Just a heads up the Vampire Coast campaign guide is coming next Friday. I have another project I have to work on this week that I can't talk about just yet but after that's out of the way we'll be back to the Warhammer 3 Guides!

@nemeasium6346

Жыл бұрын

Vampire Coast guide afterwards, cause after Skaven that would be my two favorite factions done also love your videos, you're able to just chug though so much dense information so quickly and easily, really helps my ADHD brain stay engaged, Thanks :D

@christiandauz3742

Жыл бұрын

Only three words Shoot, Smash, Kill!

One suggestion I have when playing as skaven is to consider fielding an entire army of skaven slave spears and slingers under a grey seer lord early game. Once you get the research "Numbers beyond counting" you can start making even more because the armies will cost you less than 1k each. The slave armies are extremely useful distractions in campaign and battle. Simply put your main army in ambush stance in front of your slave army to bait in ai armies. Make sure they are within reinforcing range as early ambush rates aren't guaranteed (they will be eventually). The reason I say to put it under a grey seer lord is because at lvl 13(give or take) grey seer's get an ability that grants extra relations with all skaven. I find that it helps to get confederations as I don't need to shovel as many gifts at them. If you truly want to play as the skaven, then never fight fairly. Why fight an army 1 for 1 when you can fight them 2 on 1? Why initiate combat when you can ambush them instead? Be a conniving coward. Only then can we take the overworld for the great horned rat yes-yes.

@sev1120

Жыл бұрын

Plus, grey seers are devastatingly powerful casters. Because skavenslaves are weak and expendable, the AI will underestimate the player

@pjorkan

5 ай бұрын

Ikit has biggest brain off all rats!

@liam7930

3 ай бұрын

You dirty little rat. I love it! 😂 I'll be doing this in my next campaign

The Skaven have many playstyles, basically as many as their lords because all their lords/heroes fit a different archetype, for example Queek Stormvermin, Ikit weapons teams etc. And it's really cool to style their armies accordingly.

@samfire3067

11 ай бұрын

Weapons teams: everyone IS equaly... Equaly worthless.

@ivan-iw1bv

9 ай бұрын

Nah,stormvermin even in queeks army is still trash, just cheese the fuck out the game when playing skaven they are rats after all( for the horned rat yes yes)

@abcdc197

3 ай бұрын

As someone who only ever plays Legendary/VeryHard since first game there's only 3 ways to play Skaven and everything else is suboptimal. 1. Weapons team army. 2. Gutter Runners with Poison spam 3. Brood Horror Doomstack. Melee units of any kind don't work for Skaven too low leadership only useful as a meat shield but if you need that you just bring 4 Plague Priests to spam summons or even Grey Seer of Plague that's your melee units. If you wanna play melee play Warriors of Chaos or Skarbrand. They are all melee and do it well. In Warhammer some factions are just not built to be any good in melee. I personally don't auto resolve decisive wins against Empire in my chaos campaign as i love watching Chaos Warriors or Chosen smash those Empire Greatswords AI loves to recruit. Like even with melee cheats they get they still lose so hard it's ridiculous.

@NeptuniumNecromancy

2 ай бұрын

@@abcdc197too be fair legendary/very hard is a very warped version of the game since the changes nerf melee units extra hard to begin with

@abcdc197

2 ай бұрын

@NeptuniumNecromancy Yes but playing anything else battles are too easy. Factions that are supposed to be strong in melee like chaos work just fine on legendary/very hard. Had blast with Skarbrand playing like that. Skaven, High Elves, Empire are not supposed to be played as melee so there's no point lowering difficulty even on normal battle difficulty their melee units underperform. I tried normal difficulty but gets boring pretty quickly as with ranged factions you gravitate towards heavy ranged armies no matter what as those are usually the best units in those factions anyway and if you play on normal game gets way too easy. With Chaos doesn't matter Chaos Warriors, Chosen, Daemons will cut down anything no problem and if you're fighting other Chaos factions just use strategy and you will win with barely any losses. Bit of cheese, messing with AI along the way sure but there's fun in that too. Nothing like trying "unwinnable" battle 10 times until you figure out a way not only to win it but make it decisive or heroic victory too.

Ikit Claw:"How do you stop a 12 foot tall Ogre thing from ripping you a new beehive? The answer? Use a gun-gun, And if that don't work use more gun-gun."

@AdamJones-tu9lx

3 ай бұрын

i understood that reference

One thing that CA got right was the Skaven. Most of the units aren't that good alone but in combined arms they're deadly. Plague Monks to take the hit to the fact with some sort of Weeping Blade unit to hit them in the back and watch armored units melt away. A very good video.

@JakeBaldwin1

Жыл бұрын

I personally like how easy it is to build thematic armies.

Skaven Slave slingers have actual done alot of good work, for me, in old small settlement defence battles

@Lehanna

Жыл бұрын

They do pretty shit damage but it still adds up quickly They'll at least do much more damage than their own gold cost.

@joniviheraho621

3 ай бұрын

Yeah they do good damage for the cost

Wolf Rats are the only flanking unit you need. Why CA thought dogs needed armor piercing is beyond me lol

@kiingtutt8019

Жыл бұрын

@@xBlackInstinct Because the majority plays solo..it's like that in all Total War games..you must be new lmao

A note about the doombringers: Their increased HP is due to a 50% higher model count compared to other warpfire throwers (48 compared to 32), so their damage output is a good deal higher thsn other warpfire throwers units

For those who don’t know, Gorych isn’t a Skaven. He is a Chaos Champion who pissed off Archaon so much that Archaon sold him to Throt. Throt then experimented in trying to do mind transference, transferring Gorych’s mind into that of a mutant rat ogre.

It might be a small issue, but charge reflection is different to charge defence. You often say reflection when the ability is defence. Reflection applies the enemy charge bonus back onto the charger, while defence negates it. Edit: I'm loving the content

My usual Skaven endgame army: Plague Lord + 3x Plague Priests = frontline (with summons) 2x Engineer = range, ammo, etc. for the weapons teams 2x Rattling Gun 4x Jezzails 4x Mortars 4x Catapult And menace from below summons to stop potential flankers. Mortars, Jezzails and Catapults usually wipe out almost anything on their own so most of the time the Rattling Guns hardly get any shots off, that's why I use only 2 nowadays even though they are of course amazing.

@J_MARAu

Жыл бұрын

Hey man what lord do you use?

@tomayris3671

11 ай бұрын

you want couple poison GR slingers for the 15% speed though and all the rest of the poison goodness :D

Would love to see some multiplayer battle army strategies / builds for skaven. KZread is sorely lacking videos on this

Thanks for this video. I was on the struggle bus for using Skaven and this helped a good amount.

Great video! Although, I think you meant Spells of Ruin at 33:12 for the Warlock Master. Love these guides. Been watching them all!

Yes-YEEEES! Once thing thta would also be cool would be to compare the armies from 2 to 3

I've never been into Total War games nor Warhammer games but my buddy bought me TWW3 game so I figured I'd give it an honest try and I have to say at the age of 31, I am hooked! Both on the Warhammer lore and the TWW3 game. I just wanted to leave a comment saying thank you for all your guides, they have helped me understand every faction from their armies to how the faction/Legendary Lords work themselves and how they effect each campaign. I don't know how I could've gotten seriously into TWW3 without your videos. Thank you so much!

I started and quit 4 different campaigns the day that IE released; none of them were Ickit Claw, and that was the problem.

without the dlcs you have no mortars, ratlings or jezzails and your only monsters are normal rat ogres and hellpit abomination skaven suffer the most from not owning the dlcs

@Raoul9753

7 ай бұрын

True, but at least they are kind of interesting to play. The DLC units are so overpowered, it feels like dropping the difficulty by 2 levels.

@dietdogcali

3 ай бұрын

​@@Raoul9753 skaven still have some op monsters not release as dlc 😅 such as monster carry gatling gun 😂

Bless you for making these sir

As usual, thank you for the video good sir

In the future i would love to see a High Queen Khalida campaign guide or drycha.. Very fun campaigns!

"Ikit has biggest brain off all rats" -Ikit Claw.

I hope you do all the races for campaign and battles,i know it might take alot of time but it will be worth it

Man tgus just reminded me just how neat Skaven are. Ikit or throt are def getting added to my growing pile of IE campaigns.

All hail Horned Rat!

I find clan molder hammer and Anvil with with half your arms fodder and hold monsters the other half a mix of wolfrats group up the wolf rats and focus down single targets a a time, it breaks most things instantly and shreds broken units in seconds.

Pound for pound, stormvermin are the best heavy infantry unit in the game, IMO. They have decent statline, cheap for a tier iii unit, and have 160 unit size; where most factions have unit size 100 or 120.

It's all about them rattling guns and catapults. To me that's the funnest way to dispatch these demonic csuckers. Great vid

Skaven are my one of my favorites in game because they use swarm tactics. Nothing is more terrifying than ravenous hordes of verminous rat men.

@samuelshirley369

Жыл бұрын

I never played Warhammer and when III came out, my friend convinced me to try it out. Got me the first and second game to get more factions when Immortal Empire came out. Now... I asked what I should play as I looked through, now as a veteran, he started listing alot.... like... it was overwhelming. But as I looked at the list, I saw the Skaven and got curious. "Hey bud... What about the Ska--" "SKAVEN?! YOU WANT TO PLAY THEM?!" I died with how much he cringed at the thought. He went on to explain how they were one of the weakest races to play. I was sold, I started playing Skaven that DAY and still play them. My favorite lord is Ikit Claw

@thegametroll6264

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelshirley369 my favorite lord has to be thrott the unclean because clan moulder focuses on war beasts and I love skaven war beasts. Rat ogres at the top of the pack. I wouldn't know why your friend would say that skaven are one of the weakest to play with but they are one of the funnest to play with. IZ A GREEBSKINS PLAYA MESELF I IZ.

@samuelshirley369

Жыл бұрын

@@thegametroll6264 I think what it is, was that the Skaven have a unique play style that is easy for some and challenging for others. I loved them so I put in the time and effort to learn their styles. Throt the Unclean is badass and a pretty good one to go for if you want monsters upon monsters. Queek is another amazing choice I find hard to pass up as he literally succeeds where others fail.... brotherhood.

@spartacus6256

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelshirley369 Weakest??? Bruh they’re among the strongest idk what you’re friend was thinking but yea the Skaven are so incredibly fun to play with. Many different possible army comps with some of the lords having among the best faction mechanics in the game.

@samuelshirley369

Жыл бұрын

@@spartacus6256 That's what I thought as well when I started playing them. I was strong throughout the games I played, didn't have much issue with food and overall a menace. But what I think it was is because my friend didn't enjoy the Skaven as I did and I know that some will like one faction over the other. He always said how he had a tough time with the whole process, always running empty on food.

19:58 As a Skaven player, I'm ALWAYS prepared to commit warcrimes on my own troops. That's the whole reason I got into Total Warhammer.

I use the Warlock engineer hero to buff my artillery and weapons teams. That's it. I keep them out of combat unless absolutely necessary. If it's necessary, I've got worse problems than keeping my teams firing at peak efficiency.

eshin triads are more usefull than u think the flanking part allows u to trap monsters who are in the midst of front lines especiialy if its meant to be cycle charging an it baits fast enemies in going for your range units

I like the warlock master's designs they look like scientists who love boxing lol also the master assassin looks awesome as well as the regular infantry variety (gutter runner, assassin, etc)...

Great video

I love your guides! ❤️ A real Colonel 😉

I imagine that the eshin triads are used to give Calvary a false sense of security, with there stalk ability, they can intercept a charge before they're even spotted, and by the time they notice and try to reposition, Your missile units will have already been given time to reposition to open fire on them, and if they continue the charge and run into them, then even better

The Sun never sets on the Rat Empire!!!

1:08 - Queek Headtaker 1:40 - Lord Skrolk 2:20 - Ikit Claw 3:10 - Tretch Craventail 3:47 - Deathmaster snikch 4:32 - throt the unclean 5:14 Warlord 5:48 - Gray Seer (Plague) 6:56 - Master assassin 7:33 - Ghoritch 8:15 assassin 8:43 Plague priest 9:20 - Warlock engineer

I wish you could truly set it up so your ranged units didn't care about friendly fire. Would love to shoot thru the skavenslaves

@konigstiger8518

Жыл бұрын

you used to be able to, thought you still could.

Vampire coast next, wooooh

I dont know, i have the opinion that having any kind of infantry in a late game Skaven army is shoting yourself in the foot. All skaven infrantry is useless and the only thing they achieve is blocking your guns from shooting. I like using the good old hero front line. You can go plague priest but I also like going with some chieftains and packmasters on broodhorrors since the magic changes in wh3. I bet this army comp suggested here has a bad time shooting in most battles.

@yagurtata6072

Жыл бұрын

This kind of armies are one of the best, more with the ability of plaguemonks to summon rats, but I maybe be hate for this but i like how storvermin look, and i like to have some of then even in the most destructive ratlings comps, and sometimes it help to keepthem in the back as a short of guardians to your range damage dealer, they even have safe me from some calvary or flanking units I didnt see. And sometimes I like tematical armies becouse Im a nerd

@Optimusprime240

4 ай бұрын

You my friend have clearly not experienced the magic of a checkerboard infantry screen! Leave gaps in your front line with gunners behind, let the enemy squares gets hung up on the stormvermin on either side, and watch them get chewed up while your infantry hold them there! Throw in a couple cannons/catapults to force the enemy to charge you.

Great video. Dark Elf WH3 guide?

I am fairly new to warhammer 3 and after watching a fair amount of the basic guide videos, I still have a question: Are the final army comps for campaign or multiplayer? Dont some lords benefit more from X type of troops? Or are the comps refering to a second+ army a player might aquire later on? Thanks in advance :)

@Darkstreets56

Жыл бұрын

yes take into account your leaders strengths when they gain buffs for using a specific unit, you really dont need to follow the comps in this guide but for the tier one you need warpfire throwers badly or you will lose a lot this is my best faction in the game and have a lot of hours in them, the tier 2 and 3 comps are kinda optional you can switch out multiple things depending on who your fighting and what you like to use.

@vascoalves00

Жыл бұрын

@@Darkstreets56 thank you :) I will keep that in mind when retrying the skaven

@swaggboiii9528

Жыл бұрын

The great thing about Skaven is that you can pick and choose with army comps. Just get a tanky frontline and match it with whatever source of damage you like most. Same goes for legendary lords. pick what aspect sounds coolest and play that one.

@zackrodriguez6653

Жыл бұрын

Playing an Ikit Claw as my first IE campaign on Warhammer 3. Try: 5 rattling guns / 5 warplock jezzails / 3 mortars / 4 catapults / warplock master + warplock engineer + plague priest. It's free real estate.

The skaven I best can describe as being the empire minus decent cavalry and decent early end range units. But they compensate for weapon teams being high end and monsters just as high end. Now sure the skaven have slingers but the slingers you are recruiting, specifically slinger slaves, they are just your slaves with swords, that can throw a rock, just expect them to slight soften the enemy. Another thing to remember, your engineers can spread underempire which do varying things. Remember that your rat hounds are speedy and Armor piercing, which should prioritizing harassing armored units that are routing. Also Skaven are very leadership sensitive like the empire, so be sure their lord stays alive.... If you are playing as skaven. (when I say lord sensitive, I am implying for living creatures as undeads are the main rule of 'keep your lord alive at all cost', though it should be obvious.)

@Dupergirl1

10 ай бұрын

Yoo sorry to hijack your comment, but do you know if they changed (nerfed) Ikit claw in therms of units? Online it says I should be able to produce mortars, but ingame I can't even with the arsenal built

@joniviheraho621

2 ай бұрын

​@@Dupergirl1like poison wind mortars if yes do you have the dlc if you mean empire mortars you cant and never could

imo ikit claw is still the best campaign lord not only because his faction is so good but also because the ai tends to bunch up around him letting his spells and his weapons teams deal absolutely massive damage while he can still be fine hp wise because of massive armour and second wind serum (if that's not nerfed)

@akaroth7542

Жыл бұрын

I fell in love with the warpstone nukes

That late game army comp can be improved a lot. Stormvermin are more of a liability because Skaven are very prone to friendly fire. They're also not that tanky and they have low leadership so they won't be holding the line for very long. Hellpit abominations are not that great either as they're slow, they lack armour, they don't do a ton of damage, and they're a huge target for missile infantry. They're also too expensive. Their deaths also summon skaven slaves that won't really hold the line for much longer as well. They're just not that good. The doomwheels are fine but they're also too expensive and squishy to get a ton of use out of them. The brood horrors are also fine but they're better in a group than being alone. Poison Wind mortars are good but you don't need more than one. I'd use this comp for Skaven: Plague Sorcerer Lord, 3 or 4 Plague Priests for vermintides, 2 or 3 Chieftans for their wolf rat summons and brood horror mounts, 1 poison wind mortar (avalanche in main army), 4 Rattling Guns, 4 Warplock Jezzails, and 4 Plague Claw Catapults. The heroes and lord will be the front line and summon wave after wave after wave of trash to bog down the enemies. Also, since they're small-medium single entities, they're less likely to get hit than Stormvermin or Hellpit abominations. The trash that they summon will also take friendly fire but it doesn't matter as they're summons and they're doing their job. For Thrott, I'd just use Rat Ogres and Brood Horrors as he buffs them to oblivion. For Sniktch's army, I'd use assassin spam for the memes but it's also pretty strong.

@user-br7fo7ky8e

Жыл бұрын

I respectfully disagree. The offered late game stack is kinda default and helped me greatly against high movility and tough cav and monsters aka HE or Bretonnia or WE. The all range is for stunties empire cathay etc

@user-br7fo7ky8e

Жыл бұрын

Also having a jack of all trades stack late game is more profitable strategic wise. Your losses are expected taken and replenished quite fast while a gunline heroes army is high risk high reward and when caught off guard will lose with more consequences than late game attrittion stack as I found out during my ongoing skryre campaign

I don't think Clanrats are worth it for anyone except Queek. They're more than 4x as expensive as skavenslaves, yet don't last 4x as long. They're just bad. Their stats are barely an improvement. Skavenslaves are so cheap that it is less expensive to destroy damaged units and replace them than wait for them to heal.

I have way diffrent army comps that perform the same or even better. But what ever works

Who need flanking units when you can just hug their frontline with your twice as wider frontline

@mcsmash4905

Жыл бұрын

fr tho people are too scared not to flank , you dont even need to flank , just keep throwing trash at the enemy lines and eventualy they will be so tired and depleted that proper skaven warriors will more or less have a walk in the park

Wait, do you need just the 3 base games, or also all dlc, to play immortal empires?

@joniviheraho621

2 ай бұрын

Not anymore

@taylorblom4323

2 ай бұрын

You only need TW:W3

so would a clan mors playthrough be the best situation for having a high ammount of stormvermin?

@joniviheraho621

2 ай бұрын

Yes

Ratling in front, globadier behind. Next to that, 1 warpfire thrower with a globadier behind....

"get a good angle or prepare to commit some serious war crimes to your troops" LMAO

Whatever army is best in auto resolve. Doom wheels and single entities like mutant rat ogres would die forcing you to play a battle that you should’ve won decisively is super obnoxious. Hopefully that’s changed.

The Skaven have a pretty good way to take out backlines imo... Warplock Jezzails! If that doesn't work, you can always summon clanrats to beat those poor archers asses...

It's funny... just started playing skaven with Ikit and the shitty leadership has actually saved me units while still winning battles as they run away whenever the wind blows.

Can’t wait till you go over the greenskins I want to do immortal empires campaign there one of the only factions I don’t have time with so it would be fun to learn them with a updated guide

"or prepared to commit some serious war crimes against your own troops" If you are not prepared to do that, you shouldn't be playing skaven!

@mcsmash4905

Жыл бұрын

tbh agreed if you dont consider any of your units cannon fodder then just dont play skaven lol , bury them in corpses it might take a while but eventualy the numbers will start to show

is there any reason I can't recruit wolfrats?

@talyaileonardo3844

10 ай бұрын

U don't have the dlc

how to play skaven the proper way? just throw trash at the enemy lines in waves and once the enemy is too tired and depleted to fight for much longer throw in your proper units or elites and voilla you have mastered the skaven way of war

Need more Thanquol.

I don’t think it’s bloated, most units are useful

Overall nice guide but I think you missed on a few things worth mentioning: 3:10 - The footage shows a funny bug which made it to the "beta" launch of Immortal Empires, where Tretch has the Kislev racial passive which makes him unbreakable if he drops to 0 leadership for a short period of time. 12:20 - I think you could've mentioned that Clanrats (any variety) are a straight upgrade to Skavenslaves in every single way. They cost twice as much upkeep (a measly base 75 gold), but you also get nearly twice the stats and they get more buffs from the tech tree as well. 20:10 - Skaven are unique in that they're the only faction that can inflict status effects on their own units with ranged attacks, which is especially important to mention when it comes to the Poisoned Wind Globadiers. I find that they're an awful unit since they have nothing going for them: Low range, low missile strength & because its capable of inflicting its status effect on your own units you don't want to use their high arc throws either. Since it will make your front line rout even faster. I like the idea of Skaven embracing friendly fire but its just so horribly balanced that players really should be avoiding it. And also a couple of corrections: 22:17 - I don't know if you have insider information but this unit has never had a contact effect, nor has any blog post ever indicated that it might get one. Further it doesn't do anti-infantry (ranged) damage, I assume you wrote this because of the unit card saying "anti-infantry" but this is essentially just CA lying to us. You do the same later with Ratlinguns.

@user-br7fo7ky8e

Жыл бұрын

I kinda agree to disagree here on skaven globadiers, if they spend all of their ammo in one battle the dps numbers are gonna be sweet and worth all the collarel dmg to your own troops. The enemy will almost always lose more worthy shit than you since you also rout and get back quicker in battles. We Have Reserves to extreme with the skaven grenadieren

@Khalkara

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-br7fo7ky8e My point was that globadiers aren't bad but are made to look bad compared to bombadiers, who do way more DPS and lack the contact effect that can kill/rout your own units faster.

What is this word "meele" I have never seen enemies survive long enough to attempt killing my stormvermin

What about death master snitch

What about warp lightning cannons?

@juselara02

Жыл бұрын

Really good artillery but kind of redundant in my opinion. I used to have 2 in my army but jezzailz already have you covered in the anti large/Anti lord department and you then realize that plageclaw catapults, even labelled as anti infantry are so damn good that in reality they are anti everything. Additionally, warp lightning cannons are known for often have line of sight issues (which exacerbated in wh3)

Big problem in this game is u have 20 UNITS ROSTER per lord! If units could be divided in lesser unit cards, e.g: u could place 4 skaven slaves cards into 1, that would be smart and awesome. But to make game work right u need to play games as developer.

how on earth do little rats have better ranged than Dwarves,,,,

How can I make casters stay on the back, and not go crazy psychopath going melee every second they want without my command? Cause it keeps happening

@shadow_king12344

Жыл бұрын

Weird. That shouldn’t happen

@TheMaxCloud

Жыл бұрын

@@shadow_king12344 Its crazy, they constantly go Barbarian mode even if they are behind a good Frontline, also Archers focus the shit out of Spellcasters X-x

@shadow_king12344

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMaxCloud what faction btw?

@TheMaxCloud

Жыл бұрын

@@shadow_king12344 This happened.... With Vampire Counts using the Gandalf Guy (cant remember his name), Skaven with any Mage also Beastmen with any mage and Chaos Warriors, they just go Barbaric. The only time I manage them to not lose control is to make them so far away they dont have anything near them to attack, but If I move them to cast a spell and forget about them, they just go wild Melee charghing alone into the fight without me telling them anything.

@shadow_king12344

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMaxCloud maybe try digging in the options? Theres also an auto melee button i believe so turn that off

Rat + Gun. Problem solved

Playing Vampire Counts, I have to say, skavenslaves, both as recruited units and summons, are vastly inferior to Zombies. Zombies can actually kill things.

@Optimusprime240

4 ай бұрын

To be fair they're not FOR killing, they're distractions and meat shields. Zombies are undead monsters who have no concept of self preservation, so they stay and get kills. Slaves are for one thing only in my Skaven maining armies: bunching up a cluster of enemies long enough to drop a nuke, or to shell with my artillery. If/when they die, they're dirt cheap to replace! Zombies are too slow for that

I just realized you've been saying "Charge Defense" not "Chad Deflect" in your previous guides... lmao

I feel like each skavin clan should not get units from other clans regularly. Only way should be through outposts and requesting armies. This simplify there rosters and make them all feel more unique

I wish you would differentiate normal units from DLC units, and talk about what dlc you need to get all the units

Aaaaah the skavenslaves :) the only frontline whose only use is the get shred by rattling gunners hahahaha Edit : you really made me laugh when saying "storvermin with halberd are so goddamn taugh!" Because they always lose a fight against a unit of their tier hahaha.

To be fair, without the DLCs, the Skaven experience is stale, lacking, and most players probably won't have a good time and barely have a semblance of a good Skaven play. Most of their iconic and cost-efficient units are DLC locked. As well as the fact that Ikit, Throt, and Snikch are Skavens strongest lords regardless of their campaign mechanics, purely based on their faction buffs and bonuses and what they provide for their own army, the rest falls off. I would like to commend Skaven for having that "balanced" army composition, but honestly, you're just making your campaign harder than you need to be. When you're going down the unit buff talent line for a lord, arguably, you're only going to choose 2 sets of buffs to get the most of it, so then, what about the rest? We already established that Skaven units on their own are pretty weak, and it's not like you're going to fill every point by buffing your units and then ignoring magic, combat, unique skills, and campaign skills. Infantry, in general, isn't game-breaking, and there are only a few compositions out there that justify a good infantry, ie Khorne, blade singer doom stack for the wood elves, Setra's tomb guard stack. A Tier 5 infantry can be shot down from afar by a Tier 2-3, heck tier 1 Elven archer and I can't get behind storm vermins or any of the Skaven infantry line or put them in my army, let alone a handful of them. Not only does the game consider storm vermins high value, and therefore losing them over the course of the battle lowers your army value, but they are also up there in terms of price. I strongly suggest avoiding getting Skaven infantry and going heavy on their weapon stack and being supported by Skaven's strong heroes, they have S-tier heroes, but also F-tier with the Eshin sorcerer, don't ever get that trash hero. Anyways, if you need someone to hold the line for your weapons team, just get a few plague priests, and their summoned rats are better line holders, and they dun dun dun, MAGIC. They will do a better job at providing that frontline you need than Skaven infantry will. Sure you need chafe units early game, but late game, you're better off with a leveled-up hero than a storm vermin.

the Eshin triads get buff from the Eshin lords so they can be good and the plague lords can buff them too.