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Smash Flash 2 VS Smash Crusade Part 1: 64 Roster

SSF2 and Smash Bros Crusade are two of the greatest and most popular pixel art Smash Bros fan games out there. Both of them share a lot of characters and do them a bit differently, I want to see who does it better. Join me as we look at the Smash 64 characters.
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  • @Frost-tw4qd
    @Frost-tw4qd Жыл бұрын

    What makes SSF2 Link interesting is that if you throw a bomb and then shoot at it with an arrow it becomes a bomb arrow.

  • @fwemp

    @fwemp

    Жыл бұрын

    Or you can just shoot with the bomb still in your hand.

  • @Frost-tw4qd

    @Frost-tw4qd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fwemp That’s interesting, I didn’t know you could do it that way.

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fwemp proof?

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Frost-tw4qd The ssf2 bomb arrow doesn't as much depth to link, ssf2 link is essentially smash 4 link with melee down tilt, and super good stats, ssf2 link is the best in all smashes even ultimate, his stats are way too good, high damage and frame data? I love ssf2 link for how clean he is, although for moveset creativity it's a lazy design

  • @fwemp

    @fwemp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IIIISai Does it not work for you when you try it?

  • @chuko640
    @chuko640 Жыл бұрын

    The new 9.5(demo) of Crusade really feels like they're taking it to an entire new level and I am very excited to see the full version out. Now, the only thing missing for Crusade to burst out and expand to new places is...a working online mode.

  • @CypherEnerjak

    @CypherEnerjak

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr

  • @tales9342

    @tales9342

    Жыл бұрын

    Please

  • @vito6197

    @vito6197

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro, SONIC AND VEGETA IS FUCKING Amazing. That's all I need.

  • @silly_dev1025

    @silly_dev1025

    Жыл бұрын

    Where is the demo

  • @yabusamehoulen7636

    @yabusamehoulen7636

    Жыл бұрын

    Since version 0.9.3 Lucas was Nerfed a loooot i'm not excited for new version because he was nerfed tho in v0.9.4 so it will be all the same for future versions. So i use Lucas's v0.9.2 Data fighter file.

  • @bigkebizino8970
    @bigkebizino8970 Жыл бұрын

    Bomb arrows are goated in ssf2

  • @Pokeblueblur

    @Pokeblueblur

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was waiting for that part as a link main

  • @ultrascarlet5275

    @ultrascarlet5275

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn't mention it :/

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    yea but throwing bomb is more viable, bomb arrow though is good for tech chases

  • @MateusDrake
    @MateusDrake Жыл бұрын

    I think the list could have benefitted from a "tie" category. These cases were it's a tossup or pretty close could be considered tie, so the points for each game would reflect characters that were definite wins and make them more valuable.

  • @LunaMinuna
    @LunaMinuna Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad that people are loving Crusade, as a dev on the team this is amazing Also the thing about changing up a character is that if you change a character too much, it’ll alienate a player who came from the og smash and basically force them into playing a new character(IE crusade ganondorf or little mac(who actually came first)) then they made a ultimate little for crusade little Mac for those who liked playing ultimate little Mac

  • @XxEnderxX-lh5hf

    @XxEnderxX-lh5hf

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, how else are you going to capture an audience when they can just play normal smash, with new movesets to the old characters, it gives an incentive to play and master new versions of the characters

  • @riokshutt2115

    @riokshutt2115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@XxEnderxX-lh5hf because not everyone can play the og smash

  • @XxEnderxX-lh5hf

    @XxEnderxX-lh5hf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@riokshutt2115 then to bad for them lmao

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    @@XxEnderxX-lh5hf exactly

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    @@riokshutt2115 anyone who can play crusade can play smash 64 or ssf2, crusade should be creative, because in a flash game with OG movesets ,ssf2 is cleaner then crusade

  • @tobejiru
    @tobejiru Жыл бұрын

    Crusade's visuals is just too much of a hodgepodge for me to really enjoy it. SSF2 has a clear art direction and polish that Crusade sorely lacks

  • @Veecy
    @Veecy Жыл бұрын

    I love how the announcers sound side-by-side, with SSF2 sounding a little odd but pretty formal and serious, and Crusade just sounding like the developer opened up Audacity and just said the name of the character in a normal speaking tone

  • @polishtoygamer1420
    @polishtoygamer1420 Жыл бұрын

    Here is a few quicks things that got changed(since version 0.9.5 demo came out) Mario has down b, originally from Super Mario Galaxy. It has more vertical knockback, but it's a worse recovery option. Dk hasa barrel projectile for side b and a blast barrel for up b Yoshi has new voice clips Kirby has a new dash attack using his Hammer ability and Buring is his side b Pikachu use voice clips from Pokken Tournament

  • @genv02
    @genv02 Жыл бұрын

    The Crusade FS for Captain Falcon is a reference to the anime where he does his final Falcon Punch

  • @bluberrydee6205
    @bluberrydee6205 Жыл бұрын

    can't wait for the MEGAMAN COMPARISON WHERE ALMOST HIS ENTIRE MOVESET IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE TWO GAMES THANKS TO HIM HAVING LIKE A THOUSAND DIFFERENT WEAPONS TO CHOOSE FROM WOOOOO

  • @senesterium
    @senesterium11 ай бұрын

    We NEED a sequel with the rest of the roster! You make it so interesting!

  • @vito6197
    @vito6197 Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for you to cover my mains Sonic and Goku.

  • @dracobot2953
    @dracobot2953 Жыл бұрын

    thanks to the power of mods, it is possible to make kirby feel like his vanilla serl, stealing the actual opponent’s ability

  • @jv.2494
    @jv.2494 Жыл бұрын

    Grat video man, really loved the wrestling clip edits

  • @bigkebizino8970
    @bigkebizino8970 Жыл бұрын

    Thus is sick, please make more

  • @brendanlepeska4295
    @brendanlepeska4295 Жыл бұрын

    The Crusade Luigi final smash is referenced to the elements you use in Luigi’s Mansion.

  • @Champion919Games

    @Champion919Games

    Жыл бұрын

    no really

  • @zekmaster644
    @zekmaster644 Жыл бұрын

    I thought this video would discuss combo game and how effective certain moves are in neutral, approaching options, etc. I guess this wasn't that type of video though. Still it was cool that we got to see both games side by side, I had never played crusade.

  • @Hinokami777

    @Hinokami777

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah he’s talking just the basics for beginners maybe that’ll be his next video

  • @memnook1919
    @memnook1919 Жыл бұрын

    Yo this video is popping off let’s go 🎉

  • @abu-bøqr
    @abu-bøqr Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, keep up the content!

  • @IIIISai
    @IIIISai Жыл бұрын

    Crusade is quantity over quality, Ssf2 Beta is quality of quantity, although some characters like Goku are horribly designed, and some reskins are also cheap, but compared to crusade ssf2 is First class..I love the crusade 6 player, huge roster, complex controls and finisher bars, but why is only 10/1000 characters properly designed

  • @EWOODJ

    @EWOODJ

    Жыл бұрын

    That whole “quantity over quality” this is old and dead. The game is still in development and changes to character sprites are being made. Also, they’re fan games. They don’t have to follow the rules of how characters feel or are designed.

  • @Aadamisunpopular
    @Aadamisunpopular Жыл бұрын

    Finnaly someone making a bid on ssf2

  • @kasuheartsrivals
    @kasuheartsrivals8 ай бұрын

    im a little late to this video, very fun since im not super familiar with crusade, but hopefully one day we can get the same kinda comparison video for rivals workshop smash characters with SSF2/Crusade

  • @xRagingxDemonx
    @xRagingxDemonx Жыл бұрын

    Is Shadow's moveset good?? I'm curious to see what it looks like. also to answer your question Flash2 is more fast pace and overall every character moves similar to Project M. Not exactly Melee but fast paced and whatnot. They put more time into making the animations and the timing feel more polished.

  • @MrSmasher
    @MrSmasher Жыл бұрын

    One thing I like about Crusade is their take on the characters. Ryu has EX moves, Captain Falcon charges his Falcon Punch, etc. It makes it more new and cool, tbh.

  • @Hinokami777

    @Hinokami777

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you tell me how to add characters ?

  • @Super-Animation
    @Super-Animation Жыл бұрын

    Also the thing about changing up a character is that if you change a character too much, it’ll alienate a player who came from the og smash and basically force them into playing a new character(IE crusade ganondorf or little mac(who actually came first)) then they made a ultimate little for crusade little Mac for those who liked playing ultimate little Mac

  • @Goopyguts
    @Goopyguts3 ай бұрын

    I love how calm the crusade announcer is

  • @JoseFlores-ju2ph
    @JoseFlores-ju2ph Жыл бұрын

    The other crusade link is a reference to the special techniques that you learn from the hero of oot in TP

  • @javiermedina9392
    @javiermedina9392 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot link's bomb arrows

  • @alecorn5200
    @alecorn5200 Жыл бұрын

    Ive never heard of Crusade before but im glad it exist

  • @damane6280
    @damane6280 Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see part 2

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp6 ай бұрын

    I love these Super Smash Brothers fan games!

  • @morphstarchangeling8024
    @morphstarchangeling80246 ай бұрын

    Here's a fun little thing. In ssf2 the special mode has a turbo option that lets you cancel moves into other moves. Jiggs can down throw into sing into down throw into rest for easy kills.

  • @EricVel11037
    @EricVel11037 Жыл бұрын

    4:35. Twilight princess move set! Sick!!

  • @juanyz5351
    @juanyz5351 Жыл бұрын

    nothing better than kirby doing the naruto run while saying RASENGAN!! with a cute voice

  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel781 Жыл бұрын

    mannnnnn i remember when ssf 1 came out omfg it was so fun

  • @Wienerdog5
    @Wienerdog5 Жыл бұрын

    Part 2 would for sure be more interesting

  • @yabusamehoulen7636

    @yabusamehoulen7636

    Жыл бұрын

    I will foresee that Part 2 is about Melee Characters Part 3 is for Brawl Characters.

  • @Wienerdog5

    @Wienerdog5

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yabusamehoulen7636 yeah that makes sense

  • @yabusamehoulen7636

    @yabusamehoulen7636

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wienerdog5 i am sure you can think about Part 4 and 5

  • @MarkiplierMeatMuncher8
    @MarkiplierMeatMuncher8 Жыл бұрын

    I like how 9.5 demo just released not too long after this video lol

  • @tonysledge5718
    @tonysledge57185 ай бұрын

    Links down tilt in ssf2 is a extremely strong meteor for some reason 😂

  • @xbgsheikiii3593
    @xbgsheikiii3593 Жыл бұрын

    Bro i started with ssf2 way before playing the og smash, when i saw link couldn't do his arrow bomb in the official games i fekt so betrayed because it was such a good idea

  • @DavidXtheCosmicGamerOfficial
    @DavidXtheCosmicGamerOfficial9 ай бұрын

    I actually got a video on crusade where I was playing with ness and I tried using the up special to launch him upwards, but it by passes through him, it only works as an attack and not recovery.

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack Жыл бұрын

    OK, but why did you not love the anime reference for Crusade Falcon's Final Smash?

  • @vapor-shadow2815
    @vapor-shadow28157 ай бұрын

    A missed opportunity for this is to also mention things like skins, color pallets and little details( i know he sometimes dous but i think that couldve made things more intresting. )

  • @sonictomine9435
    @sonictomine9435 Жыл бұрын

    will u update to 9.5 demo since its put for ssbc or stay at 9.4a

  • @KalaschniKlown
    @KalaschniKlown7 ай бұрын

    I really wish the Project Crusade AND SSF2 Teams can collaborate on something big sometime soon

  • @ducklett01god

    @ducklett01god

    6 ай бұрын

    Super smash crusade flash ultimate &knuckles

  • @vvrr6dif
    @vvrr6dif Жыл бұрын

    Very cool

  • @alfonsogamer0075
    @alfonsogamer0075 Жыл бұрын

    If we want crusade to win, we need characters that change a loot of moves because ssf2 feels more polished SO that gives ssf2 an advantage.

  • @Helios2737
    @Helios2737 Жыл бұрын

    Crusade Falcon Final Smash could've been so cool if he did the Electrical Falcon Punch from the Fzero anime, complete with the voice clip and music

  • @shyguyisabeast8821
    @shyguyisabeast8821 Жыл бұрын

    Wait till he finds out what happens if you fully charge the falcon punch lol

  • @Benjamin-zh8vv
    @Benjamin-zh8vv6 ай бұрын

    The Game auto starts after choosing window size (it and skips the intro and even starts the game without even me hitting the Enter button to get into the game after the Title) and I can not use any of the controls except for the esc button and keeps making weird beeping sound. I also can't select any mode on the main menu. How do I fix this?

  • @Inari_YT
    @Inari_YT Жыл бұрын

    nice vid 👍

  • @mikethompson1653
    @mikethompson165310 ай бұрын

    Part 2 isn't ever coming out, is it?

  • @darkdoctor1915
    @darkdoctor1915 Жыл бұрын

    Update, hidden skills link in a later update will soon be changed into Dark Link

  • @Stranger-exe
    @Stranger-exe Жыл бұрын

    im pretty sure falcon’s crusade final smash is a reference to this scene in the anime kzread.info/dash/bejne/eK2mlNOzla-zhLw.html

  • @Luke1YT
    @Luke1YT Жыл бұрын

    I like smash flash more just because it has bandana Dee. But it’s weird that there is no ddd

  • @OwangeZenGaming
    @OwangeZenGaming Жыл бұрын

    Im the 800 sub :)

  • @getoffmylawn6275
    @getoffmylawn6275 Жыл бұрын

    Personally for me it is all about movement when it comes down to a smash fan game. Super Smash Bros Crusades with the ability to switch air dodges to any of the air dodge types in the main smash series. Crusade takes the cake even if some of the characters look a bit goofy.

  • @mercianthane2503
    @mercianthane2503 Жыл бұрын

    Wait... Smash Flash 2 is still in development? I've played that game since its very beginning around 2008.

  • @Justj5271
    @Justj5271 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I wish they'd add Zelda to crusade. I actually enjoy playing as her in the other games

  • @mommyuki
    @mommyuki Жыл бұрын

    7:38 he also swings his hammer twice in the air in SSF2

  • @jasomega2446
    @jasomega2446 Жыл бұрын

    4:34 N I C E !

  • @elichannel777
    @elichannel77725 күн бұрын

    I prefer Crusade, I will admit that I’m the kind of quantity over quality kind of guy😅 but I feel like there is some good quality too! Shadow’s alts refer to Shadow Android and Mephiles, Luigi has a Gooigi alt, Peach has Daisy, etc.

  • @elichannel777

    @elichannel777

    25 күн бұрын

    In other words, love the alts

  • @MrSMD-rr9xw
    @MrSMD-rr9xw9 ай бұрын

    Summation: “it’s the same”

  • @stray1239
    @stray1239 Жыл бұрын

    what's so bad about ultimate yoshi? literally my main :(

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    he's just floaty and mashy, his moveset is more optimal with mashing aireals, while compared to melee and 64 yoshi he's more grounded and technical

  • @Iceman__6996
    @Iceman__6996 Жыл бұрын

    I want a part 2 please

  • @trevonjones5233
    @trevonjones5233 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like to make Pikachu feel different is change his final smash to 10 mil volts and make his up smash into Iron tail for ascetic

  • @TheB-Train
    @TheB-Train Жыл бұрын

    Super Smash Flash carried so many childhoods, including my own. I can't believe that over 6 years later, I'm seeing a video about it. Makes me quite nostalgic, not just for this game, but every game we lost to the death of Adobe Flash Player. I don't even have my own PC anymore to download third-party software and relive this legendary experience.

  • @Wolfie15
    @Wolfie15 Жыл бұрын

    holy

  • @Redstinger99
    @Redstinger99 Жыл бұрын

    Btw the new update came out for the demo for 0.9.5 if you want to play that instead

  • @luiiiiiiiiiiigi
    @luiiiiiiiiiiigi Жыл бұрын

    When part 2 ?

  • @Drako4KZ
    @Drako4KZ Жыл бұрын

    W

  • @SSBSoundcoreLatino
    @SSBSoundcoreLatino Жыл бұрын

    O my god

  • @emanuelepicariello9852
    @emanuelepicariello9852 Жыл бұрын

    Make a second part pls

  • @zOOpygOOpert
    @zOOpygOOpert Жыл бұрын

    Smash Flash's art reminds me of Terraria's art style

  • @AnimatorJsonz
    @AnimatorJsonz11 ай бұрын

    fun fact: SSF2 Project b patch 8 Mario is SSBU mario for dk fox and the others why they dont have a different color pallete because these are not ssf2 custom sprites they are premade sprites not resprited They might MIGHT get a resprite for custom sprites

  • @flamingphoenix1425
    @flamingphoenix1425 Жыл бұрын

    Bro really downplayed the F-Zero anime Falcon Punch

  • @baalfgames5318
    @baalfgames531811 ай бұрын

    Part 2?

  • @kathyst.george5136
    @kathyst.george51369 ай бұрын

    just wait until you see cmc+v8

  • @Heheboltgobrrrt
    @Heheboltgobrrrt Жыл бұрын

    They're adding Tetromino to Smash Flash 2

  • @qtomato3384
    @qtomato33847 ай бұрын

    i prefer crusade captain falcon because he has a few voice lines from the melee falcon (especially when he gets ko'd) and i love it

  • @devancarnes3510
    @devancarnes35102 ай бұрын

    Can this be put on the psp??

  • @maxlimit9129
    @maxlimit9129 Жыл бұрын

    The one thing that holds me back from playing Crusade is the animations, they look soooooo unpolished compared to SSF2

  • @chaos_crew766
    @chaos_crew766 Жыл бұрын

    Where's Part 2?!

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 Жыл бұрын

    I been playing SSF2 for over a decade and only tried Crusade once. I love SSF2 even though the community can be toxic and I try to stay away from it.

  • @rosepourreza9299
    @rosepourreza92998 ай бұрын

    Someone make this on a game boy advance cartridge please😂

  • @liamdoes8580
    @liamdoes8580 Жыл бұрын

    2:44 he ain't wrong tho

  • @nick-cepticon782
    @nick-cepticon782 Жыл бұрын

    7:55 song?

  • @wubbers662
    @wubbers6629 ай бұрын

    Who did the characters not in Smash better? I say Crusade, because consider Saki, Mach Rider, Porky, Ristar, just to name a few.

  • @thatisnotdababy9694
    @thatisnotdababy9694 Жыл бұрын

    This video blew up like crazy

  • @micahheyward5342
    @micahheyward5342 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know how you can play SSF2 today?

  • @brendanlepeska4295
    @brendanlepeska4295 Жыл бұрын

    Never heard of crusade

  • @mamodokod4613
    @mamodokod4613 Жыл бұрын

    Smash Flash just plays INFINITELY BETTER then Crusade in my opinion even though Crusade has more characters.

  • @heitorsant1759
    @heitorsant17592 ай бұрын

    Ya coulda thrown smash flash 1 for funsies

  • @cbennett6060
    @cbennett6060 Жыл бұрын

    I would love someone like Terra(Tina) from FF6 as secondary rep for the FF series. No edgy emo boys with swords too big to work

  • @timmyb.3426
    @timmyb.34265 ай бұрын

    Crusade Ness feels better than SSF2 Ness in my opinion.

  • @RediteTheGemBoy
    @RediteTheGemBoy5 ай бұрын

    Crusade!

  • @cueshq789
    @cueshq789 Жыл бұрын

    Crusade fox is better imo considering you can waveshine

  • @unidentifiedperson1357
    @unidentifiedperson1357 Жыл бұрын

    as an animator and pixel artist, its hard for me to like crusade, because there is no coherent style

  • @Kostianovsky
    @Kostianovsky Жыл бұрын

    i tink you don't know about difference and is not something that i loved to hear

  • @chibk
    @chibk Жыл бұрын

    The only thing I disagree with is his take on Luigi. Ssf2 luigi negs bro, mainly due to movement

  • @IIIISai

    @IIIISai

    Жыл бұрын

    all ssf2 movesets are cleaner and faster, but crusade is more creative, i understand why he likes crusade luigi more

  • @chibk

    @chibk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IIIISai yeah but ssf2 just went over the top with designing luigi. He's too clean

  • @supermudkipz
    @supermudkipz Жыл бұрын

    Let's jump the gun a little: Crusade Automatically wins because it has Weegee.