Slavoj Zizek - Why Only an Atheist Can Be a True Christian (6/8)
October 12, 2010 Wilson College, Princeton University
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@aspektx10 жыл бұрын
the Kant on education reference was pretty interesting.
@allanpopa11 жыл бұрын
"I see in your eyes my monstrosity" That may offer some profound insight into the Holocaust. It was essentially Western ideology and Christianity that died at Auschwitz, Treblinka and Sobibor.
@Swede17213 жыл бұрын
Nice to have Peter Singer ask Zizek a question on animal rights.
@Naturalist197912 жыл бұрын
What an interesting rhetorical style: just vaguely suggest something and continue with "and so on and so on".
@s067345113 жыл бұрын
aoow, just when you thought it couldn't get more intellectual, Peter Singer shows up!
@thomassimmons19506 жыл бұрын
Zizek as both Christ and anti-Christ...Fred Nietzsche is laughing in his super-mad Heaven-Hell...!
@1337Tempest12 жыл бұрын
13:09 I literally LOL'd
@Crackxyx12 жыл бұрын
@Naturalist1979 that's not his 'style', that's what he does in this video since he's constrained by time. Zizek is pretty actually very thorough and methodical. when he does what you're describing he's indicating that he is building off already-established concepts. he specifically stated that the concepts he didn't have time to thoroughly explain here could be found in his books.
@jorgisdenaam11 жыл бұрын
His answer is totally to the point. Here it is: "my position now is: moralized legalistic "animal rights" are very limited. Animal suffering of course, but why always this legalistic approach?" And then you can take the detour through the related issues (Obama on BP, capitalist regulation, tolerance, PC) as illuminating this position.
@thededman50544 жыл бұрын
More tech, more alienation, synthetic inside out, least alienation
@AnotherOrangeJulius12 жыл бұрын
At first I thought "man what's wrong here?" ... but then he finally came up with the "decaffeinated other" story.
@goosepeuk12 жыл бұрын
@ForgetMeAmbrose :) tanku
@ZekonjaPekonja11 жыл бұрын
and i really like zizek. i can understand him on three languages, i watched many interviews with him, but sometimes he looks on things in simplified ways and because of that he makes irrelevant points.
@Proletariat1212 жыл бұрын
@TheNina2510 Maybe that's because it's only 6/8? Watch all of it.
@TheNina251012 жыл бұрын
He is talking about everything but not about his title.....
@Naturalist197912 жыл бұрын
@Crackxyx Okay, fair enough.
@ZekonjaPekonja11 жыл бұрын
zizek didn't answer on singer's question...totally frivolous answer.
@ZekonjaPekonja11 жыл бұрын
I don't agree. Singer asked Zizek about utilitarianism approach and why he (Zizek) thinks it is radical or impossible (regard on their previous debate), and Zizek answered "well why we talk about utalitiarinism/legalistic approach whatever..." and then he talks about something completly different. For me that is not satisfactory answer.
@tame199911 жыл бұрын
4:01-4:30
@nodamiaen11 жыл бұрын
lmfao peter singer
@goosepeuk12 жыл бұрын
the strange think is when he speaks slovak he doesnt have a lisp............weird
@Wittgensteinien12 жыл бұрын
I that Peter-Fucking-Singer?
@zweiosterei12 жыл бұрын
Ramblings of a madman. XD
@AbeldeBetancourt12 жыл бұрын
I think you were completely lost on this particular subject. Along the lines the idea is education as a limitation, not as an enhancement of a romanticized failed nature.
@Krshwunk12 жыл бұрын
No one cares about the comments on a KZread video? Well, it pretty obvious YOU care! You've become very emotional about what I've said. And you took the time to notice that I commented on every part of the video. So, I've obviously I struck a nerve. And that was my goal. I was NOT attempting to engage in a complex rational argument ... after all, it's just a KZread comment that no one cares about ... as you say.
11 жыл бұрын
OK, Lay off the drugs then :)
@andrejleban4 жыл бұрын
Religion is meant for developing animal consciousness into human consciousness and human consciousness into godly consciousness. The atheistic person is like an animal they can eat, have sex, sleep, and defend; this are common traits in both humans and animals but only human beings can be religious. Atheist remains at a certain level of consciousness, which may be higher than animal consciousness, but cannot rise to the level of divine consciousness and, in principle, his consciousness remains very close to the level of consciousness of animals. Evolution of consciousness is much faster by proper religious life than with work and science. The human beings has "free will" to chose religious life or remain atheist but the goal of life is very different. A religious person can eventually qualitatively become perfect, qualitatively equal to God and thereby achieving eternal consciousness and becoming immortal, which is also the essence of religious life. Christ died on the cross like an animal but rose on the third day. If you crucify an atheist he will not rise from the dead, so he has nothing to do with Christianity.
@ethanstump
Жыл бұрын
It boggles me how there still are modern Christians. I say this as an atheist who's only been an atheist for five years. The cognitive dissonance almost lead me to kill myself with fentanyl. The level of dissonance one has to have that a magical person who lived in a time no longer relevant to any person outside of an archeologist somehow still should guide how we drive, how we microwave, how we fly an airplane, is on a level that not only should be institutionalized, but given the best drugs, such as psyilocibin. I do hope you have a nice wonderful day, your going to need it, when you discover the light outside of the cave.
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the Kant on education reference was pretty interesting.
"I see in your eyes my monstrosity" That may offer some profound insight into the Holocaust. It was essentially Western ideology and Christianity that died at Auschwitz, Treblinka and Sobibor.
Nice to have Peter Singer ask Zizek a question on animal rights.
What an interesting rhetorical style: just vaguely suggest something and continue with "and so on and so on".
aoow, just when you thought it couldn't get more intellectual, Peter Singer shows up!
Zizek as both Christ and anti-Christ...Fred Nietzsche is laughing in his super-mad Heaven-Hell...!
13:09 I literally LOL'd
@Naturalist1979 that's not his 'style', that's what he does in this video since he's constrained by time. Zizek is pretty actually very thorough and methodical. when he does what you're describing he's indicating that he is building off already-established concepts. he specifically stated that the concepts he didn't have time to thoroughly explain here could be found in his books.
His answer is totally to the point. Here it is: "my position now is: moralized legalistic "animal rights" are very limited. Animal suffering of course, but why always this legalistic approach?" And then you can take the detour through the related issues (Obama on BP, capitalist regulation, tolerance, PC) as illuminating this position.
More tech, more alienation, synthetic inside out, least alienation
At first I thought "man what's wrong here?" ... but then he finally came up with the "decaffeinated other" story.
@ForgetMeAmbrose :) tanku
and i really like zizek. i can understand him on three languages, i watched many interviews with him, but sometimes he looks on things in simplified ways and because of that he makes irrelevant points.
@TheNina2510 Maybe that's because it's only 6/8? Watch all of it.
He is talking about everything but not about his title.....
@Crackxyx Okay, fair enough.
zizek didn't answer on singer's question...totally frivolous answer.
I don't agree. Singer asked Zizek about utilitarianism approach and why he (Zizek) thinks it is radical or impossible (regard on their previous debate), and Zizek answered "well why we talk about utalitiarinism/legalistic approach whatever..." and then he talks about something completly different. For me that is not satisfactory answer.
4:01-4:30
lmfao peter singer
the strange think is when he speaks slovak he doesnt have a lisp............weird
I that Peter-Fucking-Singer?
Ramblings of a madman. XD
I think you were completely lost on this particular subject. Along the lines the idea is education as a limitation, not as an enhancement of a romanticized failed nature.
No one cares about the comments on a KZread video? Well, it pretty obvious YOU care! You've become very emotional about what I've said. And you took the time to notice that I commented on every part of the video. So, I've obviously I struck a nerve. And that was my goal. I was NOT attempting to engage in a complex rational argument ... after all, it's just a KZread comment that no one cares about ... as you say.
OK, Lay off the drugs then :)
Religion is meant for developing animal consciousness into human consciousness and human consciousness into godly consciousness. The atheistic person is like an animal they can eat, have sex, sleep, and defend; this are common traits in both humans and animals but only human beings can be religious. Atheist remains at a certain level of consciousness, which may be higher than animal consciousness, but cannot rise to the level of divine consciousness and, in principle, his consciousness remains very close to the level of consciousness of animals. Evolution of consciousness is much faster by proper religious life than with work and science. The human beings has "free will" to chose religious life or remain atheist but the goal of life is very different. A religious person can eventually qualitatively become perfect, qualitatively equal to God and thereby achieving eternal consciousness and becoming immortal, which is also the essence of religious life. Christ died on the cross like an animal but rose on the third day. If you crucify an atheist he will not rise from the dead, so he has nothing to do with Christianity.
@ethanstump
Жыл бұрын
It boggles me how there still are modern Christians. I say this as an atheist who's only been an atheist for five years. The cognitive dissonance almost lead me to kill myself with fentanyl. The level of dissonance one has to have that a magical person who lived in a time no longer relevant to any person outside of an archeologist somehow still should guide how we drive, how we microwave, how we fly an airplane, is on a level that not only should be institutionalized, but given the best drugs, such as psyilocibin. I do hope you have a nice wonderful day, your going to need it, when you discover the light outside of the cave.