Correction to the video. The flaps must be opened in sequence also.

@paulhamrick3943

3 ай бұрын

That kind of rule mistake can easily ruin a game like this, make the experience less tense.

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

So you have even less decisions to actually make than i thought? That makes it worse, not better

Finally getting the chance to use the Ultimate warrior "crash the plane" promo in a video..... so happy with that

The "You crash and die" stuff got me laughing. I love no communication stuff like the Mind, but I;m not as sure about the turns in this one.

Occasionally there is a very popular game that I 100% do not get or understand. The last time was the Mind and here we are again with Sky Team, and experience i found incredibly dull and predictable in every way, and utterly lacking in any kind of tension. Yet it is beloved and many write about it being incredibly tense and exciting. All i can think is that silence does something to other people it doesn't to me, or to Steph for that matter who I played the game with. Both of us played the game in silence, landed or crashed the plane, and it didn't matter. We were just placing dice in obvious ways. Don't put too high or low a number on the wings, try to clear the planes ahead, don't drop too fast, and then clear flaps and landing gear when you can. I just don't see any actual decisions here, and without any real decision making, it just a rote process in silence. It has to be the silence, some kind of psychological effect in other people we just don't connect with for some reason. Because we both think this is the worst game we have played this year, by some margin.

@wicaksonoadi1035

3 ай бұрын

As much as I enjoy playing The Mind and Sky Team, I can understand where you're coming from. You know what's even worse? I've played this game with a person that made me realize, he can totally cheat, illegally manipulating his dice behind the shield without me knowing, just so he can end the game quickly.

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

Geez that's terrible. I've heard people say this is the biggest issue with roll for the galaxy, but thats a competitive game so cheating seems more.... common. Cheating in a co-op is an odd choice.

@ambierona

3 ай бұрын

I had fun with Sky Team (I only played it twice) but I can see there not being many decisions. It seemed like a nice wind-down game for an evening when you don't want too much stress. I went to check out Assembly and it's already on my want to play list 😆 The Mind feels very different to me (it definitely gets tense and exciting for me) but it's also one of my favorite games. I really like limited communication, cooperative, and real-time games though, and The Mind has all of those.

@tbahr123

2 ай бұрын

My wife and I played it on BGA and felt exactly the same way. It was super hyped online and by some friends of ours, but we just found it to be kinda boring and straightforward. Not our style I guess. We love The Mind though 😅

@1Dreamking

2 ай бұрын

@@wicaksonoadi1035 What I love about this game is that the dice are hidden and you are not allowed to communicate your info. That is what makes it stick out from other coops games that even says, play with open hands. Cause with open hands and all player know all things, then it don't feel like I am playing my character and or people will tend to try and alpha the game, So in coops I prefer to play with personal hands/info hidden (but in some game that makes it insanly harder) and we might only be allowed to hint at what we want other people to do or what I can do etc... I only want characters to be able to communicate within given game mechanics for communications, like beeing on the same tile etc or having coms or what ever like making it cost action points... Anywhoo I digress. =P But yes... In this game it opens up for cheating. But I don't understand that, since then where lies the challange and the feeling of success?

It's weird that some people say there's no tension, I play this game a lot with my wife and we are both very tensed every time! After each loss, we discuss which die we should have placed where and especially when to send the right signal to the partner. We usually dislike restricted communication games, but one might say the game LANDS well with us XD

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

Your point of view appears to be the norm about this game based on how well others are rating and reviewing it. We are the outliers here, not you ;)

My wife & I enjoyed this game. I think maybe since you play a lot of games the decisions were pretty obvious for you & your partner. My wife on the other hand doesn’t play many games, the tension for us came in her giving something I enjoy a go & trying to figure out the dice & the challenge for me was to try to anticipate what a “non-gamer” would do so I can compensate 😂

The funny part is that the silence part is actually part of flying airplanes. It’s super odd playing this as a pilot. Your training beats into you to verbalize what you’d just do without talking, especially when things become routine.

@bootstheory

3 ай бұрын

This is one reason I really disliked the game! Not having any pilot training, but being a little hyperfocused on air crash TV shows, the importance of communication and teamwork feels completely opposite to the gameplay.

Maybe it's popular precisely because it allows people to sit with their significant other in near-total silence? ;) As an aviation geek I was certainly interested in this one, but your video reinforced my expectations of what this game would be like to play, so thanks as always.

I do agree that the base mode is on rails. There are a lot more modules to add and it brings much more variability and a lot more tension. It can basically mean you can't make as much coffee, but prioritization does become far more important.

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

Fair enough, we only tried one or 2 of them and it didn't do much for us. But as i said elsewhere, i get its hugely popular with others, just bounced off us hard.

@RobotShield

3 ай бұрын

@@3MBGI also only played it

I love your reviews' concise, information rich structure and conclusions. This certainly suits some players. Thank you

Alas, not all co-ops grab one equally. I think it's good, however, that the space is big enough to incorporate both this and Spirit Island.

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, im not knocking anyone who loves it, just wow did we bounce off it harder than a plane doing 500kph at 45 degrees into the sea.

I enjoyed playing it, and enjoyed the innovation of a game very much designed for two people. Yes I also don't like restrictions on communication, mainly as ours is a sociable hobby, so restricting communication doesn't feel natural or good. FWIW I did feel genuine tension building towards the landing

@arkady7685

3 ай бұрын

There's actually talk in the game after each time you've placed all die, I like that the no communication times are interrupted very regularly and you can talk about what just happened and about what to do

@iansutton7416

3 ай бұрын

@@arkady7685 Yes, that's correct, and does allow for such a strategy chat before the dice are rolled. Oddly, it helped that we were playing a learning game, as there were some rules questions during the nominal 'no talk' periods, avoiding a stony silence.

I didn’t realize South Park had so many plane crashes

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

So so many, i had many many options lol

Did you play the expansion modules? The game is the expansion modules. It's like Spirit Island... You're going to win by the end of the 2 cards unless you up the difficulty. That's by design.

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

A few, they didnt change the core concept and gameplay idea.

My wife and I tried Fox in the Forest Duet and we just hated it. Sometimes, 2 player games just don't work, and I kind of dislike the "no communication" games that are co-op

Literally bought it a couple hours before this aired 🤣

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully you are one of the many who enjoyed it more than we did ;)

@Zydlik7

3 ай бұрын

@@3MBG I should know the day after tomorrow.

@nialls1048

2 ай бұрын

@@Zydlik7verdict?

@angelarcana2187

Ай бұрын

​@@nialls1048 they crashed the plane and died

@Zydlik7

Ай бұрын

​@nialls1048 Fine. Not something I'll play a lot, but it is good with a few beers.

2:11 one little error / the orange player must lower the flaps in order from top to bottom.

@3MBG

Ай бұрын

Yep, has been noted in the pinned comment.

HE'S FROM NEW ZEALAND TF!?

@3MBG

17 күн бұрын

Yes?

I can get not being able to talk about the numbers you rolled, but how are you supposed to work together if you can't communicate about what courses of action to take at all?

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

That's the game apparently. Its not that hard, the numbers you need to place are pretty obvious

@iansutton7416

3 ай бұрын

You can talk, but only before rolling the dice. So it is absolutely possible to formulate a plan together.

@arkady7685

3 ай бұрын

It's actually key to make sure you both are on the same page about priorities

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

I disagree. The extent of the pre-round talk was. "there are 3 planes in our way, best remove them". And that's not having a strategy, that's just stating the obvious, if those planes are not removed, you crash and die. That was our experience with it. You literally have a checklist you need to land the plane, its not hard to figure out, after your 2 mandatory moves you must make each round, how to use your other two dice.

@arkady7685

3 ай бұрын

@@3MBG but sometimes agreeing on something obvious is good and feels good when you play with your spouse XD Jokes aside, in the discussion you can also talk about the values; e.g., since we haven't advances on that track which needs a low value, if I can I will give a lot value there so you can balance it with your higher dice values etc. With the many modules, there is a lot in the check-list, and you can easily get stuck without pre-planning where you'll place low and high values. Anyhow that's our experience with the game. Maybe we have a higher tolerance for games with less hard decision making!

You lost me at the "until the end of the round, you may not talk" moment. I absolutely hated playing that Spiel des Jahres nominee "Magic Maze". Such a terrible way to spend time with friends.

Can you please 🙏 do a video about "Float: from the deep" ❓

@3MBG

2 ай бұрын

Unlikely, as i only found out this game existed when you mentioned it.

It's kind of not clear in your video... You ARE allowed to talk in the game, between dice rolls, to plan your best approach to the challenges. And yes, the first scenario is easy, to get people confortable with the gameplay. It's a shame it didn't hit with you!

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

Its the "play a turn" section, for that turn you cannot, until you start a new turn. It wasn't that it was easy, it was that it was silently going through a process. Look, i get it , we are the outliers here, but we found the core gameplay dull as dishwater.

@3MBG

3 ай бұрын

I just checked the video, i clearly say you cant talk for the rest of the round. You can talk between rounds for planning.

"no communication" games feel so weird to play

Wow I couldn't disagree more. Unsub'd and unfollowed. Wait, Ultimate Warrior reference. Resubbed, refollowed.

My wife liked it, so, happy wife, happy life.