Back in the day, I had a terrible computer, so I knew exactly when they made singleplayer run on a local server, because I was lagging even when playing singleplayer. For example, after I broke a block, it took some time to actually drop the block on the ground and fighting mobs was sometimes impossible as they would just teleport around and I was really mad about it.

@ArthurVoidwatcher

7 ай бұрын

don't play terraria mostly multiplayer example mobs go through blocks

@itsarian.

7 ай бұрын

what about all the lighting issues?

@kirbythepinkguy

7 ай бұрын

@@itsarian. Minecraft lighting was never perfect

@gn2b445

6 ай бұрын

i knew because it says so in the F3 menu

It's a shame that bedrock is basically a mobile game with console/PC ports and not a better java version They could've rewritten the code on a more efficient language, fix the bugs, and we would be happy Instead bedrock is such a different experience with many different bugs from java that you have to pick your poison

@neoqwerty

7 ай бұрын

Honestly Bedrock is kind of better than vanilla java, simply because it has the Education Edition blocks in it. (If you've never used those, do it, it's fantastic in a nerdy way)

@arie1906

7 ай бұрын

Minecraft Oxide Edition (Rust)

@arie1906

7 ай бұрын

Idk, the problem is not just this vs that... Such problem caused by external changes, to reproduce the bug and having them fixed is not just as easy as pointing out the causes. Due to desynchronization, the bugs will stay there regardless of bug fixings. Beside, what did you expect thing to run normally on a high requested engine on a low-end computing device like console? and how C++ having risk of mistakenly leaking memory and safety issues.

@arie1906

7 ай бұрын

So, my experience on Bedrock was enjoyable. Not as extendable as Java but they worked great for me, my computer is mid-end so I have no trouble dealing with annoying bugs (which technically should be called glichs?) happens randomly for over 3 years and 8 years on my old phone.

@noxmore

7 ай бұрын

There are a few things java has that can't be replicated in c++, for example, modern modding APIs like fabric allows you to inject your own code into any method in the game, which is probably the most powerful modding tool a modder can have, as it allows for great mod compatibility while allowing almost infinite extensibility. That being said, if they made a full modding API for bedrock/made the source code public along with this it would've been probably better then java.

Combine that with terrible optimisation and you get a game which needs a whole update with no features and just bug fixes and optimisation improvements

I started noticing the internal server conundrum when I went for the aquatic update. I always wondered why minecraft chugged sometimes but when I got that update, something happened... KELP HAPPENED. I'm not kidding you, going near a kelp forest in Minecraft is like a death sentence for the internal server and I don't know why, my guess is that the kelp has lots of growing ticks. It's a shame they don't focus in this kind of back-end stuff, and I bet it's because they don't really care about developing java anymore, it's more of a Minecraft version that tags along their actual money maker (bedrock, and yes, it is their money maker because it's on mobile).

Imagine having good updates. Good times back then

@user-yu9ih6bq5m

7 ай бұрын

We do still have good updates it's just that they get released in the time were mojass(mojang) is in consiversy or they have one bad change that makes the whole update ass

@joenoodle6914

7 ай бұрын

@@user-yu9ih6bq5m 1.20 wasn't a good update lmao

@AbiHurry

7 ай бұрын

all updates after 1.9 or after 1.16 was bad@@joenoodle6914

@Deathgrips_fan

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-yu9ih6bq5m1.20 isnt a good update lmao

@Artcat932

7 ай бұрын

istg the Minecraft community has become so spoilt by the constant updates anything that doesn’t completely revamp some aspect of the game is immediately “bad”

For your final note there, at this point I consider Java and bedrock Minecraft to be completely different versions. And it is insane how they are doing things like ruining a unique mechanic of copper bulbs on Java for the sake of parity when they won't do changes that might literally be just a few lines of code, for instance making fishing rods on Java not being less durable than wet paper (literally it's around 50-60 on Java when it's over 300 on bedrock), and making cakes stackable on Java. Somehow the only simple parity changes I can think of ARE making Java like bedrock because these are genuinely good things. Also note that in bedrock you can close the elytra by just jumping again, and that's also another good example of parity that WOULD be good-

@arie1906

7 ай бұрын

You cannot close your elytra by jumping on Java?

@badchukun

7 ай бұрын

ngl i dont think Mojang cares about Java anymore its not making them money its Bedrock that makes them the money

@chrono9503

7 ай бұрын

Hold on, you can't close the elytra on Java??????

@aminatandour589

7 ай бұрын

You have to land to do so. @@chrono9503

@aminatandour589

7 ай бұрын

it is making them money, but mostly through content creators. if they cut java, then Minecraft. would actually die out, which is why the didn’t, for obvious reasons.@@badchukun

1.9 pvp update was great now I don’t need to break my mouse to kill a mob

@SamiTheAnxiousBean

7 ай бұрын

post 1.9 is objectively a better and actually skill based combat system, i dont understand the wineing from other people

@_thomas

7 ай бұрын

After some time getting used to it, I quite like the new system too! But the community feedback was crazy, and it's insane that the biggest server still uses a PvP style that hasn't been in the game for nearly 8 years...!

@HuntingKingYT

7 ай бұрын

@@SamiTheAnxiousBean 1.8 does have skill as well, just another skill

@neoqwerty

7 ай бұрын

@@HuntingKingYT The skill of furious button mashing is dying (and so is the carpal tunnel syndrome it causes, RIP to all the people who now have to wear wrist braces because they played bedwars without the Combat Update)

@Cat-jr8oe

7 ай бұрын

1.8 better for mini games, 1.9+ better for more survival based servers imo.

You know, I kept wondering why I stopped playing Minecraft, but now it brings it all to the forefront. It didn't FEEL right, because it WASN'T right. I kept thinking something was wrong with my computer, but no, it was Minecraft itself.

@waterbucket4358

7 ай бұрын

Its something wrong with ur pc if u cant run mc

@Ultrazaubererger

6 ай бұрын

@@waterbucket4358 While vanilla Minecraft isn't hard on the GPU, it needs a good CPU to run well. Many people use older PCs with cheap CPUs.

@Sivanot

2 ай бұрын

@@waterbucket4358 MInecraft is a massive heap of spaghetti code. It has garbage optimization, the statement you just made implies you have no idea how much work Minecraft puts on your computer.

even in singleplayer im not safe from server lag....

Idk about Java but as a console scrub Bedrock on PS4 has gotten so unbearable with these problems that it ruins the game. Constant lag and inconsistent fps caused by autosave that can't be turned off. That and for whatever reason the fact they've decided to not allow for a pause button in singleplayer nor the ability to exit without saving

@stevecarter8810

6 ай бұрын

Omg exit without saving would be awesome

99 bugs in the lines of the code 99 bugs in the code, take one down, patch it out, 115 bugs in the code.

They should be working on slowly fixing parity issues in Bedrock and Java and slowly making them more and more compatible, but instead, we have the more and more seperated every update.

@alejo1003ful

7 ай бұрын

si, es como que "bruh, dejen de agregar cosas, estan haciendo mas dificil arreglarlo" y "dejen de pensar en vender cada actualizacion, ya tienen demasiadas cosas, solo centrense en corregir errores por unas 4 o 5 actualizaciones y hablen de como estan arreglando el juego para que sea jugable, veran cuanta gente realmente ama el juego con solo ver que el juego volvera a ser jugable y no un compendio de errores que hacen imposible jugarlo si no tienes una pc tan cara que solo el 1% de la poblacion mundial pueda pagarlo"

im a bedrock player and theres no multiplayer/singleplayer option at all. Just 'play'. You can turn on and off multiplayer in a world, but it just makes it so that people can't join your world. Also I dont even have java on my laptop, only bedrock, so i had no idea the title screens were so different.

as a partial bedrock player I get angry whenever i pause the game and the game doesnt freeze

On the one hand, the "Modding API" thing was added for bedrock players... on the other hand, it costs real money, the content sucks, and there's no consumer protection. I much prefer the confusion of Java modloaders and compatibility issues over bedrock's mobile themed hell-hole that is the marketplace.

@arie1906

7 ай бұрын

well, half-true... It does exist outside the marketplace, like really really outside the marketplace. The community is not big as java but they are talented, and dont get me started with the Chinese and Japanese. Why do people get so mad about the marketplace, it's the marketplace... where you scam childrens for their parents money.

I managed to get so much latency that the mobs began lagging like a player with very high ping

pro solution, fine some way to break bugs to force Minecraft to fix them, like the bug with water at night being way to bright, abuse it in some multiplayer game yes you will get banned from that server but it proves a point that something is wrong; internally, on both the client, and the server.

You didn't even mention the new creative mode inventory! That was my favorite feature when it came out, i mostly played in creative mode around then, and searching through the old creative model inventory was draining my life away faster then i liked. (Not to mention that fact that to view your actual inventory you needed to open a container) I was also quite happy with the client-server join for mods. Just like Minecraft itself, mods had to have both a client and server version, and Thaumcraft, one of my favorite mods of all time only had a client version. Was very pleased when i got to finally play it with friends

i love how the information is put in the video! great job!

1.3 was also the update you could open your world to LAN IIRC, so idk how they could keep the old singleplayer whilst allowing local multiplayer.

@_thomas

7 ай бұрын

Correct! I do mention that in the video

@QueueWithACapitalQ

7 ай бұрын

@@_thomas yeah i didnt get to that part yet when i commented

i love the /killdante refernce at 3:30

Idk, maybe they should work on actualy fixing the parity issues and thousands of bugs like they did once in 1.15, which literaly made 1.16 as fast as 1.12...

I've seen a Video about all the different modloaders today and why it is so chaotic right now with quilt and neoforge entering the arena. And a minecraft mod api would be soooo great, it would open the door for so many cool features and would make playing with mods a lot less painful, for the creators and the players.

2:00 As a fan of both TGWaffles & Thomas & Friends, that joke actually got me a little bit

Thomas: “Do you know what else should be in your inventory?” Me: MY MOM!

The players were complaining and complaining as Mojang stared them down and said, “Nah I’d win”

Thomas the tank engine existed way before you, in 1845

@_thomas

7 ай бұрын

shhhh

@FunAngelo2005

7 ай бұрын

@@_thomas "shut up":said Thomas

2:36 aaaand this is how Nintendo does many of their Multiplayer Games on Nintendo Switch. Super Smash Bros. for example. the input delay varies so much its frustrating. combined with P2P connection and lack of deticated servers... well, yikes

Another day of thinking that although it was a bad decision going into cyber security, i wasn't as bad as those masochists who chose to be game devs

wait mob shadows are bugs they have been in the game so long I thought it was a feature also one bug must stay TNT duping

So THAT why I sometimes cant block skeleton arrows with shield in singleplayer...

A couple years ago I started using my old PC to host a minecraft server and would connect to it with my current PC via LAN. It resulted in me experiencing essentially zero lag and was a far better experience than playing the game in normal singleplayer mode; it's sad that you need to go to such lengths to get an actual lag-free singleplayer experience from Minecraft

This has really messed up my experience with modding, my game runs perfectly fine, well over 100 fps, yet it freezes up, I get rubberbaneded, blocks dont drop/break. Just wish my single player world was actually single player and not deemed a "server" unless I want to make it LAN, that would be the only time I would accept that kind of problems. Really hope one day mods can somehow fix this (if it can be fixed, havent watched the video yet. But this has always been the biggest irritation with minecraft for me.)

@callmenose

7 ай бұрын

if you use fabric, you can use lithium, and possibly c2me (concurrent chunk management engine), lithium helps server performance greatly, and c2me makes chunk gen multithreaded even more, some would say properly, both would help the internal server freeze less

@stevecarter8810

6 ай бұрын

A well written local client server should be invisible to you

good video that expains why my blocks dont break and the item drops slowly even though i put like 30GB ram on mc trying to fix it, it also helps me understand what exactly a packet is

@neoqwerty

7 ай бұрын

If you're playing on a java version before 1.20x, INSTALL LITHIUM AND STARLIGHT. Seriously, I cannot overstate how much these two mods do to make even a potato capable of running a stable singleplayer instance and minimizing the lag. (if you're after 1.20x, then just Lithium will do, 1.20x overhauled a lot of the rendering engine in vanilla so you only need Starlight for the most ultrapotato of machines) Even just Lithium on its own works wonders.

@KamiNoBaka1

7 ай бұрын

I mean there's also the issue with Java where if you allocate too much memory it actually causes problems. Even the biggest modpacks should only need about 12-16 GB of memory.

They should have kept the 2 code bases

@fosminclorin

7 ай бұрын

But now they have to deal with Bedrock, too

@arie1906

7 ай бұрын

​@@fosminclorinthen that made it 4 codebases

@ireallydontknowifiamhonest

7 ай бұрын

@@arie1906 it’s likely even more considering that they are probably also on separate repos for the console and the mobile versions of bedrock edition (excluding xbox)

@happygofishing

7 ай бұрын

trust me as someone thats programmed client server and singleplayer only games, this would be an INSANE amount of work for little to no reward.

The old gravel was better

It has been years and the ghast still does not squash when firing a fireball... please mojang,,,

I saw the thumbnail and got scared about a more recent bug in the game that could corrupt singleplayer worlds, but it turns out to be this lol.

mojang: no :) like they don't care about performance or solutions to their problems

"Lower end machines" *pulls out a calculator*

And now servers spawn items in your inventory to reduce lag.

I see you fail to mention anything regarding the development perspective. If they had continued seperate sp and mp versions, they would be coding 6 different games. Updates would take twice as long possibly. Also, an internal server is, well, internal. They run on your own PC. As such its not possible for distance from the server to make a difference, because you cant chop a computer in half. This makes latency negligible most of the time.

7:38-7:42 I'm confused by this part. I genuinely can't tell the difference between the two.

As a mc veteran who has played mc since it was launched on console, after those updates and bugs made me immediately leave minecraft after mc bedrock was introduced to console instead of legacy version was this, I literally prefer playing 3rd person in bedrock because IT IS A MENACE AND ANNOYING

if multiplayer and singleplayer were 2 different versions combined with bedrock, that would make there be 4 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF MINECRAFT

now I have at least some understanding of Minecraft mechanics thanks for the video . It was quite a informative .

10:27 I really believed KZread captions

the technical parts are very well explained! nice metaphors

Players: all this Mojank: we rewrote the (perfectly ok) terrain generator with no thought for what it would do to your legacy worlds!

i want the old hurt angle back

Meanwhile I'm playing Beta 1.7.3 in single player and not worrying about any of this.

4:40 which is why minecraft today takes so much resources for like no reason...because it has too run two things at once...its like your constantly running a multiplayer server

I like how u changed the title and instantly the youtube algothrithm picks it up.

this actually explains quite a lot about why the game is always so buggy

I think many, if not all, desync and similar issues could be fixed just by increasing the tick rate. 20 TPS is actually pretty bad as each update can only happen after 50 milliseconds. This might sound alright until you realize that playing in 20FPS is not that good as in 60. In some cases 20FPS is basically unplayable. Increasing the TPS could resolve many multiplayer bugs as each update can happen faster which would finally make high level efficiency tools usable.

if only mojang would make it so the server and client go on the same tick.

3:57 explains why thare is entity's in my world 💀 HELP

Could someone please tell me what this list of versions ofMinecraft is. Is it a website or a video montage? I'm missing some place where everything is briefly described. 0:16

10:30 and now microsoft want to banish modding community

This video felt more like a roast to bedrock players than a roast to mojang

Its incredible how java 1.6.4 or around that are some of the best mc is You had good mods too

i hate the part that It has to load chunks and i just want to play

lol the /killdante reference earned my subscription

2:50 remember the crt

there is a official modding api in minecraft just only in china edition

does anyone know of any actually good solutions for this issue?

Fun fact: the first multiplayer was developed by the community

And the most main question. This thing with internal server can be disabled? I very want to play without it

@n646n

7 ай бұрын

If you actually watched the video and paid attention, you'd know it cannot be.

@michaelmire

7 ай бұрын

@@n646n eh, this is sad. And about my attention, I'm not very well in English

What site is it on 8:20?

Bedrock games are always running on an internal server so your Xbox live friends can just join.

in bedrock is the same thing, i was playing "singleplayer" and i placed a block and it didn't placed where i clicked, so it affects bedrock too, and it's not only that, whe you are in the water and a horse is there, when you bring the horse to the terrain and you mount it, your gonna be tp to the water again, it is so annoying, i died so many times because of drowning in a wall it is so annoying!!! sorry guys, english isn't my first language soooo sorry for the mistakes lol

Alright I’ll admit that subscribe plug got me

SO MUCH TIMES BECUSE OF MY BAD WIFI I WAS LAGGING ON A SINGLE PLAYER WOORLS. Sorry, my true anger has been shown. Happy Holidays.

@madbruv

7 ай бұрын

Wifi is not used while playing singleplayer minecraft, the server is on ur device, amd the client(the game you play) is also on ur device

1.2.5 will always stay the best version in my eyes

Hey bedrock players! TGWaffles really wanted to end this video on a positive note.

9.11K subs… he’s getting there..!

Wow I thought all these bugs were just features at this point 🤣

@alejo1003ful

7 ай бұрын

"it just works"

and that's why i don't play on my switch anymore

addons in bedrock sound like the modding API

0:16 what is that site

Good video!!!

Amazing video!!!

version 1.9 was the most controversial, but personally for me one of the best updates.

3:30 haha funny dante reference

7:18 bro is playing on a calculator 💀

The Devs are just lazy

8:12 Oh GOSH there are shawdows at night!! Absolut unplayable game LOL

What about bedrock edition?

Thomas, I think Thomas the tank engine had your name before you did ngl

@artificialair

7 ай бұрын

Prove it.

@Capiosus

7 ай бұрын

cap

@IGUBWTIGBSigtiuhsifbh

7 ай бұрын

fr gotta be stolen valor or smth

and this is why some consider minecraft (especially after modding it) a PC performance tester lol

modding api? bruh, 1.2.5 moddingg was the _shit_ it was super fucking cool. feed the beast ssp KILLED back in the day

That`s why when even i play myself i run a server because minecraft is single threaded lol.

So that’s why hypixel is so laggy

@madbruv

7 ай бұрын

??? What does hypixel have to do with anything? This is about singleplayer creating a server when you play offline.

Sorry, does this apply to Bedrock edition? I mean, I’m guessing not because you’ve only talked about computer problems, but I just want to make sure.

@андрей_свиридов

7 ай бұрын

Yes, yes it does. On bedrock you can't even fully pause the game. And if you start Bedrock in a sandbox environment and disallow it to create local servers you wouldn't be able to join the world. It would infinitely hold you on joining world screen while reporting an IPv4 error in the debug command promt window. Internal server errors are quite known to appear on Nintendo Switch port of Bedrock Edition.

@happygofishing

7 ай бұрын

yes bedrock also uses client server architecture even in "singleplayer".

so thats why my server runs like ass

I guess the lesson is to go back to beta 1.7.3 like all those people are doing

10.4k subs

maintain a single version my ass why do java and bedrock exist then

when Thomas uploads, you know it's gonna be a good day 🔥

one of the reasons i play beta 1.7.3, that still has true singleplayer