, in the DoR games you can't actual interrupt move animations during multi-man matches, which I was baffled you couldn't in Fight Forever. There's also a more pronounced limb damage system (which Matty would like I think judging by this video [though DoR still has momentum system), and with 2 a more in depth submission system & stamina system. Beyond that, there's more match-types (multi-man last man standing matches being my favourite), and both games have a much better story mode then what Fight Forever has to offer. I think HCTP's story mode is much better than either admittedly, but it'd be cool to see him cover them anyway.

I'd love to see a retrospective on the Day of Reckoning gamecube games. Absolutely loved them at the time, so I wonder how they hold up nowadays.

Oh helllll yeaaaaa. I just picked this up again and still awesome. You should just keep going forward with the releases. They were great up through WWE13.

It looks so much better because of the little details, the Jericho kick, rvds hop, brocks clothesline are all unique, now 2k gives everyone the same moves

@Retro_Gamer_89

11 ай бұрын

That's a fact Smackdown Here Comes The Pain wrestlers had their unique moves

All I have to say is IF THQ made it to the present and somehow still had a hand in development of WWE games, with todays graphics??? It would’ve been golden. The freedom they gave in their wrestling games is what really immersed me playing hours on end as a kid, getting caught playing past midnight on school nights lol. Made the best memories of my life.

Rey is still going strong and fighting his son Dom 😂I love it! I’m a long time wrestling fan since a young girl and still tune in and keep up with it. I did try to play some wrestling games but it was frustrating for me because I couldn’t get the characters to move faster lol

One of the best Wrestling games . Awesome vid Matty

Love it. Played the hell out of it back in 04

Yes yes yes - please do more of these!!

This was epic. Some other wrestling games you should definitely cover are wwe all stars, backyard wrestling, and def jam vendetta. Those are some of my favorites and have that arcade feel to them.

Also I’d love a revisit of any of the following: No Mercy, Day of Reckoning, Smackdown vs. Raw 2008, and the modern GOAT that you and I both love: WWE ‘13

One cool thing I did was basically turned Smackdown into an entire Cruiserweight-built roster show. Most of the roster was Cruiserweight CAWs and Billy Kidman was the WWE champion the 6 man tag matches were fun to play

I was hoping for this string of wrestling games for this channel

Best game ever so many childhood memories with this game❤ Need Remaster of this MASTERPIECE 😊

I've been playing this the last few days and I'm loving it. Feel like a kid again blazing through to WM in season. The ultimate edition mod(beta) makes the game a bit fresh too, the biggest addition being Jeff Hardy.

@zacktyler2810

5 ай бұрын

Good to know

where did you get that rey mask? that actually fits your head pretty well and looks great!

If you ever cover Smackdown VS Raw series you should give a shoutout to the PSP versions which are legitimate ports of the ps2 games and amazing for the time

My vote for Rumble Roses next.

Lol the Rey Mysterio made me laugh! 😂 619!

God I loved this game so much as a kid. My brother and I would mostly just play royale rumble and team up against the AI until it was just us 2 for the finale. Good times wish I could go back just for a day.

man oh man, smackdown vs raw 2006 on psp, & 2007 on 360 were pure gems.

Its unfortunate that you got backlash over your opinion on FF, but those hardcore fans like to turn a blind eye to facts. Anyways, glad you covered this gem, I think next you should do some of the SvR games.

dude i’ve been replaying the SvR games lately, this is perfect timing

Pretty amazing how well the graphics age, this came out 20 years ago!

5:26 Classic coordination right there 😂😂

I loved this video, this is what I was hoping AEW would be. I would love for more videos on Wrestling games. Maybe work your way up from here to 2k14

Double team moves are awesome, especially the double clothesline!

You should do a retrospective of the Def Jam Series, maybe a vid for Vendetta, FFNY, and FFNY: The Takeover?

Definitely one of the best wrestling games ever made. Great video. As for other games? Need to do the GameCube trilogy. Wrestlemania XIX, Day of Reckoning 1 and 2. (Don't bother with Wrestlemania X8, plz) I'd also recommend Retromania Wrestling, Wrestling Empire, and Fire Pro Wrestling World if you wanna get away from the WWE stuff.

You should cover “Backyard wrestling”. A legit classic!

I never stopped playing it. I enjoy it even now.

Real ones know the hardest match in season mode was the fatal four-way ladder match as either the U.S. Champion or Intercontinental Champion. The only equivalent is the triple threat cage match on Smackdown vs Raw.

I seriously need to get this game. Never even played it before.

videos on svr 06 and 11 are needed as they are the 2 best svr games

Crazy how good the gameplay has aged, Legendary wrestling game.

One of my favorite wrestling videogames of all time. WWE Smackdown! Here Comes the Pain came out from 20 years ago back in October 27, 2003 on the PlayStation 2 console system. The very last Smackdown game in the series before THQ and Yuke's Media Future Creators made WWE Smackdown! Vs. Raw in November 2, 2004.

My all time favorite. I still play it today.

I had a lot of fun with here comes the pain back in the day even though I never got into pro wrestling. I wish I could play it on my current Gen system.

Honestly, you should play the MDickie game “Wrestling Empire” It’s so crazy and nuts, it has a lot for a game made by one person

Imagine if AEW Fight Forever had this much content.

@Willowposting

Жыл бұрын

It would be considered a game at that point

@rogregg29445

Жыл бұрын

@@DamnWhoAskedit’s their first game but yeah

@Agrosheep1

Жыл бұрын

That's why I refuse to pay full price for it, looks fun but I'd probably play like 2 matches then never even look at it again

@simono.954

Жыл бұрын

​@@rogregg29445Like the Rock used to say "IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!" Fight forever is nothing but HYPE kid...

@rogregg29445

Жыл бұрын

@@simono.954 kid I’m 30 😂🤣😂😂

The AEW game is really more like WCW/nWo World Tour on the N64. HCTP is the fifth game in the smackdown series. While I am mostly disappointed in the creation suites in AEW FF, the game itself feels great, is great multi-player fun, and a tremendous place to start if we can get more content added to this with continued support or a sequel.

@Gamingistherapyforme

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely bare bones but damn is the gameplay is so addicting. The moves hit the way they should. It’s what 2k is missing. Aew got the core gameplay down. Now they just have to build around it and I have faith they will

@AztecUnshaven

Жыл бұрын

exactly!

@mah92lk

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gamingistherapyforme😂😂 Still defending the piece of crap. Yes of course only 4 player modes, joke of a creation suite (even SVR '06 was better) and that was before 18 years, bug fests, Jeez. You all cribbed about WWE 2k20 but FF is not even 1/10th compared to that game.

Smack down 2 and here comes the pain...goated

I love this game, season mode was so fun , I remember it so well I worked so hard to win the royal rumble to get shot at Brock Lesnar championship, In the storyline that lead up to match I got to choose what type of match it would be , last man standing, submission, or cage match. . I choose the last man standing and proceed to have one of the toughest wrestling game match I ever had now or sense. Brock was like the final boss, I hit him no less that 7 finishers to keep him down. My wrestler finisher, I use his own finisher on him. He keep getting up. I hit by his few times , each time I I thought I lose. It was least ,30 minutes of real time trying to beat him. It long , it was tough and it was fun as hell. I was able to win and felt great. No other wrestling game has given me that type of experience since. It such a great game and great memories

damn you did yourself such a disservice not playing this when you were younger due to not liking lesner lmaoo playing this game as a teenager with my friends is still vivid in my brain. I wish I could go back just to experience those great times. However glad you finally played it

Heck yeah, first he drew me in with the sonic games and now wrestling games. Ohhhh heck yeaahhhh

Best wrestling game ever. The ability to customize rosters and factions was awesome. Making my own faction and taking over in season was one of my favorite playthroughs in any game ever. This makes me miss my PS2. A remaster will probably never happen because it would flat out murder the recent WwE games in sales. The smart thing would be for next game to copy exactly all the mechanics, game modes etc; then use modern graphics and roster. But Vince 👀☠️

I played this a lot back then, ome of my fave!

This is in like my top 3 games of all time. There's so much to do, everything works, the addition of fighting stances and the high impact of the moves gives the gameplay a lot of character, there are so many environmental things to interact with, the create-a-wrestler is pretty alright, etc. It's such a deep game for being 20 years old. Modern wrestling games just don't have this level of depth, especially Fight Forever. There are fun aspects of FF, but there are also awful aspects. I haven't played it much. The Stadium Stampede looks like fun, but they really need to make this game fully cross platform because the PC community probably couldn't fill a full 30 player game.

I would love to see you do a video on smackdown vs raw 06

Matty forever perplexing me with his tastes. All of the great Rey mysterio moments, and he says the Great Khali feud was his favorite??? Lmao

@ZeroShaneBob

Жыл бұрын

Khali is one of the worst big men in the ring I have ever had the displeasure of watching.

Remember the first time I played this game was blown away !

Its crazy because AEW FFE is legit No Mercy with better graphics. Love this video btw. I actually just got my HCTP today off ebay. About to play right meow 🔥

You have to show some love to Day of Reckoning 1 and 2. I loved them on GameCube.

THIS WAS AN AMAZING GAME I REMEMBER PLAYING THIS AT 11 YEARS OLD

Also wanted to give a shout-out to WWF: Attitude and ECW: Hardcore Revolution. I consider these games The Room movie of their respective field, in that they’re so terrible, they’re amazing haha. Terrible graphics, hilarious VO, ridiculous, Fatality-like inputs to register finishers and even standard moves, and the sounds of cracking a microphone/baseball bat/ring bell over your opponents head and watching them bleed endlessly was always hilarious. Quick shoutout to WWE: All Stars, too. That game’s underrated as a wrestling game.

@onlyskramz

Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed Showdown: Legends of Wrestling 1, too, even if it’s considered a mid wrestling game. It was fun lol.

I still hold SVSR 2011 close to me as one of my favourite childhood games.

Jeff Hardy's full Moveset was available in the game you just had to buy it from the in game shop

This & Day of Reckoning are goats.

You can unlock Michael cole, tazz, JR and King to be playable tag team characters in your play through in the campaigns, this game was awesome although their were a few Flauds and Missing wrestler that were. Importanted to the year during this game added like Jeff Hardy, Hard-core Holly, Scotty 2 Hotty, Crash Holly that were added to Smackdown vs raw or other versions. But ultimatively best wrestling GAME I ever played as a teen I use to skip School because this Game was so addictive

SmackDown vs Raw 2008 GM Mode was fire!

The greatest wrestling game of all time big W also u should try wwe day of reckoning its a classic for gamecube

Best ever & they need to remaster this

I am also a massive AEW fan, I flew to Toronto to see Forbidden Door a few weeks ago and it was honestly one of the best live experiences I’ve ever had. In saying that, the hate you’re getting for not liking Fight Forever, pay no attention to it, the game is bad, like it’s really not good, hopefully in time it’ll be good but right now, it ain’t it. And that’s from a 33 year old who grew up absolutely loving games like No Mercy and the other AKI games, I think Here Comes The Pain is peak but those N64 games are special. But don’t let the haters get to you on Fight Forever, I share your opinion 🤘

Absolute classic wrestling game ❤

I remember reading about this before it came out in Game Informer & on GameWinners or GameFAQs lol was never more hyped for a wrestling game since the Elimination Chamber was included

Would love to see a retro review of WRESTLEMANIA on the spectrum!

I would love for this game to be remastered someday hopefully that's a day that comes sooner rather than later

@TheSubZero187

Жыл бұрын

The easiest thing they can do is put the current roster and legends on this since they can’t use a lot of these wrestlers anymore

Remember this game like it was yesterday

Here Comes The Pain is for sure one of the best wrestling games I ever played. I think my personal favorite is still Smackdown vs. Raw 2006 for its campaign mode, but Here Comes The Pain was soooooo good

We don't need a remaster...we need a remake of this masterpiece

@4cuttime

Жыл бұрын

I agree 💯

@therealnickynurotic8930

7 ай бұрын

They would have to get all the people in the game to sign off on it

HCTP hands DOWN is an EPIC Wrestling Game

I've collected and played almost all of the Smack, Smackdown vs Raw, wwe2k Games but this game is still in my top 5 wrestling games of all time.

I loved this game growing up. I really think you should have mentioned the weird AI movement and other bugs. Such as having to completely cripple an enemy with a completely red body and have to pin them multiple times wjth multiple speical attaccks/submissions to win a match.... But overall a very solid game with some of my favorite wrestlers of all time. I liked WCW more than WWE, and this game featured my favorite wrestlers who switched to WWE upon WCWs cancellation.

I think the Legends in this game are awesome. George Steele, Hillbilly Jim, Jimmy Snuka, Iron Sheik, and more.

That seem like the "ESPN NFL 2K5" game of wrestling games!!

@Retro_Gamer_89

11 ай бұрын

You can emulate it on Xbox Series X/S. I have gameplay on my channel, check it out, and subscribe. And as far as ESPN Football games gameplay wise ESPN Football ( 2K4 ) is better

Still own it to this day... it was an awesome game.

I hope you try no mercy and or revenge. Very fun wrestling games

Best wrestling game of all time. The biggest problem is that Jeff Hardy was not in it. They had his model created and all his moves, etc but took him out last minute when he got fired.