SKEPTICS DEBUNKED! Why Did Joseph Go to Bethlehem?
Today I want to debunk an objection that a lot of skeptics make to an event in the Gospels.
And, frankly, some of them are really arrogant and snarky about it.
It has to do with something Luke says.
Here is where mockery commonly begins.
“This is ridiculous!” the skeptic will say. “David lived a thousand years before the time of Jesus! The Roman Empire would never conduct a census this way! It would never require people to go where one of their ancestors lived a thousand years ago! Nobody would even know that! I mean, do you know the city where your ancestors lived a thousand years ago?”
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Skeptics apparently are possessed of 1) ego influence and 2) excess free time.
Military families often have similar residences where the family stays home while the member has a temporary residence near work.
Brilliant! But... If Joseph had a home in Bethlehem, why was her looking for a room at an inn, let alone settling for a stable or a cave?
@_Gormakesh_
Ай бұрын
Although most bibles translate it as an inn, the actual word is simply "guest room". So it could be that Joseph was staying with his family, but someone else was already in the guest room.
@Army4Runner
Ай бұрын
A stable attached to a home would almost certainly be a cave or some other natural geological formation providing shelter. When modern humans see the word “inn” we formulate images of a structure that just didn’t exist back then.
@miran213
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@@_Gormakesh_ It's still a bit odd that whoever is staying in the "guest room" of a residence that has something to do with Joseph family-wise, would not make room for a woman who is nine months pregnant, probably visibly days from giving birth.
@_Gormakesh_
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@@miran213 Yeah, for us it seems weird, but you have to remember that they had a different culture.
@nightyew2160
29 күн бұрын
Also, you have to remember that according to Jewish law, childbirth made Mary ritually unclean. Giving birth in the stable would have prevented making the beds in the main part of the house ritually unclean.
Your accent is coming back with a vengeance! Love it.
Ehrman was totally unprepared for this response you gave. It was a great moment. 😊
@tomasrocha6139
Ай бұрын
Joseph the carpenter owned two homes but Jesus was born in a manger?
@tonyl3762
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@@tomasrocha6139 Ever been in a multi-family house that was over-crowded that you had to sleep on the couch or outside? That is the relevant modern comparison to Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. They had to stay in the part of the house where the animals were kept, which may have been downstairs or built adjacent a cave. What do you think the homes of craftsmen/workmen looked like in 1st c. Judea? Wouldn't a craftsman like Joseph be more likely to build more than one home based on his skillset?
@tomasrocha6139
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@@tonyl3762 Did they return as soon as they fulfilled all the Mosaic Law required of them or did they stay for 2 years before fleeing to Egypt?
@tonyl3762
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@@tomasrocha6139 Not sure the timeline is precisely clear.... I would assume they fled to Egypt before the 2 yrs that Herod used as a cutoff. Is there a reason you ask that question?
@tomasrocha6139
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@@tonyl3762 Luke says they returned upon completing all the Mosaic Law demanded, Matthew has them fleeing to Egypt after up to 2 years
It is also worth remembering that Luke was *not* writing with people 1-2 thousand years later specifically in mind (people with no personal familiarity with how the Roman Empire functioned). He was writing for an audience of people who not only mostly lived in the Roman Empire but either had been enrolled in that same census or had relatives who had been. They would obviously know how it worked, and if he made up some notion of going back to ancestral homes, everyone would have called him out on it.
@tomasrocha6139
Ай бұрын
No, Luke is written for a gentile audience. There's no reason to think people didn't call him out on it just because we don't have a text doing as much, most ancient texts are lost and Christian Emperors banned and burnt polemics against Christianity.
@CMVBrielman
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@@tomasrocha6139 Most Romans were gentiles.
@tomasrocha6139
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@@CMVBrielman Yes so they weren't enrolled in the census. Unless you think the registration of the whole Roman world meant a singular census of the whole empire, of which there is no record, which would be odd since the whole point of a census is to record things.
I listened to this in the morning at my hotel while I was getting ready for my work trip and I felt solidarity with the Holy Family 😊
Is "Skeptics Debunked" an ongoing theme of your KZread channel like your "Mysterious World" videos? If not, it should be! I find this is a succinct format of Catholic/Christian apologetics that is easily understood and is memorable. I would love to see more "debunking" videos. Thank you for your ministry. ❤🔥✝
@JimmyAkin
Ай бұрын
Howdy, Hildy! "Skeptics Debunked" may become a regular on the channel. What *is* planned to be a new regular is shorter form, apologetic videos. I'm currently trying to have a video out every day, with Fridays being Mysterious World day.
For anyone who's interested in Joseph and Mary's family situation (and how their poverty may have been a direct consequence of the conception of Jesus) I highly recommend "Jesus: The Incarnation of the Word" by David C. Mitchell. In context, it makes all the sense in the world why Joseph, a native of Bethlehem, would have set up residence and set up shop in Nazareth, quite close to Sepphoris, which was having a building boom at the time. Good work for a carpenter/builder.
I love a historical bible study. Very interesting
Anyone ever been in a multi-family house that was over-crowded that you had to sleep on the couch or outside? That is the relevant modern comparison to Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. They had to stay in the part of the house where the animals were kept, which may have been downstairs or built adjacent a cave.
Good stuff Jimmy! Love the short videos. I like long format videos too, but this is a good change up.
Before seeing this, I have just accepted the fact that Saint Joseph followed the census law of the time without question. This video makes so much sense! Thank you, Jimmy! I have a similar situation with an official home in my home country and a residence in the US where I do business and work. It all tied in well together and even shed light on my own journey of having “multiple residences” in a way. 🙏
Hi Jimmy, I hate to be a Debby-downer about the skeptics being arrogant and snarky, but the truth of the matter is that they aren’t interested in truth at all. They’re just interested in tearing down and being overly pessimistic about every aspect of human experience and history (a rather modern and historically rare position). In my experience, very few skeptics are actually skeptics searching for truth. They’re mostly nihilistic existentialists that want to drag everyone else down into despair.
Great stuff again Jimmy! Thank you. Please make more like this!!
I have seen in documentaries that Joseph likely worked as a carpenter or builder at a Greco-Roman town called Sepphoris, which was roughly 5 km from Nazareth.
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I love the 6 hour Jesus of Nazareth film by Sir Lew Grade that was released as a miniseries back in the 70’s. Still, it did have a scene where Herod explains to someone that the Jews are strange people and this census that has been declared will entail all of the Jews going back to their tribal homelands causing chaos and destruction of trade and peace for weeks on end. Peter Ustinov played Herod and made the most of the scene as was his wont, but it did leave an impression in the mind of many that this was historically accurate.
Great explanation! I’ve never thought of this before but I’m glad I have an answer now if it ever comes up
Great explanation. Maybe this is a silly question, but was surprised it wasn’t brought up. Why wouldn’t there be room for them anywhere if Joseph was a resident there? Wouldn’t there have been somewhere for them to stay for Mary to give birth?
@claymcdermott718
Ай бұрын
If multiple relatives were all coming home at once, and if they needed somewhere with space to give birth, you could see how they’d run outta room.
@Thomas-bq4ed
Ай бұрын
@@claymcdermott718 and they wouldn’t make room for a child’s birth? Silly
@Thomas-bq4ed
Ай бұрын
It’s likely fictional, this narrative with most of the later gospels is obsessed with either a theological narrative, Jesus being divine, or Jesus fulfilling prophecy. Rather simply explains why the stories include all the details they do, and why such absurd circumstances force Joseph to go places or find shelter elsewhere. Even the idea that we could actually trace Jesus to David, or Abraham with some certainty is pretty wild.
@JediTony81
Ай бұрын
The private revelations given to Ven. Ann Catherine Emmerich gives a full account of the Nativity narrative. Short answer, Joseph was not generally liked by his relations and acquaintances in Bethlehem and while his family home was there, he had been away for many years quietly pursuing his craft. The visions of Joseph's early life make it clear that his brothers were real jerks; somewhat poetically parallel to the situation with the OT Joseph.
@bloodspatteredguitar
Ай бұрын
So the "inn" is really the main room of the home, and Luke says nothing about where Mary gave birth- just that the newborn was laid in the manger. It is a piece of colour to the story that we have spun a great deal of fiction from, but history wise there is no reason to think that Jimmy's interpretation is incompatible with too much extended family extending to the stable. With bed space limited, obviously the newborn gets the manger!
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Thanks for clarifying that, Jimmy. Very helpful and concise!
this is great. Thank you for this.
Always a relief to see a Jimmy Akin video lacking, as that St John Bosco guy puts it, those ‘filthy KZread ads.’
Loved this short one subject video. So enlightening!
Thank you for the edifying commentary. I learned more 🙏
Thanks Jimmy! Awesome explanation 🙏🏻❤️
Jimmy, I love hearing your native accent taking hold more and more. I take it as a sign that you are feeling more rooted in your heritage. Rock on!
I understand the explanation and it’s very logic, makes sense to a point. Question, if that is the case, why the Virgen Mary had to go to a cave to give birth? If they had a second home in Bethlehem, the Virgen Mary had to have the priority occupying the house, assuming there were other relatives there. Wouldn’t the relatives had to use the cave instead of the Virgen Mary? Please, elaborate. I do ask this with humility.
Thank you Jimmy
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I always thought it strange that they travelled to another city for a census. This explanation made sense. Thanks, Jimmy and God bless.
Thanks Jimmy!
Thank you Jimmy!
As a fellow catholic Jimmy I have to say that this theory is possible but not as straightforward and evident as you make it sound. Since the multiple residency theory is not broadly supported as a thing.
I happen to know where my ancestors lived a thousand years ago. Near Killarney, Ireland. My uncle was an accomplished amateur genealogist. I visted there in 2003 and there are still many people with my family name still living in the area.
@tomthx5804
Ай бұрын
That type of geneology is only possible with the modern internet. It was very, very laborious before then. Certainly it was near impossible in biblical times.
Love St Joseph 😇❤️
Many thanks.
You made that same point to Bart Ehrman. Good video
Love this!
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Well explained!
Very nice!
Good explained !! love
Good job, Jimmy!!!!
A good follow up to the Mysteries of Christmas video.
Excellent ❤
Thank you for sharing. I remember you making a similar point in your debate with Dr. Bart Erhman
For the first time ever I noticed a bit of a Southern accent. I wonder if Jimmy went home to Arkansas or wherever he's from And visited family. Anyway, great video. Good stuff as usual!
@Ruudes1483
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He recently moved back to Arkansas, so his natural accent is reemerging. I like it, shows some Southern heritage representation in Catholic apologetics.
@stephencotter538
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@@Ruudes1483 that makes sense. Im from the north east, I love the accent. I hung out in Arkansas for a bit when I was in the Army, great state, Go Razorbacks!
The Irish side of my tree saled out of Cork in 1651 but our ancestry dates to 10th century Galway. I was able to verify the family history I grew up hearing from grandmother, back 240 years in North America aswell as family bibles we have, old letters etc. Im more worried about the people that dont know the names of their grandparents
Thank you.
I will pass this along!
If Joseph had a house in Bethlehem, why didn't he and Mary go there instead of being forced to stay in a stable?
@BobBob-yj6pg
Ай бұрын
He’s covered this in other places. Akin assumes the home was occupied by other family members.
I've always taken the text to mean that everyone must return to the city of their birth or other manner of reckoning family heritage.
GREAT VIDEO
The census coincided with the sabbatical year of jubilee and made it easy to count the Jewish nation, they wouldn’t do it voluntarily for the Roman Empire,and so all Jews must return to the land given to their tribe as it says in Leviticus 25:1 to 18, all debts are cancelled all land returned and indentured Jewish slaves released Jesus was born in jubilee a time of great rejoicing and a holy year Joseph was of the house of David and Bethlehem.
Do we know when the next Jubilee would have occurred? Was Joseph's Bethlehem property leased to, and therefore occupied by another family until then?
The Nazareth property would belong to Joseph and Mary since Mary was an only-child of Joachim and Anne (who "had been barren and advanced in years" at the time of Mary's Birth).
a good lesson in history and geography
So, if Joseph had a residence in Bethlehem, how come there was no room for them at the inn, etc. and they were in the stable?
Good study
I love this intro music.
@JimmyAkin
Ай бұрын
Me, too!
I lived in a basement I'm Denver but my primary residence was in pueblo co for work I've never been wealthy
You are the best!!!!
Would it be a reasonable inference to believe that Joseph's family lived in Bethlehem (parents for instance; maybe he was a second son)? He was working in Galilee when he came to be betrothed, but all the government record would have seen him as someone from Bethlehem. For instance, when I went to graduate school in Michigan, I continued to maintain a residence and vote in Ohio, where my parents lived (despite being in my 30's). I changed my residence when I got married (and I suppose Luke would say, we went to live in Our city, after that). Joseph might even have done such paperwork along with the Census. The Gospel would have started to get quite long, if we had Joseph's long discussions with Mary as to whether it would be worth going back to Bethlehem every few years to maintain the connection in case people 2000 years later might question their Davidic origin. Mary might have said, Jesus is only your stepson anyway, and many of his gentile followers in 2024 will pay more attention to My Davidic origin. Joseph, of course, might have said, they will either believe or not, why not just start calling ourselves Galileans.
For clarity then explain why there was no where for them to stay in Bethlehem if they owned a residence there. Even if occupied by other family members either close or extended. The gospel account to me sounds like they were pretty much strangers to the town.
Couldn't Joseph just have just been born in Bethlehem, and therefore grew yp in Bethlehem. If Joseph was a carpenter, he probably travelled for worn to where consctrution was. And perhaps he was moving around, but was officially enrolled in Bethlehem, and therefore needed to travel to Bethlehem for a census. But he didnt have a house, and possibly no living relations, and therefore needed to find a place to stay.
So…he has a residence in Bethlehem. Why, then, were they looking for a hotel room?
Have you considered that Joseph wasn't necessarily poor but lacked money at the time of Jesus' birth because of the destruction of Sepphoris? Scholars have thought much of Joseph's work would have been done on Sepphoris and after it was destroyed he wouldn't have had the work necessary to buy a lamb.
If Joseph had a place, why didn't they go there to give birth instead of a barncave?
@Ggdivhjkjl
Ай бұрын
The word translated as "inn" refers to the upper part of a dwelling. The lower part is where the animals were kept. There would be more privacy there.
@mortensimonsen1645
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As i understand it from a book «jesus throuh middle eastern eyes» by kenneth bailey - the houses were divided into sections for humans and animals. Mary had to give birth in the animal-section.
there is a high probability that joseph was working in rebuilding sepphoris near nazareth. also when jesus was born in bethlehem on 1 tishri, 3rd of april 3 bc, jdn 1720581.166667. it coincided with the 750th year anniversary of rome, and the year prior to the silver jubilee of augustus. in the res gestae augusti, he writes that people submit a petition for his health to the gods every 5 years. and the missing governor of syria from 4 bc to 1 ad is probably gaius caesar, the grandson of augustus who was being groomed to be the next emperor, but being so young, below the age of 20, the consul quirinius was probably the effective governor of syria.
@Easternromanfan
Ай бұрын
Sepphorus was destroyed after Jesus was born tho
@jperez7893
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@@Easternromanfan that's irrelevant though. although the gospels hint or insinuate that joseph initially wanted to stay in bethlehem or jerusalem, he was forced to go to nazareth because of archelaus.
If Joseph's primary residence was in Bethlehem, WHY were Joseph and Mary looking for accommodation in Bethlehem just before Jesus' birth?
@tafazziReadChannelDescription
Ай бұрын
He shared the house with some of his siblings, probably. The word translated for "inn" just means "room".
@MrMarcodarko
Ай бұрын
exactly. Akin's logic s so silly and pure fiction but watch everyone eat it up as facts
@MrMarcodarko
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@@tafazziReadChannelDescription jimmy isnt a scholar.
@tafazziReadChannelDescription
Ай бұрын
@@MrMarcodarko Where does Jimmy claim they were looking for acconodation?
@MrMarcodarko
Ай бұрын
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription you tell me professor
Luke 25:1 “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
@tonyoliver2750
Ай бұрын
There is no Chapter 25 in Luke and you are quoting the Buddha not Luke.
@bitofwizdomb7266
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@@tonyoliver2750 oh my bad 🤦🏼♂️. It’s Matthew 29:1. It’s right after when matthew wrote about all those dead people rising from their graves and waking through the city for all to see. But no one saw them except … Christians 🤷🏼♂️
@tonyoliver2750
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@@bitofwizdomb7266 What point are you trying to make, quoting the Buddha and attributing the quote to non-existent chapters of the NT as though a Christian wouldn't notice? If you're a Buddhist then you're breaking one of the 5 precepts of Buddhism. But I rather think you're just being silly. Still it's interesting to see that you're drawn to the NT.
@bitofwizdomb7266
Ай бұрын
@@tonyoliver2750 not Buddhist . I’m not religious
Back in the day, people didn't travel far or fly on planes. It would have been easier for the Romans to tell people to go to their home town. Actually. I do know where my realives lived 10000 years ago. My guess is Joseph had land there. People used to have a farm, and a town house. People would walk to the farm, and have a business residence in the town. Maybe his brother was living on that farm and working the land. We know Jude's kids had an olive grove. Theh worked wood and made olive oil.
While no one is under any obligation to believe them, the private revelations given to visionary Ven. Ann Catherine Emmerich support the Luke narrative and provides insight that answers other potential issues. Her visions concerning the Nativity are compiled in a work titled, "The Life of the Virgin Mary".
@MrMarcodarko
Ай бұрын
she was a fraud and n hell
Still no records to believe any sort of census went on during the time Luke indicates. This is what happens when you listen to strong quotes from super conservative scholars instead of taking in the whole of the scholarship with the best credentials.
@sliglusamelius8578
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That's false. Censuses were conducted by the Roman Empire at that time, there is archaeological evidence of that. You're parroting stuff that you heard that is wrong.
@sliglusamelius8578
Ай бұрын
False. Censuses were conducted by the Roman Empire at that time..
@blamtasticful
Ай бұрын
@@sliglusamelius8578 No, censuses were conducted at DIFFERENT times OTHER THAN what Luke reported.
@sliglusamelius8578
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@@blamtasticful That is false. There were censuses under Caesar Augustus..
@sliglusamelius8578
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@@blamtasticful The hilarious part about this is that YOU, who lives 2000 plus years later, wanna tell a historian how things were done at the time that he wrote about them. As if Luke's contemporaries wouldn't know better than you, the arrogance is astounding.
But Luke says there was no room for them in the inn, so Jesus was born in a stable and laid in a manger.
I have implicit faith in the historicity of Luke but it would be good if you explain the statement about there being no roon in the inn
@JimmyAkin
Ай бұрын
That will be another video.
If your ancestor was David yeah you would know it. The skeptics ancestors were likely the dung cleaners to Lord Dungworthy, 5th Earl of Dungsvilles.
Jimmy, it seems like the viewpoint you are arguing against is held not just by skeptics, but the majority of Christians. Not that Luke is a bad historian, but that it was a tax census, Joseph's home was in Nazareth, etc. I'm wondering why I've never heard your explanation from other apologists. Are there other scholars who put forward this interpretation? Thanks!
jimmy - what happened to don bettinelli?
@JimmyAkin
Ай бұрын
Dom's doing just fine. I work with him on SQPN podcasts, but I also do other videos.
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Why did they have no accommodation in Bethlehem? Joseph owned property there, yet were other relatives in that home who would not let Mary and Joseph come in?
@JimmyAkin
Ай бұрын
I'll cover this in another video.
@johnfrancis4401
Ай бұрын
@@JimmyAkin Thanks. I’m looking forward to it. I’ve read stories about the life of Joseph from Maria Cecilia Baij OSB that indicate that Joseph had no property in Bethlehem. So he went to see his relatives who refused him accommodation too. Then he remembered a cave used as a shelter for animals; and this was where they went and where Jesus was born.
@joelperry8939
Ай бұрын
@@JimmyAkin I'm looking forward to it!
Wasn’t Mary also of the house of David?
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If Joseph had a residence in Bethlehem as you say why was Jesus born in a manger instead of Joseph’s residence?
@jamessgian7691
Ай бұрын
I had a family reunion back in my home town. My wife and I traveled back there for it, but we got a hotel instead of staying in my parents home. Not too unusual, especially if the family home was crowded due to the reunion. Same kind of thing.
@tafazziReadChannelDescription
Ай бұрын
Houses at that time had a ground floor "barn" with mangers and animals, while the first floor was used for bedrooms and kitchens.
@ludwigvanbeethoven8164
Ай бұрын
Yeah. But he wasnt born in a barn or home. It was a pathetic cave. @@tafazziReadChannelDescription
@Rogue0572
Ай бұрын
Modern women occasionally give birth on the way to the hospital. If they were traveling for the holidays and returning to their hometown, labor can be so swift that the birth must occur in a car or a less ideal space. Something similar probably occurred in Mary's case. In fact, some of the earliest traditions (see Protoevangelium of James) claim that the moment Mary and Joseph entered the outskirts of Bethlehem, Mary went into labor. Joseph found a cave that was used as a shelter for some farm animals. He ran off to find a midwife. Inns typically exist on the outskirts of towns. If people were returning to their hometown for the census, then the inns would be busting at the seams.
@tafazziReadChannelDescription
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@@Rogue0572 I think this is a bad argument, Bethlehem was a small village, not a huge city. The word mistranslated as "inn" means upper room.
I think there are a lot of assumptions made in this video, and i am a Christian myself.
Makes sense, Joseph being a carpenter, may have been traveling to a job.
@ludwigvanbeethoven8164
Ай бұрын
Traveling job? Was he a ceo of carpentry? Saint Joseph, a model for humilty of poverty had two homes? No. This just shows that Catholic Answers and Jimmy Akon are as good as the pope when they stick to tradition. Its ridiculous that he thinks he's the only person to have thought of this question, nor consult the fathers of the church like Irenaeus of Lyons in the 2nd century.
@jendoe9436
Ай бұрын
Some family friends of ours used to keep up small workers’ houses for the farm seasons. Guys would stay there for a few weeks then head out when the work was done and they got their paychecks. In Japan, it’s not uncommon for the husbands to lodge in another city for work while the wife and kids remain at the family home. Sometimes they have time to visit in person, sometimes it can be up to a year or so before they see each other again.
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Jimmy...still think the Bible is "incidental writings"?
What you did not answer is why some bibles say "enrolled" and some say "tax census"
@JimmyAkin
Ай бұрын
Some translators are trying to explain what they think the text mans more precisely than what the words say. They are collapsing some of the options that are present in the original Greek.
Hmmm my comment and link isnt showing another explanation. I tend to sway to the prophecy in Micah 4:8 and Micah 5:2. To me it elevates the birth of Jesus and it’s meaning. Jesus birth a mile outside Bethlehem, born at the Tower of the Flock where lambs were breed for the temple sacrifice on land of King David instituted for this purpose. The ruins of the Tower of the Flock are still there and shepherds kept watch over the sheep and lambs to be used at the temple. A lamb was placed in a manger to be inspected for defects and swaddled to be carried to Jerusalem least something happen to them. This birth narrative I never heard before and to me provides greater meaning. Mary and Jesus would have been under the protection of the shepherds keep watch and swaddling cloths available for use. Also I would have been the least likely place that Herods soldiers would look for the new born King when the slaughter of innocents was given but scripture states Joseph was warned of this ahead of time.
@charlottelauzon3147
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Although this narrative puts the place of Jesus birth not in the place that is revered today.
@charlottelauzon3147
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Psalm 132:6-8 speaks of Bethlehem Ephrathah (like Micah 5:2) of King David but you can also see a prefigurement of Jesus. The reference of the ark of the covenant we Catholic believe as Marys womb being the ark of the new covenant which carried Jesus. In Micah, Mary is the also daughter Zion to whom would come forth the Messiah.
@charlottelauzon3147
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Another note is some believe that Jesus was born during the Feast of Sukkot or Tabernacles/Booths, one of three major feasts (Passover, Pentecost & Sukkot). We do know Jesus fulfilled Passover and Pentecost. I don’t think it is incidental that events of Jesus occurred on major feasts which God ordained the Hebrew follow and travel to Jerusalem. Is this why Joseph was at Bethlehem on his way to Jerusalem? I also question that would Herod use an ingathering of the Jewish people an opportunity for a census where most of them would be together? I’m still researching this and could be mistaken though.
Can you demonstrate that any god actually exists? No!
love jmmy but his take on this s such bs lol
This isn’t history but do what you will
@tafazziReadChannelDescription
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It objectively is history. It's a histirical consensus Jesus of Nazareth existed, the main sources are the Gospels.
@Thomas-bq4ed
Ай бұрын
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription is this video about whether Jesus existed? Or are you hearing yourself talk?
@zatoichi1
Ай бұрын
@@Thomas-bq4edJesus' existence isn't doubted by any reliable historian or scholarship.
@Thomas-bq4ed
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@@zatoichi1 who said Jesus wasn’t real? This video has nothing to do with Jesus
@zatoichi1
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@@Thomas-bq4edYou were asking if the video was "about whether Jesus existed" which is a question implying "Jesus wasn't real", so the answer is you. You made a suggestion. And to say that Joseph had nothing to do with Jesus is, well just plain dumb.
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@MrMarcodarko
Ай бұрын
sad
Thank you for everything you do Mr. Akin. Hopefully, I can meet you in Wichita Kansas latter this year. I am trying a way to come up with money for it. God bless! You allow me to be able to understand a lot of things better in my faith as a catholic. 🫶🏼