The reason BLP is region locked to USA only is that the GC3 is available in UK/EU. Skytrack+ is clearly a consumer unit and BLP a bit more professional. However, once you take into account subscription costs Skytrack + is a lot cheaper. I am highly impressed with what you get with Skytrack+, it is not for the professional golfer but it is pretty close to ideal for the serious amateur. What it delivers for $3k now is what we would have had to pay $10k for 3-4 years ago. I have no doubt that over time it will get better and cheaper

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

Spot on. Excited for the tech in the next 5 years!

Great summary and details, thx.

@friendlygolferdotcom

4 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful

I would also add that for SkyTrak I paid for the lifetime membership to TGC 2019, which was around $800 and so all I pay is the annual $129, which was $99, and that's it. So, I have played all kinds of courses, Pebble Beach, etc., for what is essentially $10 a month. For anyone just wanting to play at home during the winter and, very conveniently hit balls during the week, this is it!! I have the whole set-up; overhead projector, hitting bay/screen, birdie ball putting mat, etc., and am very happy with the product and the price. Now, I just wish they would let me trade in my current SkyTrak for the new one!!

@friendlygolferdotcom

9 ай бұрын

Having a full home simulator setup is as good as it gets! SKYTRAK has a trade-in program but I think you can get more selling it yourself: skytrakgolf.com/pages/trade-in#/product-search

Super awesome video and very grateful you made the comparison as I'm struggling with all the great options on the market. I really like the BLP/GC3 but my main con compared to the Skytrak+ is the subscription and courses they sell are quite expensive as opposed to having that on a cheaper subscription plan with the Skytrak+ using E6 and Topgolf. Sounds like E6 software is less buggy as well.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

The BLP with basic subscription and GSPro may be the way to go then. The only downside is there's no guarantee Foresight won't force you to pay more for GSPro later on if it ever becomes officially supported. GSPro is far superior to E6 on iOS. It all depends what each person wants to get out of their launch monitor / simulator. If you want to run everything off an iPad then Skytrak+ is a great option. If you plan to use a gaming PC and want the best possible simulation experience, GSPro and BLP are both a big step up. Hope it helped and didn't leave you more confused! Let me know if I can answer any specific questions.

I have a skytrak and will upgrade eventually. But being able to run everything off an iPad and airplay it to my TV is such a selling pt

@friendlygolferdotcom

6 ай бұрын

Definitely keeps it simple if you’re not interested in a gaming pc for other software.

Had a SkyTrak and was contemplating moving to the SkyTrak+. I thoroughly enjoyed using SkyTrak but just wanted some club data. Along came some folks recommending Bushnell Launch Pro. I really didn't want to put stickers on the clubs to gain access to the club data. However time after time information on the accuracy of BLP versus the issue I was having with a 60 degree wedge while using SkyTrak, pushed me to BLP. I do have to say I really liked the software that was with SkyTrak as compared to Bushnell Launch Pro and FSX. Thankfully GSPRO takes up some of the slack and improvements are ongoing.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

The SkyTrak software does seem to be the best part. It seems to be very stable, lots of features and can be run entirely from an iPad if you choose. Did the club stickers end up bothering you? They never bothered me but putting 4 per club on for the GCQuad is a little annoying and they seem to come off way more often than the single sticker for BLP.

@coldzero1214

11 ай бұрын

Agree. FSX is meh. GSPro plus BLP is awesome, hopefully it continues to work with the basic subscription.

Skytrak Plus works great with GSPro and you don't even need anything but basic which is free or game improvement which is $129 a year vs $600 a year for gold on BLP to get GSPro to work. That's a no brainer for me. Tried E6connect it looks game like compared to GSPro and 15 courses on E6connect vs over 500 on GSPro.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

GSPro works with a basic subscription BLP ($250/yr). Gold is not required currently but of course you never know if that will change in the future.

@laronda10

9 ай бұрын

E6 sucks, tried it for a year. Switched to gs pro a month ago, miles more realistic. Ball physics are so much better, its almost like E6 deaigners have never seen a ball land

I got the skytrak + purely to avoid the subscription models. I know that it will be feature hampered to some degree. However, with GS pro it should be very fun to use. Both are great units but im not a professional. Buy what makes sense for your use case.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

With GSPro you should be able to get a lot out of it between that and the ST range.

I’ve owned both. BLP is what a LM experience should be. Zero mis reads, instant feedback, ease to align, accurate as Trackman. The fact that ST+ is the same price is lunacy.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

I was surprised it came out at $3k. Not sure if it’s priced too high or if the BLP is just an amazing deal…

@alcc4964

11 ай бұрын

$700 yearly sucks plus $250 GSPro

@infidel2231

11 ай бұрын

I’ve owned both as well and there is no comparison. The BLP is far superior is accuracy, ease of use, software, so on. ST+ alignment is finicky and having to position the ball label for every stroke is tedious. With the BLP, the alignment stick is quick and automatic. Putting a sticker on each club takes 2 minutes and you’re good for a long while. The software with the BLP is far superior as well, both in quality of graphics and stability. My SK+ would drop frequently and the only way to fix was a hard restart. The BLP literally works 100% of the time. After the ST+ missed 40% of shots with clubs 52 degrees and higher, I had had enough. I’m so glad I switched.

@coldzero1214

11 ай бұрын

@@infidel2231 100% agree. ST and ST+ were both a chore to use. I had a lot of misplaced faith in Golftec to fix the issues but it just came with the same old and new problems. BLP experience is phenomenal. I hope they don’t mess with the ability to utilize the API on the basic subscription.

@nbargolf

11 ай бұрын

@@infidel2231 my experience with Skytrak+ miss maybe 3 shots over 18 holes even with chip shots. To each his own I'm no pro level golfer so I'm happy with it.

This is very thorough and helpful. Sad an individual has to have the gold membership to a 3D range. You’d think $3500 for the would get more than just a 2D range.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! I agree, basic subscription should give you full access to FSX Pro…

What are the club markers they mention on the Bushnell website that are reqred to collect club head data? "Collection of club data requires use of included club markers"

@friendlygolferdotcom

8 ай бұрын

They are small reflective stickers. One goes at the top center of your club face. If you put one on you’ll get club data, if you leave it off it will only show ball data.

Any thoughts on the Uneekor Eye Mini? Any cons that you know of? I’m put off by the cost of club data on the BLP and it seems be a contender. It’s $3500 this month. Thanks!

@friendlygolferdotcom

10 ай бұрын

I haven’t used one yet so I can’t say. Normally I would say it’s $1000 more and still needs a subscription for 3rd party software but with the sale this month it’s pretty even. I might have to take advantage of the sale and try it out…

I own a BLP with the basic subscription and hate the fact that Bushnell has locked some of the basic features in FSX Pro. I’ve never used GSPro, does it have a practice range where one can compare club data, see shot dispersion, etc? Thanks.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

I agree, FSX Pro should be fully unlocked for Basic. GSPro has a nice driving range but it's very basic in terms of features. They roll out updates pretty regularly and something gets added here and there. They just added a shot randomizer that picks random distances for you. Ball and club data is shown with every shot but you can't really see session history or dispersion data. For that stuff people are using golfshotanalytics.com which is free and connects to GSPro. I haven't used it but probably will go through it soon. I'm sure GSPro's driving range features will get there eventually but for now it's pretty basic.

I want the most accurate club data I can afford in my SIM. I use a launch monitor for game improvement first, and simulation play second. I know you now have a Quad - which is out of my budget. So which current LM would you recommend for the most accurate club data, that isn't $10k?

@friendlygolferdotcom

Ай бұрын

From my experience the gc3 or blp. I noticed no change in data accuracy when I went to the quad. Everything else tries to measure the same things with 2 cameras instead of 3. GC3 is on sale this week! friendlygolfer.com/recommends/sig-gc3/

If I purchase the BLP for $1,999 and want to play GSPRO I know I need the $499 annual subscription. I believe in the past a 1st year subscription was included with th initial purchase, is that still the case?

@friendlygolferdotcom

9 ай бұрын

I don’t believe so. It used to be the basic subscription included for the 1st year. Basic is gone and it’s gold only now. I don’t think I’ve seen anywhere that it’s included. Just an initial free trial of gold for either 14 or 30 days. Can’t remember which.

Have you used the eye mini yet?

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

I have not. I would really like to try it out.

Can you hook up an iPad to the Bushnell?

@friendlygolferdotcom

6 ай бұрын

Yes. FSX Pro has an ipad app you can use with the BLP

Bushnell's website says it's not mac/ios compatible. Would seem if you're a mac user Skytrak is the only choice?

@friendlygolferdotcom

8 ай бұрын

FSX Pro is available for iOS with Bushnell. Skytrak is technically iOS too and not mac. To use FSX 2020 or FSX Play with the Bushnell you would need a gaming PC. As

its on sale for like 2000 most of the time

orignal Skytrak works with GSPro but I have occasional misses due to network not reaching my garage well. GSPro is amazing. Thinking of upgrading to BLP with basic subscription and GSPro to get better reads on putting etc.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

You’ll love it

@alcc4964

11 ай бұрын

Until Bushnell sues GSpro and locks you out forcing you to pay $700…that’s in the works by the way. This is why skytrak+ is not allowing use with GSPro.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

@@alcc4964 Forcing Gold subscription instead of Basic could certainly happen at some point. Foresight announced a partnership with GSPro in January and the same day Trackman dropped a lawsuit against GSPro. Foresight reps have said they put their partnership on hold until the Trackman lawsuit goes away. Skytrak is probably in the same camp.

@ThomasHoffDE

11 ай бұрын

@@alcc4964 Skytrak+ now works with GSPro

@nbargolf

11 ай бұрын

Skytrak + works great with GSPro it's not locked out.

We are now in July 2023 when (if ever) is the official BLP/GC3 support for GS Pro. Seems like it would have been done by now unless some "snafu" broke down the agreement.

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

Allegedly it’s on hold until the GSPro/trackman lawsuit is resolved.

@clw22580

11 ай бұрын

@@friendlygolferdotcom well that should be 2025-2026 at the earliest

Quick question. If you could buy the Stytrak+ for $3200 or the GC3 (including club path data of course) with FSX Pro for $5300, which one would you buy? This is the relative price difference between units that I could get but wonder if the GC3 is worth the extra 2K.

@friendlygolferdotcom

9 ай бұрын

That's kind of tough and probably depends most on how you want to use it. Also, I assume you are looking at only getting FSX Pro and not the typical licenses it comes with for 2020 and Play as well. That means you're probably planning on using an iPad only and not a gaming PC for simulation. The GC3 is the better launch monitor, no question whatsoever. FSX Pro has improved quite a bit and it's pretty solid now but I still run into some minor bugs. I would say the only advantage ST+ has it that it's software is pretty user friendly and works great on an iPad. If you're going to pay for one of the subscriptions you'll get some cool features and can use E6 and WGT for sim on your iPad. Really hard to answer this without having a conversation but I would say if you want a professional-grade launch monitor that is extremely accurate, reliable, easy to use, and works great indoors and outdoors - go GC3. The ST+ hardware is not near as good as the GC3 but the software has some nice features and works well as an iPad only solution.

@John-ei5uz

9 ай бұрын

@@friendlygolferdotcom Thanks for the awesome response. You are right, I am only getting FSX Pro with it and will primarily use GS Pro with it. So I guess the question should have been which one would you recommend buying at those prices if you want to use GS Pro as your go to simulator soft. Thanks!

@friendlygolferdotcom

9 ай бұрын

GC3. Neither are officially supported but Foresight has announced that integration is in the works so that’s a plus. Everything with a GC3 works flawlessly including putting and chipping. If you have the money it’s worth the difference.

@John-ei5uz

9 ай бұрын

@@friendlygolferdotcom Just what my wallet (and wife) didn't want to hear! Thanks always for your patience with replying.

@friendlygolferdotcom

9 ай бұрын

@@John-ei5uz 🤣 well a lot of people start with one launch monitor and end up upgrading pretty quickly. Just skip the first one and go straight for the upgrade. It’s like you saved money! lol

Most reviews evaluate the Skytrak quite good… but comments seem more negative than some others… 🤷🏼🤷🏼🤔🤔

@friendlygolferdotcom

10 ай бұрын

Honestly reviews on most launch monitors are pretty mixed. It’s really hard to know what’s what until you try it yourself. Also, people are so different in what they want or how they want to use it that what’s great for one is trash for another. After trying things out I just try to paint the picture of what owning it is like as much as possible.

launch pro is too expensive....the club data addition...which you would want an additional 1500, and then you gotta buy sim software fsx...and it is a 700/year subscription.........if your gonna send that much...might as well get a GC 3 or a quad and get the best. I feel they missed the mark with trying to get a launch monitor for avg golfers to use in home/on range at the price point. skytrak plus and rapsodo are pretty damn good units for the prices they are at. I have both. I love both but for different things. rapsodo awesome golf is fun as hell...love their range...approach shots range, coaching range, etc. course play is fun too yet limited and cartoonish. skylark is the bomb...period. gapping, wedge matrix, don't have to have dotted balls....camera measurement....accurate. very nice tool if you r serious about dedicating time to see your numbers and improve on them and make changes to your bag that will help your game and lower your hcp.

@friendlygolferdotcom

6 ай бұрын

Launch pro with club data is $3500 and the gold subscription is now $500/yr. ST+ is $3000 and you’ll want one of their subscriptions for either $130 or $250/yr. They’re not that far off from each other. Certainly could get a GC3 for $7000 and be all in with no subscription if you prefer. I would recommend the Launch Pro to anyone in the US but if you’re not then it’s a pretty big leap in price from ST+ to GC3. If you’re in Canada the uneekor eye Mini is probably the next best thing to a GC3.

surely the bushnell on the basic plan plus gspro seems like a no brainer

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

I agree, but a lot of people get hung up on it not being a supported launch monitor. Also, some think other launch monitors that provide more data make them just as good or better than BLP. Hoping to educate folks so they know what they are getting no matter which one they go with. Also, I like the FSX software and paid for it along with GSPro but it’s expensive. Basic with GSPro is the best bang for your buck.

@ThomasHoffDE

11 ай бұрын

what is the annual cost of the basic software for BLP?

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

@@ThomasHoffDE $250

@clints8888

11 ай бұрын

i’ll take the uneekor mini over both

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

What about it do you like more than BLP? Just curious, I have never used one.

Skytrak is just an expensive Toy

@friendlygolferdotcom

11 ай бұрын

I think there should be a larger gap in price than there is…

@nbargolf

11 ай бұрын

Have you even used a Skytrak+? I have and it's as good as BLP.

@MrShank12u

11 ай бұрын

@@nbargolf I had such a bad experience with my first skytrak that i wouldn’t waste the money to try the new one

@JJedski4200

7 ай бұрын

@@MrShank12uskytrak right now has a trade in event going on to get an upgraded model. I’m just not sure what the catch is if there is one. I haven’t been able to get the original ST to register hitting the ball and have considered it

@MrShank12u

7 ай бұрын

@@JJedski4200 Man the original skytrak was junk. I can’t speak for skytrak + …. I bought a used GC2 and have never looked back. It is a solid unit and always has been. I looked into upgrading recently to a BLP or GC3 (both are same unit). But all of these companies now are making their units unappetizing with forced Subscriptions to get the full capabilities of the unit. All I can tell you for sure is that skytrak did not change their unit enough to ever make me buy one again. Everyone I know and it several are very happy with the performance of the BLP even with having to pay the Subscription to get club data. I can also tell 100% for positive do not fall for that other guys post about TGC19. It is absolutely SHIT. No real contact for issues and absolutely no update to the game at all in the last 7 or 8 years. I have it for the $800 price and it was okay for a while. Then GSPRO came out and has over 700 real courses posted on it… and GROWING… all using LiDAR data… and the software is constantly monitored for problems with a DISCORD CHANNEL and Updates coming to the software every few months for a much better price and graphics than that TGC19 that isn’t nearly as good as it should’ve been. Hope that helps

That’s terrible the Bushnell can’t be used in Canada. 👎👎

@friendlygolferdotcom

8 ай бұрын

It’s a bummer for sure.