Check out Adam’s video where he discovers how to build this prop and shows you the process! kzread.info/dash/bejne/doSI15ZwdqXRoMo.html The TESTED channel is awesome and definitely deserves your subscription!

@Ravenxback

Жыл бұрын

first reply! you are INCREDIBLE in your vfx, continue getting better and being amazing!

@ItsDeadlock

Жыл бұрын

Did he add the time spent researching the film prop and designing it in? The video just said manufacture time for it so unsure.

@fireteamthor1518

Жыл бұрын

Squibs!!!

@MansonMamaril

Жыл бұрын

FXBusters!!!

@steamer2k319

Жыл бұрын

What about a hybrid approach where you squirt practical blood from a half blade with a CG/digital point/tip?

We cannot WAIT to do this again.

@jordanjamison97

Жыл бұрын

It's so fun to watch these collabs between separate content creators I've been following for over a decade

@ghostriderthespiritofvenge7299

Жыл бұрын

Ya....

@bullymaguiregaming1757

Жыл бұрын

Do the staff job, double the money

@firkejdjneii28283

Жыл бұрын

Adam Savage is a mad savage

@toscanius

Жыл бұрын

When you see people with that have so much passions, it is very heartwarming.

This 100,000% needs to be a recurring series: Corridor's Practical vs. Digital Effects, with Adam Savage. This is the first series I would actually pay for on either channel.

@wilkesreid

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@paulsullivan649

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'd 100% signup to watch this series.

@beakerbkr

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Id pay for this

@unkn0vvnmystery

Жыл бұрын

and there should be 2 to 3 Digital Effect takes 1. same time as practical 2. practical and Digital 3. if needed how ever long it takes.

@Juniversal

Жыл бұрын

Yes please. I've been hoping they'd have a series where they would focus on practical effects and animontronics (either an fx artist react series or something hands on like in this video). That would be amazing.

Not going to lie I thought Adam Savage was going to let you guys slice open his face out of pure dedication

@blaghgames5050

Жыл бұрын

Same lmao

@ScoutTF2Gaming

Жыл бұрын

same

@ExcellentSunset

Жыл бұрын

Same

@ryanv3841

Жыл бұрын

We were clock baited

@3Faidonas3

Жыл бұрын

Same, very dissapointed with this clickbait lol

It’s so refreshing when you see ppl especially experienced adults, still getting excited, and acting like a child when doing the career they love. It adds extra passion and quality to the thing they produce

@WiseSageBum

Жыл бұрын

Adam Savage and Wren both really bring that energy, and I'm here for it!

@Catnippy

Жыл бұрын

i adore how giddy Adam gets when projects work out

@lutobor13

Жыл бұрын

@@Catnippy You can use Adam to power a small town when he is exited about things.

@Aethelvlad

Жыл бұрын

it adds meaning to life, we all should be so lucky

@Oatmea1L

10 ай бұрын

So you're saying it's childish to be excited?

THIS needs to be an actual show “VFX vs Real”. This was really fun.

@bghoody5665

Жыл бұрын

With Adam Savage as co-host.

@djhenyo

Жыл бұрын

It's not even close to fair when the CGI team gets to watch the practical effects team first and then emulate their real-life model. Bullshit...

@shortbusheros4

Жыл бұрын

@@djhenyo but that happens like...all the time in vfx industry.

@djhenyo

Жыл бұрын

@@shortbusheros4 but that means like...you gotta count extra time on CGI team

@sir_al3x

Жыл бұрын

@@djhenyo but it’s obviously much more difficult to replicate. plus, in future vids, they both could just be given a goal to complete rather than to copy something

This could be a whole series of practical versus CG. You could have even guests come in to add their specialties or recreate their shots on time and money budgets.

@amberferrell2951

Жыл бұрын

Yes that would be so fun to watch!

@Bonesawisready926

Жыл бұрын

They'd probably make bank if they gave some free episodes and then put the rest on their website behind the paywall.

@lukeswinson6018

Жыл бұрын

Would I’ve to see this kind of stuff!!!

@cupajoe99

Жыл бұрын

This

@Lance_Tonkin98

Жыл бұрын

Yeashhh!!

I think the biggest thing that makes practical effects stand out is the reactions from everyone involved. The genuine surprise from the blood splattering on the face of the guy holding Adam really sells the scene in my opinion

@masterjo_6703

Жыл бұрын

So true raven

@LordBaktor

Жыл бұрын

For sure, the biggest advantage that practical effects have is that they are actually present. Both in terms of reactions from the actors and in terms of believability.

@maikatase

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the filming of the Hobbit where Sir Ian McKellen got really upset because he had to constantly film greenscreen scenes in isolation

@lotrdude13

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Wren's reaction was gold

@ryancarrell3186

Жыл бұрын

oh for sure ideally, a mix of both would be perfect. practical for a base, VFX to fix any small issues.

Wren's expressions when being splattered with blood is so convincing like "man i CAN'T believe you messed me up too"

@John-X

Ай бұрын

ya really good shot & he didn't break character

I’d love to see the reverse of this where you guys create a vfx shot and set the time limit. And Adam has to match it practically

@itsjulianros

Жыл бұрын

TOTALLY

@RikFTK

Жыл бұрын

This. So much this!

@kaeviason7476

Жыл бұрын

Corridor: *vfx shot of meteor destroying city* Adam: *destroys new york with paper mache meteor*

@jocax188723

Жыл бұрын

@@kaeviason7476 Make it like a city block getting wrecked somehow, and that would work perfectly. With the guys’ expertise in 3D printing and Adam’s expertise in miniatures this could be absolutely amazing.

@TokyoSpeirs

Жыл бұрын

This!!

Holy cow. Wrens reaction was absolutely phenomenal. He seems so genuinely disgusted and shocked about the blood being on him for just the right amount of time and then immediately snaps right back into bad guy mode and even tightens his grip on Adam. Really great stuff

@alphaphoenicis

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely Wren's reaction is what sells the practical one - it feels authentic. Would really like to know what the additional VFX time was to patch up the dodgy knife tip to hit the perfect hybrid shot.

@kiro253

Жыл бұрын

Its bcoz he IS DISGUSTED he didnt expect the blood to splat that much on his face...crazy stuff love it!

@SeanBlader

Жыл бұрын

This is really what absolutely sells the practical version. Even great actors have the hardest time reacting to imaginary things. Reactions are probably the hardest part of an actors job.

@zoeywyllie1411

Жыл бұрын

The reaction he gives has such a primal anger to it. If we didn't know it was a performance, I would 100% he was about to kill Adam

Adam and Wren flinching back from the actual blood splattering their face really was the lynchpin, wasn't it? It sold that hit so well!

I definitely think that cleaned up practical takes the cake, mostly for Wren's reaction. He had no idea he was going to get splattered, and all the subsequent takes that reaction never seems to match the utter surprise in that first shot.

@maidenreligion12

Жыл бұрын

Especially because he immediately came back in with a grimace. That's really what sold his reaction for me. His genuine surprise followed by angry henchman without missing a beat.

Wrens expression of the blood getting on his face is just perfect, his shocked expression is great and how he changes back to being serious is just amazing

@just_doug

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing, love that commitment.

@zZiL341yRj736

Жыл бұрын

Good acting.

@albr4

Жыл бұрын

That's why sometimes they do things in filming without telling the actors beforehand that it's going to happen to get a genuine reaction.

@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse

Жыл бұрын

I think actually having the real splatter makes the actor react with a better timing as its all down to micro seconds differences.

@Magictrickslol

Жыл бұрын

It really sold it even more. Great stuff.

I think my favorite part of the practical is the flash of just *disgust* that shows on Wren's face when the blood hits him. It's such a minor movement, one that he probably didn't even realize he did, but like they were saying at the end it's so much more real for it.

@nadamada8328

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. That small, momentary shock is hard to replicate. Additionally, I love his grimace after that, where he has to go back into mean tough guy mode.

@brettcombs774

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree.

@matthewturpin6429

Жыл бұрын

@@nadamada8328 It is really difficult to sell a surprise reaction to something that you actually *know* is coming. Either giving it away by 'reacting' before you would conceivably have been able to, or having such a delayed reaction that it feels forced. That's for sure always going to be a strength of practical effects, that the actor will have a mostly genuine reaction to an actual event.

@potatoguy5428

Жыл бұрын

Ye

@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice

Жыл бұрын

Same, I love the squinting

I wonder how long it would have taken them, if they first did the digital. They kinda had a head start, because they could see and use the practical footage. But I totally agree with the end-conclusion: the mixture of practical and vfx is the best.

@ImminDragon

Жыл бұрын

They also had the knife already made, which they didn't count against the digital like they did for the practical.

@npcimknot958

Жыл бұрын

5his. if they didn't have anything to go by. also the acting from. the practical is better cause the blood hitting gives u a better reaction

@McMeatBag

Жыл бұрын

@@ImminDragon That is something they didn't take into account. Both shots required specific made props, the digital prop was just more simplistic.

@amiassullivan7854

Жыл бұрын

The same could be said for how the vfx would have more time if they included the sourcing of the knife

@ThreeGoddesses

Жыл бұрын

@@ImminDragon To be fair, thats like 5 minutes on the grinding wheel. Its a nonissue. Most of the build time was actually engineering the moving tip and attaching the bleed device.

You know. I think the BIGGEST difference here is how much fun they had in the practical shot vs how much stress the VFX artist was experiencing trying to match the time. I think stress and time constrains would be the biggest factor in this competition.

This should be a whole series. Both sides having experts in their crafts, and both having such a clear respect for each other. I could watch this all day long

@Saotik

Жыл бұрын

This could be a TV show.

@hellomark1

Жыл бұрын

I want them to take it a step further, and maybe make their own low-budget miniseries they could post on their Corridor channel. Maybe a series that gets a new chapter every few months or so. Hell they could keep it simple and have them playing action versions of themselves like they did for this short bit

@hellomark1

Жыл бұрын

Coining it: "Savageverse" also Jamie shows up in season 4

@Tolredan

Жыл бұрын

Not only that, I want extended cuts

Wren's reaction in the practical scene sells it, the man knows how to act, his reaction to the blood splatter is perfect, half second of "UGH!" and then right back to being the baddies minion

@JovemEverton

Жыл бұрын

That's what's really cool. It's barely acting. He actually reacted to something being splattered on his face and let his guard down for a bit.

@VainerCactus0

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree.

@nighpaw4651

Жыл бұрын

yeah, and I really like how he keeps looking between adam and niko

@ebadkhan7649

Жыл бұрын

I love the point brought up in this video about practical effects having an impact on performance. Wren has made it so clear.

@Badspot

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Also when they compare it to the original shot, it really shows why Jack Nicholson is a famous actor and Adam Savage is not, lol.

I couldn't get over wren's facial expressions cause they we're so good

@evylinredwood

Жыл бұрын

That absolute level of disgust brings SO much to the shot.

@SpaceMissile

Жыл бұрын

@@evylinredwood it totally does! he looks absolutely offended the very first time he gets the blood on his face

Adam seems like the funnest guy to be around. Even back in Mythbusters, his childlike wonder and passion are so inspiring!

It’s amazing you guys have developed a relationship with Adam. So cool seeing a childhood hero working with my favourite creators

@natejc93

Жыл бұрын

He’s their childhood hero too. It’s so wholesome!

@Bonesawisready926

Жыл бұрын

I still put on Mythbusters whenever I'm just hanging around the house or to put it on in the background while I'm doing something. Kids don't know what they are missing out on. I miss Mythbusters, Modern Marvels, How it's Made etc. actual educational television.

@jarvalicious4908

Жыл бұрын

@@Bonesawisready926 even kids shows have changed. They used to have some kind of structure from episode to episode, and they were usually written by comedians or really smart people. Nowadays we’ve got Baby Shark and JoJo Siwa

@Bonesawisready926

Жыл бұрын

@@jarvalicious4908 I showed my nephew what I grew up with and he hated the shit. That broke my heart when I showed him the Justice Society America episode of the Justice League cartoon (which made me cry as a kid because of John Stewart's arc in that episode) and he lost interest 10 minutes in. I don't think dumbing down kid's entertainment is necessarily going to have a good effect.

@jarvalicious4908

Жыл бұрын

@@Bonesawisready926 oh holy shit yes. That’s such a good example

This might be too complicated, but the face melting scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark would make an excellent practical/digital test.

@davetaylor2088

Жыл бұрын

Upvote on this one

@LotRFanFilm

Жыл бұрын

YES PLEASE

@Shrimp_Insurance

Жыл бұрын

Practical could just be different colored layers of wax, I think it would be a totally doable video

@americanpancakelive

Жыл бұрын

Except that the original scene is not a classical "practical effect" as it does involve camera trickery and was not done live on set. Live on set with other actors reacting is I think what the boys are thinking. Just my opinion.

@twistedyogert

Жыл бұрын

Or the rapid aging scene from the last crusade.

Practical take 1 might be my new all time favourite blood splatter. The pattern, the timing, the reaction, everything just came together in pure perfection!

@6:44 "under the most egregious duress" is a phrase with such a lovely texture.

This needs to be an actual series. A collab between Corridor Digital and Adam Savage where you guys compete in every episode to see who can create the best special effects. I would absolutely watch the s*** out of that show! You can even bring in guest artists in both practical and digital effects. Please make this happen!

@scaleythedino49

Жыл бұрын

Same

@IcecalGamer

Жыл бұрын

Competition and difference in approach; PLUS, at the end, colab. Like in this one. I'd also like more details on the process of digital FX. Adam went in (almost) step-by-step detail, in his video.

@VegasA3

Жыл бұрын

Million dollar idea. Streaming services would prob pick that up ngl

@5elited

Жыл бұрын

Yeeeesss, I thought the exact same thing when Adam said it was the most fun he's had in a while. That would be so fun to watch.

@Varanos7

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this! They could call it "Corridor Tested"

I love seeing Adam so genuinely excited to hang out and create with the Corridor people. The two of you share the same boundless enthusiasm for *process* and artistry, but counterbalance each other perfectly with your respective fields and experience. This isn't just production, it's *play* - and to me that's the essence of creating art. Hope to see much more Adam content in the future, not just for my enjoyment, but clearly Adam's as well. Such genuine work, folks - great job!

@isaackim7675

Жыл бұрын

If Jake didn’t break down the guillotine Adam Savage would’ve been the perfect guest star

@dbxdragan

Жыл бұрын

Came in comments to say exactly this. Adam is such a genuine person that's really excited about what he does. It's a joy to watch him together with Niko and Wren.

You can get some really good stuff with VFX, but that practical effect as an aid for the acting just really shows. Wren's face when he gets splattered with blood is absolutely visceral and genuine and I love it.

9:54 You can REALLY see the difference in ren's acting because in one you're getting your face covered in blood and in the other neither of you are.

Watching the pure joy and fun that Adam is having with these guys is so special, they have great chemistry. Not a single ounce of passion has dwindled for the industry in all his years, that's magic

The satisfied laughter of Adam after seeing a project come together is just such a joy every time. Great video guys!!

@krns1695

Жыл бұрын

my favorite part of the video is his laugh

I absolutely loved this video. The fact that everyone had so much fun doing it just makes it even better. This definitely needs to become a regular thing.

Vex are great but the hardest part is always interacting with actors . I think they both have their practical places.

There is something magical seeing Adam with all his experience and passion for practical effects with people that has the same amount of passion and energy for VFX just going at it. The chemistry between these people is just perfect, cause they are so alike. The absolute joy when seeing something cool, the need to figure something out and the ability to not only do things well, but also explain it well due to their understanding of their craft and experience. I for one toss another vote in for more Practical vs Digital!

I'm sold on this being a fully produced series! The first two acts of every episode is all about building the effects, the design process, hiccups and breakthroughs, the third act is bringing them together, showing it off, and pointing out the advantages and setbacks of both methods. Really brings back my nostalgia of Mythbusters.

@Chance57

Жыл бұрын

I'd be over the moon for that. The last time I actually tuned in to broadcast TV was to watch face off on Syfy. It's been years! If this was coming out as a series, I wouldn't even need these particular guys. You could pit random Digital and practical VFX studios and workshops against one another even. I wouldn't care if it was smaller names we never heard of or Weta vs ILM, I'm sure it'd be captivating all the same.

@R-R-H

Жыл бұрын

Came to the comments section to say this.. hope they can work it into their schedules cause I feel this would be huge with Adam’s Mythbuster fan base

@crinsim7536

Жыл бұрын

all it takes is adams laugh

@MalLoHi

Жыл бұрын

i was the 1 mil commenter

I just re-watched this video 'cause I absolutely love not only the collaboration of Corridor and Adam, but the duality of practical vs digital. Dissecting practical stunts/effects is super fun and recreating it is a very interesting. I'm sure it's crossed everyone's minds at Corridor, but I do miss this. Adam seemed super enthusiastic about doing another and I think everyone in the audience wants to see more as well.

This was so awesome! As someone who really loves physical effects actually seeing how they compare with digital through the eyes of production and not just results was really neat. And the practical with finishing effects is just so clean and makes my heart happy. You’ve gotta do this again!

A collaboration of different VFX generations! You can tell Adam and Corridor really have a fun synergy about them!

@XxJasper210

Жыл бұрын

The fact SoCloseToToast watches Corridor is so fkn awesome Keep it up bro love the vids. It's like two icons giving respect where respect is due.

@NickC_222

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Adam and the Corridor Digital guys we see on camera have a very similar vibe and energy level. The synergy is so good. We need more collaboration videos from these guys!

@lioneldaviessesa

Жыл бұрын

Esh

@sparsons61

Жыл бұрын

Lol been watching you for years

@over8124

2 ай бұрын

you're so fucking annoying

The mythbusters crew remain as the coolest people to me to this day. I always admire people who can build stuff that works.

@jayzesty7497

Жыл бұрын

Same here, I love getting to see Adam Savage more!

This is so great! I loved how Wren was struggling not to smile during filming. I want more of this! I love the combination of practical and digital, it's a huge part of why productions like the LotR series and the Jurassic Park series were as beautiful as they were! You all implemented that beautifully! You guys with Adam are the PERFECT combination! 🥰

Can I just say how good everyone's acting in this was. Especially Adams glare before the knife slashes his nose and Rens reaction to the blood and mean look as he struggles to hold Adam.

Hearing Adam say that this is the most fun he's had in a while warms my heart. You guys mean a lot to us, even to the ones you guys look up to! ♥

DO MORE of THIS. Amazing! You have a TON of content about that

@davisdf3064

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! That was a trip!

@lunarvision

Жыл бұрын

Yes!! This could definitely become a fascinating & popular new segment of CGI v Practical.

@lorenzzorzt

Жыл бұрын

eita mano até o max tá aqui

It's so much fun seeing how much fun Mr. Savage was having with this challenge. Assuming it wasn't faking of course, but it certainly seemed genuine.

Probably my favorite corridor video so far. I’d love a series like this with you guys and Adam.

I was thinking that Adam would be a great guest for the Noob-does-CGI series, but then I thought "nah, he'd just disassemble the computer and make the sistine chapel out of the parts"

having Adam savage himself tell you that your work is amazing and that he'd love to do more in the future as a graphics artist must be possibly the highest praise you could ever receive

@moseszero3281

Жыл бұрын

Love AS - He can literally do an hour video talking about sorting screws and I will watch it. He has such passion and it comes across in everything he does.

@lx4302

Жыл бұрын

no

@alexanderwoolley1623

Жыл бұрын

@@lx4302 yes

@BruhMoment-re8nc

Жыл бұрын

@@moseszero3281 i literally have watched him doing a 3 hour video of hitting a big ball of tin foil and it was fantastic

My suggestion for digital versus practical: human body through glass window. Excited for the next one. Good luck.

I love this exploration of resolutions to visual effects! Both techniques are complex and amazing in their own way. I would love to see more of this in the future videos :)

This is what cgi is really good at, not replacing everything but enhancing what is there Making a prop look more like the real thing

@saent5368

Жыл бұрын

well, I'm sure that cgi helps when it comes to large scale effects. E.g Apocalypse type effects (tsunami, earthquake etc). Where I think practical effects really enhances the situation is how there's less confusion in knowing what the end product of a scene is meant to be.

@Werewolf914

Жыл бұрын

Exactly they work great hand in hand, I was recently watching Dead Meats interview with Tom Savini (the God of Practical Effects) who was the SFX Supervisor on The Black Phone and even he says his team does CG to enhance things, or do something quicker and wishes that we had this technology back in the day, because it really does help using them both hand in hand, both effects have pros and cons

@ThaBeatConductor

Жыл бұрын

@@saent5368 I wish more people jumped onto the way Peter Jackson did LotR with "big-atures". The scene that comes to mind particularly is the flooding of Isengard. They actually did that. Water sims are close to being realistic, but there is still a ways to go when it comes to micro-interactions. Though there are plenty of examples of things that could never have been done practically.

I would love to see more of this! One note: I think next time you shouldn't show the practical shot to the VFX artist before they do their take. Having the practical take as a reference gives the vfx artist a big advantage

@royjf10

Жыл бұрын

It would be really interesting to see how the shots differ from one another when there's the guesswork involved with the VFX without the practical reference.

@fiveoneecho

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t consider this, but yeah having them have to find their own reference is much more authentic…

@UXXV

Жыл бұрын

Good point!

@Stig69

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. Or give one guy the reference, while another uses his imagination. Could be cool! But that's another body needed ha.

@alexkfridges

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

Honestly, one of the best vids I've seen on KZread. This was really fun and you guys should definitely do a series of these VFX vs PRACTICAL experiments!!

Love how the practical shot, got blood on both. Practical for me will always be preferred. But like another comment I saw, a hybrid shot would be awesome. The acting from the actors would be authentic and easier for them to play out but with the render of visual would give it more (don’t think I worded this great lol)

Every single time the practical shot was shown all I could look at was Wrens reaction. It is just such a good reaction. Both him and Adam are stunned and then when Adam starts to struggle you can see Wren holds him back and his face just tightens. So good.

@mmjf674

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I loved that too. Wrens acting was on point for this

The camaraderie that formed between Adam and the Corridor Crew is so profound and I'm glad to have witnessed it.

Tested + Corridor Crew = perfect and fun! I would love to see more crossovers with all of you fine folks!

I hope these two channels and all those behind them just go on to collaborate until they're done with the platform! I love seeing these guys together!

This has a lot of mythbustery vibes, setting up a question about something and finding out the answer as an exploration by doing the thing with skilled people explaining all the pitfalls. So satisfying

Two things: 1.) I would actually argue the thing that gave away the digital effect was the extension of the knife's tip as it went into the nose. Something wasn't quite right there, though it's tough for me to put my finger on *what*. 2.) The next *obvious* choice for this series (which is genuinely AWESOME, btw) is a a bullet-to-body impact squib vs GCI shot. It's more blood, but there's a lot going on with a character shooting another character, which could make it a pretty interesting "competition."

@Jcush21

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree on point 1. There's something off about the knife blade. Now if you didn't know it was coming and were watching it for the first time I think it would be fine but when you focus on it... 🙂

@TommiSRP

Жыл бұрын

To your suggestion for the next challenge: 100% on board with you. The shot should definitely also feature a angle of the muzzleflash

@AllanCav

Жыл бұрын

Oh I see ED-209 in the future!

@powderphysics

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if it's the shadow that doesn't look right. They can be hard to do, especially in a short time

@DaveDexterMusic

Жыл бұрын

The blood coming down the knife before Adam has reacted (because he was reacting to the slice, not the poke) was a really weird choice. It's adding a layer to the injury that wasn't there in the Chinatown shot or their practical remake.

This is such a great example of how practical and cgi can work together in conjunction to enhance an effect. There are drawbacks to both, with ofc the positives, and being able to combine them together helps sell it more than ever. A radical time

Practical vs Digital: EXPLOSIONS ! ! !

I think you nailed it when noticing the performance/acting difference - - that's what sells practical for me. The actors react genuinely and everything looks real as a result.

@kylespevak6781

Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking the other day about how acting these days seems so much harder. So much VFX in post, and tons of green screen. They're basically playing pretend on set and selling it

@sharpfang

Жыл бұрын

@@kylespevak6781 and failing way too often. The requirements went up, the artist skills remained the same, the final effect got worse.

@Woad25

Жыл бұрын

The scene in Aliens when the chest burster gets introduced comes to mind. The actors around the table didn't know what was about to happen, that's genuine fear and alarm you're seeing.

@kylespevak6781

Жыл бұрын

@@sharpfang I'd disagree. A LOT of movies use CG that you never notice. Set extensions, landscapes, etc. Interacting with CG characters will always be tough, but you have to consider that the actor is usually in some studio with a half built set, and they're selling it like they're in another world. It's also like how movies aren't shot in scene order, they usually do all the scenes that take place in one location together. So that could mean having to shoot the calm beginning and extreme climax back to back. Having to switch is crazy

@knaughta.masso-kist5944

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is the one thing that no matter how good VFX gets, it will never be able to match practical effects at. Tbf though Adam and Wren are not actors, real actors would have been able to sell the VFX shot much better.

This video had me smiling so much :D

@danielleducourneau8807

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't just me! Smiling like a kid!

@r4dn651

Жыл бұрын

yeah fr

@kstergiou3

Жыл бұрын

Adam just has a smiling kind of energy

@Zlist1994

Жыл бұрын

Lol it’s soo good I almost forgot I was at work on my lunch break until the end of it. Definitely need a whole sub series or at least parts 2-100 in the future soon 👌🏾

@loslingos1232

Жыл бұрын

Future serial killer?

This was such an awesome video! Such a cool concept! Hope to see many more. Adam Savage as always, the greatest of personalities.

I feel like with a small effect like this it makes sense to go with Practical. For the next one you should look at something like explosions or destruction. Compare miniatures to VFX and see which one wins

@thejagman22

Жыл бұрын

No, it makes sense to go with a mixture as they say in the video - there are inevitable little issues you end up having to fix in post (in this case fixing the slight but visible wobble of the knife tip, or adding extra blood spatter, etc).

@trix10101

Жыл бұрын

So adam blows something off and they need to better. Im sure kari and tory would love to help

@yungjoemighty879

Жыл бұрын

Miniatures look 100% better than CGI

Wow, I'm so impressed! One digital effect that breaks immersion for me almost every time is rubble/rocks scattering. They feel too weightless and clean, at least in my opinion. Would be really neat to see the real vs digital take on that :)

@techman3420

Жыл бұрын

Dude, a rock fall/slide would almost be perfect for something like this.

@eemsg

Жыл бұрын

**picks up a styrofoam boulder prop and lobs it at you**

@oriondourden

Жыл бұрын

that's funny because I think it's difficult for practical effects where people are involved with rocks as well. they just bounce off of the actors, breaking immersion for me

@perry92964

Жыл бұрын

that is a good idea but lets be realistic, if it took adam 2 hours to make that knife how long do you think it would take him to make a bunch of fake foam rocks? the actor performance will definitely be better with foam

@Jarandjar

Жыл бұрын

The other thing is they don't break either, they stay the same shape

What I still can't over is how in the first shot, the raw emotion is more present. The blood splatter in general was far better than the 2nd, but what really tops the cake is how Wren is seemingly stunned at first, then goes back to "tough guy mode" and holds Adam harder. I feel this FAR more closely replicates what it would be like in a genuine situation like this. You can put so much money into practical effects before you're limited. You can put so much money into CGI before you're limited. But you aren't limited to the amount of raw emotion and reaction someone can express. That aside, stuff like this gets me so giddy like a little kid lmao

Surely bring Adam back and a a full film using a hybrid of practical and digital effects and see if viewers can notice the difference! Absolutely loved the video!

Hybrid take (practical plus cleanup) was by FAR the superior take. I think there's always going to be a place for both practical AND advanced digital effects. Using them both to good effect yields AMAZING results.

@macacofrito

Жыл бұрын

Nah, they just need to practice more, reposition Adam´s head, shot the knife insertion from another angle, etc. Chinatown made it all practical and it´s flawless

@VoidySan

Жыл бұрын

When done well, the 2 methods are so so so complimentary, especially for exaggerated effects! It's so cool to see the individual comparisons next to the hybrid.

@ducksinarow4958

Жыл бұрын

@@macacofrito flawless except for that frame that let Adam recreate the effect in the first place

@numbdigger9552

Жыл бұрын

@@ducksinarow4958 i mean if there is a mistake in 1 frame, it's not much of a mistake

@FizzyCape

Жыл бұрын

yup. full digital can look corny, end full practical has lots of limitations

This is an awesome collaboration! I love seeing both sides of the effects process!

@TaelweaverVictorious

Жыл бұрын

Wait, what are you doing here? Love the nerf community commenting!

@freckle3773

Жыл бұрын

Yoooo OOD!!!

@judahstringer6396

Жыл бұрын

Yoooooooo

I totally agree, it's not about one technique over the other but recognising the strengths and weaknesses of each medium and using them accordingly/ in conjunction.

YOU GUYS NEED TO DO MORE THINGS LIKE THIS WITH ADAM, im sure he would love to

Would love see more of this!

@theninjamaster67

Жыл бұрын

Hey Elca! Awesome seeing you here duder. :D

I cannot stress enough how much I need this to be an entire series!

@tazzvose6496

Жыл бұрын

I second this, please create a thing I can spend all my producer credits on to get this made

Over the last few days I’ve been on Freddie’s channel node and here and it’s making me sad for a happier time in my life but now Adam savage is here too

This is SUCH a fun challenge!!! Please do more practical vs vfx competitions with Adam

another huge advantage of the practical effect, specifically for this challenge: Adam got 40 minutes of cool footage of him making the prop while Fenner clicked on a computer for three hours.

@ryancarrell3186

Жыл бұрын

thats a very good point! RedLetterMedia actually mentioned something like this in their Roger Rabbit review. Practical effects are always more fun to watch Behind the Scenes of, compared to vfx.

@himan12345678

Жыл бұрын

@@ryancarrell3186 vfx can be interesting as well, but it has to be made and presented as so because it is abstract. Practical can be immediately observed, vfx has to take extra effort to capture and visualize the thought process of the vfx artist.

Please start a practical vs visual effects series with Adam! There are soooo many cool things you could try!

Adam is always so encouraging I love his attitude

This was to fun to watch to not watch again! You guys and Adam, please make more! MOOAAAR! 😂

(8:07) The emotion in this scene is so good The way Wren's face turns from "Do it" to disgusted to kinda angry Adam's look of genuine terror Niko's "Imma kill you" attitude It all blends together into a perfectly played scene

@Kurse_of_Kall

Жыл бұрын

Though I'll point out that this scene almost highlights my least favorite part about the practical shot: there's almost no blood on Adam's actual nose where the "wound" would be, where the digital immediately covers it up in a bloody, gorey mess. Pausing at 8:15, you can see his nose is completely clean (and of course in one piece). It's not super visible when viewed in real time, but that's mostly just due to the shock and drama of the moment, not because it's actually that hard to notice if you're looking closer.

@Shrimp_Insurance

Жыл бұрын

@@Kurse_of_Kall I think the second practical take looked better as far as blood placement

For a practical vs digital idea, try doing a missing limb. Really curious to see the differences in the approach, and the pros and cons with each method

@robertlocock5636

Жыл бұрын

Or a Scanners exploding head :)

@georgefelton3291

Жыл бұрын

I was going to come suggest this! Absolutely missing limb would be a cool challenge.

Duuuudes, please make this into a series. This was so fun!

5:15 "Do you remember what father taught us about holy combat?"

Since miniatures are one of Adam's past jobs, it would be interesting to see a miniature setup or built, lit and shot vs a digital version. Not sure if having a pre-built model would work better (like the Jurasic Park Jeeps you did) or a scratch build.

@iWhacko

Жыл бұрын

yeah and blowing up the miniatures, since real fire is usually beter

"I built the prop I want to be killed with" is one hell of a line

guys i need more adam savage with VFX vs PFX COME ON ITS BEEN A YEAR!!! love u corridor crew been watching your channels for years

The guy holding Adam back as they cut him is so invested in his role, his facial expressions almost convinced me that this scene was legit

You know how in western movies when there’s a big bar fight and the final shot is someone getting thrown through a window. I feel like that shot of someone getting thrown through a window would be awesome to test practical and digital. With practical you can talk about sugar glass, framing, and stunt work. As opposed to with digital there is 3-D renders and lighting and fluid motion of breaking glass. There’s a lot of challenges on both ends that I think will make a really interesting competition.

@milddiffuse

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Although I hope they won't try and match it exactly. Both digital and practical allow for very different types of shots, it would be cool to also have that highlighted. Anyway, this has a lot of potential for many more videos of the like and I'm definitely looking forward to that.

@Idiomatick

Жыл бұрын

Practical is 1000% better though so it isn't as much of a challenge.

@bearwolfrider6292

Жыл бұрын

@@Idiomatick I mean sure you can say that but you can’t say that for sure. That’s why it should be tested.

@milddiffuse

Жыл бұрын

@@Idiomatick idk, is it really?

@Idiomatick

Жыл бұрын

@@milddiffuse Fake broken glass costs nothing to setup, works perfectly, and has been readily available for decades. Studios that do lots of stunts will have a big supply of them on hand because they are used so often. There is no reason to go digital for a glass break in 90% of shots. The only time digital glass is used is if there can't be glass there for some other logistical reason, or if they want the glass to break in a specific way (like in a slomo)

My favorite thing about this "timed trial" match up is that Adam is so used to working with aluminum and resin and whatnot that he forgot one of the chief properties of steel going into this build, which cost him a ton of time. And he STILL came out ahead on the timer. With a softer metal or a resin cast of a prop, any time you cut a section off of your workpiece you will loose the small kerf of material where your cutting tool passed through the work piece, so if you want a tight fit and a seamless join in a two-piece prop you have to "donate" the tip from a second piece and sand/grind the adjoining surfaces to fit together properly. But hardened steel, like that in these knife blades, is very very difficult to cut through, as it's HARD and a little brittle. If you want a seamless joint on a thin steel prop, it's better to SNAP the blade where it needs to separate. A clean break will need minimal-to-no grinding to fit back on seamlessly, with no material lost to a kerf. If you watch his video, you see that Adam spent one *entire hour* of his build time struggling with cutting the two steel blades and grinding the mating surfaces of the base blade and donated tip to fit to each other, whereas the propmaker in the 1970s probably just clamped the tip of one blunted knife in a vice, whacked it sideways with a mallet to break it off, then continued building. He could have easily completed the build in less time if he'd started with the simpler method. The corridor boys benefited from that lapse in judgement TWICE, in that it gave them more time at home for computer wizardry and in that Adam was kind enough to give them the other tipless knife for shooting their VFX plate. On a more even playing field the boys would have had to remove the tip of a knife for their own shoot themselves and add that workshop time in, or find a suitable stand-in that they'd have to roto out and replace with a CGI knife later.

@imjstcl

Жыл бұрын

Thats interesting. A snapped blade would probably have less of the jiggling problem that the practical shot had as it wouldn't be smooth or an arced cut and so would hold together with friction better. I wonder if the broken and then mated faces would do the springing action stuff well enough though.

Yo, guys! It's about time you did another one of these!! It's too good of an idea to only do one.

Adam seems like such a genuine person with genuine reactions to stuff, and his view of practical vs digital is perfect: combine the best of both worlds! He didn't see his world being challenged by SFX, he saw an opportunity for collaboration to make a product better than what either could do alone. God I miss Mythbusters...

This collab was awesome.

@_cate.

Жыл бұрын

okay

@hman6159

Жыл бұрын

Hi

@hman6159

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@_cate.

Жыл бұрын

@@hman6159 I agree

I’m genuinely so excited both corridor crew and Adam are starting to do more stuff together because it’s two worlds/two channels I’ve been a fan of for years coming together to just inspire, teach, and entertains an insane number of people. ITS AWESOME!

@EvanCops

Жыл бұрын

me too! dude its got me obsessed (in a good way) about learning to add some CG to what i do

I love how in the VFX Take Wren looks at Adam when he's 'reacting' to the knife and then mimics his actions.

The best magic trick is the one that surprises you everytime you see it, even when you exactly know how it's done. This is such a trick!

It’s so cool you guys are helping out a guy like Adam I feel like one day he’ll blow up and get a tv show or something

@friedengilbert8067

Жыл бұрын

Blow up and get a TV show where he can blow stuff up maybe

@phlongus

Жыл бұрын

A great idea for a show would be where they test out old myths and see if they are true or not.

@richardtucker5938

Жыл бұрын

@@phlongus Yeah 'Fairy tale bangers' or something...

@sadflix8754

Жыл бұрын

@@richardtucker5938 or rumorbreaker

@richardtucker5938

Жыл бұрын

@@sadflix8754 Legendsmasher (these both sound like swords lol)

A whole series with Adam Savage where you guys just nerd into the history and practices etc from both worlds of special effects would be fucking amazing.

This was the first video I watched on your channel- been a loyal subscriber ever since 😂

Hahahahahaha!!! That practical cut looks so good!! Just gives you such a genuine reaction.