This controller was amazing. He tried to calm her down and explained what the problem was and made sure she understand it. Props to him!

@AV4Life

12 күн бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

@annoyingbstard9407

12 күн бұрын

And I’m sure he would have been exactly the same if it was a man.

@wannabetrucker7475

12 күн бұрын

​@@annoyingbstard9407 men are more annoying (bast*rds?) so probably not.

@LieseFury

12 күн бұрын

​@@annoyingbstard9407username checks out

@fkcoolers2669

5 күн бұрын

@@annoyingbstard9407 ratio

This is a true professional in the tower.

@chocolatecoveredgummybears

7 күн бұрын

90% of atc people are not however

@chocolatecoveredgummybears

7 күн бұрын

@@GWN_Garage lol

If I was her instructor, hopefully monitoring the frequency, I would have canceled today's activity and had her return to the ramp. Having the thoughts of being in trouble for the deviation must have been in the forethought of her mind and in my opinion, too much of a distraction.

@rapinncapin123

12 күн бұрын

Yep

@kaasmeester5903

12 күн бұрын

As a student pilot I'd have to agree... The thought of "I done messed up, made someone go around, what will the tower and the instructor say when I get back?" is not going to make for a focused solo flight. On my first XC solo, I took off with the transponder in STBY mode; I was naturally a little nervous and missed it while doing the checklist. ATC gave a friendly reminder to please turn it on immediately. But yeah, that did stay in my head for a little while during the flight. I'll stop short of joining those saying she shouldn't be out solo in the first place though. Not clear what exactly happened. It could be a mistake not realizing the nose of the plane was sticking out over the hold short line; a mistake she's likely not to make again after this!.

@pslny

12 күн бұрын

I suspect she was 50 to 100 miles away from home. I doubt she was familiar with this airport. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

@davidkelly7831

12 күн бұрын

Agreed. It's not a time for her to go flying after that, she needs to relax and reflect and get some more training before going out again

@user-mp9rd4hg8b

12 күн бұрын

Agreed. She was already too flustered and task saturated to copy down a phone number. :-)

That's a "Gold Medal" controller right there. As for the student - We are all going to make mistakes. It is essential that we learn to immediately put them behind us and get our minds back on the flying at hand and not let distraction cause further errors. It seems she did an admirable job of doing this (seeing as the video did not continue).

@SenorCrazylegs

11 күн бұрын

Admirable?! 😂

It's just a little more important to fully stop at a stop sign when you're in an airplane than it would be in a car on the road 😂

Very cool and calm controller. That goes a long way to prevent the pilot from becoming unnerved 👍

If I were a pilot, that’s the kind of controller I would hope to communicate with.

1978 long (300 NM) solo XC I taxied on to taxiway at GSO w/out a clearance. I thought I was still on the ramp. Ground called and informed me of my position, I requested taxi to runway, and that was that. 17,000 hours and 40 years later, no other deviations.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

I did my long XC to GSO as well. From ILG. This was 1993. And I’m at 16K hours. I seem to follow you. 🤣 don’t tell me you fly corporate jets as well? 👀

@chawkinz

12 күн бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 No. I flew regional 1989-2003 in CLT then instructed for JAL and ANA in California, retired 2018 from Lufthansa Training Center in AZ.

@chawkinz

12 күн бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 No. Flew regional CLT 1989-2003. Instructed JAL and ANA California, retired 2018 Lufthansa Training Center GYR (AZ). Also, various 141, 135.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

@@chawkinz oh, so you have been involved in training your whole career? That’s nice. I always loved training guys. I still do it with my current company.

@chawkinz

12 күн бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Except 10K hours Part 121, about 2K 135/91 charters. 5K JCAB/EASA/FAA.

Okay, I turn now. Good luck everybody else!

@rapinncapin123

12 күн бұрын

😂

@Jump-2-the-moon

11 күн бұрын

Oh god this reference 🤣🤣😂

@citationbob

11 күн бұрын

FAMILY GUY!!!!!!!

@rapinncapin123

11 күн бұрын

@@citationbob yes

Language barriers with student pilots is a hard thing with so many students coming to the US to learn. Patience like this is so very helpful!

@benwilcox1484

Күн бұрын

If only there was a law requiring English proficiency…

She needs a couple more lessons...

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

Nah. She will be fine. Everybody makes mistakes. She will never roll un to a runway again.

@jasonkimball7617

12 күн бұрын

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 she didn't just roll onto the runway, she didnt have the competence to do a 180. She wasn't ready and needed more lessons.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

@@jasonkimball7617 students are usually not taught to do a 180. That’s just silly to think she needs more lessons because of that. She probably did a run up and forgot to set the parking brake. She isn’t the first and she won’t be the last.

@andrzejostrowski5579

12 күн бұрын

I always keep my feet on the breaks during run up. This is how they thought me in my flight school. She’s going to be fine, it was just a silly mistake.

In the spirit of Family Guy: "How much clearance I need to take off? None? I take off now! Good luck everybody else!"

This isn’t “just” a language barrier thing… she’s a student pilot SOLO?! She should have at least 20hr with an instructor most likely. Holding short is like step one of your first left seat flight ever. It’s almost like she had 2hr of instruction and got shoved into a plane against her will. Her SA was absolutely terrible, or there was a major language barrier. One or the other (or both) but you certainly can’t dismiss both. I will say, comms are really intimidating at that phase so I totally get that part, but if I messed up a “hold short” - I’d be actively resolving the situation ASAP and probably freaking out to clear the runway. Then again, you’ve also gotta be listening to landing aircraft - we’d still be at the ramp and my instructor would have me trying to build a picture of what’s happening in the air already. When approaching an active with ATIS after listening to ground for a few minutes, you should know everyone coming in and how far out they are - with that in mind, just taxiing over the bars onto an active is kinda indefensible.

Again with people flying who does not have a level 4 understanding of the english language

How much signal I need to cut across eight lane? None? I turn now. Good luck, everybody else!

I always stop at least 10 feet from hold short bars.

@garys5175

19 сағат бұрын

15 even

@JustMe-fo4ev

6 сағат бұрын

@@garys5175 no

With a different controller, could there also be a possible deviation for zero readback when given the instruction to taxi down the runway and exit via C? I've seen clips of controllers being extremely picky about the readback being perfect.

@UncleKennysPlace

10 күн бұрын

Only some readbacks are mandated.

What a guy...

Good old MYF I got my Private there in 1969. Great memories.

If this doesnt keep happening San Diego wont have airport anymore

The nice the controller it is.

lol so many people raced to their keyboards to be racist over this one.

@garys5175

19 сағат бұрын

no

@JustMe-fo4ev

6 сағат бұрын

@@garys5175 guess reading isn't your strongsuit then, bud. run along now.

How much turn signal do I need?

@chocolatecoveredgummybears

7 күн бұрын

LOL

Super controller

i dont understand what wrong say turn left use runway and exit C so ??

@codingvio7383

Күн бұрын

The pilot was likely asked to hold short of the runway by the marking that spans across the taxiway. If you are not cleared onto the runway, it is forbidden to cross these markings. And when you are holding short, you have to make sure the entire plane is behind it. She like was passed it a little and that counts as being on the runway, resulting in the go around of the other pilot attempting to land.

Seems to be a language barrier at the very least. Hopefully she gets all of her "bugs" worked out before she hurts herself, or someone else. Good job to the controller for showing patience.

@LieseFury

12 күн бұрын

racist pos. she speaks english.

@hoopslaa5235

12 күн бұрын

Family and instructor push to female let alone second languages Learner Jesus Christ. 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

@JustMe-fo4ev

5 күн бұрын

@@hoopslaa5235 Was that even English? Maybe you shouldn't comment.

@hoopslaa5235

5 күн бұрын

@@JustMe-fo4ev over your head apparently! Must suck to be party of the retahhded masses. Sad to be you!

Planes in the air are 5x5. Planes on ground are 5x1. Terrible radio interference on ground.

@sanantonio855

12 күн бұрын

that's an amateur recording it's crystal clear in the tower

Now I'm curious. When you've been givin "The Number" then that's a pretty big deal right? Aren't you supposed to get on the phone, get told you're done for, and that be that? She avoided the whole call with more ignorance to the situation, and was given a free pass back to the active? What am I missing here?

@wb1065

12 күн бұрын

No. It’s just a conversation with the controller that hopefully can be resolved without any more hassle. But if you really screwed up it means they’ll notify the FAA and it’ll be reviewed for possible license suspension. But the controller doesn’t have any power over whether or not you can fly.

@codingvio7383

Күн бұрын

@@wb1065 Don't you need takeoff clearance from the controller? Surely the controller has say in that.

We’ve gotta crack down on the “English proficient” endorsement

If the pilot was a dude, ATC would be a lot more stern.

Nice controlling - not like in Australia

Sounded like a case of FWA

What happen when ATC messed Up?

@danielmosey6203

7 күн бұрын

Clearly nothing. In the US it’s almost a given on a weekly basis.

I have been watching a lot of these pilot deviation videos. Seems to be a pattern lately with the type of pilot (and no, I don't mean female), I will just leave it at that.

@Raiders33

12 күн бұрын

ESL 😉

@qwert0

12 күн бұрын

Say it with your chest, pussy. Racists used to have balls. Did DEI take your manhood too? lmao

@SenorCrazylegs

11 күн бұрын

Female pilots make up a few percent of my airline's pilot cadre, and 90% of those under performance review. Not many want to be pilots and we hire unsuitable ones for diversity purposes to appease ideologues who can't themselves fly. So if you're noticing that they're bad at flight school, you'd be right. Some are good. Most are poor.

@rickscott4911

11 күн бұрын

Been seeing a fair few arrogant older men featuring in them - is that what you mean?

@pinverarity

9 күн бұрын

⁠@@rickscott4911 Yeah, the testosterone poisoning incidents always seem to involve a “certain type” of pilot too. Odd how that never seems to rankle as much.

Great controller

Please, use larger font size. Yours is unreadable on a phone.

@UncleKennysPlace

10 күн бұрын

Get a larger phone, as all of us old people do.

@TinLeadHammer

10 күн бұрын

@@UncleKennysPlace 6.5 inches is small? Anything larger will be a tablet.

I'm not sure. The ATC sounds very professional and kind, but I'm not certain if she should continue the flight. It seems like this pilot's physical and mental state is not prepared for the potentially high-risk flight ahead.

@SenorCrazylegs

11 күн бұрын

I suspect her 'physical and mental state' are permanently like this, and she shouldn't be flying aircraft.

@JustMe-fo4ev

5 күн бұрын

You're very weird for reaching this conclusion

Yeah, by all means let’s her back up in the air!

@wyattroeder3228

12 күн бұрын

😂

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

We have no idea from this how her flying skills are.

@DrLumpy

11 күн бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 We're teenage KZreadrs. How dare you suggest we don't know something.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

11 күн бұрын

@@DrLumpy LOL. I always forget that most of you guys are teenagers indeed.

"I can't fly anymore?" Controller: Hmm, now we have to deal with you driving. Ok, let's get you back in the air right away! lol

Im sorry but if there’s a flight anyone is careful and making sure they don’t mess up.. its their first solo. I don’t understand how people can let stuff like that happen and not only that… but not know until like 5 minutes later. Everyone makes mistakes I understand that, but in this specific situation it’s just wild.

I wouldn't let her fly without an instructor onboard.. period

@freepilot7732

12 күн бұрын

The controller does not have that authority.

@wlewis8336

12 күн бұрын

@@freepilot7732 obviously not.. but the FAA does

@freepilot7732

12 күн бұрын

@@wlewis8336 yes but I was going by the literal words that were typed.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

@@wlewis8336why? You know her flying skills from this? I know people with thousands of hours, who have never flown into an airport with a control tower and the first day they try, they would be nervous like her. People make mistakes.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

@@freepilot7732it was a mistake. New pilots make mistakes. They learn from their mistakes.

How her instructor thought she was safe to be sent flying on her own is mind boggling. Lots of comments here by people saying "its just a mistake". WHAT! No comprehension of basic safety and clearly incapable of manoeuvring the aircraft on the ground let alone in the air. Couldn't even do a 180? When I heard "so I cant fly anymore" compounded her lack of knowledge and immaturity. Back to the classroom young lady.

@SenorCrazylegs

11 күн бұрын

Well I'm glad someone said it. I find this fawning over female pilots on the internet absolutely ridiculous. She sounds like a retard who shouldn't be anywhere near an aircraft.

@sharontorgerson2556

10 күн бұрын

Thank you for your comment! Sometimes being in touch with reality is more important than "being nice". Good grief. "Being nice" to her in her ignorance and incompetence could easily result in her death or someone else's in a few months. Recently had a neighbor whose dog was attacked by another neighbor's pitbull. The bitten dog's owner refuses to report the attack out of a desire to be nice to the pitbull's owner, since they were just getting acquainted with them and didn't want them to feel bad. There IS an appropriate time and place to manifest survival instinct/skills.

Yet another person that should never be a pilot.

@secondrule

12 күн бұрын

LOL...relax, she's learning. As if someone gets a tix or fender bender in a car, they can never drive again lol

@captainchaos3667

12 күн бұрын

Yes. Only people who never make mistakes, like you, should be allowed to be pilots.

Soon to be a Captain of a red chinese airline.

@JustMe-fo4ev

5 күн бұрын

Nah.

She sounds drunk.

@rickyism1576

11 күн бұрын

English def is not her native language.

@JustMe-fo4ev

5 күн бұрын

Nah.

Nope. Don't care if it offends anybody. PROFICIENCY in English is the MINIMUM requirement.

@johnthompson5741

12 күн бұрын

ICAO level 4 is what’s required in aviation. She seems to have understood and communicated everything here with no issues in terms of a language barrier, just aviation knowledge is what she didn’t know

@ahgflyguy

12 күн бұрын

@@johnthompson5741aviation knowledge is really important, too. Rolling a stop sign in an airplane is kinda a big deal.

@Tony36847

12 күн бұрын

My take from listening to the exchange: I can't imagine this "pilot" ever being able to process all the information a pilot needs to operate safely without an instructor. She seems completely oblivious to basic safety procedures and will probably kill someone if allowed to continue

@DrLumpy

11 күн бұрын

@@Tony36847 Your "take"...that's hilarious. It's based on a couple dozen words that were barely readable due to the radio reception problem. 75% of her comms were not readable. You do an amazing job of assessing people's psychological state based on an incredibly tiny bit of non-information, including your premonition "Will probably kill someone". It's really amazing. I'd like to hear your diagnosis and prognosis when you're allowed to hear more than just a few words. You could have a great career with CNN, analyzing political debates.

@Migglesworth

11 күн бұрын

@@johnthompson5741 Nope. She's taking too long to translate in her head.

Sounds like Captain We Too Low’s wife.

@GFOER123

10 күн бұрын

Probably Sum Ting Wong's wife in this case.

@codingvio7383

Күн бұрын

@@GFOER123 Hoo Lee Fuk also mentioned

Whoever the CFI was who signed this woman off needs to be retrained and right quick. How can you be this unaware of your surroundings?!

I think she shouldn't fly anymore. Her instructor shouldn't instruct any more either.😡😡😡😡

Sounds Asian.

they drive the same

@LieseFury

12 күн бұрын

gfys

@msilver4888

7 күн бұрын

@@LieseFury wow did it take you all day to think of that

@LieseFury

7 күн бұрын

@@msilver4888 i could ask you the same for your shitty lazy racist joke

@msilver4888

6 күн бұрын

@@LieseFury relax I know your feelings are so hurt but dont worry you will realize it's true

@JustMe-fo4ev

5 күн бұрын

@@msilver4888 lol you're trying so hard to be edgy online... weird

I bet she never uses her blinkers when she’s driving !

Future airline captain. Ain't DEI great!

@FlightX101

12 күн бұрын

Thats now how DEI works lol. The instrument and ATP exams are brutal and dont care what race you are if you dont pass 😂

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

DEI is a dog whistle. NASA used diversity for their Space Shuttle astronauts…..wait for it………in the early 1980s. Do you think those were less qualified? Come on man.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

You don’t understand how DEI works. Don’t regurgitate. NASA used DEI for their space shuttle program in the early 1980s. Everybody was fully qualified. That’s still the case today.

@LieseFury

12 күн бұрын

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183but the angry man on the tv said to be angry!

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

@@LieseFury right. 🤣🤣. I said something similar, but somehow my response got taken down. This guy probably could get the job he wanted and now blames DEI instead of taking responsibility.

When she said, "...I can't fly anymore?" He should have responded, "No ma'am you can't. I'm confident a long and enjoyable career in the fast food industry awaits you."

@arryaxx263

12 күн бұрын

What, so she could be your boss?

@waldoinaz

11 күн бұрын

@@arryaxx263 No, but I am looking for someone to join the cleanup crew for my construction company. I doubt either of you are qualified though.

@SenorCrazylegs

11 күн бұрын

I'm sure United would hire her. She is female and non-white after all.

@jenniferknight2010

10 күн бұрын

She made a mistake and the ATC was awesome. As opposed to Waldo who will always and forever be a horse's ass.

@waldoinaz

9 күн бұрын

@@jenniferknight2010 Oh cupcake…did your precious “feels” get hurt?

I'm not in the area but I'm uncomfortable flying right now knowing that she may be in the sky somewhere. Also, that radio needs to be fixed.

@sdaniels7114

12 күн бұрын

Not if the mic was 5 inches from her mouth. If that's the case it was working as intended.

@countryfucius

12 күн бұрын

@@sdaniels7114 Sure, the static is definitely based on mouth proximity.

@kaasmeester5903

12 күн бұрын

Tower didn't seem to have a problem reading her on the radio. It might just be crappy reception at wherever the aerial is that picks up radio traffic for RealATC.

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

You don’t know her piloting skills from this.

@countryfucius

12 күн бұрын

@@kaasmeester5903 0:53

Melania Trump going to solo

Asian woman flying... wow this is scary.

@6tuf85dyfu

12 күн бұрын

Wow... this is racist.

@2806vick

12 күн бұрын

wtf dude. No need to be racist

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

Your racism is showing.

@deetee5052

12 күн бұрын

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 lol facts Trump racism... sorry u got ur feelings hurt?

@rtbrtb_dutchy4183

12 күн бұрын

@@deetee5052 my feelings aren’t hurt. But you look bad and uneducated.