NOTE: I did not have to DO ANY BRAKE BLEEDING! ....I just hooked everything up and started pumping....engine, running, engine ,off...several times and the pedal came right up! Some say take it to the dealer and spend $100's of dollars...I say ...I never had to do that. That's all I did. Most of the time this works. Then after you do this, then maybe try to bleed the brakes per wheel...to make sure all the air bubbles are gone ;)

@ladscr28

6 жыл бұрын

TVWXMAN32 I am having the same problem after changing rotors and pads the front right caliper is not working I checked the master cylinder and is working properly but I loose one by one of the brake lines on the abs module and my right front is not working no brake fluid coming out 2007 vw Jetta 2.5

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Internal failure possible. Was it doing the same thing before the new parts?

@ladscr28

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice that cuz I bought the car and had no brakes they were shot almost metal to metal but the thing is that the master cylinder even when the car is off the brake pedal goes down. You think that if the master cylinder does not have enough pressure and that's why does not push brake fluid to the right caliper? Hey thank you for responding

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Yes. But If your caliper has a rubber flex line...take it off and see if it stopped up. I've had them do that before making me think it was a bad wheel cylinder/caliper. If its seems ok, then check the master cylinder next. Cheaper to start small and work your way up.

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

But....its sounding like a ABS pump Issue ;(

This saved my life as well did EVERYTHING but the abs now after replacing the abs the pedal is spot on

Thanks Nat, I know this is an old Video, but it Helped me out a LOT!... Thumbs Up!

Great video! I have THE EXACT same issue on my '99 Suburban.

Abs module was the culprit. Spot on perfect solution. Thank you so much for posting this and helping us all through your trial and errors.

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Great!!!

Thanks for the video! I've been a professional for over 40 years, I've never replaced a brake pump! It makes perfect sense. That will be my next move!

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Nice! Let us know how it goes!

Excellent vide, sir. We've been having the same issue on a early 90's Honda Accord. Never thought to look at the ABS pump but tried just about everything else. Good tip about how to check the master cylinder too. Thanks for taking time to make the video! Much appreciated.

I’m have the same soft pedal issue with my dodge. Changed the brake pads in the front because they were bad then it snow ball effect started. Changed the ritors, calipers, flex hoses and master brake cylinder. Still having the soft pedal issue. Makes sense that it’s the ABS module. Thanks for the video!!

Hey TVWXMAN32, Dr Motor here. I wanted to thank you for your information. I did find a used unit in PA, had it shipped to me. Installed it yesterday, did a little bleeding all is good! You were right on point!Thank you my brother!

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked!!

Bro thank you so much you saved my family. My mom lost her job because ee didnt have the money to fix her breaks(120) grom joe bidens econemy both frong and back brake were toast anyhow it took me 4 days to figure out why the car was bleeding we were getting fluid out of every bleeder screw but the peddle still was just sinking yo the floor, i put all the tires on and drove it down my back road and engaged my abs system by smashing the breaks came bsck in the garage started from the back and bled them all and it worked perfectly fine thank you so much

A really good video, especially the method used to rule out the master cylinder. I screwed in a m11 bolt into one of the master cylinder terminals and the pedals went rock hard after a few pumps. Life saving video!!

@Nehmo

10 ай бұрын

@@wilpresswil I agree, the video is entertaining as long as you don't need to understand what Nathan did.

i have the same provlem you get an i did not no what to do seeing your video help i change the master cyl to an bleed the brakes GREAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!

Thank you so much. Saved me lot of time and money.

You are a legend for taking the time and effort to make this video 😎. I did not know the could go bad like that, I used to have a 1999 Discovery which did the same thing and never found out what the problem was!

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@sabroso28

Жыл бұрын

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This video saved my life lol I've done everything but that to my f150

I was confused with my brake system same as yours,finally i know now what to change,Thank you so much

Great video. I’m glad I found this. Struggling with my 2011 grand Cherokee and then racking my brains out to figure out what the hell is wrong after I did everything you did. Thanks a lot bye take care

@matthieuratrimoson3271

Жыл бұрын

Did you replace the ABS system? I have the same model and year and the BRAKE warning light stays on even when driving

Thanks for the information. I just did a complete brake overhaul on my 2009 F250 Super Duty truck. I bled the brakes using a vacuum pump until I was sure there was no air in the system. I had a hard brake pedal when the engine was off. However, after starting it, the pedal went about 1/2 down to the floor. I had brakes but they were not the same as before I did the brake job. They felt spongy and would seem to go to the floor when holding the pedal down. I knew that my ABS pump was ok because the chances of it failing just because I did a brake job was remote. So following your diagnosis and reading the comments below, I pulled the 40 amp fuse for the ABS pump. As soon as I did that, my brakes were fine. I test drove the truck for a short distance with the ABS light on and my brakes were perfect. I came back home, reinstalled the fuse and the ABS light went out and my brakes are now perfect. Basically, it seems like all I had to do was to cycle the ABS pump and that fixed my problem.

@JustinBobby-di9zt

5 жыл бұрын

ABS almost never fails, unless you use a silicone based fluid by mistake, the light will come on so you'll know and its extremely rare.

@jgarrettchunn

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, perhaps I’ll try that before buying a new ABS unit. Where is the fuse located? And when you say “cycle the ABS pump,” does that basically mean like a hard reset on a computer?

@dodgedak03

2 жыл бұрын

@David McClain I have an 05 Ram 2500, same issue. Brake pedal would sink to the floor. I replaced my master cylinder and bled the brakes. Still had a sinking brake pedal... Bled the brakes again to no avail. I saw this post, disconnected my batteries overnight. Seems to have reset my ABS module. Brakes are firm again! Thank you!

@kathytraskal3545

2 жыл бұрын

THIS! THIS! THIS!.... I did this on my 2010 ford escape and it works!!!! Bless you man!!!! saved me a ton of $. Cheers

@ronskancke1489

8 ай бұрын

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GOD BLESS YOU! This is awesome!

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Word!

Thanks buddy.thats info I needed!

Got me too! I guess I should have done a vid on this deal a few years ago...got a new one off ebay, 425. Bled brakes, BEST BRAKES AND ABS IN THE WORLD!!!!!

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Nice~!

Thanks TVWXman32 ... This is exactly the problem I'm having and will definately look at replacing the ABS Control Module ...

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Cool!

Nathan, you confirmed my suspicions. I'm working on a 2001 Silverado pedal goes to the floor. Replaced the rt front leaking brake hose both master to ABS unit leaking brake lines, bleed the system three different ways. Still no pedal. Your experience compliments mine. Never had a issue with ABS controllers. TILL NOW.

@FixingWithPassion

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!!! Good work!

Yes sir, I know this video is years old but thanks for it. I’ve had this problem for years and have just lived with it. Now that it seems to be getting worse I will try this fix. Thanks again

@FixingWithPassion

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

Wow. I hope this is the answer to my brake problem. I'll try that. Thanks for the video.

@FixingWithPassion

3 жыл бұрын

Let us know!

Thank you very, very, much! Your fix worked perfect. Now how do I put back all the hair I pulled out? GREAT VIDEO!!!!

@armoricain

4 жыл бұрын

Well, if you weren't balding in the first place, wait until your hair grows back, otherwise you're out of luck and bald for life! LOL! Just teasing!

@Chapaveli5959

3 жыл бұрын

@@armoricain lol

@tagminda4565

3 жыл бұрын

😅🤣😂 Never mind, losing hair is better than losing brake?

@maddawgnoll

2 жыл бұрын

Super glue

Thanks for posting this. Almost textbook with the problem I had with a 2001 Escape. I guess I have some work ahead for me. Cheers!

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Let us know if you fix it!

@scotttaylor6358

6 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking this is not worth it. I may donate the vehicle, since I was going to sell it anyway, it needs new tires, and now either the battery or the charging system is shot. I've got too much else going on to pursue this. But again, thanks for the videos. Last time I did a brake line change, it was a lot harder than I thought it would be. I could get about $2k to sell this car, or just donate it and get it out of my hair. Heck, I'm just a biologist, with some mechanical skills. How does that stupid "Kars for Kids" get so much radio time anyway?

Thank you Sir, this video helped me solve the problem!

Thank you very much!!!

I am a professional mechanic with 33 years on the job . I ran into the same problem today on a 99 f150 . After putting 4 master cylinders on it and going thru half a gallon of fluid . I arrived at the same conclusion . I have seen over 100 bad abs units before , but this problem is a first for me . I am glad that it is a common ford problem . Now I just have to find another unit for my customer . Thanks for the video - that truck was kicking my butt .

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it. Sometimes, its right in our face...lol

One of the things that can take out the ABS and the calipers is failure to flush out the brake system with compatible brake fluid and then top off the master cylinder to the max mark. The pistons in these devices are made from steel that can and will rust out if maintenance is not done. The DOT 3/4 conventional and synthetic brake fluid is hydroscopic and will readily absorb moisture. Not only does that moisture rust out the caliper/slave pistons but the braking is much reduced by the moisture (since water boils (steam) at 212 degrees at sea level and a gas (steam) can be compressed (spongy feel at pedal.) This should be done once a year to reduce the chance of rust in the system and maintain the seal softeners in the system which DEPLETE in one year. (Professional racecar mechanics change out the brake fluid before every race!) You will immediately notice the stopping power increase after changing out the brake fluid. Once the debris, dirt, rust is eliminated and your clear plastic line runs clear on all bleeder valves, try to clean the inside of your master cylinder reservoir with a soft LINT FREE cloth to restore its translucency. Some people wonder why the master cylinder brake fluid is dark after a length of time. This is caused by dirt entering the system every time the brakes are applied. While there is a seal-boot on the slave cylinder for drum brakes or seals on the calipers, these seals do not prevent ALL dirt from entering the hydraulic system. Dirt is the enemy of hydraulic systems! The final bleeding will be done with fresh brake fluid and all dirt will be eliminated. Plan on using 1.5 quarts to do this procedure correctly. And be sure to read the very small fine print on every brake fluid can. You may need a magnifying glass to read it! It's that small! They all say once the can is opened dispose of the remainder responsibly. Reason? Once opened it's now contaminated with moisture from the air. And never mix standard brake fluid with synthetic blake fluid they are not miscible or compatible! Use what the vehicle manufacture says to use. Special procedures are needed to properly bleed down ABS systems and each vehicle can be different on the sequence for wheel gets bled first, last and in between so it is prudent to check the factory manual. I hope this helps someone. UTI graduate AOS Automobile, Diesel & Industrial Technology, ASE Master Technician - Automobile, ASE Master Technician Medium/Heavy Truck.

@ekbenny3939

Жыл бұрын

UTI guys back at it 🤣

@glitchthecat5011

Жыл бұрын

Just bought kia sportage 08 like 100k miles,had air in brake lines and needed pads and a couple rotors..but when I went to bleed the brakes,they ended up feeling like even more air was in the lines than I started out with,Pedal goes all the way to floor now and pumping the pedal makes no difference on stiffness..when bleeding the brakes,1 bleeder screw was a 11mm others were 10mm which means they've been messed with previously.during the bleeding process I noticed I had to nearly REMOVE the bleeder screw just to get a minimal amount of fluid.right before I am able to get the screw open just enough to barely be able to bleed it,I noticed a tiny bit of fluid drippin out from the seat...the fluid was BLACK so I continued to bleed until it came out clear,unfortunately I noticed a bit to late that my buddy "helping" wasnt paying attention to the reservoir..could I have possibly sucked some air up into the abs control module?or is it more likely I just need to replace calipers to,the fluid says it's never been chsnged

@azzz7998

Жыл бұрын

Good stuff all true .

@scottwebber652

Жыл бұрын

So what happened when I had a complete brake job and fluid replacement. Had full pedal prior to n spongy pedal afterwards. I’m thinking they f’ed up my job. Brakes work but pedal low

@kevinoneill41

7 ай бұрын

Thanks I have done this only once at between 65k and 75k it how has about 165K miles I will replace replace the fluid this next servicing 👍

Great video , thanks for posting .

I am thrilled that you solved the mystery. It's on one I am facing on the abs light along with brake light staying on even when I replaced the left front wheel sensor. I erased all the codes with scanner, turned engine on and lights went out. But later I drove off and in 5 secs both lights came on. Initial scan at a transmission shop found trouble with both, wheel sensor and abs pump failure. Now I will re-scan for abs codes, but I am aware the abs pump will need replacement. The odd thing You mentioned was, that after throwing the (junkyard) abs pump, you didn't bother to bleed the brakes? Its a rule of thumb, when Ever, a brake line is opened, it needs to be bled, bcuz air gets in. I fear soon you'll be right back underneath. Another amazing thing is, what are the chances of getting a used abs unit with identical part number! And then for $40? Lol.. Down here the junkyard wants $100+ .. smh.

thanks for posting this helped me alot i have the same issue on my dodge ram 1500

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Very Cool!

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@longjonSF

4 жыл бұрын

same.. did you replace the whole pump or just the control module?

@hectorbautista602

4 жыл бұрын

@@longjonSF whole pump

Good information thanks

Thanks a lot

Thanks for vdo I got the same problem on 07 Mazda 3s after replaced abs unit it back on the road again, Thanks

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Yes! Glad you fixed it! Its a good feeling Isn't it knowing you save money and time!

Ohh man Wish I had found this video sooner. I have 95’ 4Runner 4x4 4 wheel ABS (uncommon for these particular vehicles) and man I’ve replaced dam near the entire brake system already and it seemed worked for a bit but yet again my pedal is sinking down! Almost purposely drove this thing off a cliff after $500+bucks into the brake system alone. I’m definitely going for the ABS module now. pray for me haha

@FixingWithPassion

2 жыл бұрын

O my! Let us know if you fix it!!

Great job, well done good sir,,,, cheers....

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

awesome!! I went through 2 Master Cylinders on my 2004 Dodge Dakota before I tried this. Thank you!

@FixingWithPassion

2 жыл бұрын

Yea!!

Thank you. I’ve gone through 4 big bottles of break fluid, and 2 master cylinders trying to figure this out.

@FixingWithPassion

2 жыл бұрын

Lets fix it!

@Camerons16

2 жыл бұрын

@@FixingWithPassion Did you have to reprogram the abs module?

Same thing happened to me, 2003 e450 super duty, soft spongy brakes, especially at a stop light they hit the floor, brakes sounded like brake pad grinding when coming to a stop at slow speeds, replaced hydro booster, master cyl, pads, rotors, calipers, bled the brakes.... still doing the same thing . . . in the end, it was the ABS module which had triggered no ABS warning light. I watched several videos first which all said master cylinder causes soft brakes...but so will the ABS :) Thank you and good look!

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you figured it out!!

I have same exact problem and thanks to you kind sir I know what I have to do now..

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Comments like this makes youtube worth my time!~ Let us know if you fix it!~!~

Thank you for your help

I know a trick that turns off the low fuel warning (lol) Thanks for the video. I have been turning wrenches for 25 years and every so often I learn something new! Thank you!

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@leadbetter1808

6 жыл бұрын

Why would you turn off the low fuel warning?

@pauldalby8196

3 жыл бұрын

@@leadbetter1808 man, I hate that low fuel light!

This video was spot on on in the frustrations i went through haha - I have an ABS on order for a 2017 Audi A6 with only 55000 miles on it! I ordered it simply by how similar he described his process and frustration - I already installed a new master btw so hopefully this will fix the issue - it’s been a few months . One weird thing to note is that the pedal feel would be “ok” for a few days after bleeding and activating the abs pump. during wet weather it was really bad! And it’s not always consistent- around town it felt decent but drive on the highway for a bit and get off a highway exit and surprise, I would have to pump them a bit to hold pressure- and it’s true there is a lot of spotty information on it - everything says master cylinder… great video!

@FixingWithPassion

2 жыл бұрын

Right on man!!

@omarinbenz23

Жыл бұрын

Did that fix your issue?

@Krugger71

Жыл бұрын

@@omarinbenz23 it my mistake - I did change the abs but it all came down to putting the anti rattle clip in wrong! But at least I learned a bunch about brake systems!

@omarinbenz23

Жыл бұрын

@@Krugger71 anti rattle clip?

@Krugger71

Жыл бұрын

@@omarinbenz23 on my front caliper there is a metal “U” shaped clip that bolts onto the caliper. It is supposed to apply pressure so that the pads don’t squeal by being compressed against the rotor or rattle with no pressure from the caliper during normal driving.

Thank you for this video!

Great video, thank you...

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

;D

Man thank you for this video I have have been buying parts , busting knuckles and cursing , I'm going to pick up one ... It seems I have the same issues ... Wish me luck

@tagminda4565

3 жыл бұрын

How was it?

People, always check for leaks first. A leak will give the same symptom he had. Especially if you live where salt is used on the roads or where you have heavy amounts of moisture. The lines can rust anywhere and leaks sometimes are hard to find.

All I have to say is great video did all the steps you said and it was 100% abs pump 45bucks later from my local salvage yard different pump installed brakes work great thank you

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

That's great!~~Glad it worked.

Thanks! dude 😎👍

Thanks for making this video. I had the same problem with a 2004 Expedition. After slamming on the brakes in heavy MD traffic, my brake petal just went to the floor. I got towed home since there is no way you can drive this in heavy traffic. I put on a new master cylinder and bled the brakes...but still had the same problem. After watching your video, I searched out the part at a junkyard...since brand new the ABS pump/valves and ABS electronic controller portion add up to $1,900 from Ford...not including labor. I haven't been to a junkyard for 30 years - but it was worth the trip to pick up the entire ABS assembly for $50. It is 3 bolts and quickly cutting several brake lines - in and out in 10 minutes if you plan correctly. You are 100% correct in that you have to match up all the numbers on the two portions of the ABS block. Like your story, I had no ABS light on my dash when having the problem, but after installation of the junkyard ABS block, I get the ABS light and the code of "VIN Mismatch." The only way to get rid of this, as I understand it, is to have a dealer reset this...since cheap readers cannot get into the computer code of this ABS controller. Here's how I solved it...I believed that my problem was with the ABS valves/pump - so I went back under the hood and quickly swapped out the ABS electronic controller (black box) with only the 3 torx screws and the large plug. There is room to do this without taking anything else apart or re-bleeding the brakes...takes 5 minutes. Anyway, this is how I used your video to keep my old Expedition running for $150 (master cylinder, fluid, junkyard ABS) versus a $3,000 dealer charge. Thanks again, and I hope this is helpful to someone else with this same problem.

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

That's Great! Glad it worked for you!!

yeeeees it's fucking work I just swapped from other Hyundai I have and is great I love you my brother you save me a lot headed and money God bless you ✌

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Great! Happy Stopping!!

Thankyou,I have the same problem,replaced master cylinder,now going to try abs module.Been searching for definitive proof of the problem.My best to you.nick

@FixingWithPassion

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!!

I have a 1997 Ford Explorer Limited, 5.0 liter. Same symptoms. Brake pedal hard as a rock with engine off. Brake pedal to the floor with engine on. I searched and studied for days and while Nathan's fix may be exactly what you need, I want to say that my informal search came up with this guess: 20% of issues are ABS (bad device) related and 80% are "air-in-system" related. I bled and bled and bled the system until I fixed my problem and now all is well with my vehicle. 2 quarts of fluid and a grumpy wife who sat in the driver's seat and did the pump-and-hold technique. It may be that a mechanic could have done it much quicker with a special tool and special software on a scan tool, but I am too cheap for that. Thanks, Nathan. I would have gone with your suggestion if bleeding did not work. By the way, there is a youtube video out there where the mechanic used gallons of fluid......

I have a severe sinking brake pedal with drastically reduced stopping power on a 2005 GMC Sierra I recently purchased. Given past ABS WSS and Modulator problems, I pulled the ABS fuse and tried braking again. PERFECT BRAKING!!! So, disabling ABS by pulling the fuse is a major troubleshooting step. ABS modulators are very expensive and so are the controllers. I've had ABS disabled on my 1995 S10 for over 100,000 miles. The ABS modulator would have cost half the value of the truck! The S10 was having momentary total loss of braking, which theoretically should not happen. So much for theory.

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Sometime, I'll try the ABS fuse and see what happens.

@ttiwkram

7 жыл бұрын

Same here, with a 1997 Chevrolet K2500. Total loss of braking function thanks to the ABS, with the pedal going all the way to the floor. I pulled the ABS fuse, and no more problems. GM ABS systems are extremely dangerous.

@aux1z11

5 жыл бұрын

@@ttiwkram I got a 3500 dually with the same problem , I will try it today, one night I came to a red light and the fan belt broke and my brakes has hydro boost that gets its boost from the power steering pump instead of vacuum , i couldn't stop at all , GM brakes suck.

@saltygamer5042

5 жыл бұрын

Just had the same sinking break pedal issue. Lost all breaks pulling into drive way. Pulled the ABS fuze in engine bay. Works perfectly fine now. All breaks returned to normal. 99 chevy blazer 4x4

@Hehakaa

Жыл бұрын

My 1995 is giving me problems

That was informative, Good trouble shooting. My brakes will be normal after 2 or 3 pumps - need to be quick in an emergency!!! I need the car for this week, then it be fixed when I get the $$$. ‘02 Audi A4 3L. - That looked like a 2-3 hour job??? I’ve always felt ABS is a necessary evil.

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Actually maybe 2 hrs....Thanks for Viewing!~

@bobofgloucester

5 жыл бұрын

Funny thing - I let my car to sit for an hour and the brakes were normal. So could be ABS - thanks again! The problem started today when I was stuck in a lot of stop and go traffic.

thank you for the video, having this exact problem with a 2005 BM TROUBLE U x5

Thankkk youuuu same exact problemm

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Let us know if you get it fixed!

The solenoids inside the ABS unit can become stuck open and reroute the fluid back to the master cylinder resulting in moderate to low breaking. They can also stick close resulting in a hard pedal also with medium to low braking. The best fix is to replace it.

@umeshsawant2007

Жыл бұрын

In my case Seems ABS unit Stick Open.. and sends fluid back to master cylinder. if I keep pressing brake padle then it just goes all the way down. But again when I tried to re-perss again it pumps the fluid again and brake works fine (just need to brake suddenly-- if we keep pressing the paddle then it starts sinking eventually)

@GWAYGWAY1

8 ай бұрын

Do you not need to us the ECU computer to open the ABS valves open during bleeding? I need to do this to be able to clear the fluid through the whole system..

Loosen up the caliper bleeder screw when installing new brake pads. Abs module valves are not designed to handle the back pressure when pushing back a caliper piston without releasing the bleeder screw.

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps, but I've never had a issue doing that. But good Idea ;)

I had the exact same symptoms. For some reason I changed the ABS module first, still had a sinking pedal. I then changed the master cylinder, problem fixed. I replaced my original ABS module and luckily I can return the used EBay purchase. A friend/mechanic told me it was the master cylinder. I should have believed him.

Thank you very much sir and God bless you and your family I have same problem on my 05 chrysler town country i change everything brake pads master cylinder I even changed brake booster nothing worked the ABS unit that's the only thing I haven't replaced and I'm very sure after I watch you video the ABS is the problem . Once again thank you sir

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Keep us updated!!

Thanks for sharing! Nice expy too :). I'm having a similar problem w/ my jeep and I didn't even open the brake system and no leaks so I figured it had to be some kind of valve failure somewhere in the ABS or master cylinder. I'm willing to bet it's the same issue. The only concern I have after something like this is it says you need a tech II scanner or whatever to manually control the ABS valves to bleed the system. I don't know exactly how the valves operate, but I would suggest taking it into an area where you can get ABS to kick in to make sure it works properly.

@FixingWithPassion

4 жыл бұрын

Strangely, I've never had to reprogram a ABS system after a swap, ever. But I'm sure there is that "story" out there.

@andrewcheatle4691

4 жыл бұрын

DRB 3 tool. It's xxxxing expensive - even used - on eBay. Not sure any of even the high end aftermarket scanner's have DRB type functions. It's dealer or a good independent Chrysler specialist only who will have one. I heard some say the emergency stop trick followed by another conventional bleed doesn't work in this instance - but maybe still worth a try. You will have a Bendix or Teves mark 4 or a mark 20 system depending on your model year, more recent models I'm not sure about. Let us know how you got/get on with your issue!

@gtl099

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewcheatle4691 I did the emergency stops a dozen times and activated the ABS each time, but did not help.

the new (use) abs module needs to be reprogrammed after install it??

Thanks. Ive bled them 3 times even though i never opened them. ive never had to deal with ABS or the twist compressing rear calipers before . i should have known though. the ABS light was on. i figured it had air in it somehow though. thanks for the video.

Thank you I think I had the same problem on a 2008 Ford Edge going to try that out👍🙏

@FixingWithPassion

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!!

Very interesting i always heard abs wont do that only master or leak. I have seen this issue on many vehicles and i had never seen the root cause

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Internal leak in the ABS unit loosing pressure I guess.

@fernandohernandez-wr9ui

5 жыл бұрын

@@FixingWithPassion that would make sense but school and many other people always said master will b the root cause of soft pedal because abs doesnt control that but wow thats great to know

I have a 98 lumina pedal goes to the floor unless you stomp on it fast and hard. the abs and master cylinder are integrated I don’t see any way to bypass master cylinder or vice versa I guess I’ll check all abs fuses and relays next. Any help or constructive comments?

Outstanding.

Thank you need to check it.

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Why?

- The sinking feeling started when i replaced a used ABS as the original one was leaking. - Next i replaced the master pump but i didnt help. - Today i went to RMW who specializes in brakes and the owner's son took the car for some hard driving and did many emergency brakings and my pedal is hard again. What happened was that air was forced out from the ABS module......... Nissan Cefiro A32 2.0G 1999

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the story!

Wow, excellent video. Great feeling to solve. I'm stumped with a problem like this right now on a MINI Cooper, that popped up immediately after doing the pads/rotors and repairing a displaced boot on the RR caliper. The pedal is now just like the video - even with bleeding all brakes multiple times using both pressure bleeder and two-man method, AND bleeding the ABS module using dealer technician software. It makes no difference. Pedal can be made stiff when car is off but is soft and sinks almost to the floor when running. Could doing that brake work cause master cylinder or ABS module to break?? It can't be possibly be air in the line, we bled so many times; we used 4-5 bottles. Anyone have any ideas??

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

ABS module can go bad anytime. Just a small piece of dirt can mass it up inside. ABS module can fail without any warning causing a sinking pedal. But make sure all air is gone in the lines. That's all you can do at this point.

@bencrosbie

5 жыл бұрын

My girlfriends car has the exact same problem its a cooper r50 1.6 it did have the abs light on and a slack pedal but I replaced the abs module and the abs light is gone after a short drive but still having a slack brake pedal when the car is running and bled numerous of times the pads and discs are top notch and I dont see any leak whatso ever. The fluid level never dropped since. But might concider replacing the master cylinder and hope for the best.

@majurbludd

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe the mini cooper has to be auto bleed through the software. Gm vehicles are that way

@taylorclark6927

5 жыл бұрын

Mod MINI hey man I’m just wondering if you ever solved this issue... I got it.. on a r50 that I’ve just put an r53 engine in and replaced callipers master cylinder, servo, new abs unit, I’ve just paid for the dealership software and a laptop and a set of Ecu’s from a donor car, only 200 for the lot but still, I’m running out of options, heard it’s abs airlock surely working the abs while bleeding the system will get the air out the system? Hope you see this, you know your shit 😀

@holmes1956O

4 жыл бұрын

Taylor Clark my 2003 silverado is doing a similar thing (spongy) petal I am just going to bypass the abs altogether i will put a manual proportioning valve in. I dont need abs I learned to drive without it years ago and never use it anyway

Having this issue now bout to test the abs pump and if that is what it is changing it out. Thus video has helped. Thank you sir

Tanks am going to try it

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Great!

Apparently this is a common Ford issue (Ford has a lot of those). I had the same issue with a Ford F350 recently. No way to stiffen up the pedal.

@FixingWithPassion

4 жыл бұрын

True!

I had the same issue on a 2001 FORD ClubWagon. $800 from the dealer! My local wrecking yard only charged me $25 for a good used one.

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Good deal!~

Thanks. Lots of good information and advice.

@FixingWithPassion

6 күн бұрын

Nice!!

Thank you Sir! That was great, I have the same problem and did test already and then I sa w your video. On a hunt for a used abs pump now. God Bless You!

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Happy Fixing!~

@118chosen9

5 жыл бұрын

Nathan Rohrbough I replaced the hcu module with one from a low mileage car from the salvage yard. My cousin works in parts for a Ford dealership and made sure the part was right. I replaced it and that went really smooth. Problem is I now have and abs and traction control light on that I didn't have before along with the same fading pedal I had before...wth? I'm out of ideas.

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Check wires.

@Biancorp

5 жыл бұрын

@@118chosen9 Yes, wires or fuse. That's what happens if you pull the fuse in my 09 Escape (both lights)

would it be air in the abs pump somehow? Factory or dealer have special ways or equipment to do abs bleed.

@michaeldavis4746

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it can be air in the ABS assembly but to flush all the rust, dirt, crud and especially copper in solution coming from the inside of the brake lines. This copper acts to corrode parts in the ABS actuating pistons and their sleeves and brake caliper/slave pistons and sleeves. The bottom line is that all replaceable fluids in the car/truck need to be replaced to prevent this corrosion as ongoing scheduled maintenance. And the reason I am saying this is because whether it is brake fluid, engine coolant, engine oil, transmission fluid, or rear end pumpkin , they all contain special additives that protect metal and rubber parts. Seal Softeners, Corrosion Inhibitors, PH stabilizers, and in the case of coolant the special additive that prevents cavitation and stripping of small chunks of metal from the coolant passages. These additives DEPLETE after one year. I know some carmakers say that it has lifetime brake fluid. IMHO this is their Marketing Department getting in the way of good engineering practice. So that they can sell longer intervals for maintenance and "lower costs" at the time of new sale. This simply does not make sense given the fact that literally, millions of calipers and brake pulse units (HCU's) have to be replaced every year. You will need to full flush it and use a scan tool and procedure to operate the twelve ABS solenoids. I hope this helps someone!

Great video. I think I have the same problem in 2003 Ford Focus. Made hard stop on Freeway and then pedal almost to the floor. Just replaced MC about 6 months ago. Can be bad, but should last longer than 6 month. You mention that you re-worked the brake lines going to ABS " Blocking off the master cylinder" to check if MC was still good and determine it was the ABS pump. How did you actually do that? The two brake lines that go into my MC both go to the ABS pump. How do I block off the MC to confirm hard brake pedal and good MC

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

I took two old lines and just bent them and took a hammer crimped them on the ends (say maybe 3" long) And plugged the master cylinder that way. Seems to work pretty good. Hard pedal good master cylinder.

Nice troubleshooting kind sir!

I am having the same problem with my 04 avalanche. Will definitely give that a try.

@FixingWithPassion

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!!

I was telling my wife yesterday that I am about to destroy my Tahoe. I've replaced every possible brake part except the ABS. I hope this does it!

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Bingo! Let hope it works.

@SolidBased

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I’ve put two in and still fkn spongy but replaced cause they were dragging 🤷‍♂️, also, new caliper, booster, brake line lol, so thinking one of the parts has to be fkd up I got used? I’m gunna bleed each wheel tomorrow? After that might be Molotov time!

I'm about to try this fix too. After having my brakes go out and nearly falling off a mountain, then 3 trips to a brake shop, new calipers, rotors, master cylinder, and the softness returns after a few days, I REAAAALLY hope this works.

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

I know It will :) keep us updated!

@sailordba2085

6 жыл бұрын

its a poltergiest. any sounds from the mirror?

@sirsweetness8332

6 жыл бұрын

Hitched Sweet Home Did it work?

This video gives me new hope on my issue😊

@FixingWithPassion

10 ай бұрын

Nice!!!

@Nathan Rohrbough. Hi Nathan. My grandson's 2003 Blazer LS needed the rear axle bearings & seals, Fixed that & the brakes worked fine on the way to the garage where we performed the work. I called him, he picked it up & went home. He sent a txt an hour later to tell me his brakes went out. I got a ride to look at it & although there wasn't any fluid leaking on the driveway, I started looking real close around by the proportioning valve & master cylinder area. The Blazer is originally from Ontario, Canada. So I have no clue who it was that replaced all the brake lines but whomever it was, they/he/she just decided, instead of removing all the original line's. all that was done was they clipped the ends off & ran new lines along side of the old lines. So I already found the leak. One of the old line had been rubbing along side the new line. That was why the ABS Warning Light was on for the past 3 week, which I was told. I can already see 2 other lines that I should just replace because they also look bad. This takes care of the ''No Brakes Issue''. Now instead of letting him & the guy who's gonna buy it go the cheap route, I'm going to replace the emergency/parking Brake's so there's no more surprises further down the road. These are actually able to stop this vehicle while driving, if the brakes fail. I just wanted to leave this comment so anyone who is reading this, if you notice that the Emergency Brakes are shot, get whatever it takes to get them operational. Also if you,or if you have children or grandchildren who's vehicle has had the ABS Warning Light On, like all the time, now you can explain why it's good to mention it to someone who knows a little bit more about cars & trucks because the brakes could have went out while he was driving on the freeway, while on the way to his girlfriends, which is 34 miles away in Detroit. Great video by the way...

Something like that happened to me some time ago after replacing pads and rotors. I went to a gravel road and actuated the ABS several times. I dont know how, but i had introduced air on the pump, and it was a bitch to bleed. But it worked, stiffer pedal after actuating it and bleeding. I did it a couple more times (actuate ABS + bleed) and eventually it got stiff as a rock.

@FixingWithPassion

7 жыл бұрын

Nice!!

@fairbornCCF

2 жыл бұрын

How were you actuating the abs? Also were you bleeding at the master cylinder or the wheels?

Instead of changing ABS module, did try bleeding the ABS module first? I have some videos where air pocket was struck in abs module.

@steveandrews8301

2 ай бұрын

Can you post one of your video links here on how to do that? I'd like to see you channel. Thanks!

Same sinking brake pedal to the floor at traffic lights experience on 2009 i30 at 160000 klms. No leaks, no swollen hoses and no air in lines. Same as you, I changed the master cylinder and bled, no different. Your video made me suspect of the ABS pump has an internal leak but Hyundai quoted $10k for OEM part which would be a mechanical write off. Sought ABS from the wreckers at $120 delivered, (bugger to swap out due to location) and bled system again. Success! The pedal now firm and hard as a rock at the lights. Pro tip, after first bleed, drive the car on grass and brake hard to cycle the ABS pump 5 or 6 times to purge any micro airbubbles and then bleed again. FD series i30 responds well to old school gravity bleeding with no fancy vacuum, pressure or OBD2 scan tool auto bleeds needed with the above trick. ABS pump is not VIN coded to the ECU so no need for any other OBD2 intervention orher than mechanical replacement. I hope this helps guys as it sure kept me up late at nights seeking answers

@FixingWithPassion

18 күн бұрын

Nice! Thanks for sharing this story!

Same problem on my 2005 Ford Focus. Brakes got like this straight after one ABS event. Then went away on its own after some time. Now 1 yr later, just happened again after an ABS event! See Ford/Mazda had a pending recall for this issue in the mid 2000s...

Thank you for this extremely informative video. My brakes work fine until this snow storm tonight, where suddenly I had this happen. Once I parked on dry driveway the brakes seemed to work again but it feels a bit like it did an hour earlier when I was driving on snow. Last summer a mechanic replaced the ABS controllers. The warranty is 1 year or 12,000 miles. Both of which I am well under. Is this ABS controller what is making this spongy brake issue? If it is then the mechanic will replace it for free. Or is it something else you are referring to. Thank you.

@FixingWithPassion

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!!

@rilenixx

3 жыл бұрын

@@FixingWithPassion Do you think that is the cause? The ABS controllers? I am not that familiar with cars. All I know is brakes work fine until we had a snow storm tonight and suddenly this spongy brake thing happened. Weird. I appreciate the feedback. Thank you so much..

Thanks mate, I was about to burn my car. you have saved my life. XD

@jtadams101

5 жыл бұрын

I was telling my wife yesterday that I am about to destroy my Tahoe. I've replaced every possible brake part except the ABS. I hope this does it!

@Eddie-kd1ei

5 жыл бұрын

@@jtadams101 any updates on the tahoe abs replacement?

@m7ewes

3 жыл бұрын

JT Adams Any update in your tahoe

Yes I had the same problem with a 2008 ranger . just about pulled my hair out. Got a used abs pump and it was bad also. Got a replacement and worked fine. What a pita.

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

But hey, you got it fixed!~

My wife's Nissan Pathfinder 2014 has the same thing happening intermittently. We even took it to the stealership once and although they bled the system it still happens. Just happened yesterday on our way home from OC. Maryland. Thanks- now I know what to look for since the brakes were just replaced 10,000 miles ago.

@ThatBeardedGuy69

2 ай бұрын

Was it the abs?

@project-5724

Ай бұрын

@@ThatBeardedGuy69 Not sure. It's our backup vehicle now - we don't drive it much.

ABS systems have all the same problems as non ABS systems, so laymen should be self-conscious enough to NOT treat ABS superstitiously. ABS systems ALSO have one additional potential problem that non-ABS systems do not have: namely the ABS modulator itself. It is very similar to a master cylinder and, like a master cylinder, can get bubbles in it and then must be bled. BUT bleeding the ABS unit requires special software allowing the mechanic to open each individual line separately - which is normally impossible. SO: if you are having symptoms similar to bubbles in the master cylinder, but you have already bled or replaced the master cylinder, then your next suspect is the ABS modulator. Factory trained mechanics rarely see this, and are trained to look elsewhere (ahem! [master cylinder]). So you may have to force your factory trained tech to read up in it and learn how to download the software and put it to good use.

Great video and suggestion on the sinking pedal syndrome (after doing all the regular items: master cylinder, new fluid, bleeding, etc .... ) Thanks for posting this. I do have a question: When this phenomena was present in your vehicle, did you have any ABS faults or ABS warning light coming on? And, secondly, did the ABS module still modulate (buzz the brakes) when braking on a slippery surface? I have this sinking pedal syndrome - did all the items listed above and, just like you, it helped for a little while and then the pedal started sinking again. I have no ABS light on the dash and my ABS modulates/pulses/buzzes when I brake on a slippery surface (like it is doing it's job).

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

No. I had no abs light not even a blink! No buzzing no noises. Your buzzing is probably how that ABS pump is manufactured with some kind of default system. My abs system worked when I slammed on the brakes in mud or snow...But slowly went south no matter how much I pumped them up.

Thank you!!!

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@FixingWithPassion

5 жыл бұрын

Word!~

I’m having the same issue. In fact I have all the parts this morning to put on! Pads, rotors, calipers! I don’t know exactly what you mean about rerouting the line but when my nephew finally gets up I will have him watch your video to show me. Lol. I have poured so much money into this truck, we already figured it was the abs but wanted to make sure it wasn’t something else first. “Hoping” Thanks for the video!

@FixingWithPassion

6 жыл бұрын

Just bench bleed the master cylinder to get the air out when you put the new one on.