Skeptical Atheist Secular Humanism in Canada.
When I was invited to speak at the Shift to Reason conference in Regina Saskatchewan, other secular Humanist skeptical atheist groups asked me to hop over to a couple cities in Alberta while I was in town. Thanks to the Society of Edmonton Atheists, Center For Inquiry in Calgary, and the Mount Royal University Secular Humanists, the Brainstorm Podcast, and also British Columbia Humanists for collaborating on this tour.
When the entire city of Fort McMurray had to be evacuated, we were not that far south of there, in Edmonton. Each of the groups I met with, in Edmonton, Calgary and Vancouver, all took up collections for relief funds. That's because they're not just skeptical atheists; they're secular humanists too.
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Ad: "Did you know that 60% -- 90% of children lose their faith?" No, but thanks for brightening my mood.
@0x777
8 жыл бұрын
At least you get inspiring and uplifting ads. I usually just get ads from people who speak worse English than me peddling their brand of woo about some god and how he wants to move in with me. I don't need no mooching gods, dammit!
@Peter_Scheen
6 жыл бұрын
Another bad speaking foreigner for you. I am Dutch and when I was young (somewhere in the last century and internet was not even a concept) I thought that I and some family members where the only atheists. Now about 25 percent of the Dutch are atheist. Last time religion played a role in our country was in the 70's when abortion was legalized. Yep, we are winning. Get your education in order and your country will as well.
@snate56
5 жыл бұрын
Peter, you are far from a bad speaking foreigner! You speak it better than quite a lot of my countrymen here in the USA!
@Peter_Scheen
5 жыл бұрын
snate56 Thanks for the compliment. It is all a matter of education. A pity your government cut spending on it again but spent billions on the, already, strongest military force in the world. The fact that there are still millions of your people defending this president says enough. Your country scares me.
@sovietbot6708
4 жыл бұрын
The large range implies They pulled it out of their ass.
Aron is such a fantastic orator. Great video!
@janhald6352
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah he takes it up the arse like a champ too.
@dropbearattack
8 жыл бұрын
Don't fret,no one is going to break your record.
@BlackEpyon
8 жыл бұрын
He's no Christopher Hitchens.... But he'll do. And he's just as heavy a hitter ;)
@janhald6352
8 жыл бұрын
BlackEpyon LOL, you are right, his bullshit hits the fan pretty hard.
@BlackEpyon
8 жыл бұрын
Jan Hald I'm sorry, whose bullshit? Yours?
HAHAHAHAH! The ad that I got when first clicking on this video today was for a book "How To Answer A Jesus Critic: Exposing The 10 Most Common Arguments Against Christianity" Wow. I know the ad itself is only basically going off keywords and tags in order to target where it's shown, but still that is hilarious!!
@BlackEpyon
8 жыл бұрын
I was listening to the audiobook for Bill Nye's "undeniable," and kept getting Scientology and "Gaia" adds.
@deanmoncaster
4 жыл бұрын
You reported as inappropriate I assume.
My late father called the Trinity, "Daddio, Laddio, and the Big Spook".
@0x777
8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the title of the "Bible for Gangstas".
@bunniesWHISPERSasmr
5 жыл бұрын
Ahhhaha..the..big spook..ahahah
@Rob-ys6ot
5 жыл бұрын
Ha!!! Brilliant!!! Cheers.
@warmhandswarmheart
5 жыл бұрын
Big daddy, junior and the spook.
@marshamacmillan
5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome :) Lol!
"I used to be a jedi..." - then you took blaser shot to the knee? ;)
@KristerAndersson-nc8zo
4 жыл бұрын
One has played to much skyrim.
@garygood6804
4 жыл бұрын
I'm an atheist Jedi myself.
@poozer1986
2 жыл бұрын
Love the Skyrim quote
Great talk. We really liked having Aron come to Regina. For our little secular community having some great speakers from the atheist community was a big deal and had a huge impact on the motivation for all of us to keep active in our pursuit of actual church, state separation. It was great meeting you and Lilandra. Thanks for coming.
I was so going to be at your Edmonton show, but then I spent 3 days in the hospital because my fiance's appendix needed removing.
Aron, brilliant as always, and that's a FACT! Thank You! Once I tried to have an intelligent discussion with a religious person about scientific reality. No matter what good evidence or analogy I used there was no way for that person and his groupies would even consider anything else but there false beliefs. I thought about that situation and tried to look for ways to unlock there stubborn dismissals, and came to the reasonable conclusion that their minds were not open but locked shut by the "key of faith".
@kenhoover1639
Жыл бұрын
I have recently experienced the same thing with a lifelong friend. It is too early to tell because he is not responding to me now, but our friendship may have been severely damaged. I guess time will tell.
Aaron has changed my life for the better. It wasn't easy to think the world without a God but after doing my own investigation I come out the other End happier and now convinced that I was only reading books of fantasy and fables and now look to the future with a entirely clear outlook. Thanks to Aaron Ra for clearing my mind of clutter. Aussie Chrisso 🤠😇
Welcome to Canada Aaron we've been waiting for you
When I clicked on this video I got a ad from Scott Sullivan claiming that 60-90% of kids leave Christianity as they go through school. Man that would be awesome if that was true. He claims to have reason based answers that you can use to equip your child against critics of christ. I'm really curious what they are and if they're any different from the usual claptrap I see believers try to use.
Cant beleive I missed this in Regina thanks for coming to Canada.
I'm posting this to my Facebook wall ... Let the fun begin ...
@thisnext6126
8 жыл бұрын
Hahaha man I would love to stir shit up with this on my page to but my wife would kill me😅
Seems like not too many people watched your video right to the end. I don't think I saw one comment about the fire. Pretty powerful stuff. I also greatly enjoyed the speech(s).
Great stuff as always. Nice to see you in Canada.
Your speeches keep getting better Mr. Ra
Aronra was in my city and I missed it!? Noooooo! Hopefully you'll come back for another tour, because this was great.
Awesome Aaron. Coming to Canada . :) If only was close to me. Like London. But I know u can only cover so much ,cant be everywhere. Perhaps someday.
Nice Job Mr. Ra. I always enjoy your pointed retorts and rapid-fire way you deliver the most brilliant truth-burns! You're an asset to the atheist, nonbeliever, secular, humanist, evidence based, reasonable community.
The list of things AronRa admitted to once believing (around the 35:00 mark) cracked me up. Where I never thought that I was a Jedi, his list sounded eerily familiar....if you know what I mean.
one day, skeptical atheist secular humanists will be called, simply, humans
@BramKaandorp
8 жыл бұрын
+jhanks2012 What about those who are not skeptical by that time? Still humans, right?
@jhanks2012
8 жыл бұрын
+Bram Kaandorp idk I was just trying to make the point that hopefully we will have grown past the point where such willful ignorance exists. we are already seeing religions lose their following at incredible rates due to the growing access to knowledge. but I suppose as long as individuals have free will there is always room for some to remain ignorant.
@jhanks2012
8 жыл бұрын
+Bram Kaandorp the fact that one must use descriptors like atheist, skeptical, secular , is what is troubling. all those things should be understood to be the default view.
@jhanks2012
8 жыл бұрын
azmanabdula That's exactly my point. Why should we have to call ourselves atheists when it is now understood that religion is all fairy tales. It should be the other way around, the minority who identify themselves as religious should describe themselves as such.
@sovietbot6708
4 жыл бұрын
The fact the vast majority of people still think Atheists need to prove there's no god while Theists don't need to prove there is one shows that won't happen for a long time
When in conversations, I ask a question followed by "I know you don't have the actual answer, but an opinion and I'm okay with that. But I'd like to hear it" "If God does in fact exist, and man created evil, why would God have created hell in order to punish mankind?" Seems to me that God would have to create evil and free will in order to creare hell in order to punish sinners
If a religious person starts talking about death, I say this - "You are death obsessed but I deliberately choose to be Life Obsessed. Life is good, right?" Or something similar.
Awesome talk, wish I could have attended. Thanks for the video.
OH NO!!! You came to Edmonton and I didn't realize! Please come again soon!
I can't believe I missed this! Had I known I would have made the trip from Lacombe. Hopefully you're in Alberta again soon!
I will say it again, Aron Ra for president!
@sabrinaloizides-merideth9874
8 жыл бұрын
+Donald Schneider I second that!
@allwinds3786
8 жыл бұрын
So true, but wouldn't it be wonderful for the United States to be run by people of reason not faith
@blackice9088
6 жыл бұрын
We want Aron Ra for Prime Minister in Canada!
@sovietbot6708
4 жыл бұрын
I wish, but he's openly Atheist, and that alone will guarantee failure. It'll be awhile before we have an openly Atheist president. Republicans spread rumors about Obama being Muslim as if that would disqualify him, and Christians are even moreso against Atheists.
Damn. I wish I had known you were in Regina. I live close by and would have liked to meet you and hear you speak
Thanks for coming and speaking!
Damn, I wish I l knew you were coming to Edmonton. I would have loved to have attended.
I am an Atheist, of course. I don't do the action described by the verb - "to believe in," because it is logically flawed. . Believing in anything stops you from perceiving that thing accurately. For example, people who believe in The Economy do refuse to consider the flaws in the definition of GDP.
0:42 "..and libertarians"
@ThePharphis
8 жыл бұрын
+kapa1611 and feminists ;) (uh oh controversy)
@ThePharphis
8 жыл бұрын
azmanabdula Depends what kind of libertarian one is, I guess. If one is of the anarcho-capitalist kind, then their ideology is completely unfeasible for humanity
@ThePharphis
8 жыл бұрын
azmanabdula That's the thing. It is entirely ambiguous from just saying "libertarian". I'm merely saying that the word tells people very different things.
@ThePharphis
8 жыл бұрын
azmanabdula Not sure. Probably a lot of the people identifying as libertarian :p
@mikean7074
8 жыл бұрын
+ThePharphis Stefan Molyneux's channel on KZread was the first place I really started to hear about libertarian ideas and he identifies as anarchist. I can kind of understand the moral philosophy he uses to reach this conclusion but he seems to leave out a glaringly obvious fact in his logic: eliminating taxes and minimizing the amount of laws and regulations and any method of enforcing them isn't magically going to cause everyone's inner philanthropist to blossom. He seems to really think that enough people will donate to charities and to volunteer at soup kitchens etc. that everything would be fine if we eliminated welfare and food stamps and Medicare etc., he seems to think there wouldn't be rampant abuse and human rights violations and virtual slavery on the part of corporations if we did away with laws and regulations. It is completely irrational to think a vibrant, successful nation can be maintained with virtually no laws or regulations and a method of enforcing them.
I am really hoping to see you in Washington DC on the Mall this summer. Peace.
@AronRa
8 жыл бұрын
+David Dupoise I'll see you in a couple weeks. :-)
@jsz116
8 жыл бұрын
+AronRa If we want to find you, I assume you'll be somewhere near Ray Comfort?
@daviddupoise6443
8 жыл бұрын
Jacob Zentichko Ha Ha ! Now why would Aron waste a perfectly good afternoon. I feel like I lose brain cells just enduring Ray Comfort's presence on video.
Another beautiful presentation Aron. I really wish you'd come back to Australia and do another tour like the Unholy Trinity you did a while ago. At the time I had no idea it was happening, mainly due to my understanding of what an Atheist was, which I now identify as, in part thanks to people like you who have helped me define what I believe and why I believe it. As a small side note, given the way the US is headed right now, might be safer :)
love this man ...the best !!
I'm a Canadian from near Regina... but I now live in Texas. Nice to see events on the old home front!
@deanmoncaster
4 жыл бұрын
From a guy from where you are
@parkjammer
4 жыл бұрын
@@deanmoncaster Still in the heat... worshipping the great FSM!
@deanmoncaster
4 жыл бұрын
@@parkjammer I prefer beans!!
@parkjammer
4 жыл бұрын
@@deanmoncaster Beans and bacon are OK. Except for my office-mate who would not appreciate what beans do for my environmental contributions... which can't be stopped by a covid-mask!
@deanmoncaster
4 жыл бұрын
@@parkjammer they are good for your heart and are the musical fruit!
It was nice to meet you finally and give you a tour around West Edmonton Mall.
@AronRa
8 жыл бұрын
+Gordon Wolters Did you say you were once a database engineer? Or do I have you confused with someone else?
@GordonWolters
8 жыл бұрын
Not quite a database engineer, but I work a lot with appurtenance inventory database systems and I'm working on helping to develop our new GIS asset management database system, I'm just not the guy that actually does the programming, but I know a few that do.
@AronRa
8 жыл бұрын
+Gordon Wolters I might want your help with my project. I think we discussed this? Email me.
Haha the intro is superb! Haha
you should really do a video about that ad for how to answer a jesus critic the keeps appearing on your videos!
I enjoy listening to Aron's lectures, he and others have really helped to clarify my thoughts after my exit from religion. This was a very good speech and a good review of a lot of his explanations of Genesis. I could have done without the crazy cackling lady in the background, but nothing's perfect I guess.
"what about 30? going 20? 10? sold to the deity" XDDDDDD I laughed my jaw off
I always love the music during the credits but it’s hard to find the track. Shazam says it’s Chris Kriebel but it doesn’t seem to be the same track. Can anybody tell me where to find it?
I wish you come one day to Montreal
amazing as usual
There are a lot of people who think skepticism means denying verified facts. Believing mom groups over peer reviewed studies is not skepticism!
When my life ends in a few days.. I'm glad I won't have to worry about burning in Hell.
@KincadeCeltoSlav
8 жыл бұрын
+Pretty Prudent Is your Life Ending in a few Days?! If so, I hope you had Grand Time in Life, and found Happiness Freedom and Love!
@AronRa
8 жыл бұрын
+Pretty Prudent You're dying in a few days?
@homeycdawg
8 жыл бұрын
+Pretty Prudent Give these people a call, friend. 1-800-273-8255. Just because you won't go to hell doesn't make it a good choice.
@PlanetZoidstar
8 жыл бұрын
My sympathies go out to you and everyone in your life.
@orkodan
8 жыл бұрын
+homeycdawg Can't be suicide as that leads to he'll apparently
Aron, will your travels get you somewhere to South Carolina for a speech?
14:34 "There's a cartoon about this scene with Abraham talking to God where Abraham is talking to a twinkling star and the twinkling star is supposed to be God." What kind of cartoon is this? I would really like to see it!
I do want to thank you and people like you AronRa. You helped set me free from religion.
Wait when and where did this take place? I wouldve loved to attend!
@DeathsHood
8 жыл бұрын
+Nathan Ginzburg This took place April 30th at the DoubleTree Hilton in Regina under the name 'Shift to Reason Conference'. It was pretty awesome. They're looking to do another one next year in Saskatoon. Edit: The first part, anyways.
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
Why did you condemn and mock the concept of subluxation? Isn't a subluxation a partial dislocation of a joint? EDIT: Oh, it seems there's something called "vertebral subluxation," which is an unproven concept in chiropractic. I assume you were referring to that?
This guy is really fun!
One of your very best lectures!YE HA
When giving lectures, you should include time for q&a.
@Gdwmartin
8 жыл бұрын
I'm Canadian so pls forgive me but, what's wrong about libertarians. I don't really understand the ideology
@TelenTerror
8 жыл бұрын
+Grant Martin In the US, the libertarians, in as much as they agree on stuff, have some notion that if we got rid of all government presence and influence except for the military/courts, and axed most laws, that this would suddenly lead to a great peace and prosperity, rather than horsemeat and rat turds in your beef, child labor, deadly working conditions, increased poverty, harsher poverty, and bigoted store owners/officials being able to tell black/women/gay/whoever to get the hell out with the full force of the law. There's variations and exceptions, but libertarians have some notion that if society doesn't have some governmental-enforced Minimal Level Of Human Decency, things would be a lot better.
@Gdwmartin
8 жыл бұрын
+TelenTerror Well then. An all around bad idea then.
@HikaruKatayamma
6 жыл бұрын
LittleBillysWorld Johnngycash
@sovietbot6708
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gdwmartin Libertarians are against subsidized housing, social security, SSI, universal healthcare, and other things to help the poor. They believe poor and disabled people should rely on charities, but they also believe charities have the right to discriminate and help those they want, and most major charities are religious and will discriminate. They also believe education should be privatized, and those who were born into poor families shouldn't have education except Google which is heavily unreliable. I know I'll be accused of strawmanning, but they're against government programs and regulations, even when they're for a good reason. Everything I listed would be a consequence if we took the government out.
Aron, I have noticed a lot of religious advertising tied to your videos. Why is that I wonder?
@Personmr
8 жыл бұрын
+Alvin Braun my conjecture is that youtube has an automated system that looks at the titles and tags of the videos you watch and shows adds based on that. i often notice the scientology adds when i look at critiques of the cult.
Amazing Presentation full of Truth - Driving away the Darkness of Superstition and Credulity! Love it Aron! Keep Doing what you do!
i'm glad u do this in Regina. That place is pretty conservative compared to rest of Canada, so they need to hear this message the most. Good job.
@Yal_Rathol
8 жыл бұрын
he was also in alberta, and we're way more conservative. kinda sad i missed him honestly.
@vestafreyja
5 жыл бұрын
@@Yal_Rathol With the recent election in Alberta we have even become more conservative.
I live 3 hours from Edmonton, so of course Aron had to show up there on a day I had to work. :(
@1955RodHot
8 жыл бұрын
+Y2KNW The good news is you get to see what you missed here.
Awesome!
Aaron - you are so very right :)
Hold on... You were in Calgary? Fuck! I missed it!
@AeolethNionian
8 жыл бұрын
JesusFriedChrist I read that in the description. It's just that I found out he was there from this video.
Hey! I'm in this video! I feelz special!
@byrysh
8 жыл бұрын
+DeathsHood You are special, just like every one else... :P
@DeathsHood
8 жыл бұрын
byrysh It's funny how that works, eh? 'You're all unique, which means you're all the same!' lol.
@kimweaver3323
8 жыл бұрын
And OF COURSE you have free will, the BOSS says you HAVE to have it. Ever wonder who gawd worships? The religiously deluded insist there is no gawd greater than gawd, so I am going out on a limb and say that gawd is godless. No Religious inclinations. You know, an ATHEIST!
@deanmoncaster
4 жыл бұрын
@@byrysh you meant, you are unique just like everyone else.
"Humanist" is used very derogatively in every church I attended growing up and in my young adulthood. At least one - in a lesson denouncing socialism as "a humanist belief system" - outright said that humanism is bad and thus socialism is bad because it makes people focus on the problems of this life and not on reaching the next.
Wait, was that at 7:38 a southpark joke ?
The only thing I do not like about his videos is the loud music at the end. Yeah, I know it is a personal preference, so others may feel different about it, but for me, that music "grinds my gears".
I’ve always questioned the whole “curse” of snakes. I think slithering in the grass makes them among the most dangerous animals, especially with tall grass.
22:02 "There is a later passage that says: 'How can you trust the bible because lying prophets wrote it and they've made it into a lie?'" Where in the bible does it say this? I would REALLY like to know!
See you at the reason rally. This time I might actually say hi to you instead opting to not bother you.
The Kirk Cameron philosophy - circumvent the intellect. He's been doing a good job of it.
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
8 жыл бұрын
+David Smith Kirk can't circumvent something that he doesn't have.
@DavidSmith-xs3or
8 жыл бұрын
That's just it . Kirk has avoided intellect since GrowingPains.
@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
8 жыл бұрын
David Smith He was hired because he was cute and could speak his lines, he wasn't hired because he was intelligent. He's just another blond bimbo.
@DavidSmith-xs3or
8 жыл бұрын
+Old Man from Scene Twenty Four Yes, obviously. He was a teen idol who was intelligent enough to read lines. That's it. Then he went off the wagon of sanity. The rest speaks for itself.
Shame about the sound switching mikes and thus changing volume.
Yes. Thank you mr. ra
7:40 Cartman reference?
AND AGAIN...are Christians funding AronRa or are they just advertising on his channel?
@BeowulfandCoffee
8 жыл бұрын
Right? I got the " answering a jesus critic" ad. Thinking about getting it and going at it with a red pen.
@sailure1
8 жыл бұрын
WE ALL NEED TO CHIP IN AND HAVE ARON MAKE A VID ON IT...LOL
Well done.
um the commercial for this video was a book that defended Christianity so irony
Fantastic🤘👌🤘
So sad I couldn't come. )-:
good video...
Aron Ra for 2020!
Aron is awesome 👍🏼
People with lesser minds require certainty. A greater mind can retain knowledge that has degrees of certainty/uncertainty attached to each piece of knowledge. . . . I don't know whether Aliens or Sasquatches exist. Very often, the best answer is "I don't know."
7:42 Eric cartman reference
@XINGPV
4 жыл бұрын
which onee?
I always thought the story of the dirt man and the rib woman was a parable to explain why we humans are different from the other animals.
how do you negotiate with a perfect being? every choice they make is perfect, there IS NO BETTER OPTION. so how do you negotiate with a perfect being?
I wonder if anyone in the Bible has ever said “go home, o lord on high, thou art drunk”
Aron Ra is the epitome of what a National Treasure is.
Aron is one of the greatest men alive today.
I already knew the Bible was full of nonsense and contradictions (because I actually read it once) but I always learn something new from AronRa. Since I was 13 years old I have been unable to understand how anyone can read the Bible and not immediately see that it is pure mythology. I guess it takes either a complete lack of effort (pure lazy blindness) or an incredible amount of effort (apologetics and interpretation) to believe in a bunch of impossible fairy-tales.
@KillerNetDog
8 жыл бұрын
+1955RodHot I think it is hard for some people to let go of the idea they will live forever and accept that death is the end.. with no afterlife. That is a pretty scary thing for a lot of folks who have been raised since birth to believe they will never really die. That fear can drive a lot of desperate beliefs.
@snate56
5 жыл бұрын
That's because, you, at 13, had probably already read mythology, fairy tales, science fiction, etc. Then you pick up the bible and can see the similarities. Someone born into a strict religious family is shielded from that and fed the bible before they are allowed to see what's outside.
"The way that it's supposed to be read: You can either eat of the fruit of the tree of eternal life and live in child-like innocence forever or you can eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and you will become aware. Your eyes will be open. You'll grow up." I thought it was an etiological myth attempting to explain why crops grow, why pregnancy hurts, and why snakes have no legs? How can this story be a metaphorical parable and a literal etiological myth, at the same time?
sad no one laughed when he said "and they don't respect your authoritah" at 7:39 I get it's important speech, but no one? I'm mostly joking ofc, as I love this man and I'm glad that the speech helped quite a bit from what I've been reading.
Aron speaks about knowledge and facts. The religious have neither to back up anything in their holy books.
I never heard of these misrepresentations of the Bible. Maybe they are specific to American Christians?
27:45 so the bible is a flat disk?
great hair aron
Funny how the religion that invented circumcision is also says... Deuteronomy 23:1 "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD." ... and they don't see this as a contradiction.
@61btod
8 жыл бұрын
+Slevin Klevra It also makes one wonder: If God is so adamant that we cut off our foreskins, why would he create us with foreskins in the first place?
@DJ8017
8 жыл бұрын
That can easily be explained by Christians saying "god wanted us to obey him and to be mark as his chosen people"... BUT, then they would have to explain 1 Samuel 18:27 about how "David took his men with him and went out and killed two hundred Philistines and brought back their foreskins. They counted out the full number to the king so that David might become the king's son in law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal to David to be his wife." So, are the Philistines David killed now marked as "god's chosen people"? What kinda sick bastard goes around killing men, then cutting the ends of their dicks off all day? What kinda sick dick measuring bastard god would require on the judgement seat of Christ, to have men whip their dicks out? The story is so beyond ridiculous its hilarious. You want to really piss off door to door evangelists, read this story to them. I've deconverted missionaries by pointing this out. You should have seen the red faces of their wives when I read them what their own "holy book" says. They just can't handle the dick measuring. Hahahaha
18:55 "Is God praying to himself whem he's by himself?" Yes. (Matthew 14:23)
The serpent isn't Satan though. If you read the Bible he's never actually referred as such in Genesis. In fact the whole concept of Satan isn't really well defined in the Old Testament. "satan" is just a Hebrew word meaning "adversary", so it's not even really clear whether it's always referring to the same reoccurring character. Like is the "satan" of Job even a "Lord of Lies" or is he just some random guy who questions Job's faith? Really there's no blatant contradiction between Genesis and Job if you just read them as what they are. When you factor in the New Testament and the later doctrine like God's omniscience/omnipotence, Satan (which by himself contradicts omnipotence), etc. then yeah it becomes a mess.
@infinitysalinity7981
6 жыл бұрын
Kljunas The bible didn't say that the snake was satan but Americans say so anyway. That's what Aron was addressing.
can you imagine Aron buying a car at a used car lot. the ultimate skeptic meets car dealer who lies for a living.
@WeKnowTheTruth2012
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah im a skeptic and got a good ass prices paid way lower from invoice
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