Site of the First Catholic Mass in the Philippines: Limasawa or Masao?
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For this discussion video, we will be talking about one of the most controversial topic in Philippine History. The Site of the First Catholic Mass in the Philippines has been one of the most debated topics involving historians, locals and the religious faithful. Let us try to discuss each side in order to help us understand why it took 500 years before a decision was made.
References:
Pigafetta, Antonio. Magellan's First Voyage Around the World (Robertson Edition). Cleveland OH: The Arthur H. Clark Company, 1906.
Torres, Jose Victor. Batis: Sources in Philippine History. C&E Publishing. Quezon city, 2018.
nhcp.gov.ph
inquirer.net
philstar.com
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Holy Thursday is also a big celebration of the church. Almost equivalent to Passover of the Jews. When Magellan sent his troops to Butuan with Padre Balderama, there is a probability that they celebrated the first Mass in Masao Island before they returned to Limasawa where they celebrated another Mass on Easter Sunday.
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Pwede po makahingi ng explanation about sa 1.magellan's anchorage in butuan city 2. Imporatance of butuan city Para maging guide lang po sa reporting salamt po
Hello po, ang topic po namin is in Bolinao vs. Limasawa. Pwede po bang history dn po na fist mass was held in bolinao and not in limasawa
there is a work on the interpretation of pigafetta's journal by antonio jr. sosmeña in his youtube channel
sir pa answer po Maximilian identifies the first mass in Cebu, called Subuth, as incorrect. But if he could be wrong with eyewitnesses to the event, how much easier was it for later writers to be wrong when they had to rely on second, third, or fourth hand for their data?
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Pero na mentioned kasi sa Chronicle ni Pigafetta ang Butuan at Mazau.
The navigation point na sinulat ni pegafita ay na sa butuan .. nakasulat din sa libro ni pigafita na nakipag usap sila sa raja ng butuan
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The Mojares Panel (2020), sinabi nila na "First Easter Sunday Mass" ang naganap sa Limasawa Island. Kaya Saludo sa'yo sir sa pagsasabi sa katanungan na baka may mga mass pang nauna na hindi natin alam. Kaya mas okay naring tawaging First Easter Sunday Mass of 1521.
@profnextdoor21
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching the video up until the end. Hopefully the experts can come up also with a definite answer if the Easter Sunday Mass is indeed the first mass or baka may nauna pa
sir anong islands po ung tatlo na makikita pag nasa cross ka
In Bolinao po? Ano po ung history ng first mass sa Bolinao?
Thanks for info sir, also asking if where do you get this information from? Badly need references sir. I hope you still have the references po.
@profnextdoor21
8 ай бұрын
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Sir goodday po can i ask po if what is your view on the claim made by Congresswoman Ching Plaza that the first mass wa held in Butuan and not in Limasawa?
@profnextdoor21
6 ай бұрын
Hi! She probably wanted to fight for their Mazaua claim since obviously, she is from Agusan Del Norte which is the province that includes Butuan. Ultimately, their claim was denied by NHI in 1998 when they still sided with Limasawa and finally also in 2021. Nevertheless, her efforts gave way for experts to conduct research and hopefully we can still come up with solid evidence about its exact location because I think so far, the dispute in this issue is still debatable.
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Good AM Mr. Prof Next Door I have a question if the site of the first mas is a primary source, secondary source or tertiary source?
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
The site is primary source itself.
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9 ай бұрын
Thankyou Mr. Prof very big help for my reporting this day about the site of the first mass @@profnextdoor21
Hello po sir! Pwede po ba maka hingi ng source nyo po sa Masao Claim po sa butuan? Badly needed po kasi sa report namin. Thankyou so much po! Sobrang laking tulog po ng video🥺
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
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Good afternoon po sir mapahelp po about sa debate po namin sa The first ester mass in the Philippines Mazaua ba ?
@profnextdoor21
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Hi! Sa ngayon po ang tinatanggap ng NHCP ay ang Limasawa sa Leyte po.
Hello sir eto po ang report ko this coming tuesday about Pigafetta's account on the route of Magellan's expedition. According po ba kay Pigafetta, sa Limasawa near southern tip of Leyte po ba ang tinuturo niya or sa Masao Butuan?
@joannaflores3286
9 ай бұрын
hoping for fast response po thanks
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
@@joannaflores3286 Hi! As far as National Historic Commission is concerned, Limasawa ang site of the first mass. Pero if original designated site of the first mass, it is Masao.
Magandang Gabi po, mag tatankng lang po kung pano nakarating Ang dalawang Rajah sa limawasa? Ayun po dito "The island of this king is named Zuluan and Calagan, and when these two kings wish to visit one another they come to hunt on this island where we were. Of these kings the painted king is called Raia Calambu, and the other Raia Siani." -Ap
@profnextdoor21
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Good day! They accompanied Magellan to these islands. Magkakakilala naman din kasi ang mga Raha at may magkakamag-anak pa
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@@profnextdoor21 Wala ko Kasi akong nabasa na pumunta si Magellan sa butuan, Hindi po ba siya nakapunta sa butuan?
@profnextdoor21
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@@ericajapitan7842 nakapunta po. pero sa lugar lamang po ng Masao n bahagi ng butuan.
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@@profnextdoor21 thank you, sir
@profnextdoor21
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@@ericajapitan7842 May interpretarion kc n nauna pumunta si magellan s masao bago limasawa. Saka sa panahon ng kastila, masao ang kinikilala bilang site of first mass
where po can i find reliable sources about the masao claim?
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
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belated happy teachers days po , sir sana mapansin nyu ako , ano ba ung analysis of Kartilya ng Katipunan sit
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Kasama po ba dito yung republic act no. 2733 noong June 19, 1961?
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
Ayan po ang batas na Nagtalaga sa limasawa as site of the first mass from butuan
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Hello po sir!!! My false claim po ba sa cavite mutiny
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Sir prof ano po kayang paliwanag nyo kung bakit sa butuan ngyari ang 1st mass imbes na sa limasawa? Sana po mapansin
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Here's the story of our family Sultan. From Tudela Camotes Island Cebu...I've asked uncle Sean ba galing our name Sultan...Sabi nya yung mga castile daw nag tanong ng native...ano yan Island na yan referring to Limasawa Island....hindi magkaintindihan yan ang Lima Sawa means 5 wives of the Sultan...even in SAMOA 🇼🇸 lima means 5... tapos may Chinese trader bininta ang anak sa Sultan para maka barter sa Sultan...it happened that girl was our great 5x grandma... sa Muslim only the first 3 wives are legitimate...Lola sa 4th... so she moved back to Camotes Island to her relatives you eventually were baptized Christians ✝️
@bmercadal6805
10 ай бұрын
Susan Rose's muddle name is Sultan from camotes island... her father us WW2 USAFFE veteran with a purple heart saw it with my own eyes...maraming na patay sa peryahan or sugalan ang hanap buhay...kaya ba binta si Tiya Susan for 5,000 pesos...kaya galit sa tunay na magukang...ex convict katulad ni Robin... 13 na patay na kulong...no one wants to believe but we are sticking to our guns...but i don't have a gun hehe It's no surprise she adopted a daughter... adopted din sta eh.. Viva Christo Rey..
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10 ай бұрын
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@bmercadal6805
10 ай бұрын
My late wife was from Butuan...madjao doy...
Good evening sir. Permission to use your video po as a reference of my reporting ? Thanks in advance po.
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hello po, pwede po ba mahingi ung reference nyo po dto? huhu
@profnextdoor21
2 ай бұрын
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Sino naman po yung naka witness si albo poba or si pigafetta?
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
Pareho po sila for limasawa
@ali_beeeeeee
9 ай бұрын
@@profnextdoor21 ah so wala pong nauna sa kanila kung sino po yung naka witness sa first catholic mass in the Philippines
@profnextdoor21
9 ай бұрын
@@ali_beeeeeee I think magkasabay nmn sila dhl magkasama po sila. Its just that mas detailed ang naipublish n journal ni Pigafetta kya naging major source ito. Wala nmn actually nabanggit na misa sa sinulat ni Albo pero nabanggit dun na naglagay sila ng cross sa island na fit sa description ng limasawa
sir who is the author of the site of first mass?
@profnextdoor21
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Most of the primary sources for this topic came from antonio pigafetta and francisco albo
@secret3504
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@@profnextdoor21 thank you sir. I was confused po kasi, if it was antonio pigaffeta or sonia zaide. Thank you again sir.
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1324 ginanap ang unang misa sa Bolinao Pangasinan.
@profnextdoor21
8 ай бұрын
That is one of the claims outside of Limasawa and Masao. But apparently, reknowned historians like William Henry Scott stated that this claim could be false due to Pangasinan's location. Hopefully more historical records and evidence can be found to make it clear and have finality.
Naging hudyat ng pagpasok ng ano po?
@profnextdoor21
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Hello! Can you please specify your question?
Hi po, nag claim din ang bolinao pangasinan na sakanila nagganap ang the first mass Ask ko lang kung ano yung mga evidence nila Salamat po
thank you sir