The responsibility is and should be on Israel who should stop the victim theatrics, and act responsibly towards 7.5 million Palestinians who are living under brutal occupation, there's no way on earth Israel can treat millions of human beings as being some savages who only understand the language of violence because it didn't work for 70 years, and the demographics are not on the side of jews as the Arab birth rate is much higher, you hear about families with 15 or 20 children obliterated in the attacks, it's just crazy how much hate is being created...

As an Israeli I absolutely agree with Vivek. Hamas is the worst of the worst, and Israel government has to change as well

Wheres the video you uploaded yesterday about the lockdown graphs being wrong??

He's right on the Westbank though. Stick for gaza, carrot for Westbank with the help of some more closely related Islamic countries. And maybe get some diplomacy with Lebanon.

Please watch John Anderson's interview with Niall Ferguson. Compelling logic.

Very interesting and a brave move for a right wing paper to publish this interview! It won't please the hard right crowd, but they'll be better off reading the Daily Telegraph which is moving more and more to the right these days!

@fayabogush2956

6 ай бұрын

As if palestinians don't know about 'another way'. I see them embracing 'another way' in Western countries. Are they even civilized humans? They elected Hamas. And unless sealed borders with Egypt/destroyed Lebanon are discussed it's all 'useful idiocy' as Lenin put it very correctly over a century ago..

The host sickens me she is more or less that IDF has no choice but to kill civilians in order to eliminate Hamas. Evil

is proven that no evidence of a human shield from Hamas is sad to hear Zizek the opposite, instead it is proven that Israel does it

Hamas is the official, elected government of Gaza. They choose war. And it incumbent on Israel to make Hamas not choose war?

@benzur3503

6 ай бұрын

A: as a neighboring territory, yes. it is the governments responsibility to maintain peace and security across its borders. Especially when their casual solution repeatedly gets no long term results. B: Hamas were elected 17 years ago, had an internal party election that changed representatives and never ran another election in Gaza since. Their democratic legitimacy as expression of the will of their people is questionable at best. C: as Zizek constantly stresses- Israel is actively blocking any potential for any future for Gazans. When the only options are dying or dying with revenge we can’t be stunned when some choose the latter. Which is why Zizek is correct- an expansion of choices to anything less miserable than those two would reduce the human resources terrorist groups such as Hamas has. In limiting the lives of Gazans and Palestinians to misery Israel is merely delaying a repeat of the same atrocities. Over and over and over.

@Crouchy232323

6 ай бұрын

​@@benzur3503the opening poster, like so many, is welded to what they have been told. They cannot deviate.

@benzur3503

6 ай бұрын

@@Crouchy232323 maybe. Maybe not. Worth a try

@Crouchy232323

6 ай бұрын

@@benzur3503 it is too jarring for them to even consider, let alone accept the reality of the situation. Post ww2 it was not the Germans involved who faced up to what had been done in their name, it was the next generation who had the courage to ask questions and bring light and reconciliation. It is a human trait. They are not ignorant, they are not defending their inhumanity from accusations from anyone but themselves. It is too much to contend with.

@benzur3503

6 ай бұрын

@@Crouchy232323 Israel had many generations going on with too little remorse. In the book Messe Zizek pointed out at speeches by Moshe Dayan recognizing the cause for the Palestinian resistance despite opposing it, a speech unimaginable from any political entity in Israel nowadays. We cannot rely on the next generation waking up on its own. The issue must be pressed wherever it can lest the conflict grow much further. There is no guarantee here. We’re in William James’s forest. Getting up and trying to leave it guarantees nothing, but it has higher potential than sitting in place.

Lucky for the Israelis that they don't listen to what Žižek tells them to do. He is not the sharpest pencil.

@manuag3886

6 ай бұрын

His main point is that the illegal settlements in the west bank will further radicalise Palestinians and make a two state solution, something nearly the entire international community wants, impossible. You disagree with that?

@Antiquitycar

6 ай бұрын

@@manuag3886 Very few Israelis agree to two state solution in this time and they don't think that the Arabs will get any less radicalize then what they already are. The two state solution already killed by Hamas and stupidity is free.

@fayabogush2956

6 ай бұрын

Not sure he is not demented.

@Antiquitycar

6 ай бұрын

@@fayabogush2956 Stupidity is free.

@manuag3886

6 ай бұрын

@@Antiquitycar Perhaps stealing people's land is what functions as a form of radicalisation?

i just really want a palestinian apologist to just admit hamas is the goverment, and as its the goverment official and all;why cant we just ackowledge that war is about killing the enemy. Until they make peace as patton said and other generals in past have said which is about war and how its essentially calculated murder on a goverment scale, please see ww2 and bombardmen of japan or german for example.

@nuqwestr

6 ай бұрын

Agreed, the USA dropped two A-Bombs on Japan and are now close economic and political allies. USA carpet bombed Vietnam, lost, now have normal diplomatic relations. Egypt and Jordan normalized, but this is not about a post-Westphalian Peace between nation/states. The Ottomans never signed on, and neither did Islamists. They only acknowledge a Carthaginian Peace style agreement.

What is both interesting and predictable is that nobody is speaking about the retribution to come. Here is why people SHOULD be talking about it. Because it may lend one a possible insight into Bibi's intentions. Knowing the plans for assaults after Israel cools off the initiative are imminent, Israel wishes to dilute the potential if not relocate it to a border in the South. It just makes sense. But when most of us as human beings are focussed solely on preventing death tolls, we rarely will pause for stepping back to see a bigger picture WHERE ASKING THE RIGHT RIGHT OR PROPER QUESTIONS actually gets you somewhere in your understanding. Also on another note, what would the world think a response to another two state proposal would be, based upon the past history of rejections which blind rants in the stupid street seem to either be ignoring or simply have no clue about? THE OVER SIMPLIFICATION OF A PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE HOMEWORK IS BEING REDUCED TO BLIND RAGE. DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH WAITING FOR THAT TO CHANGE. ALSO EXPECT THE WINNER (IF THERE REALLY IS ONE) TO BE DEMONIZED IN THE FUTURE. A LOSE LOSE SITUATION. TOXIC.

The one thing raising my deep suspicion : WHERE are those Palestinians proclaiming to neither agree with Hamas regency over the last 16 yrs in Gaza, nor with their terror over their own people and Israel ? I haven't heard single voice from that direction.

Settller == colonist Someone as smart as Zizek should choose his words more carefully because he gives away his true position.

I don’t agree with SŽ. I am a total outsider to the conflict but SŽ’s ‘high minded’ views have to be secondary to the present compelling need. SŽ cannot have a surgically precise expulsion of Hamas when it is embedded in an urban environment and ensnaring civilians. Why is Israel left to sort this out on its own? Why are Jordan, Egypt, Turkey and other Arab states not stepping up and saying they will eject Hamas? It looks to me as though there is another agenda and a bigger picture here across some Arab states. The suspicion must be of a widespread religious doctrine across the Middle East that is complicit with Hamas by way of inaction. This suspicion of a commonly held religious viewpoint could be disproved if Arab soldiers from neutral countries entered Gaza to save lives and end Gaza’s nihilistic governance. So, why has a neutral force not been spoken about let alone suggested? If there were neutral forces on the ground, doing what Israel is having to do, then SŽ’s voice could be heard and listened to.

@adtastic1533

6 ай бұрын

TBF, I think most Arab leaders would make peace with Israel but the level of hatred towards Jews and Israel from the Muslim public is thru the roof. Even dictators have to pay attention to popular sentiment. They got their own Jihadis to worry about. After all they don't want to leave office in a body bag.

@benzur3503

6 ай бұрын

You’re asking why Arab nations don’t embrace the oppressors of Palestinians who can’t help themselves from going on interviews saying they’re going to make another nakba? Why should they? What debt or good will can they have towards Israel? Being an Arab country erases a countries neutrality. Also you’re assuming Israel would allow such soldiers entry to Gaza, which would never happen

@geoffreynhill2833

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure Mr Z would agree with you!!! I certainly do. 🤔(Green Fire, UK) 🌈🦉

Bro look at our marxists... We will never make it out of colonialism and capitalism

Slavoj, ol'bean, have you been drinking or just feeling your age? Or perhaps you're treading a fine line with those who cannot be mentioned

@norrismcsquirter9874

6 ай бұрын

He is off his dial.

@errolkim1334

6 ай бұрын

Jews

@jodawgsup

6 ай бұрын

@@norrismcsquirter9874 You are just rather slow in your head. There's no shame in that.

@__loafy__

6 ай бұрын

marxists are more insane the older they get

Just an endless and pointless evasion of the unacceptable truth of a square peg in a round hole.

There isn't another way. That's the problem.

@benzur3503

6 ай бұрын

There is. Zizek started with the extremely humble start of “hey… kill less innocent bystanders? Killing them doesn’t solve anything and motivates more people to recognize they have no future and can be killed at any moment? So let’s remove this soil for vengeance?” And people still insist “but you gotta kill innocents!”. When Norman Finklestein arranges a charity to help a hospital so much they make a plaque in memory of his holocaust surviving parents, and that plaque is bombed by Israel you recognize that the policy genuinely is spray and pray. And such a policy has human costs that the cycle can’t afford keeping to shrug off. We are going to reach ww3 by the end of the year at this pace if nothing changes

@nimraamin6358

6 ай бұрын

Actually there is. How about getting the fuck out of Palestinian land? That’ll solve pretty much everything

@Alloballo123

6 ай бұрын

One state solution where everyone has same rights. But Israel doesn't want that cause Arabs outnumber Israeli Jews. Hence why they have to ethnic cleanse first.

The problem facing those who are sympathetic to Palestinians is that, every single actual solution they could possibly think of has already been tried & has either failed or been rejected, by both Hamas & Fatah. The main obstacle to a peace process is that neither Hamas nor Fateh have the slightest interest in peace. They just see every attempt at establishing peace as a stepping stone that gets them closer to exterminating the Jews. Most Arabs are well aware of this. Zizek is arguing emotively within a closed loop of futility that leads nowhere, it just eats its own regurgitations over and over. 'How much collateral damage is acceptable?' Israel is already minimizing it as much as is possible while still defending themselves. And they do it more than any other army in history ever has. Prior warnings, help with evacuations, protecting evacuees from Hamas. How much more CAN they do? You cannot expect people to put their own children at increased risk to defend the children of people who are willing to sacrifice their own for Islam. There is such a thing as asking too much. Also, evacuating Gaza and separating civilians from Hamas is difficult, but it is not beyond the combined means of several Arab states & of the UN. They could evacuate everyone, even hospital patients, if they wanted to. Israel would more than likely cooperate with such attempts, if serious. It is not considered seriously because the civilians are needed to deter Israel and facilitate this imbecilic intifada & Hamas would never allow it. Israel has made, by far, the most serious attempts to separate peaceful Palestinians from those supporting terror. Those attempts are repeatedly ruined by both Hamas & Fatah. If all of Hamas' demands are accepted without question, and Israel is constantly asked to do even more, then no solution can ever be reached, because what Hamas really wants is to destroy Israel. You're asking Israelis to negotiate towards their own eventual destruction, for the sake of people who sing songs about exterminating them. You can't negotiate with someone who only pretends to want to negotiate, but really is just going to use the negotiation to inch closer, holding a knife behind his back. The savages are not even willing to admit that their world-view is uncivilized, let alone surrender it. It is their most prized possession & they'd rather die than give it up. You want to put a cannibal in a suit & pretend he's now civilized, for your own convenience, while the cannibal just sees the suit as another implement that will allow him to get close enough to brain his victim. It's ludicrous.

@danakruger

6 ай бұрын

Bravo sir/madam! You've explained the frustrating, one sided demand of peace from Israel so eloquently 👏👏

Too much “but”! This “but” anihilates the first sentece, allways!

@farrider3339

4 ай бұрын

It could be even worse by a _yes but_ 🙄

@noras.9774

4 ай бұрын

@@farrider3339 😂

Spectator has gone off the edge in it Zionism

I dont envy Cindy interviewing that bloke

You can't be serious zz actually thinks putting on glasses makes his brain think different. He needs to put more research into glasses. What about the brand, the price, and actual functions like attachable sunscreen lenses and blue light filter lenses that help with the eyes. Also, hipster aren't just defined by their glasses, is he eating vegan or riding bicycles? What is the point lmao.

@MinecraftAddict991

5 ай бұрын

I think it's a reference to his very well known analysis of They Live (1988) in his Pervert's Guide to Ideology. Taking the side remakrs he says at face value without trying to see the dry satire and cultural analysis behind it is missing the point entirely in general though

@isaac1403

5 ай бұрын

@@MinecraftAddict991 What?

@MinecraftAddict991

5 ай бұрын

@@isaac1403 Watch his piece titled "Pervert's Guide to Ideology", it's somewhere on youtube. It's a collection of movie analyses focused on the ideology of mundane symbols and objects, one of which is a pair of glasses. It'll make more sense afterwards

@isaac1403

5 ай бұрын

@@MinecraftAddict991 Link tks.

@dandogzbutt1518

5 ай бұрын

@@isaac1403 Zizeks says his position towards ideology is that ideologies are like differing lenses which we make sense of reality through. He also analyzes a film called "they live" where the main character has a magical pair of glasses which cut through propaganda to show what the intended unconscious message of that peice of propaganda is. Zizek argues ideology works the opposite way (instead of making things for you to see, affecting how you interpret what you see) and that a better metaphor would be a pair of glasses which affects/distorts the interpretation of reality rather than glasses which finally allow us to see reality.

Porridge brain.

lol what killings by settlers on west bank muslims? wtf is he babbling about?

Haven't watched this yet, but I'm guessing I'm about to see yet another "intellectual" I used to regard highly, in my early 20s, about to show how delusional he actually is. Oh joy!

@fayabogush2956

6 ай бұрын

I am watching and agree with you. Another 'useful idiot'. As if palestinians don't know about 'another way' (luckily I knew about these 'intellectuals' from early age reading about their admiration of Stalin).

@janstone2365

6 ай бұрын

Your comment just shows that you seek confirmation of your beliefs ratherthan understanding. How abour making it a habit to listen to views that are 180 degrees different from your own? Or are you afraid?

@raijinenel3116

6 ай бұрын

@@janstone2365 No, I'm not an impressionable early 20s something anymore, that's all. I used to listen to him and agree, now I can see he is naive in many aspects. How abour making it a habit to listen to views that are 180 degrees different from your own? Or are you afraid?

@JCT1926

6 ай бұрын

Why is he so naive?

@Magani79

6 ай бұрын

@@raijinenel3116 what is naive about his opinion? after you watched tell us what you think

Whoever israeli politician on power would do the same in Gaza as the current right goverment. Blaming Bibi is a pretext to blame Israel as a whole

Alas! Zizek is failing to notice the big other player, the Iranian theocracy! 8:40

Why is this guy even considered as having anything useful to add to this discussion? There are teenage armchair generals in video games with more realistic and sensical analysis than these armchair ideology philosophers just stirring their own pots. What a waste of time.