Getting ready to do a turbo upgrade on my 335i, I can listen to you talk about N54 turbos for hours

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

Exciting dude! What setup are you thinking of going with?

@christianr.137

2 жыл бұрын

Nice bro I personally went with DAW stage 2+ back in 2019 and they’re still running strong! I’ve heard their Flow Max turbos are no joke. If I ever have to do turbos again I’ll go with the flow max +

@mjhahmak

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals Still undecided!! I'm going to do all the work myself, and I'm budgeting 2500-3000 for everything. So I need the turbos, the install kit with hardware, inlets, outlets, and new fluids. 07 E92 335i MT currently running catless DPs, charge pipe + BOV, DCI, single mass flywheel + stage 2 clutch, 5 in intercooler, and a fresh walnut blast!!! Any suggestions are appreciated!!

@coryheat1025

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjhahmak csf radiator & oil cooler , high pressure fuel pump , & that racewerks ignition upgrade before the turbos and ur good. id also say depending on your milage some preventative maintenance as well like bearings/serpentine

@mjhahmak

2 жыл бұрын

@@coryheat1025 Thank you for the tips! I'm at 140k, I replaced my serpentine belt 10k miles ago. Are you referring to the rod bearings that should be replaced?

Pure 600 is very reliable. I have this turbo for over a year now . Around 500hp, power delivery is perfect for NYC traffic.

@phiz4842

Жыл бұрын

you spent $5k for some twins to make around the same power MHD stage 2+ e40 makes? why spend that much to just go up 50hp?

@335ibimmer10

Жыл бұрын

Down pipes and intercooler with a tune and your movin

@phiz4842

Жыл бұрын

@@335ibimmer10 Literally on Stocks at that😂Why spend $5k on twins for “around 500” when you can get a single turbo kit an be “around 500” and 700 anytime you wanted 😂🤦🏽

@roomtempcereal

11 ай бұрын

@@phiz4842yeah but he’s paying for the reliability. There are lots of problems with the stock turbos and the waste gates.

@phiz4842

11 ай бұрын

@@roomtempcereal huuuuuuuhh???? You wanna talk about reliability but go with something that has yet to ever hit 50k miles😂Stock turbos can easily go up to 200-250k miles if driven considerably

Dude, I bought my 335 last year, your videos played a part in that and still are today. Thanks for taking the time to make this content and being a what appears to be a decent guy - cheers.

@saintily

Жыл бұрын

same here man

@billyguevara5392

Жыл бұрын

preach!

A wonderful video Christian with quality information for people to use to make an upgrade choice that meets their needs. Great to see you in a new video. Best wishes brother!

I do full engineering and I enjoy working on cars even when something blows I’ll be glad to take it apart and put it together. Long story short I’ll make my own turbo kits cause I’m learning fabrication. I enjoy what I do.

Pushing me more and more towards the n54 twin loving the vids

Your videos always have great content for the n54s bro, always something to learn.😁

Bro I appreciate videos like this.. straight to the point and it helps us gauge what we really want out of our cars.. keep it up bro your awesome

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

👊🏼

Great video brother, always a pleasure watching and following your content. Keep up the good work ! 👍

best n54 youtuber here! best advice ever man i really appreciate it

I'm running MMP stage 3's and absolutely love them, have about 15k on them so far and power delivery is like butter at the movies

@silverarrowgaming1077

2 жыл бұрын

You eat butter at the movies?

@PBreezyify

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverarrowgaming1077 Here in America we are given sticks of butter as we enter the movie theatre.

I think CES solution is the best of both world. It’s bottom mount so it keeps the heat away from the top of the motor and exhaust pulses are splits up from the exhaust manifold to the turbo so that means the turbo will spool closer/closest to the stock turbos compared to any single turbo kit.

Ain’t nothing better to end the day by watching vehicle vitals and drinking a pepsi to watch more N54 content

Great breakdown bruh. Appreciate the honest straight up personal experience. I still can't decide thought lol. My stockers are on their last leg leaking oil from the center section and rattle is getting louder. But man being honest with yourself is the hardest part. I always wanna go full send but my wife still drives the car lol.

@VehicleVirals

Жыл бұрын

We sell both options. Whenever you decide, shoot us an email and we can help

Id like to see an extreme budget build car using some 17ts and cheap parts to see how it all handles and maybe try different companies because some companies sell similar parts as other but better quality and since youre probably the #1 youtuber for the n54 platform its probably free content and you could double profit and give good info at the same time. Not tryna be pushy and tell you ehat to do but its something i thought about randomly

Great, video man! Love your channel.

I get that there rare varying experiences with the Vargas kits, but here's mine. In 2018 I flew from Miami to Denver sight unseen to pick up a very conservatively tuned manual transmission 2010 535i Touring with Vargas Stage 1s already installed and drove it home. I've completed the modifications you'd expect with these turbos and have dyno'd 489 whp and GPS'd 177mph on alligator alley. This is looks like a soccer-mom car and is my daily for work, but the Vargas Stage 1s now have 54k miles on them with no issue. I'm torn on what to do when these turbos do expire, as I'd like another 50-100+ hp, but don't want to start tearing through the original xDrive components if I don't have to.

If you do the eBay twins make sure to go with Viv, 1 year warranty, good customer service and they actually pay attention to feedback and make adjustments accordingly. Recently Turbo Labs America did a review critiquing some of their flaws and Viv corrected those issues. 11 blade 19Ts rip at even 20psi

@johnwawryk4336

2 жыл бұрын

Can you post me a link man?

@phiz4842

Жыл бұрын

pfff yea but theyre good for what? 7000 miles? 10,000 if youre lucky?

@abelucious

Жыл бұрын

I've had the 11 blade 19Ts from VIV for a year now, have been awesome.

@RedDotCityx2

Жыл бұрын

@@abeluciousyea but how many miles did you put on them over the year timespan? Just curious

@abelucious

Жыл бұрын

@@RedDotCityx2 about 7000 km, I guess around 4000 miles

Lovely video….clear, no bs, no silly long intro and on point. Thank you ! I got pure ST2 for my 1M🙂

Please make a specific sound compilation for the single turbo 3, and both upgraded twin 335s

This video couldn't have come at a better time

Awesome video great information I use in school

finally sth worth to watch today. i am looking for a bmw 525i e39 but they are quite impossible to find int he spec i want

Awesome video. Thanks so much

Thanks for the video Cristian

Great video.. just started tuning mine.. but shoup is hard to get a hold of 😔

Great talk thanks!

This is great timing. I just posted on E90 post about being ready to do a twin upgrade and you post this the next day. My big concern tho is being able to smog the car in CA. I can remove all my parts like intake and DP but I’m not about to swap back the turbos each time for smog. I live in CA so it’s crazy out here. BTW I just purchased the ID4Motion cluster from your site and am loving it! If anyone’s on the fence about this, it’s great. Easy install with no input lag for the gauges. Looks beautiful too. Thanks for the vids man stay safe.

@hermeslika7304

2 жыл бұрын

Great timing for me too as I also live in Cali and want to buy another somewhat fun car since I’ve never had a 335i after selling my f80 for a brand new truck lease I need something to put miles on with reliable power in the 600s but that smog shit is no joke here in Cali you’re not wrong. I heard now the only way is if you know someone in the dmv who can put your smog that’s the way to go

@1Luv4SF

2 жыл бұрын

@@hermeslika7304 They did change the smog law this year. But you can definitely still pass. Just gotta remove downpipes, intake, and charge pipe basically. You have to uninstall the tuning software which is easy enough to do. And you should be good. I just went through it not too long ago. And ppl on the forum say that u can pass with upgraded turbos so long as you use the stock tune for the time being. But apparently if you go single turbo then can’t smog it in CA. Not sure there is any way around that.

@hermeslika7304

2 жыл бұрын

@@1Luv4SF I guess that makes sense stock tune with upgraded turbos low boost and if you go back to stock pipes.. either way upgraded pure turbos sounds like the way to go for me personally. I don’t have the time to be messing with what could go wrong with a single turbo setup versus the upgraded turbos which fit with everything else like the car is designed to

@1Luv4SF

2 жыл бұрын

@@hermeslika7304 Agreed. Pure 600’s is what I’m going to get as well. They make more then enough power for my needs. In fact my car makes more then enough power right now. It breaks loose in 2nd and 3rd gear. But I can’t help always wanting more. In San Fran there’s nowhere to drive it hard unfortunately. So I don’t get to open her up very frequently.

@hermeslika7304

2 жыл бұрын

@@1Luv4SF yeah it’s never enough haha but a happy number is always good and 600s is perfect as you said. As far as breaking loose, I still haven’t bought one but I’m torn between RWD and the xDrive. For me it has to be manual but I’m not sure which one is better, also do you know if the manual tranny will hold 600s or will we need to upgrade it?

Learned a lot from this vid. Keep up the good work💪🏾

nice vid bro

Yes another video 😎🤟🏼

Great meat video Vehicle Virals

Any updates on the F10 M5? Glad to see another video!

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

Update video coming soon

I love my 17ts, been about a year on em and no problems fbo pi full e85 20psi

Great video. Surprised you didn’t give RB Turbo some love. I opted to run RB Game Finisher High Flow twins for my track/street build.

@james10165

2 жыл бұрын

Wanted to pull the trigger on the same twins for my 335is, but they are backordered until December/January. How much HP/TQ are you pushing?

@midwestbmw1292

2 жыл бұрын

@@james10165 I won’t be doing the install until this fall but based on the people I’ve talked to that have them it’ll be somewhere around 650/625 with the set up I plan to run. The turbos are well made and I’m actually going to do a breakdown video about them soon. The only downside is the slow process at RB. I paid for my turbos in March and didn’t get them until the middle of August. Much of the delays were due to the pandemic though.

@james10165

2 жыл бұрын

@@midwestbmw1292 About finished installing Docs bottom mount kit and I finally receive an email back from RB if I was still interested in the High flows lol maybe if this single turbo doesn't workout Ill give em a try.

@midwestbmw1292

2 жыл бұрын

@@james10165 yeah Rob takes forever. When I got my turbos I was really starting to get to the end of my patience. I’m currently installing my LPFP, PI and Motiv ReFlex and hoping to be making power soon.

I did some Vargas turbo twins, same size as factory with upgraded billet wheel for about $1200. Ran good and seemed good quality when they arrived! I think they can hold up to 500 hp.

@WickedIllusion1

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same but getting some throttle cut at WOT... what tune are you running?

@N54-

2 жыл бұрын

@@WickedIllusion1 I’ve seen people run mhd V5 map and have no problem but honestly just get a custom tune

@thisguyshorty3554

2 жыл бұрын

I also have those from VTT. Havent installed them yet but hopefuly they last longer than what people say. I was told a set blew during tunning. Another buddy has had them for a 1yr with fbo and no issues.

@Jordibenitez_

2 жыл бұрын

@@WickedIllusion1 i have not yet tuned, just been running them as if they were oem with some silicon inlets. As for the throttle cut what tune you running?

@Jordibenitez_

2 жыл бұрын

@@thisguyshorty3554 nice! I beat on them pretty hard when I first got them & they seem solid, we’ll see how they hold on with fbo and tune lol

If you want reliability twins Pure Turbos ,single -Doc Racing! Maybe RBs’!

@danieldarey3760

Ай бұрын

Pure 600s reliable?

“You don’t have to do any relocations if you don’t have to” 😂😂

Hey man I had a question Im in the process of getting all the parts for the F80 brakes conversion for my 335is, what did u end up doing with the ABS sensors? SLG said they just delete them but will my ABS still work?

I finally got enough money, can't decide on building a 2jz and swapping it in my e92 or just building my n54 with f-rb+ twins, closing deck, sleeves, forged pistons, rods, crank, high lift cams, valvetrain, index 12 injec, port injec, hpfp overhaul. I love the sound of 2jzs tho they scream like a mofo vs the n54 sounding like a fart box

Nice vid, I still think I'm gonna go for upgraded twin's, just not sure which ones yet. 👍🏽

@10-illmatic

11 ай бұрын

Did you pick out the twins yet?

@malinoisnation9392

6 ай бұрын

What did u use?

I have been in some beastly single turbo cars, and the thing that scares me with the singles is it boosts so hard up top, when you're racing it would not be hard to over rev your engine with a miss shift. For me it's all about the down low power, especially out of a dig.. although that is just begging to break something. Hoping to get some hybrid twins installed soon, looking at some RB Two Plus turbos.

@topfueljunkie100

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever get some upgraded turbos put on your car? If so, which, and what do you think so far?

@SirtubalotTX

Жыл бұрын

I understand the appeal of a single turbo, but I’ve been in too many upgraded twin N54s making big numbers and I just prefer them. If you can make the power you want with upgraded twins….why go single? Unless of course, you prefer more turbo lag lol

My wastegates sound horrible when i let go the gas. I gotta start planning soon

Can the steptronic auto (2009) hold up to the turbo upgrades?

From personal experience having installed and ran on3perfomance top mount, stage 2 hi-flows and CES hp1000 kit, it’s CES all the way, hands down. Spend the extra buck and never look back

@topfueljunkie100

Жыл бұрын

Could you tell me what you liked better about the CES single kit (bottom mount?) vs the Pure Stage 2s? Obviously power delivery between the two will be very very different, twins hitting hard down low quickly whereas you gotta wait a while for a large single to spool, but those PS2s should hold to redline no problem, so what does the single, that one in particular, have over the twins?

I ordered 17t's from Dynamic Autowerx and they made crazy power however the rear turbo blew up within 1000 miles. They ended up replacing it for me. Lasted at 22-26psi for 5k miles until I blew my motor. Gonna put them on my new motor. The set I bought costed about $1900 after shipping. I ordered the turbo replacement kit from ECS Tunjng for about $250 at the time. Assuming you do the install yourself and have the tools already, you'll be able to spend about $2400 to upgrade twins and they come with a warranty. If I could go back, I would go with a single turbo considering my car is a 6AT and I could make 650-700whp "safely" without risking the trans. The twins produce a lot of torque, which can snap axels and blow transmissions super easily. Single turbo is pretty in the engine bay, a lot easier to replace if something were to go wrong, technically safer, and in most cases capable of making more power.

@thisguyshorty3554

2 жыл бұрын

What caused the engine to go? Tunning or mechanical?

@shawzymusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@thisguyshorty3554 Rod bearings and lost compression in a cylinder

@nathangreen6286

2 жыл бұрын

Shittt I was thinking of getting the 17T's too 🤣😭

@shawzymusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathangreen6286 they aren't bad by any means but I would definitely prefer a single turbo moving forward. We aren't all made of money unfortunately.

@nathangreen6286

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawzymusic yeah that's the thing , the singles are so expensive not just for the turbo but everything else that goes along with it plus the labor, whereas the 17Ts are cheaper and a straight swap from the stock turbos

I just want my n54 to make hellcats mad chris..... its damn near a daily driver and im looking to put 19t on it.... unless u have any better ideas??👀

I would say twin for low end and single for top end

I got the N55 2011 Le Mans Blue Coupe with a Varga level 2 big single turbo, I make 400whp and 400wtq and not gonna lie dont feel like I need much more.

So you convinced me to get some ebay hybrids. But now should i get the 17t or 19t? 🤔

A correctly spec’d single turbo set up with spool quicker and make more top end.

@james10165

2 жыл бұрын

still deciding between upgraded turbos from RB or a Doc Racing bottom mount kit for my 335is. What spec would you recommend for roll racing?

@chillinvillain2707

2 жыл бұрын

@@james10165 a too mount

17t or 19t ftw 😈

No dynamic autowerks love I see.

On a e93 would u rather go single or twin upgrade ?

The worse thing about e9x cars is you always see what they run on the dyno but you never see what they do against another car on the highway or on the drag strip. Every video is just how much it makes on the dyno.

@insertrandomnamehere764

Жыл бұрын

Multiple reasons for it. Heavy car so it's good on the roll but not so good on the dig. Hense you will find roll races with it but hard to find a drag race. It's a bmw. Fun to drive and can be very powerful, but running it hard means unintended maintenance and if you aren't doing it yourself you could be spending more than you paid for the car to get it running again. Lastly it's a bmw most people will build it for show or drift.

I have n55 e90. And literally just blow a turbo. Think I’m gonna go pure stage 2

Great video, but I'm sure for many it will come down to cost unfortunately. After maintenance even Chinese turbos don't seem cheap anymore 🤣

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

Maintenance is the hurdle most people are not willing to touch 😆

Opinion on Frankenturbos 🤔

Need a new motor 2010 335i x-drive can recommend new motor. Should I get single twin motor ?

Good points! You keep in touch with the new owner of the e93? Curious how it's still running

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

He sold the car a month or so after winning it sadly.

@xeroturtle6979

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals yea unfortunately he did I saw it on offer up in my local area

@pugs1377

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals dam, well I hope the new owner is enjoying it

@MistaaFrosty

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals i’m actually happy he did cause that shows me you actually did the giveaway so kudos to you brother.

Hallo which turbos is tge best for twins,i have 17T on now but looking for 650hp ?

I’m runnin pure 600s making 470HP and 550TQ on lowish boost 20psi I think I could get more out of them with port injection

Nice video, what about tune with the hybrids. Do i need a custom tune?

@VehicleVirals

Жыл бұрын

You don't but I recommend a custom tune.

Support the RPM act

any idea for the 528i 3.0 N53 l6 engine

Can I upgrade my twin turbos with out tuning it, I’m not really looking to increase any power just need to replace my turbo.

As I was watching the reliability section I noticed you mentioned maintenance and I saw there was some gaskets and injectors, I didn’t recognize the few other parts, so I was wondering what all would you recommend doing before doing either swap ?

@rxzesereniti9750

Жыл бұрын

Spark blush and coil packs, water pump, thermostat, fuel pump are the big ones on n54 also get a blow by tank

@juliocota6335

Жыл бұрын

@@rxzesereniti9750 thank you my man

How about a slightly smaller single rather than a big one. Maybe something like a g30-770 shooting for mid 500s in HP. Keep the response and not as restrictive in top end, could be better for heat management especially for track and better sound too

What's the price difference? The whole kit

What about RB game finishers?

This is why I love the YouTubbers. They do crazy shit to their engines so we don't have to. I own a BMW M car and no way will I do tunes or add bolt-ons. That just hurts the future value of these special models and you protect your wallet along the way. I understand the dynamics of YouTubbing, having to generate content and lining up sponsorship deals and such. You guys work hard but at the end of the day, it's strictly entertainment.

Can you send links to the 17ts your buddy used cause they are so many on eBay. I don't know which ones to go for

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

He links them on his video

@choopdabloon6315

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals Thank you again love the channel bro

I would love to do this to my 335i, but being realistic the labour is like 3 grand just to drop the motor and take everything off the engine before touching the turbo's haha....man can wish

@donteellington7911

2 жыл бұрын

Diy is the only answer to these cars. Poor man can’t afford labor rich man buys an m3+

@gregmanzolillo8666

Жыл бұрын

No reason for this to be 3k. It’s not that difficult. Doing my wife’s in my shop along with all new hoses, ps system, ac system, gaskets and it’s close to 3k then labor wise if I factored it all plus washing the bay and deep cleaning it. If it were just down to the turbo business, 1.5ish. That’s 15 hours of labor. Plus it’ll be on carfax. Shops aren’t fare, charging full for stuff already coming out

Will an auto transmission handle a single turbo set up? Also do you have to upgrade the drive shaft?

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

Seen plenty of single turbo N54s. I didn't upgrade my driveshaft when I owned my E93. It was fine. All depends on the condition, and that pretty much applies to anything.

With single you only have to worry about one turbo breaking. I did go upgraded twins Vargas F-RB, I love em 850hp which is plenty. Got about 20k on em so far. Motiv tune, no nothing but the best. You should race the Jess dude!

whats a reasonably safe daily psi for pure stage 2 highflows? too many ppl blow up going 25psi+

@zaycomage6888

2 жыл бұрын

17

Do you just fit the turbos and away you go with 500/600bhp or are other modifications required to get the most out of them?

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

You can make that power with stock turbos. FBO and tune

Any suggestions or advise for my transmission? I have 09 335xi with auto transmission.I’m on upgrading to pure stage 2 turbos but I read(and my mechanic agree) horror stories about the auto awd transmission…that cannot handle the torque.. So even if I am not launch break boosting am I going to have problem?is there any mod to prevent a trans-disaster??thank you very much!!

@Thomas998822

2 жыл бұрын

Following

@810Kmao

2 жыл бұрын

Xhp stage 3 or Rod suptin custom transmission tune

Single with no cat....you're talking a spool time at 3.2k, I gotta 67mm and an thats when my boost hit, I can't imagine a 6266!

Now that you have experienced both, which do you prefer? Big twins or big single?

His giving out the 'knowledge'

Which N54 do you recommend getting from a 07-10 ? Which one is the sweet spot like did the 2009-2010 fix issues the older models had ?

@jair.710

2 жыл бұрын

i had a 2010 with paddle shifter i loved it

im here with a 528i 😪 i just want a 335i

Interesting

“Essentially making it more expensive than if you had gone for the hybrid” Toyota Prius guys be like: write that down, write it down So to summarize this video, I should find away to twin turbo Swap my 2001 Volvo S60 2.4T, possibly with the twins from the VED5 (D5244T11) or twin charge it…

@brandonmullins7406

2 жыл бұрын

Twin charge it

What about RB turbos?

Hello. Bro. I'm trying to contact you thru Facebook but cant reach you. I would like to order a N54 single turbo.can we inbox?

Ive had my17ts for over three years and still going gang bangers

Hi Thiago ~

what year is the car?

Iv been eyeing the pure600s for when my stock ones go only at 40k miles atm!

@ALEX.THE.RUSSIAN

2 жыл бұрын

You will be waiting for a very long time because those things will keep spinning and pushing unless you go to 22 psi and race a lot. Other wise those things will keep going for another 50 k for sire

@David_335

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALEX.THE.RUSSIAN ye wasnt in a big rush. Gonna do inlets soon tho so will probably run about 20lbs or so on a custom map.

@mattrixx007

2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I am thinking of buying a 335i myself but I'm worried about traction, for example if you floor it from 30-40 miles per hour does it spin bad? Lsd would help I guess

@ALEX.THE.RUSSIAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattrixx007 lsd would definitely help. And some decent tires. I have open diff and go on my profile how hard my car goes

make a video about xhp stage 3

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

I did

Does two turbos mean two down pipes?

how much does a shop usually charge for the single turbo set up install

@bryanawesome3351

2 жыл бұрын

4-5k what I got quoted

@kevinmurzak8496

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanawesome3351 damn that’s aids i just found a shop that’ll do it for 1.5

I wanna move to a 6466

question, i have a 2011 335i, n55 w/ auto 6, even thought it automatic, would a single be worth it or just stick with the twins?

@X11CHASE

2 жыл бұрын

I can never find any widespread info on the automatics.. I’m also curious to know what we can do to keep the 6at strong m

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

The 2011 335i has the N55 engine equipped which comes with one turbo, not two. You can upgrade the single turbo to one that can hold more power and you're auto trans should be fine.

@jdunsmore_

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals are you sure it’s single turbo? the engine cover still says twin power turbo

@VehicleVirals

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely certain. "Twin power turbo" is BMW's term for their twin scroll single turbo technology.

@jdunsmore_

2 жыл бұрын

@@VehicleVirals ah ok, all this is new after coming from an 02 camry 🤣

mmp 1k's =poggers

The owner of the winery where i work just got his plaid umm yeah upgrades seem pointless now🤣🍷

You need to go explore california for 1 single week expand meet new youtubers dont want this channel going nowhere i got a 335xi manual building super car killer

Alis is the best option lol