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@leagueaddict8357

Ай бұрын

I have a MSI lightweight V2, and that is my favourite mouse I have big hands and that mouse is simply the correct size + comfortable, other mice for me are usually too small.

@user-ug3mn8vn1r

Ай бұрын

Try the Razer V3 HyperSpeed wireless it uses a AA battery and has a wireless connection.

@Mageoftheyear

Ай бұрын

Daniel, you need DiamondLobby Reviews in your life. There's no better mouse reviewer on youtube. www.youtube.com/@DiamondLobbyReviews/videos

@diocub4022

Ай бұрын

G305 was my go to but I kept buying it over and over, and I realized I had to find a similiar mouse without spending too much. The razer mini viper was the closest to it. Its wired but the shape was perfect, especially when putting sticky smooth texture pack that comes with it and put on the side. But yeah no more spending 5 mouses for a g305.

@JayPlaylists

Ай бұрын

I had the same issue and got good results using a UGREEN USB 3.0 Switch Selector. Since you're possibly running cables to the gaming PC anyway, you'll just need a USB 3.0 male to male 20 to 25 ft long. You can use any mouse wired, wireless, Bluetooth any mouse and easy access to select which PC

Logitech does two things the best: insisting that you wanted to click twice and realizing you actually wanted to scroll all the way up when you scroll down.

@GrainGrown

Ай бұрын

Also, with keyboards, when you want a word to have one S letter, Logitech is like "just one?? here's four for you, enjoy."

@evilleader1991

Ай бұрын

@bigcreoman

Ай бұрын

used g102 to polish coating case, used g304 to polish coating case - no double clicks, but it will be small problem - im a solder master, awesome mouse, no need to spend hundreds

@sydskits5962

Ай бұрын

People don't get it, its meant as a feature overtime..🙃

@usmanmohammad7417

Ай бұрын

Never had scrolling issues, but the double click issue has made me replace 4 g305s

Me with mcChicken’s:

@NargleThornberry

Ай бұрын

😂

@ohmyyyy

Ай бұрын

Whats bad about it

@Covicult

Ай бұрын

@@ohmyyyythe good is it’s McDonalds. The bad is it’s McDonald’s.

@ThePimpinator

Ай бұрын

Aint no way he just asked what's bad about mcdonalds 💀 ​@ohmyyyy

@bumbaclot813

Ай бұрын

Me with popeyes. Same day sooooo good. Next day. My employer is asking me if I'm doing drugs in the bathroom I'm in there so much.

Its time to learn soldering and replace the switch yourself. The switch cost 1-3$ a piece and you can get the one with high durability (20M clicks). Decent soldering station cost around the same price as your mouse and it can also be use to do another projects. If you haven't do any soldering, maybe it'll take you 30-60 minutes the first time. But if you know what you are doing, it'll take around 10 minutes to replace a switch. Search for some tutorials online, you should find plenty. In the end it comes back to you, how you want to solve the double click problem. For me I prefer changing the switch myself because I like to tinker with stuff.

@terrycruise-zd5tw

Ай бұрын

dont you have to buy replacement pads then too if the screws are underneath?

@Katze822228

Ай бұрын

@@terrycruise-zd5tw yeah but the skates on logitech mice are shit anyways. After market skates like core pads glide a lot smoother. And if you don't want to spend much money just get a cheap pack of dot skates from china, they're still better than the skates on the g305 and the cheapest ones were less than a dollar last time I checked, shipping included

@damzelfly

Ай бұрын

@@terrycruise-zd5tw well, you can stick the old pad back to its place. That way you don't have to buy a new pad. Its not optimal but it'll work.

@raffay7027

Ай бұрын

@damzelfly Are side mouse buttons replaceable? I have been using Glaive RGB Pro for 2years. I love the shape & don't want to upgrade yet. The LEFT click & SIDE (BACK) button double clicks. I can solder but need to know what to buy for the side buttons.

@damzelfly

Ай бұрын

@@raffay7027 ​ generally yes. But you have to do some research on your particular mouse. Search for teardown videos. If you don't mind, you can also open up your mouse and see the part number of the switch for the side button. Then you need to look it up if you can get that particular part online or anywhere else. Do your own research before committing anything that can potentially harm your mouse.

if you collect all the mice when they break you could repair them all in one go and save yourself a bunch of money and you dont have to throw them in the landfill

@nopelol8718

26 күн бұрын

I would say selling for parts/not working is fine too if you don't want to spend time pursuing this.

@bknighty28

19 күн бұрын

@@nopelol8718 okay buy your opinion doesn't matter. The price of the mouse comes from assembly and convenience. It's a single board with a sensor and a chip designed for that sensor all in one board. These switches he claims are breaking are quite literally plug and play and are like 90 cents each. Your opinion doesn't matter because you chose to share it without so much as a clue as to what you're talking about.

I have a G305 for 8 years now, haven't replaced it once. What I did was mod it to have hot swappable buttons with a cheap board from AliExpress and did a small cut in the front portion where the buttons are fixed so that they always stay with the bottom part of the mouse when I open it. Now this is an eternal G305.

@zanechristiansen

Күн бұрын

i have a wired one i think they call it the g pro hero idfk same mouse but wired and it developed a weird double click and the entire right click button would just get stuck down and it wouldnt come back up just stuck in a clicked position.. well i just pushed it even harder and forced it to click and come back up and the double clicking stopped lmao.. no problems with this mouse since.

I soldered different swiches onto my G PRO wireless. Optimum tech made a video about it. It was my first attemt at soldering, and it worked. The soundprofile is also waaaay nicer.

@MasterMarioMX

Ай бұрын

Glad I wasn't the only one who though "let's just put different switches and you're good to go!" 😂But I didn't replace them because of use decay, I replaced them to save money on "a silent mouse". funny how 1 solution works for multiple problems

@gorjy9610

Ай бұрын

For people who don't want to solder new switches there are replacing PCBs with new ones already mounted. And even one with sockets so you can just pull them out without soldering and just put new in when needed.

@GeminionRay

Ай бұрын

I haven't replaced any of my mouse ever since I learned basic soldering. Whether it's double-clicking or reverse scrolling, the soldering kit takes care of it easily, and saves a lot of money. Just stock up a bunch of switches and you're good to go.

@bullyakker

Ай бұрын

ASUS keris aimpoint. on sale $69. hot swap switches and 2 ROG and 2 Omron included. a charge lasts me a week using it 10+ hours a day

@gcolombelli

28 күн бұрын

Bonus point: you can actually buy decent switches that will last way longer than the crappy ones that comes with most mice these days.

I recommend buying a soldering kit (

@Noname-iq1gz

21 күн бұрын

The great thing about a soldering kit is that you can transform any shitty mouse/keyboard/controller into something that costs a lot to buy. Just need to do like 30 mins of research, order the part, then follow the instructions and boom you’re done. I solved stick drift on ps5 controller this way, upgraded my mouse and my keyboard

@MediaBrad

21 күн бұрын

I switched mine with HUANO Blue Dot Blue Shell 0.74N Mouse Micro Switch Gold Alloy Contacts. Works great 2 years later still. 50 million clicks lifetime so should last very long.

It could be the plastic plunger that clicks the switch twice. The switch on corsair mice and probably other mice for instance makes a dent in the plastic plunger, about 0.5-0.25mm and essentially makes two off-center points that can make contact with the switch, causing double-clicking. Pasting a thin layer of double sided tape or so can fill the gap, permanently fixing the issue possibly. People often assume its the switch when its just the plastic that wears after use. Hope this helps.

@gcolombelli

28 күн бұрын

Damn, I thought they were saving a couple of cents on the switch and getting switches rated for less clicks, but maybe they're just saving a fraction of a cent with a thin plunger that wasn't even well engineered to begin with.

Mouse repair video due up next, lol. Thanks for sharing this with us. I like the insight into your thought process.

I love this model and ran it for a long time, went through like, 3 of theses until each of them double clicked, lol. With a AAA battery and an adapter it gets very light, under 90g (with a rechargeable AAA, even lighter with a fancy AAA), and still lasted almost a month of regular use, lol. After a while I ended up changing to a G Pro but the G305 still has a place in my heart.

7:30 "I've just accepted that once every couple of years I might start developing double click issues and need to replace the mouse." Congratulations to Logitech for cementing planned obsolescence as something normal into the minds of consumers.

@Giadro1412-nx8ek

Ай бұрын

its not just logitech, double click issues come with almoust all brands, switches need to be replaced after a number of clicks, its up to you if you preffer to replace them or buy other mouse, in my case its more easy to buy another one, because even triying to learn solder its not the hard part, its have to wait 2-3 months to get the switches from aliexpress, local repair shops cost 2/3 of a new mouse.

@JiggyJones0

Ай бұрын

It's not planned obsolescence. Anything with moving parts is going to wear down over time.

@gcolombelli

28 күн бұрын

They used to use much better switches on their older hardware, newer stuff doesn't last even half as long as stuff they made from the early to mid 2000s. Maybe it's not so much planned obsolescence as it's just cheaping out on parts. Anyways, you can buy better quality switches and replace them for something better. If it hadn't proprietary firmware, you could probably just bump up the debounce timer a bit and the same old switches would still work fine for a bit longer, which is another reason I'm not planning on buying proprietary input devices anymore. I used to love Logitech, but they keep designing their products to last shorter and shorter and find new ways to make it turn to e-waste after a while, I'm really disappointed.

@RestTarRr

27 күн бұрын

Every company has double clicking issues unless the switches are optical. You can't expect parts not to wear down but he has to be really unlucky for them to fuck up so often. I've mained the g305 for 3-5 years and it doesn't double clicking. Now it's just sitting in case my main mouse ever breaks. The scroll was fucked for a while as it would sometimes scroll the opposite direction but then it randomly fixed itself. For a mouse that cost 50 euro and lasted like 5 years, that's a bargain. Companies only give you 2 years of warranty and razer mice and superlights have been breaking like flies sometimes even before the warranty ends.

@gcolombelli

27 күн бұрын

@@RestTarRr nah, it's not bad luck, just buying new stuff, they used to put switches rated for over 50 million clicks, nowadays it's common to find switches rated for just 10 million or 20 if you're lucky. Most new hardware is made to last for two or three years tops and be thrown away after that. You can still buy better switches, replace them and it should last 8~10 years, it's just that almost no company puts the higher quality stuff in their hardware anymore. Another aspect where they cheap out in how they only use decent switches for the left and right buttons and everything else uses a crappy, loud and super hard to press "tactile switch" instead of the traditional microswitch.

The reason why I love this mouse is that it wakes up instantly like a wired mouse. I've learned how to replace the switch whenever I get the double click issue.

I have 4 of these. They're just the obvious choice when we look at specs and price.

@Saieden

Ай бұрын

I use the wired version, it just does the basics really well and is great for claw grip.

@farmeunit

Ай бұрын

Used to like them but switched to Corsair M65. Work great.

@more_less

Ай бұрын

Just bcuz they're wireless doesnt make it worth to exchange quality

I've had the wired version of this as well as several Logitech mice and other products. Without fail, all of them developed issues after a year or so, and the mice always start double clicking as soon as the warranty expires. Since then I've tried both Steelseries and Razer mice and they have both been rock solid. I don't think it's a good idea to keep giving money to a company with such low quality standards for such a primary component of their products, not to mention it creates unnecessary e-waste. You are probably better off finding another mouse that fits your needs from another brand that doesn't die every few months.

Also a big fan of the G305, and I encountered the double click issue a few months ago. I wound up soldering in a new left and right switch and it works perfectly.

@Cyliano

20 күн бұрын

Same, I installed a hot swap board on it

I like this new type of video. You seem to do this type of thing very well, and I think your honesty and genuineness shines and this is quite refreshing on KZread where much of it is clickbait shock horror alarm fakeness. Keep this going, nice work dude!

Been using the Razer Pro Click Mini for about a year now, and have no complaints. Uses a replaceable battery (or 2! Your choice) like the 305 and is similar shape. The Razer has other features like a 4-way scroll wheel, bluetooth connectivity, and a switchable ratchet/smooth scroll wheel button. But the best thing? Silent mouse buttons! It’s a game changer for shared spaces or working in public spaces. It’s similar prob to the Logitech MX Anywhere 3S mouse, which I’ve not tried.

When I saw the thumbnail, I had to watch it. My buddy got me one for my birthday last year, and I've got such a love/hate relationship with it since. I've now got a can of electrical cleaner on hand because of double click issues. I'll probably wind up drilling an access hole on my left mouse button one of these days for easy access, but until then, prying the button up works well enough for access.

Using these for years. Love them

I have had one of these for years, bc of its cost benefit (for u to have an idea, this mouse costs 18% of the minimum wage here in Brazil, so its possible to imagine what a top of the line mouse costs here hahaha) and its still as good as the day I bought it. It just needs to be cleaned from time to time and the Logitech "G" is almost gone

I love this mouse too! Ive had 2-3 over the years and only recently upgraded to the g pro wireless. Not entirely sold on it yet though.

Steelseries Rival 3 wireless. Lives long enough, sturdy, comfortable. I bought it two years ago, still working. The logitech mouse in the video started dbl clicking and scroll wheeling like a month after I bought it...

Pretty good mouse overall indeed for the price and what it offers, I got one to switch to wireless mouse and keyboard. I've had it for over a year and a half and no problems so far, I have used it daily. Now, recently I got an ergonomic mouse from work so an ergo mouse of mine I had been using for work for the past few months will be for my daily personal use, so I will be switching between the Logitech G305 and MX ERGO Trackball since I do not use my PC just for gaming, so hopefully that will extend the life of my G305 before it starts showing any problems like you mentioned.

Buy a soldering iron and change the switchs! you can use the older ones for the spare switchs

This video is so relatable. I'm on my second G305. I can attest to the near endless battery and the flawless connectivity. But the reason for replacing my first is that the LMB is having those double click issues. My first I got for $50 from BestBuy years ago in black. My second I got for $35 from Amazon in white. I was contemplating getting BestBuy's product warranty plan that allows you to replace it within 24 months no questions asked, but I learned that their plan has drastically changed over the years and now requires a membership with fees. But it's exactly this mouse's build condition that has me apprehensive from moving up to a G Pro Wireless.

@ThisisDD

Ай бұрын

The replacement switch kit is about $10 and required no soldering. Even comes with new feet.

@AbrahamZX1

Ай бұрын

The Best Buy plans do not require a membership. The membership comes with a 1 year geek squad warranty included for everything you purchase on BB. However, you can pay for the separate (and longer lasting) warranty still with or without the membership. I bought a lot of tech last year with warranties from BB and I don't have any of their subscriptions.

@Smokinjoewhite

Ай бұрын

Buy a switch for a few dollars, if you don't know how to solder, learn, it's easy.

@dxrrk

Ай бұрын

i had a g203 in black, the left click started double clicking and being unable to hold clicks, i want to get a lightweight mod and replace the switches on the clicks. such a good mouse

nice speakers are those svs? youd get better sound and bass response if your sub was in the corner and not sending sound waves sideways against your speakers. i have a similar issue with the g502 x middle scroll wheel and bought a few of them. I have to push down really fucking hard on the scroll wheel to stop it from getting stuck and staying in page scroll mode. its just because they get dirty and happens more in humid environments i think

I just picked one up the other week, was tired of my cabled corsair mice. I generally go with heavy mice. But once I saw the light weight mods and the cheap price for the mouse. Decided to give lighter weight a try. I've really been liking it. Heard about the double click issue happening for some users. I'm only waiting on replacement feet and I'll be switching out the switches for kailh gm8.0's which are tanks. You also convinced my to buy a 2nd one in purple to keep on my living room PC. Good stuff.

the first 15 secs of the video sums up the main reason why pretty much everyone, including me, still buying Logitech Gaming Mouse (not all of them are good thou just some) eventhou they wear out easily (double click). I've tried other popular brand like razer, but the shape and the button placements just doesn't feel right. But since I realized that Logitech gaming mouse doesn't last long (not just a random bad batch), I started using using 2 mouse. 1 Logitech gaming mouse G502x and a different brand (chinese knockoff) that has the same exact shape and the same buttons placement as G502 but cost 3-4 times less, what I do is I use the logitech mouse one for only gaming, and the chinese knockoff one for non-gaming (browsing, video edting, etc). This way I don't wear out my logitech gaming mouse by doing non gaming activity and spend less money by not replacing it so often. So what's the difference between the chinese one and logitech, the chinese one is practically shaped the same and the buttons placement are also the same? The build quality is different, the laser is lower quality, the button is not as comfortable to press as the logitech one, but for normal browsing and non gaming activity it's good enough and it's shaped the same so it doesn't get awkward when switching between mouse

For me, this is the G502. I have one on four different PCs, and I have three in the box. Why? The G502 is the best mouse I've ever used; nothing else comes close. But it is susceptible to pet hair getting in the scroll wheel. When it does, scrolling becomes inconsistent. It is possible to take the mouse apart and clean it, but it is tricky and can lead to some damage. So when there's a good sale, I buy one or two to keep around. When one gets "hairy," I set it aside to be repaired later. Not a replacement for the G305 -- a wired mouse with multiple programmable buttons.

@robertkennedy8503

Ай бұрын

I can't agree more with you, I really like my G502, best mouse I've ever used, and like you I keep two spares in case they ever stop making it.

@brucepreston3927

Ай бұрын

Same here! I am still using one of the original g502 proteus spectrum and I have 2 more of the g502 hero...I also have a g502 lightspeed that I take on the go...It is the most comfortable mouse I have ever used in my life and I have tried at least 50 different mice, most of which I ended up returning...

@ironiclee9751

Ай бұрын

I've been trying to find alternatives to the G502 but I can't find any with as much programmability with as many buttons. Luckily I've only had to buy 2 of these.

@ChristopherPunton

Ай бұрын

In my experience, this is my third mouse and no other mouse can compare to it. It is undoubtedly the most exceptional mouse I have ever had the pleasure of using.

@Roman00744

Ай бұрын

@@ironiclee9751 G604

I love this, its a very different vibe but its a unique video that has a good story behind it

I am a technician and a modder for the g305. My switches died after 3 years of use and i managed to replace them with better switches. I replaced them with the huano blue pink dots and it became a really expensive feeling mouse. The only really stupid thing about it is that the cable for the switch modules are glued to the chassis, meaning you might have to resolder a jumper to it and also that the screws are hidden begind the skates. However, logitech will send you new skates for free if you talk to their customer service. Mine was 3 years old and 2 years out of warranty and they sent me new skates anyways, im also not even in the US, but Brazil.

I have both the G305 and the G502 Hero, and i alternate between them both often, and they're great mice overall. My 305 I've had since it first came out, and have experienced 0 issues. Also i think I've only replaced the battery about 4 times in 6 years.

@FrostyBunnybottom

Ай бұрын

4 times in 6 years is crazy, I usually change mine atleast once a month which is why I invested in rechargeable batteries but you must have your polling rate at the lowest setting to get that amount of battery life and on top of that turning it off every night lol

I can recommend compressed air and contact cleaner... (you know those cans with a thin straw spray nozzle)... Remove dust stuck underneath the button with compressed air, and if dust and grime has found itself into the mechanical parts of the switch, just blast it with contact cleaner. This should fix the double clicking issue. My theory is that the scroll wheel can force dust into the area underneath the mouse button, and once it gets inside the "switch" you get an unstable connection. This has happened to me twice over the years and it's a common issue with mice. With this being said, I am volunteering for a local repair group in my city. During every meetup we help people fix tons of issues with contact cleaner alone. You'd be amazed of how many perfectly good products people would throw away, when in reality they just need a proper deep clean. (like failing buttons, faulty headphone jacks, general bad circuit or cable connections). The fixes are often SO simple it makes me sad to think about how much electronic waste we create unnecessarily create because we lack basic repair skills.

@minecraftmike5193

Ай бұрын

What do you mean the bottom switch?

@Snuckster2

Ай бұрын

if you wanted to cut down on returns I think a bath in an ultrasonic tank with distilled water and a tiny bit of dish soap before the contact cleaner would be an even better result. The water isnt going to hurt anything thing as long as it's unpowered and fully dry before being put back into use

@farmeunit

Ай бұрын

@@Snuckster2Or just buy stuff that is more reliable…

@PixelShade

Ай бұрын

​@@minecraftmike5193well, there's a switch underneath the button. You are not gonna spray the button, but the switch underneath. 😅 I updated my initial comment.

@PixelShade

Ай бұрын

​​@@farmeunitThe issue is that it isn't obvious what is reliable or long-lasting. In reality you won't know if it is a good product until you have had it for 5+ years. Mechanical buttons has a fixed lifespan and needs replacing, and they are also very prone to get weak if dirt and stuff gets into the mechanical part. I mean, we repaired a really good 20 year old Denon all-in-one, Hi-Fi stereo with contact cleaner. The only thing that was "broken" was an unresponsive eject button for the CD-Player. We supervised the owner to take the front panel apart and clean the contact area of the button. It worked flawlessly after that. Ultimately, no matter the quality of a product. Being able to do light repair is an essential life skill. Because even great products will fail.

i have one of these and it's never given me a single problem in my life over the past 3 years i've used it, it's also rly ez to modify because i can add some extra things to make it fit my hand better

It's cheap to buy replacement microswitches and easy to replace them. I've used a single G305 for about 7 years, and only replaced it a couple days ago for a G502 Lightspeed merely because I always wanted a G502, the G305 is still working with both primary buttons replaced for kailh gm4.0 switches and the scroll encoder was also replaced last year.

I had multiple Logitech mice and all, and one single of them had the same double-clicking issue, it's super common and almost like a feature sooner or later. Never bought anything from them since then.

@brucepreston3927

Ай бұрын

I know this is a common issue, but I have 4 logitech mice and none of them have had this issue so far...One of them I have used daily for 6 years now...I guess I have just gotten really lucky!

@Roman00744

Ай бұрын

@@brucepreston3927 nah, I've been using Logitech mice since the 90s so went through maaany mice over the years, not just Logitech but every time I tried another brand I later returned to Logitech, tried most of the Logitech range of mice, from the cheapest 200 series that are total crap and should never be used daily but usable on the go when you need to have something to control the PC to the MX master from the first 1 that was the second ever Logitech mouse to develop the double click to the 3rd one, most mice I used for many years before replacing, usually because I wanted something new and not because a problem with the mouse. I have a Logitech M510 that I used for 4-5 years then gave it to my Mom and she used it for another 3-4 years before the wheel button died but rest of the mouse is still fully functional.

@ArmoredForms

Ай бұрын

What have you switched to?

I have a G203 chorded. I absolutely absolutely love it

@deeplerg7913

Ай бұрын

G102 with the Mercury sensor here!

@dxrrk

Ай бұрын

i had one, still got it in a drawer, absolutely amazing mouse i wish it didn't have the left click issue

Hey Daniel, Do you have a recommendation for wireless mice (maybe more fit for gaming but inexpensive) that comes with a 2.4hz dongle? My logitech mouse made for everyday computing, double clicks now. Only had it for about 6 months I believe. Thank you.

what are you doing to your g305's?? i have had my blue one for two years now and it is lawless still xD i think it is a you issue or a where you buy yours from kind of deal

@Duduzaum

Ай бұрын

he mentioned other people on the internet have the exact same problem, and I'm one of them

I have had a G305 for literally since the month after it came out and it's still perfectly good condition after constant use over the years.

@faisalalqhtani3942

Ай бұрын

first batch seems to be golden quality because i also was waiting for mouse release on amazon the first day , i got my g305 on may 22 2018

@edwinooi9166

Ай бұрын

Same here, in where I am from it is also called G304. I bought on the moment I saw it appeared on online shops, it was so ahead of the supposed release schedule (like a week early) that Logitech didn't even show that they have it on their website for my country. At that time I was eyeing for any affordable mouse that came with the same sensor family and it was advertised that it had the same wireless tech that their flagship was using, all other mice that came with the sensor (some are even wired) costs 2x to 3x the price of my G304 that I knew I had to take the gamble (as at the time G305 only launched like 3 months prior in NA and there was no info on G304, still don't know why it was named differently but I wanted to avoid the G302 vs G303 situation).

@faisalalqhtani3942

Ай бұрын

@@edwinooi9166 I won't change this mouse if the buttons get weird for some reason am gonna change them

@intheairex

Ай бұрын

Same can't remember when I bought mine but I know I've had it for a long time

Logitech m570 user here with multi purchases

I remember back in the day (2001!), my first optical mouse was logitech. They've come a long way since then. People over 25 remember when tracking was done with a ball.

I have the exact same mouse/keyboard combo and I recently sent my G305 for OOW repairs to Logi - I had double clicks on LMB and back button. They fixed both for about half the price of a new unit, which is a pretty good price as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely no other issues with it so far.

G502 Lightspeed for me.

@trog69

Ай бұрын

How does the fast-scroll button hold up for you. I've been using the G-502 for years and love them, but that one button fails on most of the ones I've owned. Now, I try not to use it unless I have to.

@QuiteLunacy

Ай бұрын

@@trog69 Seems to be the most finicky part of the mouse by far. I also just leave it alone if I can.

I bought a G502 7 years ago. It's still going strong.

@GrainGrown

Ай бұрын

Same. It's a heavy boy, and still Logitech gave us even more loose weights in case we wanted it even heavier :D

@InOut-s

Ай бұрын

Mine had double clicked with less than 2 years of use. Changed to Kailh GM 4.0 switchs and runing it good, I belive it's around 2 years since the change. So this is my tip if you don't want to trash him when it fails.

@hoodiekid

Ай бұрын

Mine started after 4 years, stopped around a year after, i did no cleaning internally so what happened is good ​@InOut-s

@gameguy301

Ай бұрын

My first G502 is 8 years old and is starting to have double click issues, my second one is 5 years old. I just got 2 of the newer models where the key difference is it’s lighter and has a different switch for the clicker so hopefully these will last. The G302 and G303 however got double click in just a few years each, they die fast as fuck.

@fr0zen1isshadowbanned99

Ай бұрын

lol! I replaced mine 7 times in those 7 years xD Really. Once a year on average. I had one already give up after 4 or 5 Months. Mostly 6-18 Months tho... and I don't smash them on the Desk in Rage or Stuff like that.

Your setup where you put your home theater setup near your computer is about the same as mine, but I have my computer near where my desk is. Is there a need to put your computer so far away? Why is it on the other side of your room when your desk is on the opposite side? LOL Anyway if you have double clicking issues, maybe try opening one of your mice and spray/drip some lubricating oil of some kind directly onto the microswitches. Might solve the issue for quite awhile.

first g305 is piece of bang still hanging through my wicked use of years and years

I want Logitech to make a high-end / lightweight version of this

@nikola5413

Ай бұрын

there is shrouds g303 its very similar

@dahahaka

Ай бұрын

high end doesnt really make sense, but you should really do the AAA lithium battery, and toothpick mod! You get a mouse that's very much competitive with something like a G Pro Superlight

@reveil85

Ай бұрын

Logitech G Pro X Superlight (or Superlight 2) is the high end version of this. The bit that is different is the battery which is builtin - but this is absolutely crucial to keep the weight low. I have never been in a situation where the battery died on me. If it flashes red I just plug it in at the end of the day. You can use it for the whole day on low battery and a full one lasts me about 2 weeks before flashing red.

@anselminos5238

Ай бұрын

Logitech G Pro X Superlight doesn't have double click issues but after about 1,5 years of use the scroll wheel started to jump around because the scroll sensor can gather dust etc... but it was in my case fixable by just blowing air into it.

@dahahaka

Ай бұрын

@@anselminos5238 oh it sure does, both scroll wheel and double click issues are across the board with logitech

Based Daniel

How easy/hard is it to replace the switches with a new Omron/Kailh switch once it starts developing 2x issues? I used to have one of the g304 mice as a teenager and got so upset when it started to break since I never really mishandled it.

I do have the G304 and the solution I did with the double clicking is just change the switch. I opt with Linear Kailh Silent switch for just 7 bucks in total plus the labor for the professional who did the soldering. 2 years after, no double clicking for the longest time.

Last time I had Logitech mouse, the switches got double click after 1 month, and the wheel got rect after 3 months. Never again. On another hand, SteelSeries even in a budget range is absolutely solid.

americans with iPhones:

I'm exactly on the same boat as you. I've used the G102 (basically the wired version and even cheaper) and G305 for 8 years. I must've bought 3 or 4 G305. I used to just buy a new one once the double click got bad enough, but since the newest i bought, i found out just replacing the switch itself is way cheaper and will last longer if you buy good switch. So for the LMB, i asked my friend who had done it before, and for the RMB, i tried it myself (never soldered before). Now, the LMB has lasted 2 years of everyday almost 12 hours of use. So, consider replacing the switch itself to save a lot of money. There's some good youtube tutorial of how to do it!

I have the wired G Pro which is essentially a wired version of this and yeah I like it enough I bought spares too. The shape is perfect for FPS games and the scroll wheel lacking side scrolling or free-wheeling is actually a huge plus because it means middle clicking it feels so much better (and works more reliably) than it does with the usual scroll/tilt wheel mechanism logitech uses (having taken a few of those apart it's not surprising that they develop issues and feel a bit janky in general). I wonder if your problems with the buttons might be solved by spraying isopropyl into the switch, might be worth a try (I've also heard of people RMAing logitech mice for this exact issue and apparently logitech customers service is quite good, so there's that option too).

Its good but not suitable for large hands

@HourRomanticist

Ай бұрын

You can wrap your pinky around the right side so it faces backwards and doesn't touch your mouse pad. Other than that, grip between the thumb and pinky

@kxiju8531

Ай бұрын

Correct, I made the mistake of buying one and having to stick to it, the mouse is very small

@thedudely1

Ай бұрын

I was definitely surprised at how small it was when I got it

@evilleader1991

Ай бұрын

@@HourRomanticist That makes my hand cramp, doesn't help that the entire surface of the mouse has no grip (I know grip tapes exist but...)

@IVIRnathanreilly

26 күн бұрын

​@@HourRomanticistwhy work around shortcomings when you can just get a better product in the first place?

I wish I would've bought like a dozen Logitech MediaPlay mice back in the day. They doubled as a remote control, with buttons for media playback such as play/pause, rewind/fast-forward, volume, and two custom thumb buttons. They were perfect for videos and music, but they've been discontinued and new old stock goes for like $200. Anyway, they had the same problem as the G305 with the main buttons developing that double-click issue. And of course, Logitech's never going to fix a problem that results in people buying more of their mice.

I use these mice too. One is in my living room for use w/ an HTPC that's up higher on a shelf, and it doesn't have range issues. I've had the left click fail before on other mice, and probably bought this for $50. Didn't know about the price drops to $30, so good to know. Regarding the battery consumption, I use Powerowl 2800 mAh rechargeable batteries, which store more energy than traditional AA batteries. Whenever they eventually do die, I just swap in another freshly charged one. I can't remember the last time I had to replace the battery, so that does support your long battery life experience. I also have a keyboard that charges w/ micro usb. Maybe it's time to upgrade to one w/ usb c. A AA battery powered one would work for me as well, b/c I could just use more rechargeable batteries.

I bought a white g305 when i built my first modern pc in September 2021. I bought the little plastic adapter to make it use AAA's for weight savings and a 10 (maybe 12 not 100% sure) pack of energizer lithiums. That pack of batteries is still half full, and I NEVER turn it off. The scroll wheel is a bit beat up because I use mouse 3 for melee, but other than that, i have zero complaints, but I might grab a new one at $30.

I recently got this mouse and it has been the most expensive and the best mouse I've owned so far. I love it so far. I really like the sensitivity button.

nice hometheater setup , SVS speakers right?

Daniel Owen: The Foremost Mouse Expert giving his expert mouse advice.

I love this mouse as an accessory for my laptop. Totally agree with the recommendation. First thing I do is remove all the sensitivity toggles, too easy to accidentally click it, but it remembers the change so that's fine. Wouldn't use it as a main pc mouse tho!

I have a g305 for arround 5 years now and i changed it 2 or 3 times its literaly the best mice ever! I really like your channel dude i've just discover it!

I still use my G305, 3+ yrs. strong now. Still fully functional, no double clicking whatsoever.

Hey Daniel, You got the capability to catch people’s attention. You are good on screen. Good in teaching. Good in PC stuff. Bet you are good on your Gibson as well. Why not a short video of your guitar skills on you tube? As an interlude for the interesting gpu and pc stuff? Would make it even more dynamic. Good for the you tube graphs without making you a slave of google. (You made the right choice staying independent) Much respect and congrats with what you are doing here!

OMG I have had so many of those G series mice till now and all of them have experienced double click at least once in their lifetime. I am a heavy gamer so I face this problem quite often even after replacing them multiple time during the 2 year warranty mark. I have tried a bunch of mice but in the battery case the G series is still superior. But the ones I have settled now on are the razer mice. Though I am using a wired mouse now, the battery ones do last quit long though not as long as logitech as I have come to experience. You might want to consider the gen 3 mice from razer as they boast around 90 million clicks. They fancy optical switches and last much longer than the G series switches. I am very happy with these mice.

I noticed you have a couple office chairs (both different), any recommendations on ergo chairs for working from home? Been having some back issues and would like a good chair but not break the bank.

@danielowentech

Ай бұрын

The main chair you saw in this video is the the Flexispot C7 ergo chair, which is great for my back. I should mention that I received it as part of a sponsorship, but I do really like the adjustability and back support. I've turned down a ton of gaming chair sponsorships for example. Here's a link to the recently sponsored video with the segment discussing the chair: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymhrz9V6p9G9iJM.html Sponsored links/discount code: Use code ‘C730’ for $30 off on purchase on any C7! FlexiSpot C7 Premium Ergonomic Chair US： bit.ly/4aKBQ5c CA： bit.ly/47mO9Sd

Got this exact mouse in December, best in-hand feel of any mouse I’ve used

Hey! The soldering job can be a bit tricky, but as long as you have a soldering iron, some solder, cheap manual solder pump, and a couple of your preferred switches (4 if you wanna switch the side buttons), it is very possible to improve the experience of this mouse by a lot. I personally have Kailh Silent switches, since my mouse clicking drives my wife insane, after that we never had issues with the sound and I never had issues with the double click. Also I had experience with doing this mod with other mice, and G305 is much more beginner friendly in terms of ease of repairs.

If somebody has replaced the switches: can you get higher quality microswitches than the original? I think this uses basic Omron switches and those seem to be prone to failure because of dust getting into the switch.

I’ve bought these. 3 so far because one for me, one for my partner and one for travel / work. They are definitely repairable! I bought some Kailh Red switches and replaced the stock Logi switches when they started to fail. Been running perfectly now for 3X longer than the original lasted. They also have a nicer feel to them. The only other thing is I would recommend putting your hands on a Logitech Superlight (if you go for the V2, it has USBC charging instead of micro). It's a "gaming" mouse, but it has a nice profile like the G305. It's a lot, lot nicer to use. I didn't think it would be too much different but the light weight really makes it more comfortable for periods of extended use. It has an "eco" mode to stretch battery life, but it's a built-in Li-ion battery. Charging is really fast though and you can use it like a wired mouse for the less than an hour it needs to charge. I'm likely going to upgrade the battery for a larger one. It will add a small amount of weight but still nowehere near half the weight of a G305.

Have you considered soldering; replacing the faulty switches with better ones? Have you tried using those with an AAA to AA adapter, using Lithium AAA batteries? It gets a lot lighter, making it actually acceptable for competitive shooters.

This was and is somewhat still my GOAT. Super good wireless mouse. I'm using wired Glorious Model O now but I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Logitech G305.

Have you tried any of the other colors? Two of my friends have the more popular black one and they had to replace them through warranty. My theory is that if its more wanted/mass produced theres more chances for faulty components to sneak into one. Another friend has the lilac and I have a white one thats been going strong for ~3 years now. Not an actual scientific test, but might be worth a check. Also for battery powered good connection mice, I've been using a M650L as a beater for laptop and tv pc and it's been really nice, especially the quiet clicks. The M720's been pretty good too, but the hand-feel isnt as nice. The m650 might be a fun try if you dont care about gaming latency etc. Also in terms of more expensive mice, I think it gets tougher at the higher price point since every manufacturer drops the AA battery design. I feel llike I have to charge the GPX and GP and mxmaster 3 just so often (a month WITH rotated use). The g305 really is tough to beat honestly in versatility

The double clicking also eventually happens on my mouse too, the G503. The only reason I still use it is because I can typically get it for super cheap just like you. At this point though I'm open to more options and have been thinking of spending big boi bucks one of these days on a solid mouse that'll last me for a while.

I have two very similar wired models, both G203. I liked this model a lot, and bought a second one when it was cheap because I figured it would be good to have a replacement when the first one eventually fails... Unfortunately, the first one only lasted about two or three years before the buttons started malfunctioning. I would click and often nothing would happen, or I'd try to hold down the mouse button and it would be very inconsistent. I guess two or three years isn't horrible for a mouse which worked very well and didn't completely die yet, but I was really hoping that it would last a lot longer than that. My previous mouse lasted around 9 years, and was very inexpensive, and the only thing which actually failed on it was the mouse-wheel scrolling, which for me makes it still a worthwhile backup mouse. My first Logitech mouse was a three button ball-mouse that used a serial port, and it went strong for around 15 years and never died. I think I still have it in a box somewhere.

Shahzam, a former CS/Valorant pro, does this with G403/G703. He runs them into the ground until they start double clicking and then he buys more new ones. He currently has over 60 on hand.

I have had mine for 18 months or so now and I use it as my main mouse. I haven’t had any issues with double clicks, but I have heard it can happen quite frequently. This mouse is so good, I think I would be willing to open it up and solder in new switches if it ever happens though. I can’t find anything else on the market that has this great a shape and features for the money.

I have the same mouse and I concur with basically all of your points. Love the shape, size, battery life, wireless, etc. But just a month ago it started developing the unwanted double-click problem. Such a shame. Don't know if I will be getting another one, though I loved it while it was working as it should.

i've never had a doubleclick issue despite using these for years. the issue i do always have right out of the box is that the right click is waaay to sensitive and easy to trigger if you just rest your middle finger on it. i end up having to fold a little piece of tape and stick it under the housing to make it harder to press down.

My previous mice Logitech G Pro X developed double click after about 2.5 years, now I'm running G G502 X LIGHTSPEED (it have new type of switch with should prevent double click in the future) with is great mice, single charge last me about 5 weeks. For the keyboard I also have 915 TKL nearly 3 years and having no issue with it, if I have RGB off then i need to charge it about every 2 months with is great.

Yup have a 603 and tempted to buy another 2 to keep on the shelf. My only fail so far was the older model's scroll dying, but that was after years of all day every day use. Totally recommend the 603 to anyone wanting a robust dual battery gaming mouse that has absurd battery life and comfortable to use all day every day for years.

Repaired mine with TTC 80M gold switches. You can get some online with the board included, no need to solder. Just remove the old ones and plug in the new.

I have a similar set up with the same mice, highly recommend getting a usb extender + usb hub to have a lot more freedom with product choice and no latency

almost the same here. 2 G602 mice, a G502 lightspeed and a G502X and a bag of glide pads and switches to solder onto them. They always get the double click problem after a couple years.

Here in The Netherlands it has 2 years of warranty. I have a G604 and they replaced mine once, already. The second one didn't die yet, but I might buy another because they honored their warranty without complications and the mouse serves me well. I wish I could get a new Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 from MS even though the key's paint fades away shortly after you start using it, I can't find anything suitable to replace it with.

Having the same issue with the same mouse. Would you do a video about repairing the mouse?

I have the same experience with different Logitech mice, in the old days this didn't happen to the same degree. Planned obsolescence?

Using the G403 as we speak. Love the shape of it.

One of the alternatives is razer basilisk x hyperspeed that I'm using. It does have worse battery life and connection issues from time to time when waking from sleep (never in use though), but it's an ergo shaped mouse which to me immediately puts it above the G305. All in all, just replace the switches with higher quality ones and use rechargeable batteries and you're good to go.

Back in the day for Quake/Q3 the Microsoft WMO was like that. They were cheap as heck and quality control on them wasn't great, but when you got a good one it was very nice. And worth stocking up on.

Hey Daniel! If you have a bunch of G305s, it might be worth it to invest in rechargeable AA batteries. I got a pack of 8 from amazon and they get cycled through my controllers and other devices as well. I also much enjoy the G303 Shroud Edition and it's last 2.5 years now with no double clicking. It's a bit of a sharper G305, but I like how it kinda locks in your hand.

Ever considered going with the Logitech Powerplay mat with the G Pro Superlight 2 or G502X? You can probably plug the powerplay mat into the monitor next to the mouse and never have to worry about charging as well as having all the comforts you're used to with the Logitech Wireless tech

I have 2 305's and have used my first for a few years now and the second for maybe 1.5. never had any issues with them. Also picked em up for a $30 deal on Amazon

I think it is a Logitech thing, every Logitech mouse I have tried develops this issue. It doesn't matter how much or how little I spend. My personal favorite is the G502 because it fits my hand well but I really don't like g-hub software (it sometimes resets to defaults after an update) and have thought about switching to Corsair (I recently purchased Corsair headphones and really like the iCue software). Keep up the great content Daniel!

may be due to some light abuse, but my scroll wheel would go different directions, and my top side mouse button stopped working ON TOP of double clicks so. hopefully G502 is nice

I like G300s. Yes it’s wired but the buttons are still flawless after 5+ years, fits my hand and I need the 4 side buttons it has on the top side.

I honestly totally understand it since i also have like 3 Logitech 305 xD. I upgrade to a Logitech G303 and yes it is a bit bigger and weird to hold at first but i need to charge it like what 2-4 times a year? I didnt charge it yet this year and im playing alot of games where you kinda move the mouse alot so yeah maybe that could be an option for you. But keep in mind it is a bit bigger and a bit weird to get used to in the beginning.