Do you think that Julian Edelman qualifies for the NFL Hall of Fame?

@rockmybrother2226

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Heezo813

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. It's the HOF not the Playoff HOF

@ethancuasay4226

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I mean he is one of many people who literally carried Brady like a mama rocking her baby

@Jasper79598

3 жыл бұрын

He’s a hall of fame post season player.

@nostalgiacorner1999

3 жыл бұрын

He should, but people like statpadders

That catch he made against the Falcons in the super bowl had everyone in Georgia on suicide watch.

@tyjackson8638

3 жыл бұрын

No 🧢

@icetray2727

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@paradisearcher9334

3 жыл бұрын

Don't remind me

@onyourkilllist6880

3 жыл бұрын

Almost as good as the Tyree catch that had Patriots nation on suicide watch after the biggest choke of all time. 18-1

@cl8355

3 жыл бұрын

@@onyourkilllist6880 facts

I was in my dorm room in ATL looking out at the falcons stadium with all the bros screaming “PARADE TOMORROW NO CLASS” at halftime. When Edelman made that catch, the silence was the one screaming. Plus, in that Rams Super Bowl EVERYONE knew Edelman was their only game plan and they still couldn’t stop him. Hats off to an amazing career!

@kimgoalie

3 жыл бұрын

Well said. Sorry for your Super Bowl loss as a Falcons fan, must still hurt 😔

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@bigbangatk666

3 жыл бұрын

Damn bruh 😂 agreed he's a hall of famer.. its not a record book it's a hall of fame.. forget stats he was a special kind of player

@iabuseartemis

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimgoalie still does...still does...

@bryanmoreno8875

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good point you make at the end! He really was the game plan in that last SB, yet he made them look like a college defense with the manner he carved them up.

When they’re not discussing overly opinionated subjects, Shannon and skip are really good

@elchapojrkimgofthetrap2180

3 жыл бұрын

He's the Joe Flacco of WRs

@Jospeh378

3 жыл бұрын

@@elchapojrkimgofthetrap2180 Thanks

@kaquandavis1287

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jospeh378 😂😂😂😂😂

@GoodfellasX21

3 жыл бұрын

Shannon only with football anything else its pointless to listen to him

@Kevinschart

3 жыл бұрын

i prefer when they agree and talk shop. they seem to have more fun.

I think it’s disrespectful how when a player who retires automatically they start saying how he’s not in the hall of fame or not a top ten player this instead of celebrating they career

@laitisvi1750

3 жыл бұрын

Dont forget, he was also suspended for PED use.

@michaelbohlander7240

3 жыл бұрын

@@laitisvi1750 you’d be naive to think 80% of the NFL isn’t on gear lol

@RiccyTBeatz

3 жыл бұрын

@@laitisvi1750 honestly who cares, that doesn't discredit his career

@ryu-ken

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbohlander7240 they test vigorously in the nfl. Most players are clean

@mynoseisdirty1250

3 жыл бұрын

Only the negative matters except with Brady

Not a Pats fan but Edelman was such a great clutch player when it really mattered. It was great watching him play except for when he/they were playing my team! Haha Incredible career and the heart of a lion.

@returnofthebrotha

3 жыл бұрын

Amendola was just as clutch.

@Big_Knowledge

3 жыл бұрын

Not a hall of famer tho

@joshuabable5366

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely

@joemckim1183

2 жыл бұрын

Edelman belongs in the Patriots team Hall of Fame but not the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

@MrSamoannn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Big_Knowledge as a pats fan agreed too. julian def would be in Pats hall but not the Pro football hall of fame.

Shannon Sharpe said it best the last time they discussed this: Julian Edleman has the icing when looking at his playoff numbers, but there's no cake.

@geroshi11

3 жыл бұрын

Bull jive! Pro bowls and seasonal numbers ARE THE ICING. Three rings, clutch moments in the post season and superbowls are the CAKE

@anthonysaah1829

3 жыл бұрын

@@geroshi11 not for a wr tho

@Old.CassetteTapes

3 жыл бұрын

@@geroshi11 patriots fan huh? Lmfao

@dayriassmith7214

3 жыл бұрын

And that’s a fact. He’s been a Eli Manning of Wide Receivers in his career. And he had Tom Brady the G.O.A.T for his whole career

@stopcampin4097

3 жыл бұрын

@@dayriassmith7214 I like Edelman and I’m the furthest from a patriot fan really good receiver but not hof worthy if Tory holt and Reggie Wayne ain’t in Edelman damn sure shouldn’t

It’s kind of crazy that Julian Edelman has zero pro bowl‘s. He’s like two different players.

@P_steez

3 жыл бұрын

He was a great clutch post season receiver but he was just never the best at his position any of the years he played

@kyos8462

3 жыл бұрын

Not even top 5 any years he played

@vanessamartinez211

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyos8462 He was Top 4 WR last 5 yrs 3x champ 4x Pro Bowl 50 TD's 700 Catches

@afilleduptaco

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanessamartinez211 last 5 years: 354 receptions, 21 TDs, 0 pro bowls. Why are you lying?

@zeppelinmexicano

3 жыл бұрын

In general I think that slot receivers are not valued much compared to the high flyers outside the hash marks. Moving the chains and winning games is not valued as much as making a big play that makes the highlight reel.

Even if he doesn't make it in, for a 7th rounder let alone anyone else that's in the NFL, he should be immensely proud and satisfied with his career

@zaynes5094

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t have retired if I were him.

@andrewmacbrien659

2 жыл бұрын

@@zaynes5094 he had no choice he couldn’t pass a physical

@MissionMichelle911

Жыл бұрын

Julian should get in though

@j_c_d_b

Жыл бұрын

@@zaynes5094 facts the pats would be dangerous with him as a vet in that WR room I miss this dude so much

Andre Johnson should be a HOF 5 All Pro appearances 2x Receiving Yard leader 2x Reception leader His best QB was Matt Schaub who isn’t better than Tom Brady or even Deshaun Watson

@brokingcampbell5008

3 жыл бұрын

Dam u put matt schaub in elite company

@Terror832

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR lame You have anything better to do with your life than making cheesy LeBron jokes?

@Thanoshadapoint

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR That was terrible.

@cjfrm3658

3 жыл бұрын

I Don't think Andre Johnson Getting Anytime Soon

@mrray7169

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR how did you involve Lebron in a football discussion? Pathetic

That catch him made against the Falcons in the super bowl was legendary

@Carvel0

3 жыл бұрын

So was the catch that Santonio Holmes made against the Cardinals in the super bowl but he's not in the Hall of Fame

@SuperBatman-jr6rp

3 жыл бұрын

Yep! If he hadn’t made that catch, the Patriots would have lost the Super Bowl.

@witcherfan7315

3 жыл бұрын

@@Carvel0 santonio

@blink182tothestars2

3 жыл бұрын

David Tyree catch against the Patriots was amazing doesnt mean his HOF bound

@Thanoshadapoint

3 жыл бұрын

You’re sleeping on that Seahawks superbowl when he caught it while taking a shot from Cam Chancellor.

I’m a die hard ravens fan and i salute Julian Edelman... guys a straight dog! A go getter if you will!

@scottyc9917

3 жыл бұрын

This debate could be similar for flacco

@drewpocernich2540

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottyc9917 Flacco plays one of the positions that's known for longevity. Edelman Plays Wide Receiver and was primarily a after the catch receiver, not a run out of bounds receiver. No, it's not similar and the comparison is just disrespectful (although I see what you are thinking of).

@TommyDavidVerbal

3 жыл бұрын

Saluting him doesn't make him a hof

@JacaboBlanco

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottyc9917 eh kind of but not to the same degree. Julian is the second ALL TIME only behind Jerry in playoff numbers. Flacco just had one historic playoff run, and a couple other decent ones. But I get ya.

@georgebrady5369

3 жыл бұрын

@@JacaboBlanco Julian has also played a LOT OF PLAYOFF GAMES and his QB IN ALL OF THEM WAS THE GOAT BRADY.

I mean the greatest coach of all time said this “By any measure of what constitutes an elite NFL career - wins, championships, production - Julian has it all" . That says it all.

@mattk468

3 жыл бұрын

Yet doesn’t say hof entry lol

@omenka8389

3 жыл бұрын

doesn’t say hall of fame career. and julian def doesn’t have the regular season production.

@antoniojauregui4438

3 жыл бұрын

Hmak2009 so that means troy Brown deion branch belong in the hof heck no Edelman is not a hof

@zaynes5094

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattk468 Ok. So what are you saying? What’s your argument? I don’t think he’ll make it in, but he’ll get my respect for his playoff numbers.

Undisputed gonna hit different tomorrow discussing the Shannon & KD beef 🍿...

@Terror832

3 жыл бұрын

“But I’m sensitive”

@ChrisJones12957

3 жыл бұрын

what happened

@Topnotchryde88

3 жыл бұрын

KD made strong points though. Shannon lie & then got low

@artariusjackson6960

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR curry is small he’s just tall I think it’s a difference

@LASAGNA_LARRY

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR Steph is 6' 3", which is short for NBA standards. NBA average player height is 6' 7". Shannon is 6' 2", which is average for NFL standards. NFL average player height is 6' 2".

He will be on the Patriots Hall of Fame but not in the Pro football Hall of Fame

@itzandy0427

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR hahaha😐

@Legend-by1gs

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR step away from the keyboard and realize how much of a loser you are. Smh.

@tr3yz_12

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR 👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻👨🏻‍💻

@28kcskate

3 жыл бұрын

If Calvin Johnson can get in with no Super Bowls Jules getting in

@B1GD33R

3 жыл бұрын

@@28kcskate bro Super Bowls means absolutely nothing😂 and megatron played for Detroit not the best QB every cmon now

One of the best discussions from these two. When they aren’t yelling and are just talking about careers and sports history they have an amazing dynamic.

Regardless if they put him in the HOF or not, his career is more memorable than that of many players in the HOF. Julian should be proud of what he’s accomplished

@raymorris8447

3 жыл бұрын

If they are in the HOF, we probably don't remember because it's been so long ago.

@jona1han2k4

3 жыл бұрын

Name a receiver .. I’ll wait

@Soulsebb

3 жыл бұрын

@@jona1han2k4 any receiver?

@raymorris8447

3 жыл бұрын

Name a HOF reciever whose name isnt bigger that Edelman...

@Soulsebb

3 жыл бұрын

@@raymorris8447 he just said a hall of famer, he didn’t say hall of fame receiver. And I agree with your idea but I think he does too. Obviously Edelman shouldn’t be in the HOF, but he should be proud of himself because he has made a name for himself that even some hof players haven’t (not necessarily hof receivers just some hof players in general)

If Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt, Chad Johnson and Sterling Sharpe can't get in I don't think Edelman will.

@nastyc85

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@EFunkRock

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t put Chad Johnson in.

@benjacoby4899

3 жыл бұрын

@@EFunkRock thats fine but then Julian Edelman should get nowhere near the hall of fame

@zacharycromlish7337

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjacoby4899 if that’s the case, Megatron shouldn’t be in 🤷🏻‍♂️

@EFunkRock

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjacoby4899 I agree!! There are WAY more deserving pros that are long overdue for HOF induction.

"If you have to even think about it for a second, they don't deserve to be in it" Don't turn the NFL HoF into the Rock n Roll HoF.

@matthewrichard9158

3 жыл бұрын

It shouldnt be easy to get in. Its the HoF for a reason. Its like people saying rivers, eli, and flacco getting in. They were good but not all time greats

@elchapojrkimgofthetrap2180

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewrichard9158 Rivers is the only one with a case. Sadly only reason people say Eli is cause of those Superbowls which Michael skill should have one of those MVPs.

@Jospeh378

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewrichard9158 I 100% belong in the Hall of Fame

@RiccyTBeatz

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewrichard9158 Flacco isnt in the same breath as Eli and Rivers and those two are borderline

@matthewrichard9158

3 жыл бұрын

@@RiccyTBeatz im naming names. Flacco has a sb and sb mvp which rivers doesnt. Im just saying those 3 dont deserve to be in but out of those 3 id say rivers was the best

He basically single handedly broke a superbowl open, he made an incredible top 5 all time catch in another super bowl. Great blocker great post season one of the best 3rd down receivers ever. Returned balls threw balls ran balls caught balls blocked he did everything.

@jaredmichaud6754

Жыл бұрын

played some defense too in this first few years

He deserves it for what he did in the postseason... he was amazing, he is the definition of a WARRIOR he never let us down when it mattered

@steel148

2 жыл бұрын

Nope he used PEDs

@linggo_roscato838

2 жыл бұрын

@@steel148 and jerry rice used stick em so df what?

What he and brady had was so simple but so unstoppable, five yards left or five yards right it was that simple but no one could copy it or stop it dude was money

People will say he is not a Hall Of Famer but people will never forget his post seasons with the Patriots 💯

Julian kept the drives alive and chains moving. He went across the middle without fear. He was incredible at getting open. Overall, He did his specific assignments as well as anyone.

@codymartin2545

10 ай бұрын

Facts 🔥🔥

He was an absolute monster when it mattered (in the playoffs)

@championshipdrive2308

3 жыл бұрын

You can’t get in off that alone. I’m a Patriots fan and he’s a Patriots HOFer but not an NFL HOFer. He’s in the hall of very good as Skip would say. That being said I wish people would celebrate his career for a few days before they have this debate.

@jordanonline7923

3 жыл бұрын

He going to make the hof because of his playoffs success I just know

@yungod1147

3 жыл бұрын

@@jordanonline7923 Edelman has never been a pro bowler. Never been 1st or 2nd all team. Not happening.

@championshipdrive2308

3 жыл бұрын

@@jordanonline7923 Welker has a better shot at getting in. Edelman didn’t define his position, all he has is playoff success, doesn’t have the regular season stats to justify it. No way, no how does Edelman get into the NFL HOF.

@pooman3138

3 жыл бұрын

@@yungod1147 probowls don't matter superbowls ( championships) matter which one would you want

Ya know, I wasn't too high on this subject coming in. I'm kinda like, can't we let him enjoy retirement and sing his praises for a bit before picking his career apart? But the guys found a good balance here. They managed to celebrate his career and discuss whether he belongs in the hall of fame without tearing him down. Big kudos for that.

Miami fan here. Total respect for Edleman and his attitude. Exactly how I approach my life/work.

The man should be on the HOF! A given for the Patriots HOF!

The fact sterling sharpe and Hines ward aren’t in the hall of fame is just criminal

@maccheesepookamusic2chill224

3 жыл бұрын

Hines ward definitely 🤙🏾👍🏾

@cl8355

3 жыл бұрын

Tory Holt got better numbers than both of them. He aint even in

@philthornton1382

3 жыл бұрын

Sterling Sharpe 0 rings ..... Hines Ward however all round quality

@cl8355

3 жыл бұрын

@@philthornton1382 we dont count wr rings. Only QBs

@JabrenHarris98

3 жыл бұрын

@@philthornton1382 Sterling Sharpe was the closest receiver to Jerry Rice. Gale Sayers was in the league for 7 years and put up HOF numbers with no rings. Same thing Sterling Sharpe did put up HOF numbers in 7 years. They both retired early cause of injuries but Sharpes was a career ending injury

Hall of Fame carrier; a true warrior. The best all around player that is or ever will be......Thanks for all the great moments in Football Julian... These moments in play are the reasons we hang pictures of great performers in the "Hall of Fame". You Julian Edelman are the reasons we have such a place like this in Canton, Ohio......Thank you, Thank you, Thank you...

Thanks for the show!

I really enjoyed this segment. When they’re not irrationally biased and arguing they seem very logical and still entertaining

It's hard to get into the Hall of Fame without any pro bowl selections

@jordanonline7923

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter cause NFL still going put him in the hof they love us patriots

@laitisvi1750

3 жыл бұрын

@C De No. Never top receiver, no pro bowls + suspended for PED use. Just no. Thats it.

@damitrimoore

3 жыл бұрын

@C De the hall of fame ain't there to sell tickets and promote lol. They kinda have a strong base already. Pick the qualified people.

@efraimsoloway4420

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a fan vote tho who cares

@slickway_apparel

3 жыл бұрын

@@laitisvi1750 excalty like y’all on his nuts some much y’all can’t even see he was a okay receiver played great in the playoffs that’s it never took over a game never had a season where he was top 5 never even came close to a pro bowl WR were does he rank with WR of his Era 🤔🤔🤔 like 28th cmon stop it enjoy his career but leave HOF outta of it

he’s a playoff legend and had a good career in new england. i’m a patriot fan and would love to see him in the HOF because he is probably one of the best playoff receivers of all time.

@YourDaddy223

3 жыл бұрын

Easily

@kimgoalie

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@damitrimoore

3 жыл бұрын

They made ring of honors for this. Dont split the stats to put people in.

@ryancampbell484

3 жыл бұрын

he was never a transcendent player lol, the HOF is for players that were transcendent. Edelman is a good receiver but not a transcendent receiver. This is the same reason that Eli manning doesn't belong in the HOF either.

@cornellmelton5092

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryancampbell484 i agree he was good but he's not a transcendent if he gets in HOF ,to me Andre Johnson should get it & sterling sharpe .

My initial thought was heck no, but the more I think about it he’s literally one of the only guys I can think of who never drops the football and his contributions to those super bowl teams are priceless. I dunno man...all I know is whenever I watched the pats and they threw to Edelman it was automatic almost 100% of the time.

@bridget5180

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Always caught the throws down the middle of the field in double coverage, ran unbelievable routes.

@MissionMichelle911

Жыл бұрын

he dropped 1 big one. other than that, yes

@StFigarlandGarling

Жыл бұрын

Never drops the football Leads the league in drops 5 times

@MissionMichelle911

Жыл бұрын

@@StFigarlandGarling Edelman, lead league in drops?

@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog

Жыл бұрын

@@StFigarlandGarling I never saw it

The hall of fame should not be just about the numbers but also about the overall impact to the game. If for an entire decade, a player has caused the league defenses to game plan (most often unsuccessfully) around this player and has pushed the league to start valuing the slot receiver position, then Edelman should get in if you add his overall impact to his post season numbers.

@TheKidwonda

9 ай бұрын

Wes Welker did that before Edelman

All I’m waiting for is the insight about the beef with Shannon and KD tmmr with undisputed and its gonna be fire 🔥

@eugenebelcher3

3 жыл бұрын

No way they beefing?

@nostalgiacorner1999

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR 🤣🤣🤣

@user-nd7xu8sb7p

3 жыл бұрын

@Ade ToVAR 😂😂

If Sterling Sharp is not in the HOF...there is NO way Julian can be there.

@shaynagubert4156

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why people treat it like an either-or though. It's not like only 1 WR from the last 20 years can make it in! Everyone says Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer bc two clutch playoff runs & then holds every other position to a different standard. If every QB we consider "great" gets in, there shouldn't be different expectations for other positions.

@shavarez

3 жыл бұрын

Reggie Wayne Ocho Cinco Hines Ward

@hermanjackson6429

3 жыл бұрын

@@shaynagubert4156 Agree

@moadewunmi9380

3 жыл бұрын

Eli Manning is also 8th all times in yards and a QB contributes far more to winning than a slot receiver does. So you can take clutch into account there.

@vlmmnadet1304

2 жыл бұрын

Are you serious? Blame Edelman for Sterling's career demise?

The guy showed up in the big games no matter what everybody says he was awesome against Atlanta Seattle in those super bowls they were unreal performances

@001M19

2 жыл бұрын

Also Again the rams

Not one Pro Bowl but somehow I see him getting in at age 50 on a soft hof class year

@CaptanF0rever

3 жыл бұрын

Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. I understand why Edelman doesn't make it in the hall, though.

@afilleduptaco

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptanF0rever what about all pros? He had none

@bimbsthekingkunta5653

3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptanF0rever his a decent role player at best his a slow slot receiver with above average hands

@stopcampin4097

3 жыл бұрын

@@afilleduptaco he ain’t a hofer

@arnabiarnab3037

3 жыл бұрын

Soft???.... the way these QBs are throwing.... even an average WR can get an easy 1K yard a season.... the top WR gonna start averaging 1500 a yards minimum a season

Jules is one of the most dominant players I have ever watched. His impact on the patriots offense was immense as he was Brady’s go-to guy every game, especially when gronk was injured. He played special teams, defense (slot corner a couple times)!and was great in the run game as well. I can’t remember a time he was taken out of a game because he was so great at creating space in short routes.

@laitisvi1750

11 ай бұрын

He also used PED's like a BEAST.

@burtringo7100

7 ай бұрын

@@laitisvi1750 you seem pretty hung up on him using PED as if he stole your momma's secret stash lol. Here's a quote from a USA Today article... "Since 2001, NFL players have been suspended for performance-enhancing drugs and related substances at least 258 times, including at least 82 times in the past five years, according to a newly published database compiled by USA TODAY Sports. The violations have affected every team in the league and every position on the field, including players who have been named to the Pro Bowl and even long snappers, quarterbacks and at least one placekicker." If you're going to hate on someone, at least pick something a little more meaningful.

@laitisvi1750

7 ай бұрын

@@burtringo7100 Edelman never made to pro bowl.

@burtringo7100

7 ай бұрын

@@laitisvi1750 Now that's a better argument

@laitisvi1750

7 ай бұрын

@@burtringo7100 okay

I can see a display about Edelmen during the Super Bowl in the Hall, but I can't see an actual entry to the Hall itself

@zeppelinmexicano

3 жыл бұрын

They do have plaques for individual achievements like game plans and I'd be happy to see a little audio-visual display of Julian's catch in a room with other great catches. There are plenty. Why not do it? We have the technology now to watch individual plays submitted as all time great plays. Others that come to mind (SBs): Manningham, Tyree, Kearse, Fitzgerald, Holmes, Swann

Outstanding conversation and debate gentlemen

Patriot fans will always remember him. Most Hall of Famers get forgotten anyways unless your a legend.

@gxdzfxrst2940

Жыл бұрын

Don't disrespect the Hall Of Fame just because an average player didn't make it in.

He needs to get in line to be even considered. Andre Johnson, Chad 85, Hines Ward is very under appreciated (look at his numbers and accomplishments) and Torry Holt. Also, the man on this panel's older brother.

Edelman and Amendola are the probably the most disarmingly talented receivers for their size that I have ever watched. I honestly think Julian's career would have lasted another 2-3 years had he not been tasked with punt and kickoff returns. Great player; not a Hall of Famer, in my opinion.

@19580822

3 жыл бұрын

There's this other disarmingly talented small receiver by the name of Wes Welker.....

@afilleduptaco

3 жыл бұрын

Steve largent

@bori1986

3 жыл бұрын

Wes Welker

There’s hardly ever been anyone in NFL history been as clutch as Edelman in big games. Regardless of whether he deserves to be in HOF.

@raymorris8447

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Irving, Jerry Rice, Jason Witton, Antonio Brown, Julio Jones....I could go on and on....

U can make such a good argument for both sides it’s insane

He won’t get in... but the fact you can have this debate based off his postseason success says something. Special player

@jaysonwilliam3856

3 жыл бұрын

HE IS A SLOT RECEIVER... HE DOES NOT LINE UP OUTSIDE AGAINST DEFENSIVE BACKS... GTFOH HIS QB WAS A CHECK DOWN CHARLIE AND HE BENEFITED. PERIOD

@RiccyTBeatz

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysonwilliam3856 Bro you hating too much fr. He was a good receiver

@ericsenecal9203

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysonwilliam3856 most clutch receiver to ever play and yes I really mean that

@HistoricalPolitician

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaysonwilliam3856 Salty Falcons fan alert

@tombradybucs12newenglandpa13

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaysonwilliam3856 caps lock doesn’t make you right

Can we appreciate this man's career when it mattered and a catch needed to happen and everyone in the stadium knew where the ball was going this man delivered time after time CLUTCH

They're really good on this one. You can tell.. this one means a lot. It will come down to Edleman's postseason production. Someone has to make those tough, difficult, catches.. or there is no Super Bowl victory parade(s). ( 3 ). Hall Of Fame? YES!

Great debate and great case made by skip.

He got something better then pro bowls he got 5 super bowl appearances and 3 super wins

@KevinDiazx11

3 жыл бұрын

And super bowl mvp

@uppymcdowny58

3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy G has 2 rings. GET THAT MAN IN THE HALL OF FAME

@migodabbing6951

3 жыл бұрын

@@uppymcdowny58 he only played in one sb

@Twkout

3 жыл бұрын

He can thank Tom brady

@cjfrm3658

3 жыл бұрын

That's The team sport

Yes I do believe he qualifies his Super Bowl performances were legendary on a side note I believe Troy Brown should get some consideration too he was the most versatile Patriot I've ever seen he set the stage for Wes Walker and Edelman and Amendola

@kyos8462

3 жыл бұрын

Pats hall of fame...not nfl HoF. Take away brady you have a 5 or 6 year career. To many ahead of him that deserve it

@zeppelinmexicano

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyos8462 take away Brady? Talk about rewriting history, just take Joe away from Jerry or Troy away from Michael Irving while you're at it. I think you can make a cogent argument that Julian's total body of work is not sufficient without getting into taking away a QB whom he was intuitively matched. Why try to destroy what makes team sports special? It's about the team effect, the being on the same page effect that makes guys reach greatness.

@zeppelinmexicano

3 жыл бұрын

Troy Brown may be the most underrated player of value in NFL history. He was Mr. Everything and a very steady influence in the locker room to boot. That walk off catch against Miami, wow ...

@minoxknoctis5851

3 жыл бұрын

If you think Julian deserves to be in the HOF so should Eli. Guys like Hinds Ward who have betters stats and superbowl wins aren't in the HOF yet

@youropinionmeansnothing2825

3 жыл бұрын

@@minoxknoctis5851 Same with Flacco totally different player in the postseason

I Think he should eventually get into the HoF purely because of his grit and ability to do what others won’t do, and step up to any task you ask him. For him being a wr they should really consider how hard he played compared to other receivers

@ThogoBoon

6 ай бұрын

I now he doesn’t have that many signatures catches compared to some other players, but his longevity and willingness to do whatever necessary, if it’s blocking, playing db, throwing the ball, not many receivers would dare put their body in situations half as dangerous as Edelman

*~Skip Bayless on the Football Hall of Fame~* •”Changing my FHofF qualifications once for”• •”Julian Edelman belongs in the FHofF”• •"T.O. does not belong in the FHofF”•

@Shawnantonioexperience

3 жыл бұрын

I came here to say the sameeeeeee thing 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

@jessehovey3498

3 жыл бұрын

He clearly said Edelman will never get in the HoF and he was playing devils advocate

@GooniesNeverSayDie1980

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessehovey3498 It's not about J.E. actually gaining entrance into the FHofF..... It's about Skip using J.E.'s numbers to reach the FHofF.... It's about Skip not using T.O.'s numbers to keep T.O. out the FHofF....

I feel it's unfair to talk about this the very day he retires. Don'´t give him this kind of welcome to retirement. Celebrate his career for a day.

Forgot all this Edelman talk, I’m waiting for Shannon to talk about KD tomorrow 🤣

i loved seeing lynn swann in water boy as well as the others, my main man lt, 56 who redefined his position, but remember lynn and the immaculate reception? i does.

I'm biased as a Pats fan so naturally I say yes that man did so much for our organization, so do with that what you will. In any case I miss JE11 what a warrior he was

So 3x champion , super bowl MVP and all the amazing catches he had for Brady ( specially the falcon super bowl game that catch was legendary) and all catches and touchdown that he has made in the nfl and super bowl he deserve a spot in the hall of fame I’m not saying he is first ballot but he deserve to be in the hall of fame

@War_Maker

3 жыл бұрын

No he doesnt.

@unintentionaleffectiveness4393

3 жыл бұрын

That’s nowhere near enough lmao, executives during the Patriots era get rings too you know? Horry was a 7 time champion and hit game winners, that don’t make him a ball of famer 😂

@Dabeast1911Que

3 жыл бұрын

No he doesn't he's not good enough. Neither does eli or rivers

He's mr.postseason

I watched this guy every week he is a hall of famer!

I would love to get a top 10 list from both of these guys of people who deserve to be in the Hall

THe man played QB , Defence , WR , Special Teams , he blocked, returned punts.. he did it all. One of my favorite players. Sadly he will never sniff the HoF

@markpoidvin5382

3 жыл бұрын

That is the problem with the H of F, they celebrate a position and forget about legendary FB players. JE is an all around amazing FB player. He dd not catch 40 yard bombs but they don't win games. The 5 to 15 yard catches do. Creates time of possession, opens up the wide receivers and the run game by making them back off line of scrimmage just a bit. He belongs in the H of Fame. Julian Edelman position" Football Player".

@gxdzfxrst2940

Жыл бұрын

@@markpoidvin5382 That's not true at all, Edelman doesn't have HOF stats. He hasn't made a pro bowl. He's average.

@markpoidvin5382

Жыл бұрын

@@gxdzfxrst2940 That is my point. He is not considered top in league in any one thing, that is pro bowl, criteria, but he is a good runner, returner, blocker, slot receiver ( a very underrated position). And the famous play " the catch: is the most average looking 10 times every Sunday TD pass and catch you will find. It was before my time and when I saw it finally I was stunned. Ni idea why it is special in any way. " The Catch" is more like what Edelman did in Super Bowl 50, that is one for the ages. Probably the best catch I have ever seen, and by far the most clutch. Football is like anything else, some players get all the attention when they are not that good.

@gxdzfxrst2940

Жыл бұрын

@@markpoidvin5382 Julian Edelman's catch wasn't anything special though. Your average college receiver makes a better catch each game.

One of the best big game receivers ever

and edelman did other things that don't show up on stats for his position. Like blocking and throwing passes and 1td, kick and punt returns, and playing defense things that some of the other receivers ahead of him didn't do.

His heart was bigger than his body. What a player

It's so tough because the Patriots spent 20 years creating an offense that was specifically designed to create issues for other teams to plan against. Edelman was a pro-bowl "level" talent on his team. But, aside from Brady, the Patriots had so few pro-bowlers on offense. A great player is one who plays at the absolute top when it's needed. Edelman didn't need 2,000 yards in the regular season because there were 12 different players every year catching TD passes from Brady and they would still have 13+ wins almost every season. I hate that Edelman is going to be judged against regular season production when he did everything he was asked to, and he has far greater stats and achievements than many people in the HoF. The man GOT. SH*T. DONE. And that's more than even people like Drew Brees and Peyton Manning can say when they look at the rings on their fingers.

@pickettmandi

3 жыл бұрын

Great post, the Patriot hate is real though.

@elbowgang9715

3 жыл бұрын

Get over it he's not getting in 😂

@LASAGNA_LARRY

3 жыл бұрын

@@elbowgang9715 Edelman will probably be one of the best players to not make the HoF.

@gxdzfxrst2940

Жыл бұрын

@@LASAGNA_LARRY Not really, if he doesn't have one pro bowl, he's nothing special.

@gxdzfxrst2940

Жыл бұрын

Ok, you're either trolling or lying. There's no way a guy with no pro bowl appearances has better achievements than a HOF'er.

The guy made big catches in big games time and time again. That is worth something if you ask me.

JE11 is MR Clutch. That stat about his 3rd down catches for 1st dowms says all. When the game is on the line, you could count on him to be big. I think he deserves to be in the Hall.

I always think you consider the whole body of work. Hes one of the great clutch WRs in history. But he was also one of the leagues best punt returners early on. Even played some defensive back snaps. Hes 6-6 throwing the ball.

All the Edelman stats are also a testament to Tom Brady's ability

He has the team success but the HOF is an individual award and Edelmans stats just aren’t good enough

@devinadair9287

3 жыл бұрын

Words from a wiseman

@dfed324

3 жыл бұрын

Did Edelman never get picked for the Pro Bowl?? Or did he just decline to go every time?

@CallMeRC10

3 жыл бұрын

@@dfed324 never selected

Never seen a guy shrug off more hits like they were nothing. Wow Julian is the man.

The play vs Seattle was incredible. Got nearly killed and just kept going forward

Havent seen the video but if edelman deserves to be in the hall of fame than sterling sharpe should too real talk💯

@vinnybrown1122

3 жыл бұрын

If Edelman should be in the hof then the floodgates should open

@FBA-Chuckyd0421

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that same thought

its crazy you're saying he needs pro bowls to get into the hall of fame..super bowl mvp sounds a lot better..championships sound a lot better..being a hard worker and a winner sounds better!!! you can have your hall of fame, i bet julian is happy with what he did!!!!

Maybe I’m biased cause I’m a pats fan, but man it’s a really interesting career cause obviously in the regular season his numbers don’t stack up to guys that still haven’t made it in at the same position, but the guy is also 2nd all time in playoff receiving yards, has a super bowl MVP, one of the craziest catches ever made in super bowl 51 and he had to go ahead TD pass in 49. Obviously playing with Brady greatly helped him, but time and time again he made late plays that helped the pats win a lot of games. I think he gets in the HOF eventually, but if it is gonna happen it’s gonna be way down the line

Edelman is a multiple time champion, made ridiculous catches - and throws - was a key target in a dynasty and a Super Bowl MVP. He absolutely should make it in. Not first ballot, but somewhere down the line, yes.

@rickytavilla4259

2 жыл бұрын

Well put

Edelman was on a winning team that's why his numbers aren't like these other high profile receivers. Most of those guys teams don't make the playoffs, they have garbage time stats. Edelman's stats mattered at the most important moments

@raymorris8447

3 жыл бұрын

He caught open passes, and that's about it.

If he's in then so is Eric Moulds. Laverneous Coles. A guy named Hines Ward?? Come on.

It’s so tough. In the playoffs he’s hall of fame and arguably that matters more than regular season but at the same time it does matter that he was not great in the regular season

Edelman had an important career with lots of all time plays. He's definitely a HOF candidate as his story is belongs in the hall

I don’t ever disagree with Skip, but this time I am. Julian is a hall of famer. Hands down.

Man I don't know. Nobody other than Jerry has done what he's done in the playoffs. His situation is extremely unique.

He's in just for starting out as a QB and went tf off as a wide receiver in the clutch

Let the man enjoy his retirement first ! So what if he doesn't make the HOF! Jules had a great and I mean a great productive career with the Patriots and nobody can never ever take that away from him his production on the field speaks for itself he showed up when it really counted with great eye vision, speed ,toughness, and a great pair of hands and three superbowls! Way to go julian!👍👍👍💯

Edelman may not light up the stats but he is clutch when it counts.

Never in a day would I argue Julian is a better wideout then the modern receivers Shannon listed. HOWEVER, all of those wideouts Shannon missed don't even have one ring, Jules has 3, and was a big part in each of those wins. If you just looked at regular season stats then yes, he would never sniff the HoF, HOWEVER X2 you can't disregard him as being the best WR in the post season this era. Name a better wideout with better numbers n more rings? Idk it's a hard debate I get that but my side is (biased I will admit lol) is he deserves to be in the HoF, the only other constant receiver Brady had was Gronk (when he wasn't injured, which was a TON during the post season) so I think that goes to show something.

@ziegfeld4131

3 жыл бұрын

Um Holt and Ward have rings and Ward was a superbowl mvp thank you very much

@RushieGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@ziegfeld4131 2v3 and I'd argue Ward isn't in the gen I'm talking about? can you read?

Great postseason player, tuff as nails, heart of a 🦁 he should get in on the second or third ballet, but I believe he's a hall of famer.

Edelman post season and Edelman regular season are like 2 different players. I feel bad for him that he never made a pro bowl. But his regular season wasn’t good enough but great player, great career. Wish the best.

Skips credibility when it comes to HOF talk was shot when he contradicted himself by saying on one side of his mouth "If I have to think about it,you're not in" but on the other side TO didn't belong

I won’t be mad if he doesn’t get in. Not everyone gets in.

@THINKTVTIME

3 жыл бұрын

u sound mad hating.... dont discriminate cause he ain't black. dude has a case to be in. don't be upset

@icetray2727

3 жыл бұрын

@@THINKTVTIME oh yeah I’m the Patriots fan that’s hating on Edelman. Why does everything have to be racial?

@LASAGNA_LARRY

3 жыл бұрын

Only dumbos make everything about race.

@THINKTVTIME

3 жыл бұрын

@@LASAGNA_LARRY everyone always does which is why its gotta be addressed. everytime.

@RiccyTBeatz

3 жыл бұрын

@@THINKTVTIME take a seat cuz

How many times have you seen Edelman catches on KZread comparing to HOF players? Many times more because his were way more important. His catches will be remembered forever. He was the best when during the important battles. Many players earn their stats during a backayrd games.

He's legendary

Everyone wants every player to be in the Hall. Just when they retire it’s always “He should be in the Hall of Fame” No he does not belong in the Hall. Deion was right they letting just anyone get in.

He doesn’t but that doesn’t make him a bad player

hes just got to be in there. Julian edelman is what football is all about. No pro bowls doesnt matter. Hes a superbowl mvp and a has the heart of a lion

Yes dude is the epitome of what a hall of famer is. Consistency,Toughness,Dependable and he always run right up the slot knowing he would get lit up for YEARS and would get right back up. Was one of the smaller guys in the NFL and yet played like the biggest. You came in originally as just a replacement for Wes Welker and blazed your own trail you are a legend because someone will always tell their kids and their kids kids about you.Enjoy retirement you deserve it.