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We have been using Fuse 1 (not + version) for almost 2 years now. Almost for a year it was used 24/7. During that time we had only 1 serious down time that lasted a week if I remember correctly. Typically we are using 70-80% of ,,reused'' powder mixed with 20-30% fresh powder. What I do like about the Fuse and formalbs in general is the availability and quality of the technical guidelines, manuals etc (have no experience with other vendor stuff). And of course the fact the materials just work. For beginner the ease of use is a huge advantage for whole approach of Formlabs. Gaining more and more experience in SLS printing at the moment I would love to have another machine to do experiments with materials, settings etc.

Can you make comparison between four budget SLS systems: Sinterit lisa X vs Fuse 1+ vs Sintratec S3 vs WeMatter Gravity?

Great video

So I've had the Sinterit Lisa Pro and it was pretty hit and miss. Parts could come out funky if the powder wasn't almost 100% new, meaning you use a lot of powder, and need to refresh used powder with more volume than you used in a print, meaning you stack up loads of unused powder. The system is messy and a faff to load and unload the chambers, and the software was buggy. Our print beds jammed up and broke, and then a few months after replacing them, the machine has broken completely, unable to open the lid, saying an internal temp of 1049 degrees, and then shorting out the electrics. Our Formlabs Form 2 has been going strong for 4 years, only one replacement needed after a software bug, but it hasn't gone wrong otherwise, The software and system seems more finished.. Wanting to replace the Lisa Pro with another Sinterit machine makes me nervous and I'm leaning towards the Fuse + because it's much tidier and smoother to run

@VisionMiner

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! We found that sticking the 6kg pail of powder in a large dehydrator at 60-70°C for a few days works wonders in refreshing it. Even after it became moisture-soaked and clumped, it went back to near-perfection, which is really promising for our refresh rate. We can't wait to put this to the test with daily use on the Lisa X. It's incredible to see how Sinterit keeps improving. They're now on the 6th revision of the Lisa Pro and 7th revision of the original Lisa. Do you know which version you have? We'd love to hear more about your personal experience with it. Is it still broken, or did you get it running again? Also, did you have the powder handling station, or were you doing all the loading/unloading in the old sieve boxes? As for the Fuse, we've heard a few stories from customers and while it sounds like it still has some kinks to work out, it's worth noting that Formlabs has been making SLA machines for 12 years, and have had time to perfect them. On the other hand, they've only been making SLS for 2-3 years, whereas Sinterit has been doing it for 9 years now. It's always interesting to see how new machines compare with the established players in the market. If you ever want to reach out and discuss your experience further, or if you'd like us to run some test prints for you, please don't hesitate to contact us. We'd be more than happy to help!

Honestly, the ease of use, straightforwardness of the product sounds appealing (less human error) but your absolutely right, as a consumer I dont want to pay for mandatory service. The limited materials is not great either

Which one has 3d nesting of parts?

How much do you need to spend to SLS print metals?

Nothing beats the ease of use, repeatability and the part quality of the Fuse 1+. I'd found it hard to believe that such an affordable machine could be on par with machines that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, until I started printing with the Fuse myself. I'm now looking to increase my fleet and don't consider any other SLS machine. It's a game changer.

@APiece0fToast69

10 ай бұрын

Came here to say exactly this. I was skeptical of the Fuse 1+ when we got one to prototype bot gearing and housings, and I've never been happier about being wrong. This thing is a masterpiece (as is their support, no joke it is worth what they charge). We just got a PO approved for three more and I'm stoked! It was a totally different experience with the Lisa pro. We stopped using it after ~6 months because it was a PITA to consistently get descent parts out of. We've been using SLS bureaus for years so we know how to design for it. Blasting is still the worst part about it all but I'd rather that than clipping-off and sanding-down supports.

DO NOT BUY THE LISA X (read on for reasoning) I own a Sinterit Lisa X and have owned a formlabs Fuse 1 in the past. In 9 months of operation the lisa X has accrued more time on support calls than it has in printing. Its a shame but although the Sinterit Studio is really good for fine positioning of parts etc the printer is a massive let down. Chief issues are: The recoater cord (a £15 consumable that may possibly last 100 hours of printing if you're lucky) (for reference a full volume print can be more than 50 hours) The recoater cord also frays a lot leaving little bits of fibre all over the place and if it fails the printer will carry on regardless leading to a big molten mess. The amount of additional powder required around the print (the build chamber is bigger than the stated print volume leading to prints requiring more powder than you would think There is no exhaust filtration so all the particulate and fume by product is exhausted straight to the area around the printer The drive cord pulls powder through its running holes in the build chamber area into the guts of the machine (including but not limited to the main power supply and control circuit boards, this results in having to take the back off the machine every 100 hours of printing and then with artists brush and vacuum clean the powder off that I can get at in order to prevent a fire hazard) Heat imbalance on warmup layers resulting in caking of the powder in the top RH corner of the build volume, successive firmware updates have helped but I still get a 4mm thick pad of semi-sintered powder out of the bottom of each print which has to go in the bin. Reseller technical training is lacking, beyond selling you a printer and installing it, not much help. Now on to the Sinterit powder handling station (PHS) No extraction hood means you've gotta go slow on depowdering otherwise it gets lofted everywhere. If you haven't got the additional cyclonic separator in line between the PHS and the vacuum , 50% + of your re-usable powder will end up as waste in the vacuum. de-powdering tools are better than the ones provided by formlabs. Powder cost Sinterit powder is appreciably more expensive than competition yet functionally identical. Yes the Fuse 1 has an expensive service contract but from the other side I would say I've lost more than that in less than a year in the value of failed prints, wasted powder and company time with a Lisa X.

Can you also make a comparisson for the Sintratec S3?

@Japkobenc

Жыл бұрын

Once it will be on market, huh

@VisionMiner

Жыл бұрын

Great systems from what I know, just more expensive. We'll do another comparison, thanks for the suggestion!

@Sintratec

Жыл бұрын

@@VisionMiner We would love a comparison! 😉

I’m taking the Fuse, Hands down.

@VisionMiner

Жыл бұрын

If it fits your needs go for it!

@aasiaasi

Жыл бұрын

After using Lisa Pro, Fuse 1 and Fuse 1+ 30W. Newer going back to Sinterit.

@blaise-of-glory

Жыл бұрын

​@@aasiaasiwhat's the primary reason for this decision? Just asking! I have no skin in this game yet.

@aasiaasi

Жыл бұрын

@@blaise-of-glory usability. Sinterit doesn't have the same level powder recycling. If you operate the machines daily you start to value the time you save from the maintenance etc.

We use EOS in our company

Fuse 1 does not *require* a service contract btw

@VisionMiner

9 ай бұрын

No? Not the 1+? Did they change their policy?

@Chaosghoul

9 ай бұрын

@@VisionMiner this was never a thing. It is highly encouraged but you can deny getting extra service and just stick with baseline customer care. Even if you do get a higher service tier, you can also just let it run out. Your printer will print whether or not you have a service contract

@samuelwolff89

3 ай бұрын

it is nice to have a technician come out and service/repair the printer though- i'd say it's worth it for the first two years until you can pay it off in parts.

I'm sorry, but the cost analysis is lacking basis... yes, the sinterit is cheaper, but it prints slow and chambers have to cool completely inside the machine, so you can produce way more parts on Fuse1.

I sell products that are made for us at the moment by a bureau using HP MJF machines. I've had many SLS prints made in the past which are suitable and I've seriously been considering buying some SLS printers for in-house manufacturing production. Personally I don't like Formlabs as a company simply due to feeling they are selling overpriced products even if good products. Sinterit has been on my radar for some time and it's getting closer to making purchasing decisions, however, reading the user comments below doesn't instil a lot of confidence in the Sinterit machines. Of course those could be fake or misinformed, but even if the print quality is comparable it's the reliability of the machines that I'm more concerned about. Reliability is a key component to having a business or having a hobby. The HP MJF machines my bureau uses are total shit (imo) always breaking down and costing huge amounts of effort to keep running by very qualified technicians. Of course we are talking a different price point here's for such pro machines but regardless, I want a reliable machine and if Formlabs is my only option then I will just stick to outsourcing (whether MJF or SLS) and let them deal with all the breakdowns. I haven't given up on Sinterit as a company and I get the point of your reply to a comment of Sinterit continuously updating their machines, but I will have to talk to more users now of the realities of owning a Sinterit machine before buying some.

@rasi_rawss

8 ай бұрын

did you ever settle on Sinterit or Form Labs?

@JohnDoe-cf8jz

8 ай бұрын

@@rasi_rawss Neither. After more research and also changes in life direction I decided that it's still better to get whatever I need made using MJF with the same company. Having my own machines would be very efficient for prototyping and limited manufacturing, but I'm moving toward more virtual businesses than physical ones.

Got my Lisa X, and I feel like a dog with two tails.

@VisionMiner

Жыл бұрын

Yeah? Enjoying it? Shoot us an email with your experience, or give us a call!

@mateobstackin-ku1gd

Жыл бұрын

Whacha makin

I got elegoo mars 3 with free bag of rice

@VisionMiner

Жыл бұрын

LOL usually it's candy but that's pretty clever

Propaganda video

@VisionMiner

7 ай бұрын

Disagree -- do you have first hand experience with the Fuse 1, their support team, or using their materials?

Tell me you are a Sinerit schill with out telling me you’re a schill. Very biased review in tone and content. Also needs affiliate disclaimer. 👎🏻