Great test! So indeed there is different software and Duster2 is better, especially on 3 rollers. Thank you! 👍

Thanks for this new test. I expected such a result with the optimized management of this Duster II.

Thank you for this super test! I have Duster 2 and I'm fappy to see they made some software improvements. Can't wait for snow here in Slovenija! :)

@cosmins3268

5 жыл бұрын

fappy :)))

Nice test! I have been waiting for it :)

Przypomnienie włączone, czekamy! :)

It looks like they have renew the software, new Duster is way better then the older one. Nice test, thanks for sharing.

@giannisprotopappas3431

5 жыл бұрын

There should be other changes (mechanical) or am I missing something? In "LOCK" & "ESP OFF" there should be no software intervation

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@giannisprotopappas3431 "LOCK" & "ESP OFF" means that the engine power won't be cut. But traction control (brakes intervention) remains active.

@giannisprotopappas3431

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks for the update, Nevertheless I thought ESP intervenes to engine;s power supply and to the brakes. So deactivating should have no more impact on brakes as well. Is traction control another system on Duster?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@giannisprotopappas3431 ESP intervens to engine power and brakes during dynamic driving when car goes into a skid (understeer, overster), it also cuts engine power when there is slippage during start. Traction control intervens only when there is traction loss during start or at low speeds and it is very often impossible to turn it off. That is very common, not only in Duster.

@vasilebirzu4014

3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers hy guys. I need too buy 3 stk at rollers . Haw and were I can buy them . ?? Please help me ?

Nice, good thing I am getting new Duster.

Yes very nice video and informative, thank you my friend :)

Excellent video!

Man thank you for the test. This is definitely nice improvement for Duster. I guess its best to use esp off and lock in offroad.

@bernardhossmoto

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is the go-to setting on almost every AWD vehicle going offroad (or in deep snow).

@ObsesifAdam

5 жыл бұрын

Sanırım yazılımı değiştirmişler.

@napraznicul

5 жыл бұрын

Not at all! It's the best to use a Suzuki Jimny in offroad at that budget. Or even a lada niva. Both are cheaper (sh) than a new duster and waaaaaaay more offroad capable that duster which is a car prepaired to sent your kids at kidgarden with your wife behind the wheel :)))

@virajmuhendisi

5 жыл бұрын

Kanka yazdığını Türkçe'ye çevirir misin?

@GiorgiGachechiladze02

4 жыл бұрын

@@napraznicul New Jimny is actually slightly more expensive than duster, but on the other hand Duster is universal car while Jimny is covered Quad Bike and in some off road situations duster is better, so not much difference even in that aspect

I’m a bit surprised and quite disappointed that the Duster seems front-wheel drive biased. Note the 3-roller tests, front grip vs rear grip. The old Duster couldn’t even get off the rollers in the last test. However, the Dusters seem very capable in real world situations. Thanks for testing

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Vig Haralds These kind of systems are fwd biased, that is the most popular layout.

@zepter00

5 жыл бұрын

Vig Haralds wtf you talking about? 95 % of all souch cars are FWD biased

I cant wait

Thanks... Anyway, I don't understand how in my 2018 Duster (1.5 diesel) the EDL works fine in AUTO mode, while in your test it seems not to work. In AUTO mode (WITH ESP ON) I can feel the rear brake on the free wheel that clamps many times. Maybe in your test the condition are "desperate" and small clampings in AUTO mode are not enough to push the car out. The test is very clear... I wonder if it can be upgraded in the older Duster with a new firmware.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Luca Tomasello I'm not sure what you mean. On two rollers it is all quite similar. On three rollers when only one front wheel has grip car works better in AUTO mode. On three rollers when only one rear wheel has grip car works better in LOCK mode.

@lucatomasello7889

5 жыл бұрын

duszaniespokojna, yes. It seems similar to what I have seen in my car. Onestly Is can't put my car in rollers. My observation is to say that in AUTO mode, the EDL works too. But I don't really understand why the car remains n the rollers in your test. If you can repeat the test you can hear the rear brake closing and opening many times in AUTO mode too!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Luca Tomasello How can you hear that it is rear brake, not front one? ;) I was also surprised that car passed three roller test ( only one front wheel with grip) in AUTO mode and failed in LOCK mode. My only guess is that in LOCK mode systems allows for much more wheel spin (like e.g in Suzuki), what is necessary in many offroad conditions.

@lucatomasello7889

5 жыл бұрын

duszaniespokojna i didn' heard braking in front wheels

@zepter00

5 жыл бұрын

Luca Tomasello you didn’t test your car on rollers. For your information on rollers wheel has grip very close to ZERO if not zero traction.

Real diff locks awesome after seeing this.

Thanks...duster II...is better with one rear grip

Интересно а будет ли на новом дастере комплектация :дизель, полный привод и акпп? Может знает кто

Great video. How does one buy a roller? What is it exactly called?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, rollers are custom made.

@sumitroin

3 жыл бұрын

4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel thanks for the prompt response!

Mialem starego dustera 4x4 i teraz mam nowego. Widze lepszy naped w nowym.

I think 1.5 dci were more potent, had some torque 👍🏻👍🏻btw, i waited for this video for long time

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Dani Duster I 1.5 dCi gets the same result as Duster I 1.6 16V. I don't think it would be different in Duster II.

Is the distance between front and rear tyres on the newer one a few milimeters longer than the older one? If both cars used the same rollers with a fixed setting, it must have made a difference. If there is no difference and it is all about the software, is it possible to update the older one's ECU with the newer one's configuration?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

Datasheet says it is 2676 mm for 4WD version (2674 mm for 2WD), so 3 mm more than older one - 2673 m. I have no idea if it is possible to update the software.

@zepter00

2 жыл бұрын

There is no diffrence

About the test with only one rear wheel on ground: try to pull the hand break some times. This is gonna cause a difference between front and rear axis, overheating the viscous silicone inside the clutch of central differential, causing a real 4WD Lock.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

Duster doesn't have center differential. It doesn't have viscous clutch-pack neither, it uses electromagnetic coupler.

@zepter00

2 жыл бұрын

You write comments but you have aero idea what Duster has. Test onrollers explained it.

Hello, From where I can get 3 rollers that you used for this test? Can you give me please the source from where I can buy them? Thanks!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Cristian Cojocaru Hello, they are DIY :)

@cristiancojocaru3369

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, can you send me same photos, please !?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@cristiancojocaru3369 We are sorry, but recently we are getting so many requests about it that we decided not to answer them. However our videos are in full hd, so you can take a print screen from any of them.

@cristiancojocaru3369

5 жыл бұрын

Ok, I understand very well. Thanks 👍

So it has the Nissan Xtrail system, but now it has the "intelligent" that distributes torque wheel by wheel?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

Since 2013/2014 (if I remember well) it has traction control and ESP systems.

Rear wheel traction is pretty bad on many cars when using 3 rollers.

@1mandas

3 жыл бұрын

Because haldex

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

@@1mandas No. Many cars with haldex can easily pass this test.

good

The chassis is the same as the first generation and the other! There are different springs and all the hits

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

And what about it?

Скажите пожалуйста какой из них был дизель??

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Both petrol.

¿Que motor tiene la Duster azul?... Pensaría que tiene el mismo motor del anterior. Sí tuviera el nuevo motor 1.3 Turbo, creería que el resultado sería diferente.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

Like in intro and description - both 1.6 I don't think that 1.3 turbo would get different result - this test is about awd system itself.

dissapointing that the ammount of torque sent to the back is so low. having trouble without an incline is a sign that if you have little traction and a lot on one wheel you will struggle a lot.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

How do you know that amount of torque sent to the rear is low?

Sprzedacie później te auta? Wiecie że kiedy jedno koło osi stoi w miejscu a drugie szybko się obraca to na mechanizm różnicowy działają duże siły co często doprowadza do zużycia a w najgorszym razie do rozerwania mechanizmu? Parę skrzyń z pękniętą obudową mechanizmu różnicowego widziałem.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Nie wiem, co dealer robi z autami demo, ale nie ma to znaczenia. Na obydwa koła (lewe i prawe) przekazywany jest dokładnie taki sam moment obrotowy i jest on niewielki, tu nie ma żadnych przeszkód, podjazdu czy ciężkiej przyczepy z tyłu.

@zepter00

2 жыл бұрын

Gościu pierniczysz jak potłuczony.

what is de difference in the last experiment ??? I can´t see it : (

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the last test? DD2 could handle the situation where only one rear wheel had grip. DD1 couldn't.

@ubipatumbi

3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ..yes i see but i can´t see what is the reason ...what is the concrete diference between these two dusters ..... is the EDL ?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

@@ubipatumbi Different software for EDL and awd systems.

@ubipatumbi

3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok !!! then is a software difference !!! Thanks you !!!

The dusterII has a so called secret function with esp off and lock mode. It tries to emulate the behavior of three lockers. It is not officially announced but I am an owner and I have been told so in the service.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

Жыл бұрын

That is a standard function of traction control and it works in every mode but on different level. It is not a secret, manuals include this info.

@Gklasse

Жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Not in the manual , it is not referred , not in the greek one at least

Duster 2 vs Vitara? Both 4x4, 1.3 tce 150 hp vs 1.4T 140 hp. Thanks!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't test 1.3 but here is Duster 2 1.6 vs Vitara: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXapo82zdbrch7A.html

@2Bad2Real

3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers But what would be your personal choice. Thanks!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

@@2Bad2Real If you are going to stay on road (no matter what kind of surface) then definitely Vitara. If you plan to go offroad often - then Duster. Other factor is reliability - these cars are on the opposite sides of rankings...

@2Bad2Real

3 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers reliability meaning? Can you expand a little please? Thank you!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

@@2Bad2Real Suzuki cars are always on top of reliability rankings, these cars almost never brake. Duster unfortunately has a lot of malfunctions that's why it is on the bottom of reliability rankings.

Niby lepiej, ale to wciąż nie to... szkoda. Dzięki za filmik.

@krys8870

5 жыл бұрын

Nadrabia geometrią nadwozia i solidną osłoną silnika, a to sporo mniej stresu w terenie. Że o relatywnie tanich częściach w razie co nie wspomnę. Na śliski asfalt z pewnością są lepsze systemy AWD.

Hy guy. I have a question. I need too buy 3 stk at rolls. From were I can buy them ??.please help me

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

Custom made.

Ranault kadjar please

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 ай бұрын

If we only find it...

@PiNYoN_03

3 ай бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers haha thanks

Mokka X, when?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Romeo DAMIAN I still can't find volunteer with Mokka X....

@RomeoDAMIAN

5 жыл бұрын

duszaniespokojna , if i’ll come to Poland, i will give you mine car ... ;)

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

@@RomeoDAMIAN Here it is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fG1klbWEhbyriLA.html

The test is inadequate. The Duster I diver has less experience than the other (imo).

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

8 ай бұрын

This is a test of cars, not the drivers. All they have to do is keeping the accelerator depressed.

@mushupat

8 ай бұрын

Different drivers are causing a different test results. @@4x4.tests.on.rollers

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

8 ай бұрын

​@@mushupatOn this test, driver is doing nothing except keeping the accelerator steady and waiting for the reaction of the car. That's the idea of the tests.

@mushupat

8 ай бұрын

Ok, explain to me please the rollback on the thrust on Duster I. Thank you. @@4x4.tests.on.rollers

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

8 ай бұрын

@@mushupat Intervention of engine traction control and brake traction control.

30 29 28...'

Ovo je namesteno pa ona ima bolje vice od Audija hahaha!!!!!!

enough to turn the wheel! wystarczy, aby przekręcić kołem!!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

fronklin1 W jakim celu?

Лучше жесткой блокировки ничего нет! Гелендеваген этому доказательство... Только стоит "немного" дороже😁

There is no difference between the Duster I and Duster II mechanically! Sorry! It's the same car mechanically.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Yeap, but it is not the same when it comes to software.

@DaciaProject

5 жыл бұрын

Meaning what exactly?!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@DaciaProject In this case - meaning the software which controls the operation of awd & traction control systems.

Nu este nici o diferența din punct de vedere mecanic , transmisia este aceeași . Încearcă sa folosești un singur șofer pentru ambele mașini .

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Razvan Gogonea Software of awd system is for sure different. ABS/TC sensors/controllers may be different to.

@Hi.Al.

5 жыл бұрын

This is frustration, an old and more powerfull and more luxurious Pathfinder would never have this problems, I am willing to lend one of my Pathfinders to the test. One with 1 owner and 100.000km costs 10.000€ from 2007

@aLtta1

5 жыл бұрын

@@Hi.Al. and is 11 years old... That means you can't trust the car as much as a new one from the point of reliability... Not to mention the categories oo the cars that differ and the engines....

@aLtta1

5 жыл бұрын

Ravan, mecanica este aceeasi dar partea de soft este schimbata,mai buna, si diferenta se vede...

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@Razvan J If you are talking about 2007 Pathfinder, it actually has almost the same awd system as Duster, just in opposite layout, front axle is the "active" one.

And still only a 3 star safety rating...

ALUPIGUS !!!!

@TheHunterRengarMain

5 жыл бұрын

:)))

😂😂😂😂

Audi quattro my ass😂

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

2 жыл бұрын

Dacia Duster 4WD vs Audi Q3 Quattro: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIWN1tOum7jApaQ.html

@STR1XDLB

2 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Weird.what type of quattro is that?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

2 жыл бұрын

@@STR1XDLB Q3 uses haldex. Here's Duster 4WD vs A4 Allroad with quattro ultra: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g5ihwZKiaaiweKw.html

@STR1XDLB

2 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Do newer haldex also have LSD on the back or just the front?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

2 жыл бұрын

@@STR1XDLB They have front and rear open differentials.

This duster 1 need service :p

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@Marios 1 Service? Why?

There is not even one little mechanical difference between those two transmission. Same bullshit 20% rear as everyone could see. Huge FAKE "lock" function (center diff should be locked and torque should be sent 50/50, then electronics via abs braking system, should sent torque to wheel which spin without grip) Which is your personal conclusion?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@napraznicul Where did you get the info about 20%? Indeed these systems are the same from mechanical point of view, software is different.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

napraznicul You are writing tens of such comments under different movies, always without any back-up or arguments. Show me the source of that 20% etc.

@napraznicul

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollersarguments? Watch your video carefully then you'see difference between how torque came when is sent to front and to rear. Then ..if really want to know "my backup", go with these cars on mustang dyno awd with a qualified person for work with that dyno. You'll see there with proper test settings.. if you really want to know, not only to make money with help of absolutely non-technical viewers who doesn't have knowledge not even only theoretical..as you :))). They like to see some results of test and you.. make content as they like :)).. the same way as the dyno testers who ask owner of car.." how much bhp your car have?", then guess what? -measurement result is little bit over that amount of bhp and everybody is pleased :)))

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

napraznicul Again the same. You are trying to be smarter than everybody, but it looks like you don't even know what torque is. And no back up of course, no sources. How can you see the torque in the video?

@napraznicul

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers are you kidding or you're really like ..seems? Torque isn't only the force who push the conrod in combustion engine, torque is also ANY force who move transmission and sent to the wheels. I don't know why ..you look to me like a kid who after reading a few promo papers from some automotive producers, decided it's time to make money on youtube via auto domain :))) I do not write wery well in english, but if you were a romanian language speaker, probably i would put a huge shame on you in a direct discussion.. as from a "specialist" (as you try to look like) and an average man who DID modified (hardware only) himself a lot of cars starting from 2004 :))) But you got a lot of noise in the mouth to keep your "specialist image" clean here, because otherwise the subscribers will be gone, youtube money- gone.. then you'll have to Work for living :))))

nu le mai chinuiti !!!! atata timp cat nu are functia de blocare diferential le frecati aiurea !!!!

What the fuck they r doing