SNS 182: Parting 316 Stainless, Shop AC, Broken Bolt Removal
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This week we have progress on the shop, the new AC has been installed! Maybe in a few more weeks construction will resume on the enclosure.
I have one broken bolt to remove at work I show you, and then I get busy on a small production run of 30 stainless discs for Brad Jacob over at Maple Lane Machine & Tool. His channel is / basementshopguy
Parting off 316 stainless can be challenging especially with tight tolerances. We were trying to get these done without the need of a second facing op.
Next weekend I'll be taking a trip over to some of the nice Florida State Parks and to visit my family. Videos to come of that trip.
Everyone who has been contributing through Patreon and other sources for the shop, thank you very much!
If you'd like you kick in a buck or so, check me out on Patreon. / abom79
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Parting a washer to the exact dimension is one of the hardest operations for me. I really like that you show the failures along with the success'. As always, I learn from and enjoy all of your videos. Thanks from Lake Havasu City, AZ
Liked the tip of how to knock off the burr in the vice! Thanks!
Lets clear the air on the silica block and orbiter tiles. The block Adam has is a material known as LI -2200. LI stands for Lockheed Insulation and the 2200 means the material weighs 22 lbs per cubic foot. As Adam said, the block he has is the bare silica which was manufactured into billets roughly the size of a briefcase, then it was cut into the rough machining size with a diamond bandsaw. those were then machined with a Hermle 5-axis milling machine using diamond coated endmills. The tile was then sprayed with a slurry made of boron silicide, glass frit among others. The tile was then fired In a kiln at 1800 deg F for a few hours which solidified the coating into what we called RCG. the resultant thickness was approximately .015 inch. The purpose of the coating was primarily to prevent erosion but it also provided critical thermal and optical properties as well. As far as touching a hot tile, it has to be grasped at the corners and the tile did not have the RCG coating applied. I still work at KSC building tiles, now for the Orion capsule, and have been doing it for 29 years. While I make them now, I installed them on the orbiters for 8 years, and have been a TPS system engineer for the last 21. Orbiter tiles were amazing parts and every one of the more than 22,000 of them per orbiter were installed by hand, and absolutely no two were alike. Each one had its own location on the orbiter. The positional tolerance was +/- 0.030 inch, the gaps between them was 0.019 to 0.050 inch, and the step between tiles could be no larger than 0.030 on the lower surface, which is where the highest heating took place. And Adam, the silica you have is ok to handle and use, just use common sense when handling it, and avoid creating and breathing any silica dust. Inhalation of Silica dust can cause silicosis, which isn't the same as asbestos, which can cause mesothelioma. To mitigate dust generation, you can spray the block with some clear VHT high temp header coating, it will reduce dust generation considerably and will not affect performance at all. BTW each tile was part marked using white VHT header paint, but it burned off after a few flights. Chances are you wont be exposing your block to temperatures close to those of re-entry! One more neat application of the LI2200 you have. It makes the worlds best wick.Cut off a small chunk of it and put it in a small metal jar lid and add some common lamp oil, then light the upper tip of the silica. It can be used indefinitely and the silica will never burn off. Good luck.
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great explanation and useful info for sure! I'll keep that in mind. I love the trick about the never wearing out wick!
@apfyts
6 жыл бұрын
Charlie, That's really cool. Thanks for sharing.
@cptbimes1
6 жыл бұрын
Interesting story and informative. Many thanks sir!
@charlieromeo7663
6 жыл бұрын
Sol Levi A note about tile densities. There were 4 densities used throughout the program. The vast majority (approximately 95%) of tiles were made from 9 lb density and measured 6x6 inches and anywhere from 1 to 2 inches thick. The higher density tiles were used in areas where stronger tiles were needed such as the perimeter of the landing gear doors. Since these surfaces moved, thermal sealing was required between the moving door and the fixed fuselage. These parts were called thermal barriers. They were hand sewn using quartz fabric, Quartz thread, and they were stuffed with a fluffy spun glass material that looked much like cotton. Others had an additional component called a spring tube which provided consistent sealing cycle after cycle and helped the barrier maintain its shape. These parts had very specific compression requirements such that once installed they would provide a tight seal to prevent plasma flow to the structure. As mentioned these higher density tiles were only used where absolutely needed. Despite the bashing and jokes about tiles that were lost, the real number was extremely low, I'd guess fewer than 20. Considering there were roughly 25,000 tiles per vehicle and 5 vehicles were built, that's well over 100,000 bonds, and that doesn't include the number of tiles that were replaced between flights. By program's end, Atlantis led the fleet by having the most original build tiles, about 92%, while Endeavour had roughly 89% original tiles. The workhorse of the fleet was Discovery, and she was somewhere in the middle of those two. Sorry to ramble, I just loved what we did and am so grateful to have been part of it. It really was an amazing ride. Thanks.
@FlintF
6 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness. Space travel has always been a part of my subjects of interest, and seeing Adam with that tile already blew me away. Reading your stories as an addendum to that is amazing to me. Thank you for taking the time to post!
Excellent tip on demurring with the vice, have not seen that before, will definitely give that a try
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Thought ya might like that one Gary!
@DSCKy
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was a good tip.
@sp1nrx
6 жыл бұрын
A pair of pliers works too.... the milling vise is a good idea.
@Travisfromoregon
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip I'm thumbs up on that !!
@andywander
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thanks for that one! I never thought of that...
Both the bolt removal and deburr of the slugs was very educational. Thanks..
I have been looking for a mouse just like the one you crushed for years!!! Just kidding :) Who says you can't teach a old dog new tricks? I am in my 60's and learn something with every video you make. Thanks Adam.
Using the vice jaws to sheer off the flash was clever, I wouldn't have thought of it! Cool!
Nothing more satisfying than smashing something that's been giving you troubles....Gotta love a dead mouse! Thanks for the video.
@papinkelman7695
6 жыл бұрын
Duncan MacKenzie Thats what we did when trouble began with my parents. More of a mess though.
@63256325N
6 жыл бұрын
Oh, now that's not right! lol
I would never have thought of de-burring them with the vice, like that. Brilliant!
16:26 the highlight of the day! Damn computers! The vice deburring tip made my day, thanks for that one Adam! I bet that new AC unit has enough oomph to do the entire shop, just add another supply & return duct!
The timing of the 'heat insulator' caption was hilariously perfect! Thank you again for the work you put in!
Nice to see the process of dialing in the operation. I hope you have an awesome trip next weekend. I guess hurricane Harvey missed you guys.
Thank you for this. I have a 316 stainless job coming up from a buddy and I'll take whatever instruction I can get. This was very informative!
Brilliant tip using the machine jaws to deburr the parting off waste. Many thanks!
Greetings from Poland! You are great.
Nice little truck for deburring. Small parts Thanks
Tks for the tip on the remaining burr, I had some .040 thick by .250 with a parting burr and had to face using a stop in a collet😃
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Yea it's a super simple trick. I didn't have anyone show me that one, just thought of it one day.
Smashing that mouse in the press was so awesome! You channeled a bit of "Office Space" there. Sometimes it feels cathartic to displace some frustration this way. Toward the end of my Ph.D., my labmates and I had teaching assistant duty for an undergrad lab class with soul-crushing homework and lab reports (that were equally soul-crushing to grade - processing a ~1500-page box of student work with a couple-day turnaround on the grades, over and over). It was the end of the quarter and we had a stack of the stuff that students hadn't bothered to pick up. We took some of it to the range, stapled it up there, and put .308 holes in it :)
have a good trip you 2 next week, good saturday special once again adam
Love the photo at the end all bundled up with ice and snow blowing out of the a/c!
I've never seen that before. What a good idea. Ill be using that one. Thanks Adam
Neat de-burring trick Adam, THANKS!
The vise sheering process is brilliant. Effective and uncomplicated. I had all kinds of weird processes in my head on how you might do that, but all mine were stupid in comparison.
I also like the tip on the deburring in the milling vise very slick. Asam, Thanks for the vid.
The trick with the dead blow hammer and vice was so simple it is in engineering parlance elegant. Thanks
Adam, What a GREAT idea for using the vice to deburr the inside. Amazing!! THank you! Eric
I grew up in Sarasota and Tampa, FL in the sixties, only a few stores and movie houses had AC (none in school or at home). Back then, I didn't know I was supposed to be hot and miserable. Those wall mount AC units are very popular in cellphone sites, we would mount two, and had temp alarms. The radio equipment and power systems generate much heat, so they are critical components, and generally run even in the Winter (just a bit less).
If you will take that Ashcroft thermometer and set it in a tall bucket of ice water(stirred briskly) you can then rotate the dial to 32 degrees to calibrate it.
good idea on the press for things that don't work as they should :-) i have been using hammer and anvil until now... ;-)
I love how easy you made deburring thanks mate
Another awesome video Adam, Thanks.
Brad is a happy guy ..LOL! We enjoyed Adam .. Thumbs up man ..
Nice to see the A/C working. I'm 100 miles south of Tampa and it's been a rough summer.
That 2" end mill from Dennis is a great bonus. Yes, agree - nice simple trick with the vise to deburr.
Keep the videos rolling. Always enjoy them :)
A/c looks good. Abby and u enjoy your trip. Time away from work is always good for. You two taking the black beauty on trip. Enjoy
I learn something new every day. I like your burr removal with the hammer and vice.
Really liked the video this week, Adam. And loved the deburring tip using the vise. I'll file that away for future use. Thanks!
Haha! Love the final image of "Abomalook of the North"! lmao Great to see the shop coming together. Patience is definitely a vertue. All good things come to he who waits. Cheers.
Video quality is outstanding !
Nice job Adam, great tips on the parting and deburr.
That was very good video ! Thanks for sharing with us sir
Nice, I enjoyed washing it (watching it), clever de-burr!!
Adam thanks man! Real cool to see em being sliced off. My South Bend was slowing down to a halt due to the rubbing with all that stick out. I definitely need a bigger machine to handle these types of jobs. Thanks again buddy!
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Now you can see what was going on when I text you I had a few bad ones. Hope you like them, most all have a great finish.
@MrMojolinux
6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't the original guy with the South Bend have used his tail stock for support and rigidity while parting, backing it out of the way when just about through to file and deburr?
@BasementShopGuy
6 жыл бұрын
Probably. Might have to try that in the future.
@MrMojolinux
6 жыл бұрын
South Bend Lathe...belt driven? Next time use/try "back gear".
@BasementShopGuy
6 жыл бұрын
The stick-out was the real culprit. Optimally, to part off the stainless with my carbide, you need RPMs. The belt causes some slippage but it was the stick-out that was the real problem. I had to push so hard to get it to bit into the cut. Plus for a nice finish the slow speed with carbide would have rubbed too much. My real solution is to get a bigger machine to handle the bigger work envelope.
Worth watching to the end!! I used pack units like that in radio shelters. They were super loud. Coupled with the blowers on the radios, I had to wear hearing protection to keep from going deaf. But man, they could cool down a space. Nice tip on shearing the burr. I was wondering how that would jump off there....
I laughed my A$$ off when I saw that picture of you in the fur suit!!! I was clueless as to how you were going to get those burrs off. I would have never thought of that trick with the vice! Another great show in the can! Enjoy your long weekend next week and thanks in advance for having and SNS on deck for us while you are away. Rich
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
I always take care of my viewers for SNS...:)
Every time I see one of those brand new cutters...I hear ching ching. I know it was a gift but the money invested in your shop or any good machine shop is almost ridiculous. Thanks Adam for letting us poor guys live vicariously through you and your shop man. Love your vids and teaching style.
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
The tooling is the most expensive part of the shop. I truly appreciate the support I get from my viewers on everything the give me.
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
I've said the same thing about electricians and plumbers, most of those guys charge nearly double what a big machine shop charges.
@Kennnny77
6 жыл бұрын
Well I'm a finnish carpenter...I do ok but yeah I get why you pay the big bucks per hour to a machinist. Either way I consider both an art. You guys work with metal and I with wood but slinging chips looks cooler lol.
@David-xl8zf
6 жыл бұрын
New 5 Axis CNCs run on about 200$ per hour. One scrap part and you´ll need to make five more, one crash, go sell your car and give the money to your boss.
@MWL4466
6 жыл бұрын
Measure twice, cut once.
Drinking a beer and watching some else throw chips is Damn nice.
I been to that same place when I was younger, back in the early 70's. Great work on that stainless....have a great trip next week...
thank you for the video adam
It's interesting watching someone do something you have done before. They washers I did were for Boeing and made from 17-4 stainless. I did have the advantage of a CNC lathe.
Very timely for me. Need to make about 50 threaded studs from 3/8-16 stainless steel all thread. Now I know how to do it.
Very cool. Thank you. I am hooked.
Love that AC !
Enjoyed and learned. Thanks man.
Hey another great video Adam. Finally got that cool air in there. That install looks great and what a COOL gift of the air conditioner. Always fun watching your videos, always something new to learn. Looking forward to seeing you and Abby next Friday - a lot of cleanup between now and then, LOL. See y'all soon! - Mark
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
No worries on the clean-up Mark! We're looking forward to the trip. I still haven't nailed down a time but I'll be working on that soon.
@johnferguson7235
6 жыл бұрын
Watch your electric meter after a couple days. You can guestimate how much juice you're using so you don't get shocked by the electric bill at the end of the month. Put as much insulation as you can afford in the new shop space.
Great tip Mr Adam
Can't wait to see the new shop addition completed. I hope you do your pad for your air compressor at the same time you do your other concrete work.
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is going to pour the pad for the compressor at the same time, and it won't cost anything extra really.
Man that AC s God like for Floridians. Maybe those boys in Darwin, Cairns or Texas may appreciate the AC but getting swap ass 24/7 ain't no fun. Great video and looking forward to next week.
broken bolt removal is an interesting process to watch...when done right it looks so easy...but if it gets messed up then not so easy.
Hi Adam, your videos are the highlight of my week. Having lived in Florida most of my life I would highly recommend you install a dehumidifier on the opposite side of the shop... not only will it aid wrt rust it will be even more comfortable during the humid summers and you can bump the temp up 3-4 degrees and feel great and save energy. I plumbed my home unit to directly drain and never have to touch the machine. Good luck, respectfully...alex
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Yep something I have wanted to do for a while, just never really think about it enough to go buy one.
Hi Adam. I never would have thought to use the vice to shear off the nub another reason I watch you is to discover " tricks of the trade". Way to go Adam. Another simple job done extremely well. Great video. Bill from Seattle.
Ooh! Edge Technology! ...bucket list ...
Ha Ha LOVED that image of you at the end, livin in the next ice age compliments of your new A/C!!!
Left hand drills, I have heard of them but never used them. I have to have a set of the. By the way, a previous video you showed some rubber gloves that you use when working on hydraulics. I ordered a box of xl and they are the first rubber gloves that actually fit me. I like Abby & your trips and relaxing time. Thanks Adam
Very satisfying watching the broken bolt backing out! Which was almost as satisfying as watching the disobedient mouse get its due! LOL
Hey Adam, I bet that AC is plenty big enough for both sides of the shop. You could probably run one duct through the wall and forget the window unit, and save some cost on power.
@davewood406
6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, looks like that window on that end might work out for that pretty well.
@chemech
6 жыл бұрын
Depends on the square footage, the solar load, and the relative humidity. Out here in California, we aren't that humid, so a 4 ton unit is fine for ~1,500 sqft of building unless you have a lot of south and west facing windows. Factor in the humid air of the Gulf Coast, and that same 4 ton unit doesn't cut it. There are load calculations in the ASHRAE handbooks for sizing the AC load for a building. Not too hard to do, and a local Mechanical Engineer with a Florida PE license can crank ou the load calculations fast and for a reasonable price. That'll pay for itself if you can get away with a smaller AC unit, or in Adam's case, if he doesn't end up needing to run the window unit on top of the fixed unit.
@davewood406
6 жыл бұрын
LOL, I knew my 18,000 BTU AC unit was small for the house(Moreno valley,1750sq/ft single story with long sides facing east and west, and vaulted ceilings). It lasted 20 years but the west bedrooms were always hot. Biding my time with window units until I can afford to fix it right. This has been a nasty summer.
@chemech
6 жыл бұрын
A cool, wet winter, followed by a hot, sometimes humid summer... Pasadena has not bee too bad, but in part that's because my little, old 1500 sqft is surrounded by mature trees.
@car9167
6 жыл бұрын
Oh! I have a 18,000 BTU in my 400sqft garage here in TX.
You may want to check out the look of stamped and dyed concrete for your patio. Little bit easier on bare feet than a plain brushed finish that most people do. The brushed works well for working areas, but I like a flagstone type stamp with a slight grey shade on white concrete for the dye where I have a living area.
Adam, one of the best signs of a good contractor is being busy. If someone can start tomorrow, you don't want them. Also, most good contractors who are small enough to give you a good price but big enough to do good work, don't advertise. Good word of mouth is worth more than gold in the contracting world. I know this because I've built my life long career on good word of mouth, not advertising.
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
This group of guys who's going to do the work don't advertise, they get if from referrals and have a good reputation. Right now they are working on a home remodel and he said 2-3 weeks before they can get on mine.
@shawnhuk
6 жыл бұрын
Abom79 best of luck, my friend.
Awesome trick with deburring with the vice jaws. Matt C
I wish the knuckle heads I work with knew to bring broken bolts back to the shop before they attempted to remove them.
Looking forward to the road trip. I'll pack clean socks and uh...you know, Greg.
Thanks for the vice tip
Don't catch cold from that AC. 😁 Just drying the air is a boost in comfort in humid climates. BTW: there's a song from the 1980's about the guy who installed your AC. Song by ABBA which starts something like "Do you hear the fans, Fernando?" 😎
Adam, I'm glad to see the a/c unit is working so well. I loved the segment with the press and the mouse. There have been times where I would have put my entire computer under that ram! Payback it great! Thanks for sharing your parting off of the SS washers. That must be tough stuff! I hope you and Abbie have a great Labor Day weekend! It seems like Summer just gets started and then it's coming to an end. Thanks again! Have a good one! Dave
add a ceiling fan about 3/4 way across the shop from the a/c unit, that will blend the air pretty good, be quiet and fairly cheap! :)
Nice job Adam don't forget Brads invoice .
I'm glad I wasn't drinking my coffee when I saw the last photo of Eskimo Abomb! I laughed that hard I would have choked!!!
Sorry, just started watching you recently. Love the videos.
Very good job on the stainless parting job. I would have been a nervous wreck by the last one. Also love the Eskimobom pic during the closing credits. Take care.
Eskimo Adam! That's funny!
Adam and machines like the AC too!
I hate it when someone comes to me with a "broke it off in your hole" and they have already stuffed it up by trying themselves to save some money! All that has happened is it costs MORE! Especially when they leave a challenge behind like a broken drill! Extractors broken are not too bad as usually they are just carbon steel, drills in HSS are more of a problem. Nice easy one there Adam, clean and not rusty. Also something that could be done in the shop on a Machine, as opposed in someones engine bay or other difficult spot! Cheers from John, Australia.
Like the use of non-tec extruded, coated soft metal rod in the tail stock. Clothes hanger so it seems. Good practices.
Hey man -- "Expectations are premeditated resentments." Sounds like you've found a straight up contractor. There are some, and they've good people to know.
If you like swimming at wakulla springs, try vortex springs, and you can scuba there too :)
Yep that mouse is dead... and had a laugh over the polar picture !
ditto on the deburring using vise. I always use duck bill pliers and tear it off.
You might wanna save that heat tile and buy some fire brick. Great video Adam!
Thanks for the video Adam! Hope the weather is good in Florida, My brother and i are coming in two weeks, it's starting to get cold here in Sweden :)
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Good today, just the typical summer time weather we've been having.
Great video Adam! Bet ole' Rucker would like to have some A/C about now! Loved the "parting shot" with Eskimo getup! LOL You should build an igloo in the shop and really rub it in. A comfortable shop is a happy shop I say, and I don't blame you one bit for A/C, but I am jealous.
Brilliant idea on the deburring using the vice! I am amazed at how sharp your cutters, drill bits etc are! Nice coils of metal coming off. When you mill round stock, the metal comes off like a waterfall! Nice on the A/C! I wish my little garage had A/C! I'm a fat guy and sweat a lot when I work! LOL. It's so good for you to take some time off of work! Can't wait to see video's of your trip with Abbey (sp?) Since talking to you, I have picked up some more Starrett tools and watch Craigslist like a hawk. I also bought some Cobalt steel drill bits and use my other ones for wood. They are sharp! Makes life easier with good tools. I like the thermometer, although if it's a fever checker, I would be frightened to see the doctor come out with that! And finally, great photoshop at the end! I love it! Have a great weekend.
"Next week I have some heavy turning work, you guys might enjoy that" Really? We "might" enjoy it? Come on dude, you know it will be a big hit!! lol ... i saw your teaser vids on instagram/facebook... Congrats on having the shop AC. Another good SNS.
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
I know you understand the importance of having that "climate control" in tha shop!
The stainless screamer!
I need some left handed drills, been wanting a set for some time. Nice job on the SS washers, stainless can be very picky when cutting that's for sure. Great job as always Adam SteveSummers
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
Holy Mackerel....an "Abom size" thermometer......of course!
Your forgot to say "annd heere we gho" when you crushed the mouse!
I'm jealous of your AC shop. I had a small unit years ago and it quit. I never replaced it. My shop is miserable in the hot/humid summers. Looks like it gonna have to get a new unit to keep up with Jones'(Booth's). LOL
@Abom79
6 жыл бұрын
Gotta do it man! Part of the investment, for me anyways!
Thanks for another great SNS! The Eskimo Adam with hot chocolate had me laughing out loud, priceless!
I think I have some of that space foam stuff in my basement, but I don't want to mess with it in case it's not. It looks just like it, hard, a little dusty, same color and everything. My grandfather bought a lot of NASA surplus so it's very possible. I'll have to look a bit more into what they are, they'd do great for heating things on.