One other little trick/tip I’d like to mention is , when changing the tuners but still keeping the same strings, I like to capo the strings at the first fret before unwinding them. That helps keep them right there in position to easily re install on the new tuning machines without all the mess and tangling when the strings are just dangling loose.

All mod projects greatly appreciated . Thanks Mr Lobster

Indeed, no more neck dive on my U5 with those! Thanks!

Thank you Lobster! I did the same thing on my V7 for the neck drop.

Taking delivery of a P5R 5 string tomorrow. This looks like a worthy upgrade. Thanks Lobster!

Just did this on my U5 and neck dive has gone! Thanks for this!

Thanks Lobster. I was thinking about changing the tuners on my p7 fretless to Hipshot ultralite, but I am not good at drilling. It is very good to see this video. I will upgrade to Gotoh instead.

Very nice Bass, especially with that Tuner upgrade!

This is a great video. Thank you Will. I upgraded my Sire with the Hipshots, i also bought the adapters, but the adapters are made of an heavier material which ends up defeating the whole purpose of the lightweigt tuners, I ended up using your taping technique. IOt's a good thing there are better alternatives out there for rthe Sire's.

This video would greatly benefit from before and after pictures of the back of the headstock.

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right! I'll be sure to do that next time. Great suggestion!

@xavierm.9265

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobster Lobster, I hope you do a video of the latest MTD Lynn Keller 4 string, 32” scale.

@xavierm.9265

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobster Thanks for the reply Lobster! Btw, did you send me a message to reach out to you on Telegram about a surprise or is that a bot?! 😮

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Nope, it's a scam. I don't reach out to people in that manner (or at all really LOL)

@xavierm.9265

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobster I thought so…thank you for the confirmation!

Did the mod on my P5 4-string and it made a HUGE difference in reducing the dive. The bass is very level with virtually no tug. Great suggestion and great vid! Thanks for excellent suggestion!

@LowEndLobster

11 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

This was a lifesaver, i was really considering sending my P5 back because the neck diving was impossible to bare. I never did a mod before, but i just had to follow this video and now i have a perfectly aceptable balance. Thanks Lobster!

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad this worked out for you! It's way easier than the Hipshot mod for sure. I've been doing this on all of my Sires minus the ones I'm keeping 100% stock.

Thank you, Lobster! I'm always hesitant to drill any holes in any of my basses

That's a really nice upgrade. I may add those to my Sire V5 4-string. Thanks!

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

I did this on my Sire P5 4 string as well, it's a great upgrade!

I lucked into a set of these in black from a TBer who didn’t know what he had, I think for $15 lol. They’re on a project PJ build right now, just need to route for the J pickup and wire it up. Good tuners!

Thanks Lobster! I just ordered a set for my V3P 5 string as I was not happy with the tuners.

@dancollins7585

5 ай бұрын

Did you end up doing it? I also have that bass and am considering it.

I usually love your videos, but I feel this video might be more useful if it had contained closeup shots of the back of the headstock during the installation, instead of a wide shot of the front, or at the very least a closeup still of the back after installation. As it is we don't really see the tuners, don't really see the process, and don't really see the result.

Thank you very much for the informative and interesting videos! You are the best! So, do I understand correctly that this is a drop-in replacement for a Sire u5 too?

I just got the Gotoh 201B-4 bridge for my P5. It has the Fender screw pattern, so I did have to drill. It was almost too small. I was gonna throw it on my cnz jazz mini, which I converted to a fretless 😅

Neat trick with the socket as a bushing pusher.

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It works so well. I've seen some SCARY pics of damaged headstocks from people trying to pry the bushings out. I wanted to stress on here that the socket method is way easier and you won't damage the bass.

@billholder1330

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobster Yeah, great if you have access to the back of the bushing. I do have a bushing lifter winch gadget from StewMac for the closed back kind of bushing (Gibson bridge studs, etc.), but the socket is a better solution here.

Excellent!

You can use paper glue mixed with wood dust to fill the screw holes, to prevent some moisture.

Great video

I did that with my Fender Mono Neon. The bass is so much better balanced with light tuners. I used the Sandberg aluminium ultra light tuners, I think they are the lightest on the market. Expensive, but very good !!!

@priceth

5 ай бұрын

Hey did you have to drill new holes for this tuner?

@FrowinIckler

5 ай бұрын

@@priceth Hi! Yes you have to drill one hole per tuner into the headstock. No big deal. And if you want to switch back to the original tuners, the holes will be covered by the tuners ;-)

@priceth

5 ай бұрын

@@FrowinIckler cool appreciate it

@FrowinIckler

5 ай бұрын

@@priceth You're welcome :-) And related to the Fender tuners you'll save around 62grams per tuner, thats overall 310g with a 5 string bass!

I get the weight loss advantage. Nice to have a 5 string that weighs less than 9 pounds! But, I've played Fender basses since the late 60s, and I've never cared about neck dive. Maybe I'm strange, but when I'm playing, I actually have my hands on the bass. So the neck never dives!

Another great LEL video! Do you know if the tuners the same on the V5 as i'd like to change them to get the same results?

Thank you so much for this video, very informative. I have a Sire P7 and a V7, both 5 strings and yes they do tend to dive, so like you said, the Gotoh GB528 will eliminate those neck dives 🙏🏾🕺🏾, question, will straplocks(Dunlop) help as well? Thank you.

thank you for the info mr.lobster , i have a u5 and a p10 the top's are almost identical. i would love to find a RM neck for the u5 or have one made. what do you think of that for a upgrade project?

I’ve been considering changing the tuners on my Sire U5 to improve the balance. Any idea if these Gotoh tuners would be a direct swap in that bass too (I.E. use the exist screw holes)?

I bought some Fender ultra-lights and they actually weigh more than the Mexican tuners!

I love my P5, but the neck dive has been troubling. I was hoping there was a drop-in replacement (no painter's tape!). Thanks for the video.

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

You'll enjoy the significant improvement with these, and yep - no tape or drilling!

@warburgaby

Жыл бұрын

great bass, but great neck diving. Thanks Lobster!

Gotoh makes supremely good hardware, Both of my Atelier Z Beta 6's have them. Reso-lite hardware is I dare say better than quality and weight relief than Hipshot.

Hi Lobster, thank you for the video! Is this Gotoh GB528 a drop in even for Sire V5 or there are other tuner machine who requires no drill? Thanks in advance for your help

Off topic question for Mr. Lobs or any knowledgeable person: what is the real bang for your buck sibling in the sterling family? The ray34 has gorgeous finishes (blue sparkle, Neptune blue and cherry burst, namely), but they are a bit pricey and maybe not worth the price.

I'm thinking of doing this mod to my P5 4-string. A couple of questions, given that it's only 4 strings, will the weight/balance differential be noticeable and is there enough space to use the old screws to fill the screw holes or are they too flush with the tuner? Thanks for this mod that will hopefully make playing this cool bass even more fun and comfortable.

This is my biggest problem with my Marcus Miller 5 string too! Where can I get these tuners at??

when a rewiew of the new v5r and v3p?

Would these drop into a jack casady?

Hello. Thank you for the video. I want to change the tuners on my Sire Marcus Miller D5, I'm looking for more affordable tuners. Do you have any idea? Thx

Great video as per usual but where’s the cats on the intro?.. :)

I use a 3.5" leather strap. Works with any bass.

Which lightweight tuners would install on a sterling sub4?

I measured the tuner hole on my V5 at 18mm. The Gotoh bushing is 16mm according to a reverb listing. Did yours fit snug? Or was it loose and need something extra?

Can I use them on my Yamaha BB1025X? That bass neck seriously dives 😩

These Tuners seem to be impossible to find right now. Goes anybody have a source?

Hi there @LowEndLobster , I would like to change the Headstock for a V3 second generation, do you know if I should go for those Gotoh GB528 ? Also I 'd like to go for a D Tuner would you have any reference ? Thank you for your attention. Greats vids and tutos !

Ciao Will e complimenti sempre per i tuoi video, sono fatti veramente bene, ti volevo chiedere una info, nel video si vede che hai cambiato anche il ponte, potresti dirmi il modello e magari il link su dove acquistarlo, grazie

Any lightweight machine heads that are cheaper?

@LowEndLobster Would these tuners also fit the V7/P7 as a no drill ?

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Love Short INTRO

How did you know in advance that the Gotoh GB528s would be a direct replacement (including the screw holes)?

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

I did the mod to my P5 4 string already beforehand

Hi Lobster, thanks for this video. Does it work on a Sire U 5 without drilling new holes ?

@LowEndLobster

11 ай бұрын

Hi! Yes, I have an upcoming U5 mod video with these tuners.

@tomtrumper9433

11 ай бұрын

@@LowEndLobster thank you, this bass fits perfectly to me and sounds really great.Greetings from Frankfurt 🤩

Yey!

I don`t understand why only a few will hit the like button. It`s the least anyone can do to help the channel. The Sire`s look like a great deal.

Hi Lobster! Are you aware of a pickup that fits the 5 string P5 without modification?

@inakilabella2104

11 ай бұрын

Delano AS

For this 5 string set, I assume you have to order the gotoh as a 4l 1r combination?

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Wo wo wo wo WO. Bro. Talk a little bit about the new supposedly drop-in bridge!!!!!

@LowEndLobster

10 ай бұрын

From Gotoh? The ones' I've installed weren't drop in. I don't think they have one for Sires.

those will fit a sire D5 4 string?

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Sneaky shorter intro! Hope you’re good lobster!

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Doing great :).

First!!!!

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Woooo!

Yep I should've watched this before making a dumb comment on Instagram. 🤓

Where beard

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

New aerodynamic look for 2023 ;P

@Dieqx

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobster Noooooooooooooooo

What happened to the intro?

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Experimenting with a shorter intro

@Inferno5150

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobster Count this comment as a vote for the short intro from now on. Good, vid, btw

Not worth the $100 for the little bit of neck dive. I actually never even considered neck dive until I watched Lobster. Haha I use standard 2” nylon straps so there must be enough friction with those. To each is own. 👍

@BoomChockolaca

Жыл бұрын

You don't understand the subject, but already claiming "it's not worth it". I don't get it. Try playing some well-balanced instrument and you'll get the feeling Don't forget those tuners will also increase the tuning stability and reduce overall weight of the instrument - easier to handle.

🦞, have you gigged much with this bass? If so how are you liking it so far?

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

I haven't gigged this one. My go-to 5 string P is my Lakland 55-64 Skyline w/ flats hahaha. That is the BEST 5 string P IMO, but they stopped making the Skyline one.

@thenightlifezero9154

Жыл бұрын

@@LowEndLobsteras always fun and informative content! Thanks Lobster. Those Lakland P basses are solid!

@thenightlifezero9154

Жыл бұрын

🦞 There's another bogus bot trying to offer a prize under your name again

@LowEndLobster

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting me know! Handled it!