HMS Agincourt - Guide 006 (Human Voice)

HMS Agincourt, a ship that went through many hands before ending up in the Royal Navy, is looked at today.
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  • @josephdedrick9337
    @josephdedrick93374 жыл бұрын

    Funny, he apolgizes for being over 5mins in this, and nowadays he pumps out 2hr long vids like its a 5min vid with no remorse

  • @moseszero3281

    @moseszero3281

    4 жыл бұрын

    He just learned that people would like to have info more than a time limit.

  • @sadiqmohamed681

    @sadiqmohamed681

    4 жыл бұрын

    And the 2Hr long vids are Q&A's

  • @alanmcclenaghan7548

    @alanmcclenaghan7548

    3 жыл бұрын

    Treats 5mins like the Japanese treat naval treaties.

  • @aidentoscan1768

    @aidentoscan1768

    3 жыл бұрын

    *6 hour videos

  • @brendanharlan8262

    @brendanharlan8262

    2 жыл бұрын

    i dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a way to log back into an instagram account?? I stupidly lost my account password. I would love any tricks you can offer me!

  • @grahamr4916
    @grahamr49165 жыл бұрын

    Agincourt: the ship that has almost as many names as it does gun turrets

  • @mikepette4422

    @mikepette4422

    3 жыл бұрын

    Turrets like Zah Zah Gabor had husbands ! Oh thats one for the old folks here

  • @peterdavy6110
    @peterdavy61104 жыл бұрын

    The Agincourt's turrets weren't designated "A" "B" "P" "Q" etc but were called (starting at the bow) "Sunday" "Monday", Tuesday", " Wednesday", Thursday", "Friday" and "Saturday" (at the stern).

  • @WalkaCrookedLine
    @WalkaCrookedLine5 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE the still pic at 2:07. A submachine gun, two pistols, at least three different kinds of grenades, and just because that assortment isn't silly enough, some rifle cartridges that clearly won't fit any of the guns he's carrying.

  • @LostShipMate

    @LostShipMate

    4 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know where to find that picture?

  • @LostShipMate

    @LostShipMate

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sparky Puddins Already found it. Just google "heavily armed Russian".

  • @LostShipMate

    @LostShipMate

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Sparky Puddins oh . . . I get it now if that helps.

  • @Ushio01

    @Ushio01

    3 жыл бұрын

    Carrying ammo for the machine gunner or anti tank rifleman was pretty common at the time.

  • @aussiejezza

    @aussiejezza

    2 жыл бұрын

    As much you want to be you'll never be Ppsh, 6 different grenades, two revolver pistols with rifle Bandoleer, Russian winter coat and Ushanka cool

  • @iatsd
    @iatsd5 жыл бұрын

    Fun factoid: when British shipyards built a ship all the hundreds and hundreds of name and instruction plates for the equipment etc were made with English on one side and the language of the ship buyer on the other. This was done because it was easier for the fitters to put the right plates on the first time. Agincourt had all the Portuguese/English plates ripped out and replaced with Turkish/English plates. When the RN took over the ship all the plates were pulled out again and flipped over to English.

  • @ZerokillerOppel1

    @ZerokillerOppel1

    4 жыл бұрын

    So the Agincourt became even more expensive then...

  • @iatsd

    @iatsd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZerokillerOppel1 AFAIK, Britain never paid for the Agincourt as it was intended for the Turks. Besides, the Brazilians sold it to the Turks - the Turks would have to complain to Brazil about a refund after the UK seized it. It was a gloriously ridiculous ship.

  • @johnlavery3433

    @johnlavery3433

    4 жыл бұрын

    They also had to replace all the toilets twice since the Turks perfered squat toilets

  • @sadiqmohamed681

    @sadiqmohamed681

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johnlavery3433 If I may quote from Richard Hough's “The Big Battleship” Michael Joseph Ltd., 1966. Page 152 "Day by day the ship began to assume a more familiar, a more British guise. The same plumbers who six months earlier had replaced the Brazilian latrine fittings with the exotic yet somehow indecent “squatters”, were now employed, on overtime and through the night, in wrenching them out again, sealing off the cold taps and securing paper-holders, and re-equipping them with proper Western sanitary equipment, varying from the highest quality decorated water closets for Captain Nicholson, down to the standard service issue for the ratings."

  • @Praxics0815
    @Praxics08155 жыл бұрын

    SMS Goeben is a story about missed opportunity. She survived till 1973 (!) when she was scrapped. Afaik the ship was offered to Germany to be bought back and there was a privately driven campaign to bring it home as a museum ship but the private campaign didn’t secure funding and the government wasn’t interested. So she went to the scrap yards. If I’m correct she would have been the only surviving Battlecruiser of her time today. SMS Seydlitz would go on to survive the Battle of Jutland in the most astonishing way: Sailing in reverse to not sink itself.

  • @jehb8945

    @jehb8945

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Goeben/yavuz sultan selim was one of those ships I wish they would have preserved as it would have been a great little chunk of naval history as it stands the only dreadnought battleship that exist that is not on the bottom of the ocean is the USS Texas which I'm not complaining about but it would be amazing to have something from the early days of dreadnought battleships

  • @MauserKar98k

    @MauserKar98k

    4 жыл бұрын

    Really sad and pathetic that Germany would decline to preserve its Imperial naval legacy like that, but in the '60s and '70s, Germany had other priorities..

  • @friday3810

    @friday3810

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well the ship that died the first shots of ww1, the austro hungarian river Monitor SMS botrog, is still afloat, but is terible Condition, used as a barge in serbia and none is willing to have her. So much history that none care for it's a shame

  • @albertoswald8461

    @albertoswald8461

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Goeben would be the only battlecruiser in existence period!! (Well, at least above water!) In fact I believe when HMS Renown was scrapped in the late 40's the Goeben/Yavuz was the last battlecruiser in existence until her scrapping!

  • @gernhard.reinholdsen

    @gernhard.reinholdsen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MauserKar98k still today, german self-image is in such a bad shape, there are so few people appreciating their own history. It's sad!

  • @jpjpjp453
    @jpjpjp4535 жыл бұрын

    For various reasons, my all time favorite dreadnought. She was described as "a floating magazine with a tremendous volume of fire as her best protection".

  • @lawrencewestby9229
    @lawrencewestby92294 жыл бұрын

    "Hmm, are you sure we can't squeeze another turret or two in there? There appears to be some deck space without a turret, we can't waste valuable deck space like that."

  • @Kakarot64.

    @Kakarot64.

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have you finished installing the turret on top of the smokestack yet?

  • @mikepette4422

    @mikepette4422

    3 жыл бұрын

    what about UNDER the hull ? lots of space down there

  • @ThatSlowTypingGuy

    @ThatSlowTypingGuy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what an Agincourt WW2 refit for use in the Pacific would look like?

  • @lawrencewestby9229

    @lawrencewestby9229

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have another question. How did they ever find enough room for the engineering spaces with all the magazine space they needed to feed all those guns?

  • @Andrei613

    @Andrei613

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatSlowTypingGuy In a word: Absurd. A 21 knot 12 inch gunned ship by 1940 was pretty much worthless in any fleet actions. Note that the only such battleship operated by a major power was Arkansas, and she only did gunfire support missions. And, she was kept away from the Pacific until 1945.

  • @vespelian5769
    @vespelian57695 жыл бұрын

    I had an ancestor who served aboard HMS Agincourt as a petty officer at Jutland, a cousin of my paternal grandmother. My German great grandfather was a Swedish born German who served in the German navy aboard SMS Koenig at Jutland. After the mutiny he emigrated to the southern USA. Agincourt has her own biography: The Big Battleship by Richard Hough. I'd love to obtain the crew lists for these two ships.

  • @Dilley_G45

    @Dilley_G45

    4 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather was on SMS König as well!!! People don't believe me usually for the simple reason of age...but he was very young when he volunteered in 1914 and he was a fairly old man when he became a dad for the last time. I'm in my 40s now. If you want crew lists...I suggest the Federal German Archive as a starting point. A lot of the German Army archive was lost in WW2 in some senseless last minute terror bombing. I do have a rare book with a crew list of a few submarines. Also you could ask the German "Marinebund" for help. Further there are active and retired Naval officers in the Naval Amateur Radio Club ... So there are multiple avenues....hope this helps

  • @sadiqmohamed681

    @sadiqmohamed681

    4 жыл бұрын

    I recently bought a copy of that book on eBay. A long time ago I owned it, but that copy has disappeared. It is both fascinating and enlightening. A very good read.

  • @giklab
    @giklab5 жыл бұрын

    >Duration: 13:37 Excellent

  • @den_t5661
    @den_t56615 жыл бұрын

    Last time i was this early, the USS Texas wasnt rusting

  • @1TruNub

    @1TruNub

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shes not Rusting now

  • @riquihess1299

    @riquihess1299

    5 жыл бұрын

    yea

  • @charliekk3377

    @charliekk3377

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey be nice lol

  • @kyle857

    @kyle857

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@1TruNub nope, now she is sinking:-(

  • @1TruNub

    @1TruNub

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kyle857 no she aint

  • @JurgenADV
    @JurgenADV5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, thank you for Human voice. Sooooooo much better.

  • @Sukerkin

    @Sukerkin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely... the fellow has a witty writing style and an excellently dry presentation :thumbs up:.

  • @spacecase13
    @spacecase132 жыл бұрын

    At the 7:01 mark "This resulted in a ship that looked more like a turret farm than a battleship in the traditional sense." had me howling with laughter. So many guns, and in such an odd configuration.

  • @andrewhammel5714

    @andrewhammel5714

    Жыл бұрын

    It wasnt the biggest battleship in the world. But its freakish layout of seven primary turrets gave it the heaviest broadside weight of any warship when it was built, if I am not mistaken. More than 13.5 inch gun ships of the day. It wasnt until mid First World War when the Brits came out with the 15 inch Queen Elizabeth class were there normal ships with a heavier broadside weight.

  • @ottaviobasques

    @ottaviobasques

    9 ай бұрын

    Well, turret farms were certainly a big piece of battleship history, that's why we need to preserve the last of the turret farms (which is a official designation if I'm not mistaken), the long living Texas.

  • @Strike_Raid
    @Strike_Raid5 жыл бұрын

    Considering it's odd layout, the Agincourt has very nice lines.

  • @briananthony4044

    @briananthony4044

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree, nice looking ship. All those turrets help too.

  • @WillHayes44

    @WillHayes44

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perverts... She has a Command post as well.

  • @MarchHare59
    @MarchHare593 жыл бұрын

    If you noticed the odd looking hulk with the cranes and crude shacks covering her main deck (on the left side of the photo) at 8:02, that is the center-battery ironclad, HMS Sultan (1870) which was broken up in 1946.

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius19895 жыл бұрын

    I love the bit about how the Agincourt looked as her entire main battery fired. I can imagine It was an awesome site to see her firing. The Agincourt is close to how I would imagine my dream dreadnaught. Two turrets forward, 4 turrets aft, 2 facing forward and 2 facing aft with the middle two super firing. A compact superstructure that concentrates the armor to ensure max protection.

  • @billwatters4833
    @billwatters4833 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I served on HMS Agincourt, a battle class destroyer in 1956, She was equipped with two turrets of twin 4.5" and we had been alerted urgently and proceeded at speed south from Beruit where we briefly experienced an issue with an Algerian sweeper owned by the Egyptians. I was a Leading Seaman QA2 breech worker on B turret, The CPO in charge has strings linking left and right gun breech operators by string so that we could all observe the stop-loading order. In the middle of the night, an unidentified ship was encountered. We fired star shell but because the tiffys had been messing with the fire control system the star shell hit the sweeper in the funnel. It was never recorded and what happened afterwards when we returned to Cyprus.

  • @SlipdeGarcondeJour
    @SlipdeGarcondeJour Жыл бұрын

    I was somewhat fascinated by this ship in my youth... that many turrets on the centre line, is if nothing else aesthetically striking.

  • @robertschumacher2707
    @robertschumacher27074 жыл бұрын

    It's also interesting to note that other ships were ordered to position themselves relative to Agincourt, because its' profile was so distinctive.

  • @the_undead

    @the_undead

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean of any single ship in the grand fleet if there is anyone you ship that you could just get a glance and identify it would be this one

  • @nairdamorton5148
    @nairdamorton51485 жыл бұрын

    I don't remember if it was mentioned on here, but, as there were 7 turrets, they were called Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc to Saturday. I saw an old chap years ago in his waterside garden, there was a dinghy alongside his frontage, called "The Gin Palace". I asked him if he had served on HMS Agincourt, he was amazed and VERY pleased that I had sussed that from his dinghy as I was quite young at the time!. He was a chap who had been an Equerry to the Queen.

  • @sadiqmohamed681
    @sadiqmohamed6814 жыл бұрын

    There was a time when the history of HMS Agincourt could have been my Mastermind Specialist Subject! It was fascinating being reminded of it. I was sufficiently fired up that I went on eBay and found copies of two of Richard Hough's books. "The Big Battleship" his biography of Agincourt; and "Dreadnought: A history of the modern battleship" a fascinating book with some great background on ship design. It has a forward by C.S.Forester no less! "The Big Battleship" is a great read, not only for the Agincourt information, but also because he goes into the background of some of the characters and the history of the participating countries. There are lots of quotes from first hand records. A must have book not just for the Agincourt afficionado, but anyone interested in Dreadnoughts in general.

  • @craigfazekas3923

    @craigfazekas3923

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the info. Btw, there is now an outstanding 1:700 scale model kit of AGINCOURT by Flyhawk Models. There are 2 editions of it- standard & deluxe- with metal barrels, photo etch upgrades, ect. 🚬😎👍

  • @Cragified
    @Cragified5 жыл бұрын

    Should do one of these on BB-5 U.S.S. Kearsarge, the only American Battleship not named after a state.

  • @michaeltait1495

    @michaeltait1495

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was it the Kearsarge that was converted to a heavy lift ship between the wars?

  • @bachelorchownowwithflavor3712

    @bachelorchownowwithflavor3712

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaeltait1495 Correct.

  • @ZerokillerOppel1

    @ZerokillerOppel1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaeltait1495 And was in service until the '50's.

  • @mikepette4422

    @mikepette4422

    3 жыл бұрын

    i agree

  • @FRAGIORGIO1

    @FRAGIORGIO1

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw it in 1945, but it had been converted into a floating platform for a large crane. The ram bow with its molded US coat of arms shield were striking to my 8 year old eyes. It was scrapped later. What a loss of history as was the loss of the USS Oregon BB-3 which was commissioned in 1898 and scrapped in 1956 and the Kearsarge in 1955 !

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin3175 жыл бұрын

    8:04 that vessel on the left is fascinating. looks like an old "ship of the line" with a new bow bolted on and a whole lot of shacks nailed on top and on the sides to make it a floating workshop.

  • @rogerwilco2

    @rogerwilco2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I wondered about that as well.

  • @A_p_T53040

    @A_p_T53040

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hulks were fairly common back then

  • @wheels-n-tires1846

    @wheels-n-tires1846

    4 жыл бұрын

    There was a lot of "repurposing" of older out if date warships back then... Notable one that comes to mind was the USS Kearsarge, which became a crane ship, and helped service other battleships and assist in damage repair/ new construction into the mid 1950s.

  • @Andrei613

    @Andrei613

    3 жыл бұрын

    English: The British battleship HMS Erin in a floating dry dock, circa in 1918. The location may be Invergordon, Scotland (UK). In the left foreground are several old warships employed as barracks and for other stationary support duties. The one furthest right may be HMS Algiers (formerly HMS Triumph of 1873). That at the far left, with two smokestacks closely spaced side-by-side, may be HMS Mars of 1897. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HMS_Erin_in_floating_dry_dock_WWI_IWM_SP_2106.jpg Note that the British battleship in that picture is the Erin, and not the Agincourt. However, Erin was the other battleship that was built in the UK for Turkey and was requisitioned by the RN, along with Agincourt, at the start of the First World War.

  • @jehb8945
    @jehb89454 жыл бұрын

    The first time I read about HMS Agincourt was before I had internet access in an old squadron signals publication in action which you could buy at any hobby shop on the Wyoming class and I had to find out what this ship looked like and thankfully when we did get internet access there were a couple of websites that had a few pictures of HMS Agincourt and I was not disappointed It was every bit crazy looking as I expected. I read one description of firing a full 14-gun brideside and they said there were some pop rivets and the kitchen what's the greatest casualty as there was a lot of things that got shattered. I'm glad there was a guide on this made

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb75213 жыл бұрын

    The turret farmers had a bumper crop this season

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket4 жыл бұрын

    'Turret Farm'. I like that. Thanks for this very interesting and detailed video.

  • @trentxiiib8756
    @trentxiiib87563 жыл бұрын

    What from what I've read in a book, the turrets were named (bow to stern), Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thersday, Friday, Saturday, and of course Sunday!!!...

  • @happyhighway106
    @happyhighway1065 жыл бұрын

    #138 HMS Agincourt had a checkered career. She was a Lucky Ship. Lightly armored she could have blown up in battle. Very unusual design, and not the best! Thanks for your presentation.

  • @bkjeong4302

    @bkjeong4302

    5 жыл бұрын

    Happy Highway Given that no battleship justified her cost and most of them never actually fought other big-gun ships, the fact she fought at all means she’s more combat-effective than nearly all other battleships. Which really shows how useless these things were.

  • @happyhighway106

    @happyhighway106

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your are correct! @@bkjeong4302

  • @y0Milan

    @y0Milan

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bkjeong4302 The british battleships justified their cost in that Germany was never able to invade britain and remained under blockade for the duration of both world wars,

  • @bkjeong4302

    @bkjeong4302

    5 жыл бұрын

    ACED In WWII the battleship was obsolete thanks to naval aviation having just become the new arbiter of sea control, and in WWI geographic realities meant that the blockade was largely enforced by cruisers with the Grand Fleet serving more as a deterrent. Note that the High Seas Fleet never actually planned to engage the Grand Fleet and outright defeat it; their plan was to take it out a few isolated elements at a time.

  • @y0Milan

    @y0Milan

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bkjeong4302 Carrier warfare was much less relevant than heavy surface ship engagements in the atlantic theatre in ww2. As for ww1, sure the cruisers enforced the blockade but the High seas fleet could have broken it were it not for the grand fleets dreadnoughts. The point stands, britains vast fleet of battleships kept the germans at bay and under immense economic pressure in both wars. I can see Germany victorious in both world wars were it not for the Royal navies battleships.

  • @Omnihil777
    @Omnihil7775 жыл бұрын

    Love the more detailled videos, thank you for this highly fascinating piece of history.

  • @eh4447
    @eh44474 жыл бұрын

    I Enjoyed this Video re a ship c/w complicated story. He mentions the South American situation (natural resource sales, bigger government defense budgets, and regional rivalries lead to a naval build up), considering ordering different ships & gun size/number, things change, then the Turks urgent interest, WW 1, Don't Sell this battleship to our Turkish enemy and the Royal Navy takeover. I remember: 14 x 12" guns (7 twin turrets nicknamed Monday to Sunday). I still think armour is more important than speed in the end. Good job by this video's author!

  • @MrNealSalo
    @MrNealSalo5 жыл бұрын

    I seem to recall the turrets were named after the days of the week as opposed to the more common practice of A, B, X, Y, etc.; am I remembering this right?

  • @robertschumacher2707

    @robertschumacher2707

    4 жыл бұрын

    You remember correctly.

  • @ThePostie501
    @ThePostie5015 жыл бұрын

    Come on WOWS, you know you want to !

  • @miguelmontenegro3520

    @miguelmontenegro3520

    5 жыл бұрын

    And us as well

  • @clynch8646

    @clynch8646

    5 жыл бұрын

    And what do they do? They add it to the mobile game... cheers war gaming

  • @waverleyjournalise5757

    @waverleyjournalise5757

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's coming, at long last! Announced yesterday or something.

  • @ThePostie501

    @ThePostie501

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@waverleyjournalise5757 Finally ! 👍

  • @aristosachaion_

    @aristosachaion_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Boy do I have news for you.

  • @hajoos.8360
    @hajoos.83605 жыл бұрын

    Again a illustrious vid .... this leads to my proposal to produce a vid about the best british seaman ever, the Scotsman Lord Cochrane, who freed South-America with nearly nothing. Most south-american navies called a warship "Almirante Cochrane". Ok, i have to commit, that after the Spaniards were out, South-America is ruled by anglo-american corporates till our days, not so much difference to the Spaniards, but Cochrane's performance is still outstanding and let Nelson look like a dwarf.

  • @bleedinggumsroberts3579
    @bleedinggumsroberts35795 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I wish you happy holidays and all that.

  • @vincentpellegrino789
    @vincentpellegrino7895 жыл бұрын

    Well worth the extra time. Thank you.

  • @sirtoast4502
    @sirtoast45025 жыл бұрын

    You had 9,000 subs when I found this channel a few days ago, already up to 12,000, keep it sir, I see great things for this channel

  • @mikepette4422

    @mikepette4422

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm rewatching this video and he's got 215 k lol just 2 years on

  • @sirtoast4502

    @sirtoast4502

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mikepette4422 Holly hell it's already been two years? Fuck, Drach really filled a niche on KZread.

  • @brucemckean2848

    @brucemckean2848

    3 жыл бұрын

    Prescient!

  • @InternetEntity
    @InternetEntity4 жыл бұрын

    HMS Agincourt: A slightly British ship with South American flair and a very British history. It was reclaimed from legitimate ownersby means of planting the White Ensign on it. Somebody somewhere in the Royal NAvy then became very happy with the number of guns they had just aquired.

  • @TheKurtkapan34
    @TheKurtkapan345 жыл бұрын

    Agincourt and Erin: 2 ships that cost British Empire more than a million soldiers. There's no way Young Turks could sway the public opinion to Germans had the British delivered our ships. Great video and thank you for converting these old videos to human voice. Waiting for Goeben to become humanized too! :D

  • @Wallyworld30

    @Wallyworld30

    5 жыл бұрын

    Another huge blunder by Churchill. He didn't have much luck in WW1.

  • @y0Milan

    @y0Milan

    5 жыл бұрын

    highly debatable, in any case the Ottomans lost everything for their part in ww1 so i wouldn't gloat.

  • @TheAmir259

    @TheAmir259

    4 жыл бұрын

    And of course, could've avoided the disastrous Gallipoli Campaign

  • @Charliecomet82

    @Charliecomet82

    4 жыл бұрын

    Furthermore, if the Ottomans remained neutral, the Russians could have kept exporting grain and importing arms through the straits, with the possibility the war wouldn't have gone so badly for them, which might have meant no February Revolution and no October Revolution-good job, Winnie!

  • @sadiqmohamed681

    @sadiqmohamed681

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Ottomans had already signed a pact with the Germans prior to 1914 so seizing the Agincourt would have made no difference. It did however get used as an excuse for purely propaganda purposes. Edit: Your statement is based on a myth. I now have a copy of Richard Hough's "The Big Battleship", essentially a biography or the ship. He has quotes from both British and German sources that were written at the time. To summarise, the Turks had two factions, and "Old Guard" led by the Sultan (equivalent to King) and the Grand Vizier (equivalent to Prime Minister) who wanted to remain neutral, and a set of younger politicians and more importantly Army officers who called themselves "The Young Turks", who favoured siding with Germany. Nobody favoured siding with Britain. The YT's had been pressuring the government to side with Germany. They had mostly done their training in Germany. The Turkish Army had been equipped by Germany, while Britain had equipped the Navy. However the RN detachment helping train the Turks was not well supported from Britain, and was at a disadvantage. The Germans were being very forceful with their support. As a result early in 1914 it became clear that the Young Turks had gained the upper hand. This was re-enforced when SMS Goeben and SMS Breslau managed to evade the RN and make it into Constantinople at the beginning of August. The Germans made a big public show of handing these ships over to the Turks. The point that is continually ignored about the situation is that by the end of July 1914 the Turks had ALREADY negotiated a Treaty of Alliance with Germany, and a signed draft was in the hands of the German government. The arrival of Goeben and the seizing of Agincourt were used as PR to camouflage the reality. And the contract with Armstrong's included a clause allowing the RN to seize the ship "in critical circumstances". All ships being built in British yards for foreign navies had this clause, and I believe still do.

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb75212 жыл бұрын

    Just think, it only had that many turrets because the Vickers 14" salesman wasn't on point that day

  • @Aelvir114
    @Aelvir1143 жыл бұрын

    Weird how this is one of the only videos that Drach doesn’t give a run-down of the ships armament outside of the main guns. 🤔

  • @jamesbass4154
    @jamesbass41543 жыл бұрын

    While reading a PDF of Courier magazine which was a miniatures wargame magazine there is a Battle of Jutland HMS Agincourt after action report printed in it in its entirety. The author of the article was on a trip to England when he purchased a book. Inside it he found a folded piece of paper which contained the report.

  • @adamdubin1276
    @adamdubin12765 жыл бұрын

    Request for the Hag of the seas, the much unlamented and hideous Pre-Dreadnought Massena.

  • @sicandunya
    @sicandunya5 жыл бұрын

    The Agincourt was not the reason for the Ottomen Empire to switch to the German's. The German's convinced the Turks to open a new frontline against Russia. Therefore they gave the 2 ships (you mentioned) to the Ottoman Empire. The first year or so the Yavuz (ex Goeben) was driven by German soldiers. Sorry for my bad English, thanks for you contribution, it's very helpfull...

  • @axelandersson6314

    @axelandersson6314

    5 жыл бұрын

    turkpunk Well he seems to have just said that it was a justification. Not the actual reason, but one of the things formally proclaimed as a reason.

  • @felixsteiner8320

    @felixsteiner8320

    Жыл бұрын

    The sultan was not aware of the agreement and thus Cemal Pasha (one of the three pashas) was against the alliance with Germany before this event (he was more interested on an alliance with the French).

  • @muysli.y1855

    @muysli.y1855

    10 ай бұрын

    Not the reason but one of them with this requisition of Agincourt the people of Ottoman support the Axis instead of Entente.

  • @longlakeshore
    @longlakeshore5 жыл бұрын

    Turret farm! lol

  • @typehere6689

    @typehere6689

    5 жыл бұрын

    What do they eat?

  • @kkhagerty6315

    @kkhagerty6315

    5 жыл бұрын

    Type Here 12 inch shells

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot
    @Self-replicating_whatnot3 жыл бұрын

    British really missed a trick there, they should've named this riducolous turret farm "HMS Moar Dakka"

  • @06colkurtz
    @06colkurtz4 жыл бұрын

    Well done. Love your videos. Do more

  • @HighlanderNorth1
    @HighlanderNorth14 жыл бұрын

    **As the narrator said, the Agincourt was able to evade the torpedoes, while the Marlboro was hit as it steamed beside it's sister ships, the Newport, and the Winston. The long, skinny battlecruiser HMS Virginia Slim was also hit, as were the smaller cruisers Salem Light and Doral Light.** Two other cruisers were late to the battle, they were the Benson & Hedges.... Parliament was none too happy to hear that these and other ships were late to show up. There was a meeting about it on the Pall Mall. Admiral Chesterfield received most of the blame, and he was demoted to captain of the Kent. He had always been somewhat of a Maverick, way back from his days serving on the Dunhill, the Mayfair and the Richmond. Lord Phillip Morris saw Merit in the performance of this ship. After the war, many of the veteran officers got good jobs in the Embassy, while sailors received Basic jobs. One officer eventually became Viceroy of Tareyton. The immediate post-war years were very Kool times indeed...

  • @waynevreeland3141

    @waynevreeland3141

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done, lad... but I fear I was coughing and hacking up a lung during your presentation.

  • @HighlanderNorth1

    @HighlanderNorth1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@waynevreeland3141 Yeah, me too, at least until i quit smoking menthols after 28 years. Its funny how much you end up LOATHING the thought of being a smoker, AFTER you quit being a smoker!

  • @insight-chris7570
    @insight-chris75705 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy that finally someone is doing good stuff about Naval history :D pls do a Video about the IJN Tosa it would be a pretty interesting Video I think

  • @LordEvan5
    @LordEvan55 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate these I just found this channel and have been enjoying greatly there used to be another guy but he wasn’t as good only showed a static view of the ship keep it up

  • @csikidomi
    @csikidomi5 жыл бұрын

    AAAAAnd subscribed.Great videos keep em up

  • @snookums01
    @snookums014 жыл бұрын

    My thanks for this video. I have the book on this ship and a 1/700 scale resin model that I was planning to construct. However, a new model maker has turned up with a plastic offering. There are three models available for HMS Agincourt, 2 in 1/700 scale and 1 in 1/350 scale. Combrig offer a 1/700 scale resin waterline version of how she looked in 1918. The rear tripod tower had been removed at this time. Flyhawk have just released a 1/700 scale version in plastic as she looked at Jutland. They also have a delux version with brass gun barrels and photoetch. The 1/350 scale is by Ironshipwrights in the US. Resin and photoetch so expensive in postage.

  • @ringowunderlich2241
    @ringowunderlich22415 жыл бұрын

    One of the most preciuos resources of Chile, Peru and Bolivia had been saltpeter. Thus their war for the control of the saltpeter mines in the borderregion between them in 1879-1884 was also called "Saltpeter War". Alfred Thayer Mahan had been there to represent the US economy interests. In that time he developed his theory of the war winning effect of a strong sea power. His theory lead to the naval arms race of many countries, that continued into WWI and is still in effect to this day, looking at the US sea power.

  • @vikkimcdonough6153
    @vikkimcdonough6153 Жыл бұрын

    Britain: *seizes battleship to avoid having to fight it* Ottoman Empire: *declares war on Britain in outrage* Yeah, that worked well.

  • @forthleft
    @forthleft3 жыл бұрын

    Can't enjoy these enough.

  • @timengineman2nd714
    @timengineman2nd7142 жыл бұрын

    Drachinifel: I know there was some type of limit, from Brazil, on the ship that eventually became the HMS Agincourt. I can remember if it was her beam or draft. I do know that it had something to do with her home port, or another Brazilian port that she may be sent to in "times of trouble." Could you please let me know which measurement, and exactly the why?

  • @nonna_sof5889
    @nonna_sof58894 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or is the guy at 2:10 a Soviet? He seems to have a PPSh-41, two Nagant M1895s, three F1 grenades, two RGD-33 grenades (one with and one without the fragmentation sleeve), and an RPG-40.

  • @EricDKaufman
    @EricDKaufman5 жыл бұрын

    you end this videos so harshly... i guess that is appropriate. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @peepsy1528
    @peepsy15285 жыл бұрын

    could you review the Kirov class cruiser?

  • @matspedersen1332
    @matspedersen13325 жыл бұрын

    Please do the Eidsvoll class. Norge and Eidsvoll they were Norwegian battleships

  • @Andrei613

    @Andrei613

    3 жыл бұрын

    They were small coast defense ships. The Eidsvold class was a class of coastal defence ships, two of which were built for the Royal Norwegian Navy in 1899 by Armstrong Whitworth. The class consisted of two ships, HNoMS Eidsvold and HNoMS Norge. Locally they were referred to as panserskip (lit.: armoured ship).

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube98635 жыл бұрын

    I remember reading that there was some controversy when American shipyards built the "Minas Geraes" with more guns then the USS Michigan. But the US Navy had rejected the design because the side turrets weakened the strength girder of the ship plus the space for the barbettes took up valuable engine room space. The US Navy also stopped putting turrets in between engine rooms at this time as cooling the magazines was a problem. The difference in temperature of the shells resulted in a large dispersion of salvos. The New York and Wyoming classes were notorious for their poor accuracy so much, that the midship guns were directed separately from the fore and aft guns.

  • @Sshooter444
    @Sshooter4445 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Human Voice

  • @SomeGuy-cp1km
    @SomeGuy-cp1km5 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on Task Group Taffy 3 and the Battle off Samar?

  • @antiochusiiithegreat7721

    @antiochusiiithegreat7721

    5 жыл бұрын

    He did one on the John C. Butler.

  • @Wien1938
    @Wien19385 жыл бұрын

    The story goes that when Agincourt fired a full broadside, every crew locker in the ship was dented!

  • @jacobmercado3762

    @jacobmercado3762

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention, when the Agincourt fired her first broadside, every tableware and glassware on the ship was reported to have been broken.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote76364 жыл бұрын

    Were the Turks ever compensatedd for what many individuals had subscribed? I remember reading a monograph on this vessel in the '60s. Its designer was Sir Hugh Tennyson d'Eyncourt. (and I can't remember peoples' names!).

  • @Robutube1
    @Robutube14 жыл бұрын

    When I was in the Andrew, HMS Bellerophon was pronounced Bell-er-off-on and not as it is pronounced at 11:34. I believe that it was an "umbrella" name for ships in reserve at Portsmouth, often used for accommodation. I don't know which pronunciation is correct because we often mangled the names of Greek and Roman deities, a popular source for ship's names.

  • @derekmcmanus1423
    @derekmcmanus14235 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video.

  • @1TruNub
    @1TruNub5 жыл бұрын

    Ah the Gin palace

  • @iamnadexey
    @iamnadexey5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, you should do major naval action commentary, such as Jutland, or Leyte Gulf, or possibly Battle of the Coral Sea (and the like) Also could you do HMCS Haida? (Royal Canadian Tribal class DD)

  • @TheSonicfrog
    @TheSonicfrog5 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a review of the U.S. Navy AR (Auxiliary Repair) Class built during WWII and including ships such as the USS Jason, USS Hector, USS Achilles, etc. I served aboard the Jason and it was a fascinating ship built upon an ocean liner hull.

  • @darthrevan704
    @darthrevan7045 жыл бұрын

    we need this in world of warships

  • @josephthomas8318

    @josephthomas8318

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's a tier 5 premium battleship in world of warships blitz

  • @doyouseetorpedoboats8893

    @doyouseetorpedoboats8893

    3 жыл бұрын

    And now its in normal wows!

  • @garnetgourlay3988
    @garnetgourlay39885 жыл бұрын

    The Royal Navy still produces the most professional and highly trained Men Of Oak .Where is the next Thomas Cochrane hiding ? Rule Britannia .

  • @airplanemaster1
    @airplanemaster15 жыл бұрын

    May I request a guide to the Omaha-class light cruisers?

  • @billbrockman779

    @billbrockman779

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @ankles632
    @ankles6325 жыл бұрын

    Have you done 1 on the first HMAS Sydney ? Her fight with SMS Emden was the birth ( in a way) of the RAN.

  • @carstenpedersen3200
    @carstenpedersen32005 жыл бұрын

    Erhhm, why are the Falklands on the Argentine map?

  • @Drachinifel

    @Drachinifel

    5 жыл бұрын

    The map shows Argentine territory in dark green, and what they claim is theirs in light green.

  • @EdMcF1

    @EdMcF1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Drachinifel Well it shouldn't, the Argentine claim to the Falklands is BS, and based on a usurpation involving a murder and a rape. And they even call South Georgia 'Georgia del Sur', showing that they can't even borrow and hispanicise a French name, but have to refer to King George.

  • @DIEGhostfish

    @DIEGhostfish

    5 жыл бұрын

    The claim is garbage, but it's still a claim that exists.

  • @ThePaulv12

    @ThePaulv12

    5 жыл бұрын

    It might be astute that we don't talk about this in the case Argentinian trolls start getting batey.

  • @Colonel_Overkill

    @Colonel_Overkill

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DIEGhostfish I believe the Royal Navy answered the concerns of Argentina about the Falklands a few decades ago

  • @airplanemaster1
    @airplanemaster16 ай бұрын

    Ahh, HMS Sultan De Jeneiro the 1st Agincourt. Best ship of the Royql Navy.

  • @bverheijden
    @bverheijden4 жыл бұрын

    This would be one heck of a ship for the World of Warships game. 14 guns broadside, come on then...

  • @wheels-n-tires1846

    @wheels-n-tires1846

    4 жыл бұрын

    Blitz has It!!!👍

  • @robertgiggie6366
    @robertgiggie63665 жыл бұрын

    Ahh eminent domain. Makes stealing seem so much more civilized.

  • @randyhavard6084
    @randyhavard6084 Жыл бұрын

    It's kind of a baller move say I'll buy all the battleships, and if you want let me buy them I'll take them from you

  • @wandrinyew
    @wandrinyew4 жыл бұрын

    As the ship was being refit for the Turks, some of the construction people noticed that all of the labeling for the ship had writing on both sides of the plates. One was Turkish, the other, English. The contractors were told to say nothing.

  • @bfrobin446

    @bfrobin446

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was standard practice among most or all British yards building ships for export to have the plates labeled in English on one side. How else were English-speaking yard personnel supposed to know which plate went where?

  • @adamwright9517
    @adamwright95174 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos. I think it's pronounced Benboh, not Benbowe. Also, I believe that Seydlitz is pronounced Sigh-dlitz.

  • @Bird_Dog00
    @Bird_Dog004 жыл бұрын

    Britain to its customers: "Yea, we're going to "borrow" your ships, k? Don't worry, you'll get them eventually - provided Davy Jones doesn't get them first that is - once they got warped hulls from mines and torpedoes, lots of patches from shell hits, worn-out engines and are ofc obsolete. And we're even throwing in a new paint-job for free because we're so nice..." I'm sure there was a clause in the contract that made that legal and needs-of-war must, but it still sounds rather un-nice...

  • @antiochusiiithegreat7721
    @antiochusiiithegreat77215 жыл бұрын

    Wow! 15000 subs. I swear there was only 10000 a couple days ago.

  • @cogidubnus1953

    @cogidubnus1953

    5 жыл бұрын

    and three months later 34,000....

  • @DangerTurtle91

    @DangerTurtle91

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cogidubnus1953 and 5 months later 69,000. I think he was in the 20,000-30,000 range when I found his channel.

  • @pabmusic1
    @pabmusic14 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. (It's Benbow - rhymes with "then go".)

  • @Weesel71
    @Weesel714 жыл бұрын

    Seems to be a good place ask for some clarification. ISTR reading that the Turkish ships were not only retained but that the money was also not returned to Turkey and that this is what really miffed Johnny Turk. Later I recall reading about a plan to use the Turkish money to bribe some Turkish officials to stay out of the war but Winston put the kibosh to that plan. So, he developed the plan to seize the ships, retain the funds, and then not return the funds as a bribe to keep that front from opening. How close to a cigar are my memory banks functioning? Seems like something that would make a fascinating special on some history channel if for nothing but clarification.

  • @ndmmt-wu7kz
    @ndmmt-wu7kz4 жыл бұрын

    Could you come up with a putative design and function for the “floating fortresses” in 1984?

  • @randallstarling1804
    @randallstarling18045 жыл бұрын

    Can you please do the HMAS Sydney (D48) in ww2 thanks

  • @tsuaririndoku
    @tsuaririndoku3 жыл бұрын

    Ottoman Empire: Can we get the ship please? We alrd make the funding for you Churchill: No Ottoman: But its our money! And you said we can have a ship! Churchill: Money? What Money? Its mine now...

  • @christianhoffmann8607
    @christianhoffmann86075 жыл бұрын

    02:07 Jesus how many weapons does this guy need

  • @christopherconard2831

    @christopherconard2831

    4 жыл бұрын

    One more, always one more.

  • @davidjaeckel1841
    @davidjaeckel18414 жыл бұрын

    Can you do the USS Juneau, the ship that the 5 Sullivan brothers died on. I think it was designated CL-52.

  • @program4215
    @program42155 жыл бұрын

    Please tell me the video length is intentional

  • @437cosimo
    @437cosimo5 жыл бұрын

    Did not the Agincourt also have a very open design that would not have helped her if hit by torpedoes?

  • @nikowoods5794
    @nikowoods57945 жыл бұрын

    A Gin Court.

  • @collinriley4976
    @collinriley49764 жыл бұрын

    I have many waterline ship models (1/1200) and have long wanted one of this ship.

  • @Wombat1916

    @Wombat1916

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have 30 waterline or (mainly) full hull models in various scales from HMS Dreadnought to HMS Vanguard, though my current favourite is the Heller 1/400th scale model of the French battleship Richelieu.

  • @GrahamCStrouse
    @GrahamCStrouse5 жыл бұрын

    Agincourt would be an interesting edition to World of Warships, maybe as a tier 4 premium.

  • @tmwarthunder1016

    @tmwarthunder1016

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Tier 5

  • @bfrobin446

    @bfrobin446

    2 жыл бұрын

    Turns out Wargaming has a distinct reluctance to put premiums at tier 4. If they can do enough with the soft stats to make a ship tolerable at tier 5, it's a lot easier to sell a ship that qualifies to play daily missions and events in.

  • @jonbainmusicvideos8045
    @jonbainmusicvideos80455 жыл бұрын

    funny how amusing this is when it was really quite an horrific spectacle

  • @markmiddleton1772
    @markmiddleton17724 жыл бұрын

    would love a video on hms fearless and her sister

  • @timkbirchico8542
    @timkbirchico85424 жыл бұрын

    Dear Mr Drachinfel could you please do a vid on Cochrane and his South American adventures. And joy to you in it sir.

  • @Sturminfantrist
    @Sturminfantrist5 жыл бұрын

    the turks were really pissed when their ships were seased by the brits, one reason more for joining the german side after the Goeben and Breslau were send to Turkey. well done GB :)

  • @tomriley5790

    @tomriley5790

    5 жыл бұрын

    They were already going to join though so nothing lost...

  • @Sturminfantrist

    @Sturminfantrist

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tomriley5790 without this insult Turkey had maybe stayed neutral or joined the Brits side Many lives lost and britain had messed the whole Region up with Sykes Picot Treatm. and Balfour decl. Nothing lost, say that to an ANZAC ;)

  • @todo9633

    @todo9633

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you miss the part about the secret Ottoman-German treaty that had been signed? The treaty that stipulated that the Ottomans would join the war on Germany's side? Sure the seizure of the ships drummed up public support for the war but the brits were gonna have to fight the Ottomans anyway so why the hell would they give them shiny new battleships that they could then use to kill british merchantmen?

  • @JohnJohansen2
    @JohnJohansen25 жыл бұрын

    5:05 What are all those oblique "things" down the length of the hull? They are on the Dreadnought and other ships as well.

  • @Drachinifel

    @Drachinifel

    5 жыл бұрын

    They are torpedo net support booms, folded away for transit at sea

  • @louislungbubble

    @louislungbubble

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would imagine they are torpedo net booms.

  • @JohnJohansen2

    @JohnJohansen2

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Drachinifel Thanks a lot. I wouldn't have guessed that. Although now knowing, it seems logical. 😉

  • @threechevy4203
    @threechevy42032 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on the USS New York aka Rodchester?