I’m so glad I stumbled on this video 😮😮😮

This is a best ever chip lesson. Thanks for sharing this and I will definitely not share it with my golf buddy. Others yes😉

It gets no better than these two for simple concise instruction that you will be able to execute and master immediately on the course.

One of the best short game videos you have produced. Well done.

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Very cool to see and hear 2 brothers who have a passion for what they do and cooperating with each other. Not always easy with family, but they make it work.

These guys know what they are talking about!

You guys are AWESOME, so grateful to have discovered Graves Academy!!!!!!

How cool is it to have one brother presenting long game and the other on short game? I'm not implying that Todd isn't great in his short game, but more so, having another coach like Tim with excellent short game skills. Thanks guys. Great viewing

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

Great detail and content. The more I practice 'The Moe Way or No Way ' as I call it, the more confident I feel taking on some awkward and tricky shots. Many thanks guys, loved the respect you have for each other and of coarse the legend himself.😉

So I haven't played for quite sometime and have gotten back into golf. And switched to the single plane swing. Got to say I have never hit a ball so far and straight before. Just need to work on my short game, so this is great to see!

Todd/Tim, The wealth of technical information in this video is tremendous. You guys are the best in the golf instruction business. Simple, clear and concise. Great job, AGAIN!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

"This is me, this is you"....genius underhand analogy.

I tried Tim‘s chip technique (grip low, ball back, hands go towards the target) and the contact is amazing. However, I like opening the face in all chips because it prevents the club from digging in the grass.

Todd, you are amazing! my story, 65 yrs old, just retired and moved to coastal South Carolina, I wanted to learn golf, found you on you tube, watched all your vids, bought your book, got a part time job at a very classy local course just to get free golf and range. short learning curve (2 months) from your instructions and I can only hit it straight now. used low grade clubs I bought at second hand store. driver out to 190 yrds, 9 iron 80 yrds. my friends can't believe I am a rank beginner. this is amazing. best score so far 78. I watch every video you put out!

Excellent explanation of how all this works and why

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Loved the point you and Tim got to with accelerating the club which lessened the back swing. That conversation that you referenced being maybe the best part of the video meant a lot to not only the short game but to guys like me whose brains and bodies have told them for years that I have to "take it back" to generate speed in the full swing too. Great job bringing the video all the way around and hitting on the "two birds" and "domino" theories.

Another great Graves brother video. I’m working hard on dropping the trail shoulder under on pitching and full swing to prevent going over the top in the full swing. Nothing new, I know, but the more I see you both demo this in the short game & full swing, the easier it is for me to work toward position 2 to impact in “the model.”

Thank you Todd and Tim,you guys explain it so well and it is really enjoyable to watch and listen .It is something I will enjoy practicing

Tim needs to slow down when he talks! Also want to see more visual as he explains technique. But it all makes sense!! Thanks..

@chrisl6531

2 жыл бұрын

i like that he speaks quick. means i dont need to speed up the video to get the content. well done Timmy

Nice job. Tim is pacing his comments nicely.

Love the tip. Can’t wait for the courses to open up here in 🇨🇦 because of covid to try this tip

My game is finally turning and improving. Fine instruction.

Brilliant. Graves brothers great video

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Wow 🤩 amazing advice!!! I’ve enjoyed how are you going to tie the short game into the longer game.. (i’ve been struggling with that in my mind and I really appreciate this video) so many great tips!!! God bless you Todd!!

Tim hit the nail on the head for me at the 17:35 mark. I tend to lean the club opening the face and subsequently push the ball right. On the next chip, I compensate and open my shoulders pulling the ball left. I ordered the board! 👍

Another great instructional video! Thanks, guys!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for the video. I was surprised by how far back the ball is on the chips. Even more then I thought to do.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

I know.

Perfect !

Illuminating. Thank you.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

@davidgeorge5344

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf spent some time at the practice chipping green and could not keep the club head behind my hands, or past the ball frequently! The amount of shaft lean I needed really surprised me. The videos are great but you can't beat having someone who knows what they are doing standing with you.

@Todd - Would like to see and hear your thoughts (video) on moving toward the target while the backswing is still happening. I know Moe did this, like many pros do, and I think a lot of amateurs struggle with this sequence.

Love the info for most recreational golfers and enjoy teaching this similar motion to them. Tim Graves, how would you justify your technique compared the contrasted style of a Sieckmann or Utley who contradict your forward shaft lean at impact? I think your setup and motion is simple to repeat.

I like the way you talk faster when you talk to your brother ! He talks fast and it causes your voice to talk faster ! It's a brother competitive thing !!!!!!!!

What are the differences between Moe Norman's chipping method versus Tim Grave's chipping method? It looks like ball placement is one difference and the finish position of the wrists is a second difference. Thanks for your help.

I have been out to practice chipping this way a few days now and I already see some improvement in my chipping. I cannot practice full swing right now due to a closed driving range. But I bet I will see an improvement on my full swing as well, when the range opens again. This due to working on holding the hands at the end of my chipping. It`s like the wall in some ways.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

Tell me about the lead elbow. How do you keep it pointing to the target ? Please

Up until now I've only used SPS for everything except chipping (and I'm a horrid chipper). I know I need to implement into it into my game after watching this (inability to chip is currently killing my scores)

With the hands so far forward, aren’t you losing all the advantage of the club’s bounce?

With such a big shaft lean, are you using the bounce at all? If so, how?

Several comments asked about related things...your method of ball back/descending blow is what I was taught long ago, but professionals today don't really seem to do this. More often they seem to use the Stan Utley method of ball forward and using the bounce of the club, just trying to get the club to bottom out where the ball is or even slightly behind it. Can you address whether you've tried this method in your schools, and what your opinion is? The Utley people claim that with the ball back, there is more possibility of poor striking.

Great video! Thanks! Very helpful. What is your opinion about the chipper club

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

I love it

@johnbouchard4991

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf Do you or your brother use one?

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbouchard4991 yes the Graves Golf training one.

Great video! I already do some/most of that. The issue is that some videos I watch talk about using the bounce. I'm assuming the bounce is for lob shots, like Phil does. Do you change much for lob shots and use the bounce with little to no lean?

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

ball position changes for lob. More forward, less lean. yes.

Tim talks fast, like Moe did. Great information, thanks

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@jimgreeninger

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf I really want to attend your school in a few months. I just bought a used set of Tommy Armour single length clubs. I think I like them, time will tell.

Referring to the template, which clubs would you use for the C, P and L, and under what conditions. Assuming P/L are for the lob and pitching wedges, and you are looking for more height , what would the C club usually be? ...something less lofted such as a 9-iron maybe? Thanks

@kemelad0obi818

3 жыл бұрын

More videos on the short game pls

Not trying to knock anything but why do so few tour players use this method? Watch a lot of golf and they don't play shots around the green like this. When i try to chip with hands that far ahead its shanks and toe hits.

Hi Todd and Tim! Love your videos! Could you please do a video using the template board of pitching and lob shots! I have your original videos and your “Single Plane” book! I would also like to purchase the short game and driver, irons template boards if you can give me the site to do so! The “Single Plane” swing makes total sense and I am amazed at how you have deciphered the genius of Moe’s single plane swing!

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Stan. Send me your email address to toddg@gravesgolf.com and I will send you a link to purchase the products with a bit of a discount for buying multiple products. Thanks.

@tngolfgame

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf I am interested in the 2 template purchases as well. What club was Tim using in this video? What would your thoughts be on using a shortened club for the sole purpose of the short game?

@ToddGravesGolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@tngolfgame please email me at toddg@gravesgolf.com thank you

May work for a handful of amateurs but almost certain recipe for disaster for the majority to shaft lean so much with a Wedge with sharp leading edge and ball back position.

Question on this guys. When do you stop the chipping method? I figured you can do this method up to a good distance using a pitching wedge and hitting more pitch shot possibly, but once you have to get the club up near shoulder height shouldn't you just do a normal swing? I don't remember ever see Moe do a separate swings. He did chipping like you showcase here and he had a shorter backswing for 70-100 that he would use even up to 7 iron to pitch with, and then the full swing. Is that what you guys promote?

Can you guys go over bunkers?

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

can we actually do it or can we teach you how?

Great vid. Quick question/observation Regarding clubs, since you promote higher hands at address, do you recommend putting your iron clubs one degree up and also the other clubs? Reason being, the hosel is off the ground when you raise your hands . Great vid btw!

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

I recommend getting a proper Single Plane Club Fitting. Lie angle and length are related. My clubs are actually 2 degrees flat of standard.

@fairwayfreddy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf thanks for your reply. Makes sense. Is the toe of your club more upright now?

Whats the maximum distance from the green you would use this set up

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

When you want the ball to hit and roll.

My 14 year old is ready for the feeling of greatness! Do you have training for that age?

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

I would place her into our Online Coaching Program - where you could send videos to the coaches. That would be a great start.

@andyfuentes7482

3 жыл бұрын

Ok. Well he has been around the single plane for over a years due to me changing. I will visit the website and go from there. Thank you sir!

If you look at Moe though in those chips, the ball is center to front of stance! How come??

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Different shot

@ssilverman9

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToddGravesGolf I don’t see much of a difference?? I thought you always play chips off back of stance? When would I want ball further in front??

My younger brother you need to stop interrupting your brother. You're making me anxious but really good lessons.

speaking of compression, this was an hour long at normal talking speed. :)

I'd like to see the short games demonstrated in heavier grass . I'd also like to see putting long distances as I have wrist and hand arthritis and tend to favor them and it throws me off line and pace .

@zoehyland3255

2 жыл бұрын

How much is the chipping board

As a coach myself I need to speak slowly when I instruct. I know your brother is excited to get the information out but he speaks too quickly that I found it difficult to digest the information

Why choke all the way down on the club

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Control.

Good video but you guys really need to slow down your speech and stop talking over each other. Makes it real hard to understand and visualize..

I noticed you lift up a bit.

@ToddGravesGolf

3 жыл бұрын

Naturally.

Please Talk a Bit slower. The machine gun gives you „headeggs“,

Pls slower speaking !

@ToddGravesGolf

Жыл бұрын

Ok.

You talk too fast