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SMS Helgoland - Guide 023 (Human Voice)
The Helgoland class, Germany's second dreadnought battleships, are today's subject.
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We Just found some Weeks ago in the storage of my fathers House some old stuff, and found out, that my grandgrandfather was a seaman on the SMS Helgoland. So I am realy happy to found that vid! Thanks a lot
@harrylor66
Күн бұрын
My great-granduncle was on ‘His Majesty's Ship Oldenburg’. I still have the picture of this elegant ship, lined with mother-of-pearl and painted behind glass, thickly framed in wood. It hangs on my wall. I also have a very long panoramic painting (print) of the Kiel naval harbour with the imperial fleet, e.g. ‘Von der Tann’, as well as torpedo boats and the imperial yacht ‘Hohenzollern’ A triple ‘Hurrah’!😁
When i was a child, my family made a "Butterfahrt" to Helgoland. On the trip back we had a pretty strong storm and literally all passengers including my mother throwing up - except my late father and me. Was much fun.
I love the Ostfriesland simply for the fact that I live in the german region of Ostfriesland (eastern frisia). Beautiful ship, beautiful region and I wish it would still exist. Same for the Emden, a ship named after a town in Ostfriesland
@akessel92train
Жыл бұрын
If you knew how to dive you could do so with ostfriesland.
My grandfather was the head cook on the Helgoland and served at the Battle of Jutland. He was also present at the war end's mutiny..
They were quite a pretty line of ships, I like them.
Pumping out videos like the Americans pumped out so much ships during WWII
@screamingcrane8187
5 жыл бұрын
liberty ships want to know your location
@claypidgeon4807
5 жыл бұрын
Pumping out absurd amounts of high-quality products that proceed to sweep right through their objectives? Yeah, sounds like late-war American shipbuilding.
@screamingcrane8187
5 жыл бұрын
@@claypidgeon4807 "high-quality" as the Internet police I forbid this post.
@screamingcrane8187
5 жыл бұрын
@@claypidgeon4807 as the internet police I`m always right
@jacobmccandles1767
4 жыл бұрын
Clay Pidgeon, come now, this is the comments section. You're not allowed to make positive comments about the Americans!
Three video in one day thank you Drachinifel-senpai
Just want to thank you for all of your hard work researching this topic. I recently got very interested in naval history and this is the gold mine of that.
Holy shiet, 3 videos in a row?!?! I must be dreaming now
Please tell us more about the ship canvases because I often seen them on ships especially of the late victorian era to the start of the Great war. One reason why I believed it was used was to confuse enemy range finders when you put it in-between the funnels. Additionally, please tell us the different types of paint used in the late victorian era to the start of the great war. One thing that I don't know why is for example the germans painted the super structure and upper parts of the hull in a brownish colour and the rest white e.g. SMS Scharnost. And navies such as japan,russia and france had white, black and a brownish colour painted on them. Finally, please tell us about why especially pre-dreadnoughts and ships of the great war had so many rigging and things, such as the many ropes visible on images, wire/rope fences that are erected when not in combat when compared to ships of the second world war.
@petlahk4119
5 жыл бұрын
Your question was answered in the latest Q&A, by the way.
@zaviershiloh433
3 жыл бұрын
I know Im randomly asking but does someone know a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I somehow lost the login password. I would love any help you can offer me!
@trentonkabir441
3 жыл бұрын
@Zavier Shiloh Instablaster :)
@zaviershiloh433
3 жыл бұрын
@Trenton Kabir Thanks for your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@zaviershiloh433
3 жыл бұрын
@Trenton Kabir it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thanks so much you saved my account !
I really like the symmetry of the Helgoland class in the way how the turrets and funnels are placed.
I'm gonna perfectly honest. I came here to learn about Thuringen. Because I love the shipgirl Thuringen! Thks Drach.
Best way to start my morning
Three videos in one day. Words fail me.
Love it, three today!!
Great work, Drach!
Three in one day. Don't tire that golden voice out Drach, we need our regular dose of history. So the Nassau V2 class lol Better ships but still with a cumbersome turret arrangement. I say Billy Mitchell's demonstration did more harm to the aircraft lobby by his ridiculous and very obviously rigged attack, not to mention his assertion that it's easier to hit a ship underway than it is a stationary target. At the end experts said your could have sunk the BB with a carpenters hammer by smashing the porthole glass. His heart, and perhaps mind, were in the right place but he was too determined to win and ended up shooting himself in the foot. As Italy proved in WW2, high altitude level bombing is not the way to sink ships underway. Dive or torpedo is the way to go
Impressed me that the Japanese simply sold the ship for scrap. It amazes me how quickly the Japanese became a modern Naval Power, modern Military Power and modern economic power. Those were nice looking Dreadnoughts to me.
Idea for another Drachinifel video: the March 18 1915 naval battle between Britain and the Turks. This was an attempt to force the Dardanells (sp?) by naval force, but was not pursued aggressively. Churchill, in his World Crisis book, spends a fair deal of time on the 'what if' of this action, and his take is fascinating.
Love to know more about the USS Long Island, and the USS Ranger thx
@michaeldy3157
2 жыл бұрын
Me too , original Maine too.
Last sentence was pretty powerful
SMS Legoland? What? (wakes up)
The fact there is no Lego set for this ship annoys me...
@535phobos
5 жыл бұрын
LEGO doesnt make war sets. Cobi does, but they obviously start with more famous ships (Bismarck, Warspite and Yamato), but I still hope for some WW1 ships in the future.
@a.morphous66
5 жыл бұрын
Rahbar Al Haq LEGO doesn’t make war toys. That’s just about their main philosophy. The only weapons they’ll ever depict so long as their management retains that philosophy are fictional ones.
@josephlongbone4255
3 жыл бұрын
@@535phobos but there are Lego spitfires?
@535phobos
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephlongbone4255 Not that I know of. They made a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Dr I. Any other war equipment usually comes from, like, Indiana Jones. They even canceled their Osprey when they found out that some of them (*cough* almost all...) are used in the military and Boeing apparently sometimes builds equipment for war.
@josephlongbone4255
3 жыл бұрын
@@535phobos Interesting.
Fun fact: In the Aftermath of WWII the British tried to blow up the island (or strangely inhabeted uninhabitable rock in the middle of the ocean) of heligoland (after witch the class was named after) entirely. It was not resettled until 1952. Seems like someone regretted a deal made in 1890.
@benwilson6145
4 жыл бұрын
The British used the island as a store to destroy surplus/captured mainly Naval munitions.
@Brot1984
3 жыл бұрын
@@benwilson6145 But “destroy“ in this case means causing the at that time strongest non nuclear explosion in history. That explosion was approximately half as strong as the Hiroshima bomb.
He likes these a lot more.
As rigged as Mitchell’s test was, he did eventually get vindicated that aircraft would render battleships obsolete (though he was wrong about airpower rendering the entire navy obsolete)
@TheAnxiousAardvark
5 жыл бұрын
Well, in his defense, the USN did appear to rig the test against the bombers. Further away from the airfiields than need be, Only two maximum size bomb hits allowed per BB. No aerial torpedoes allowed. After every hit USN observers would go aboard and evaluate, forcing "attackers" to circle, burn off fuel and, in some cases abort their attacks because of lack of fuel. That the Ostfriesland succumbed to flooding and ruptures in the hull and might have survived is a nice talking point. :)
@hmshood9212
3 жыл бұрын
Swedish and Swiss AA: “Allow us to introduce ourselves.” TDS and Deck Armor: “Belay that! Prepare for trouble and make it double!”
@bkjeong4302
3 жыл бұрын
@@hmshood9212 AA fire is honestly overrated as a defence; even late-war (1945) American AA was only about half as effective as fighter screens in stopping air attacks, and with other nations or earlier in the war the disparity between AA and airpower was even more extreme. It's more that due to all the archival footage of AA fire, people get impressed by the flashy AA firepower and think that was the best defence against air attack in WWII, when this isn't remotely the case. And this doesn't change the problem with battleships not being able to shell a carrier (unless it's either incompetent or a CVE, and even then the battleship still has to find the damn thing in the first place before it find the battleship)
@themanformerlyknownascomme777
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAnxiousAardvark do you realize he was literally advocating for the removal of the US army and Navy and replacing them with just the US Air Force (under his command to boot). A more insane con man there has never been
@TheAnxiousAardvark
3 жыл бұрын
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 And? No more insane than SAC, MAD, "nothing but ICBM's", "the bombers will always get through" or "Plan Orange", "The decisive battle", Barbarossa, Maginot Line... or many, many other military ideas over the centuries. Your point is valid. But it doesn't invalidate mine. Cheers.
Drachinifel, how did navies such as imperial Germany and the early steel US Navy come up with designs? Did they just copy what Britain and France were doing or were other factors at play? There was no pinned post for drydock when I posted this.
Triple upload
A nice 20.000 FreeXP - "Freemium" for the German branch in Wows :) But first we need - 12 Soviet cruisers and - 18 US-battleships
@themadhammer3305
5 жыл бұрын
If this did become a Freemium I would absolutely spend as long as was necessary to unlock it lol
@themadhammer3305
5 жыл бұрын
If this did become a Freemium I would absolutely spend as long as was necessary to unlock it lol
Nice video
Couldn't the Entente nations just have sold the german ships they have taken to minor nations except of wasting them for target practise ? I am sure that Greece would have been very fond to have one of these ships.
@Weesel71
5 жыл бұрын
I believe the "revenge factor" was heavily at work.
Consider a video on Scandinavian coast defense ships
Hi! Could you make a video about the Finnish Coastal Defence ship Ilmarinen?
@burkhardtniec3653
3 жыл бұрын
He did just so you know.
Review HMS Splendid 😎
I grew up in Oldenburg. Waaaay too many wealthy hippies.
Well, sorry to be that guy but since no one else has pointet out how you butchered Thüringen's name yet... (The 'h' is silent, with emphasis on the 'ü') But your pronounciation ist pretty damn good overall. Especially not turning 'ü' into 'u' like most people do is a rare thing to hear ;)
@esbenandersen5706
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's extra noticable when Drach usually does a good job, when he then botches it, og stands out.
@pocketdynamo5787
4 жыл бұрын
His German pronounciation is outstandingly good in general, though. Apart from the "th"-thing, the only minor thing to complain about is the emphasis in "Ostfriesland", which you would put on the "fries" instead of the "Ost", as he does. You'd only emphasise the "Ost" to distinguish it from the other parts of Friesland, Nord- or the Dutch Westfriesland. Apart from that, it's very good. Which is rare with native english speakers.
SMS Legoland
Hello, My grandfather was chief navigating officer on USS RANGER CV-4. 1941-1946 I would really appreciate help getting knowledge about the vessel. I have spent the past few months researching the vessel and him. PLEASE I have watched almost all your videos. You do wonderful work!
It's a bit startling to think that substantial numbers of dreadnoughts didn't start to come on line until just a couple years before the start of WWI.
Please make also video speaking about modern ships and submarines
I wish the audio was a bit louder
How many of the German fleet's ships sank in Scapa Flow? I remember reading something about the fleet scuttling itself, for some silly reason I thought it was all of them. Obviously it wasn't.
@richardcutts196
5 жыл бұрын
Not all the fleet was at Scapa Flow. There were 74 German ships at Scapa Flow and 52 of them were successfully scuttled. There's a good book on the subject. Cox’s Navy: Salvaging The German High Seas Fleet at Scapa Flow 1924-1931.
@karldubhe8619
5 жыл бұрын
@@richardcutts196 Ty, 22 of them weren't successfully scuttled? Oh, this has to be one of the future presentations by Drach. It's got to be. :) I'll look up the book, if it's not available at the public library, I'm sure I'll find it at the university's library.
@richardcutts196
5 жыл бұрын
It is only about $7.50 on kindle, if you are interested.
@karldubhe8619
5 жыл бұрын
@@richardcutts196 I prefer to pinch the penny until it screams. then pinch it some more. :)
@richardcutts196
5 жыл бұрын
Normally, I do too. If you look hard enough you may find a PDF version of Cox's Navy, on the internet. I found it a few years ago, and that's what I've been reading until I bought the kindle version today. A good source of cheap kindle/ nook books is Bookbub, and early bird books. Though Amazon has a good selection for under $2 as well. So many books, so little time.
Have u anything on south African ships
All of the German vessels look like they ride really low in the water. Their freeboard is so low it's as if even a calm sea could swamp them.
*misreads title* Heh... SMS Legoland...
Not shure of anyone has asked this before but if it could be mounted in a battleship or I guess it would be a dreadnought at the time would the Paris gun be a effective gun because I think its exceptional range/muzzle velocity might be very useful
@redlinemusic1608
5 жыл бұрын
No, the issues of the size of the gun will be a pain
@ballzdeep6974
5 жыл бұрын
@@redlinemusic1608 the liength of 111 feet certainly would be but I think that can be worked around the caliber though isnt actually that large at 211mm or the rebored 238mm version
@themadhammer3305
5 жыл бұрын
Possibly it would be useful if mounted on a monitor such as the ones the British built during ww1. The size of the gun would likely make it unsuitable to be mounted in a turret, but it might work in an open or fixed mount
@dubsy1026
5 жыл бұрын
But then all you have is a giant gun, which cannot be effectively used to its full range with naval fire control, so the only advantage is velocity, since the shell wouldn't even do much damage.
@redlinemusic1608
5 жыл бұрын
@@ballzdeep6974 i feel like the other comments did a better job of explaining the issues than i ever could
If Billy Mitchell had been a crackpot or wrong, they would never have named the B-25 after him! You don't see any bombers named the Doolittle and he was a hell of a flyer...
@themanformerlyknownascomme777
3 жыл бұрын
he wasn't a crackpot, just a con man. He claimed that the plane not only battleships obsolete, but all naval vessels and the army to, and that the US Military should just turn into a giant air force (under his command of course).
Feed the AlGoreRythm!:-) 🖖
Another "human voice"in the title. Why
@merobo5066
5 жыл бұрын
Because these are re-releases of videos originally recorded with text to speech, as you can tell from the low numbers (the latest new guide was 122, ). To distinguish them from the original releases, the "(Human Voice)" is added to the title. If I'm not mistaken, he also adds "(TTS)" to the old guides.
@mazack00
5 жыл бұрын
Me Robo ... It doesn't make sense to put "human voice" on the new videos as it only confuses and drives off people like me. Better to label the old ones differently and simply titling these without the obfuscating text.
In German language there is no TH so Thüringen it is not spoken Süringen it is Tueringen.
But but but it was made of German steel
60th comment
It is unfortunate that Kaiser William the second decided to go to war over the death of the Austrian royal. All that time, effort, money, and energy spent building up a world class navy to have it all stripped away by the British because Germany was on the losing side of that war.
It is very easy to judge history in hindsight.... you are guilty of that. In the future, be mindful.
@sarjim4381
5 жыл бұрын
How would one judge history except in hindsight? What exactly do you object to about Drach's conclusions? A comment like yours is so free of any details it borders on trolling.
@claytonis1
5 жыл бұрын
@@sarjim4381 You are supposed to judge history given the context of the time. You are supposed to ask, "given what those people knew at the time, was their decision logical and/or how did they validate the action they took?" You learn lessons of what to do or not do, historically, given hindsight. To judge the past with full knowledge of the outcome is arrogant and lazy. I like Drach's videos. I was offering constructive criticism. I wasn't trying to attack Drach. If you read it that way, you are incorrect. But you can call me a troll if you'd like. I'm not bothered in the least with what you think.
@westcoaststacker569
5 жыл бұрын
My ignorant opinion is that Drach normally explains why that nation made their decisions based on their needs and location. He does have British pride though but who is totally unbiased?
@claytonis1
5 жыл бұрын
@@westcoaststacker569 It is the duty of any historian to do their level best to NOT be biased. I feel like my critique was pretty gentle. I didn't call Drach a liar, or an idiot, or even biased. We all need people to "check our work" from time to time to help keep us grounded and to do the best we can. That's all I was trying to do. Besides, he's a big boy. If he has in issue with my criticism, he can respond to me directly. You don't have to defend him from a comment that was never intended as an attack.
@westcoaststacker569
5 жыл бұрын
I believe your comments were fair. I was just defending Drach from my perspective. Please do not get defensive with me I am in no way implying that you were unjust. Sorry that the short snippets we type here can be easily misinterpreted.