Welsh journalist moaning about English fans? Who'd have thought it , eh?

0:17 "One of the most respected correspondents in rugby Stephen Jones"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 how did he say it with such a serious tone

@sonnypembleton6706

8 ай бұрын

Because he’s a sycophant 😂

@HibeeMcbee

7 ай бұрын

Pahahaha. The guy is an absolute welt eh.

@Calmdown1354

4 ай бұрын

😂😂

I live right near Twickenham stadium, on the whole the crowd is very well behaved, miles better then a football crowd. The Journo Stephen Jones wouldnt be Welsh by any chance?

@CHIPorange

7 ай бұрын

That's exactly the journalist's point... Rugby fans, on the whole, are much better behaved BUT England fans are letting these usually high standards slip.

If you’ve ever been to the Principality for a Wales game, half the fans are wasted!

@aledwyn6017

7 ай бұрын

I agree worse post lockdown in the principality and folk are more interested in the bar as a posed to watching the rugby baffles me

@stevenjones916

7 ай бұрын

You think that is just because the rugby is on ? 😂

@andrewleah1983

7 ай бұрын

The others are too busy chasing sheep.

Things are getting a bit spicy between Simon and Jim and I'm all for it.

I played rugby union as a lad and teenager, represented the county schools, u17s and colts teams and played for the the club first team in the national leagues, I packed in at 21 because I couldn’t stand the drinking culture and ‘bravado’ that came with it. These types of antics aren’t unusual, it happenings in clubhouses and rugby pubs all over the UK. It’s definitely not an English phenomenon, I’ve seen Scot’s and the Welsh absolutely leathered applying similar antics.

Irish fan here. I'll be frank, anytime I've been to Twickenham it has been an utter pleasure; England fans have been pretty sound with me and other fans. In this instance, I think it is more to do with it being away from Twickenham and a different fan set that you would get at an England match away where the tickets were open to the general public as opposed to via the actual clubs. I have just been to both the Ireland vs Scotland and New Zealand matches and we have a different fan set compared to at the Aviva; more fair weather and less rugby-centric fans compared to those who turn up in November to watch the boys in green vs say Samoa (no disrespect to them). Also, these matches being held at 9pm doesn't help with the drinkers (not saying they don't have agency and they couldn't have simply not drunk as much).

Jim White, the most consistent hand brake in UK Sports media. We need a series of illustrations and finger paintings to help him understand what the grown ups are talking about.

Jim’s in his element, he loves any chance to denigrate fans. Like the rest of the media he always tars every fan with the same brush even though it’s a small minority of fans that go too far.

@monkofknowledgestan

8 ай бұрын

Yup. It's funny how the media always labels it as ' X fans' rather than a minority of 'x fans'. This is the same language that was used for Liverpool fans in the champions league final.

@jamesbong4928

8 ай бұрын

This was from a reporter saying what he saw, it's not rocket science.

@jeanjacqueslundi3502

8 ай бұрын

I actually am not against painting every fan with the same brush. For a simple reason - everyone, including the clubs and the national teams need to take OWNERSHIP of this BS as a problem. If I'm a Liverpool fan and a bunch of Liverpool fans do something stupid in or outside a stadium i DO want "Liverpool fans" to get the blame. It's the only way Liverpool fandom and institution as a whole will responsability for this stupidity to not happen next time. If you are get triggered with being lumped in with bad fans....you aren't outraged enough with what those bad fans do and are probably an enabler.

@CG-fx9bl

8 ай бұрын

​@@jeanjacqueslundi3502what can fans do to stop fans from behaving that way? Other than reporting it? Lets say hypothetically that its not people who you know

@jeanjacqueslundi3502

7 ай бұрын

@@CG-fx9bl You can't. That's not the goal. The point is to unequivocably condemn and distance yourself from the people and behaviour. Imagine if clubs and fanbases were good at self-policing. Let's not forget the mess english football was in the past with hooligans and such. It's not like something can't be done...it's that people turn a blind eye and aren't vocal. So just do you and be vocal. I love footbal but I can't stand most football fans.

Lawrence Dallagion complained about being spat on by Welsh fans a number of years ago. Did this goon write about it? You may also remember stories of referees being ruffed up by Welsh fans after a visiting ABs side beat the local provincial side. Anti-social behaviour is not unique to England and it's not unheard of in rugby.

I went to three rugby world cup games in Nice last month including Wales vs Portugal and England vs Japan and the atmosphere around the city was fantastic. Everyone was mixing and was very friendly. I didn't see any trouble and I felt completely safe throughout the trip. In fact, by far the worst thing I saw while I was out there was when I was on my way to the stadium to watch England vs Japan and a presumably local man on a moped made a gesture with his eyes to mock Japanese fans.

Well said Simon. I have seen similar things elsewhere but it's a minority and not just England supporters.

@robertjefferson7142

7 ай бұрын

Doesn't mean it should be condoned just because another nation does it too

@willow666able

7 ай бұрын

I'm not condoning it.@@robertjefferson7142

Well said Simon

Stephen Jones has a reputation...a reputation for talking nonsense. I have the courage of my convictions to say that his word should not always be trusted and rugby fans are very rarely ill-behaved having been to rugby matches for many years. To say that England fans are the worst behaved is unfair, particularly as it is based on one incident which involved a tiny minority and is based on one person's word.

Rugby fans when they’re completely pissed can be a real handful, Jim putting the boot in real good just for good measure.

Went to England v Argentina at Twickenham a few years back and couldn't believe how many people either kept going to get pints of Guiness, 4 pints at a time in a tray, or going to the toilet. We were having to let people past for the entire game - ruins it. Why go to watch the game if they're not really going to watch it at all, just drink and piss?

@Calmdown1354

4 ай бұрын

💯 agree with this, it's getting worse every year as well! Unfortunately more tickets seem to go to corporate now than fans, due to the amount of sponsors, and price increases. The amount of people you talk to at half time now that have never even watched a game before is unreal 🤦

It’s Sucks, this happens in All Sports All Over the world and as a South African our supporters love fights and the problem the English supports wrong time wrong place. The T20cricket is worse after a game the loosing team damage property so it’s every single sport not just rugby.

This is sadly the best and worst of Jim White where his gutter journalist element comes out and he’s in his element. Fortunately, Simon tends to bring out his good side

Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@jayzee9149

8 ай бұрын

He won't sleep with you....

@user-zy9yg2eu5t

7 ай бұрын

Such a cringe comment

I was in Nice for the weekend of the Japan game , we watched the game in the rugby village & I saw nothing at all that could be classed as poor behaviour by any fans, this must have been a isolated incident ( I'm a Welsh fan) . we socialised with English ,Scotts, Irish, Aussies, Kiwi's & were out around town til 2am

I thought a lot of rugby fans & amateur players ran round naked with lighted bog paper hanging out their backsides

Can we please also get the opinions of Paddy O'Malley and Jock Mccall.

Wasn't England v Japan on about a month ago?!

Sounds like great fun on that tube. I don't know what they are completely about.

Totally agree with Simon again spot on mate!!!

Simon Jordan is extremely measured, articulate and oozes common sense, with a good measure of humour 😜

I've been watching rugby for 40 years. Goto Cardiff on a Saturday after a National game, it will be worse than any football match you've ever been to. Total Bedlam

@RyanGRyan1985

7 ай бұрын

It's great, no fighting, you big baby

Guys the title’s wrong. It should be UNLEASHES

Most of the responses to this seem to sum up the England fans. I am sure none of the people putting remarks have been to a match recently, I have and I would have to agree with Stephen. It isn’t the majority of fans, but it is a significant minority

At Uni, the Rugby guys were most crazy. The Football teams more yobbish. But Rugby were more crazy. In the 90s!

simon watch the youtube vid on english fans fighting WITH EACH OTHER in the stadium during this RWC

How about Scottish fans behaviour at Wembley years ago ripped up the pitch damage the goals I suppose that was ok.

Simon rightly analysed the strength of the andectodal information, which led to an article. Hardly a comparative study or meta analysis

That prissy little Jones twa+ is just trying to make headline. I was out in Japan for the England Argentina match and the Argentina fans made 10 times the racket en route to the station than we did (They were brilliant). Don't speak a lot of spanish so can't say how mucky the words were? Rugby fans (most nations) drink beer and make a din, they tend not to smash property and kick heads in unlike those of some sports oft' covered on talksport!

Well said Simon 👏🏻 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

The common denominator with these things is not the sport, it’s the English. I’ve been to plenty of Irish games against multiple nations, never an issue. Problems follow the English fans regardless of the sport

Well said, Simon!

I was under the belief that Rugby Fans were well-behaved & Footie fans are hooligans 🤔

@Wall562

8 ай бұрын

No, you wanted to give the perception you believe this when the reality is, you didn’t really know for sure and just believed what you read in the media!

@rogerdavies2796

8 ай бұрын

There's scum at both ends of the social ladder. Just a fact.

@garyh1572

8 ай бұрын

No, they're just middle-class.

Remember when people "moon" out of coach windows on way to a match..nothing new..

Any event that draws tens of thousands of people (from ANY country) into the same area.....how can you expect them to all be on their best behaviour?? At the end of the day is that not what event security and police forces for???

I couldn’t get to the end.

I’ve had great banter with English fans…it’s normally just too much drinking and things go too far.

@henryb160

8 ай бұрын

....and then (maybe) you get a glass in your face! I've seen it.

Jim, on his moral high ground as usual whenever it comes to the English, whether it be football or rugby.

Iv already seen two fights in the stadium between the English fans. Not like it’s a new thing.

I have no interest in reading anying that Jones has to write.

They were even hitting each other with there wax jackets

I saw French supporters at Stade De France flicking petit pois once.

Welsh rugby slags off English rugby. Shock horror.

Scottish fans throwing bottles at the England team in 2018 st Murreyfield, and physically attacking Eddie Jones outside the hotel the following day . Oh wait butvthey are allowed

Jim would have been the hall monitor at school. Dobbing kids in to the principal if they were naughty.

Don't know who, but shouldn't someone get 14 years porridge for this broadcast?

It's probably Farrell fans who've been adapting too much of his behaviour.

What a wind up Jim White is hasn't changed in 20 yrs.

Oh no not filthy lyrics!

I don't like Simon but he's growing on me!but to say rugby is getting bad as football is crazy!!it's not in the same category!!

Oh stop it Jim Its society NOT sport!!

"...wrote about it- why? because he witnessed it". Then proceeds to relate an "anecdote" about fans on a tram- which only sounded like high spirits anyway. And a Welshman to boot. You couldn't make it up- or maybe someone did?

I went to Japan to watch the WC in 2019, the only people I saw behaving like idiots during 3 weeks there was a group of Argies singing and throwing drinks and group of Auzzies doing a human pyramid on the train (big deal in Japan), both isolated incidents, no doubht there were others. Been going to Twickers for 25 years, never seen trouble once, yet seen fights in Cardiff during 6 nations. Again all isolated incidents, and a drop in the ocean overall. Jim just being a typical Scott 🙄 Move on......

Rugby is a sport where fans mix without trouble and segregation unnecessary, if few loutish idiots could ruin fan experience for rest of world. One of things people love about rugby is enjoying experience with opposition fans

The quicker this show is called Stelling and Jordan the better. Jim can then trot off to the BBC where they can blame the English & Brexit for all the worlds problems

Seems the only problem is 9pm kick offs! Fans are wasted!

What's any of this got to do with the price of Cheese?

@GamerFrisco

8 ай бұрын

Exactly

@lfcspectre4335

8 ай бұрын

@@GamerFrisco Sir GamerFrisco = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

I doubt this is as bad as he made it sound but rugby shouldn't Bury its head in the sand.

What are the French police saying about it?

Simon has this tendency to use language such as “what he/she is saying is this….”. When in fact that’s what HE has extrapolated from the article . Classic gaslighting

Jim loves to get a rise from Simon and persists until he does. They are just a great combination.

It IS usually England fans. Most other countries fans are better behaved.

Its miniscule compared to football. You see opposition fans sitting with each other and talking in the stadiums. Rugby fans are generally the best

great argument Simon " i stolen judje cuz other people are stealing too ".....the fact other fans behave bad aswell means what ?!# its a piece on that behaviour of England fans.....adress that dont go look for excuses !

That's a suspiciously Welsh sounding sports journalist if you ask me.

Jim needs to stop interrupting and and talking over people, stop trying to be a pound shop Paxman

Us English just aren’t enriching enough for some people!

To be honest it sounded like mighty craic

Just done a check the journalist is Welsh of course he is !!

Did the England fans have the courage of their convictions

@matthewbarber13

8 ай бұрын

I can think of nothing more absolute about backing the courage of your convictions if you’re taking your underwear off in public 😂😂

@mikedon5205

8 ай бұрын

It's dollars for doughnuts 🍩

😂 England will learn they lessons on Saturday get smashed on the field and off .

@garybrooks7357

7 ай бұрын

Only Team in the Northern Hemisphere in the Semi Finals. Usual glorious fail from the Jocks, Irish and Welsh. 😂😂😂. 21 of Scotlands team are not Scot’s 😂😂😂. France are the best team in the NH without doubt and we’re robbed in the South Africa game. That said getting battered by the Boks is no disgrace .

The english misbehaving in a foreign country 😮that never happens

@garybrooks7357

7 ай бұрын

Same as the jocks. Rangers smashing up Manchester.

Not some “…horrendously loud singing…” 😂

You need to be like us we have a laugh and nobody gets hurt, we don't come to compete we come to take over 🇮🇪🇮🇪😂😂🙏💚

@michelemijat8260

7 ай бұрын

​@@marcj4788still,been to finals and won them unlike you lot

@marcj4788

7 ай бұрын

@@michelemijat8260 with a pool of 8 millionyou should have won it at least 5 times,we got a pool of 50 thousand now that's impressive to anybodies outlook and we are a amazing team to watch, rugby is our 5th sport it's your 2nd well football is your 1st sport and look how many world cup's you won, you won a world cup with 8 teams and never even won a euros with a pool of over 2 billion in 67 years 🫣 enough said 🙏💚🇮🇪🇮🇪

Simon offended because their English.

I can imagine in rugby England fans would be the worst

Other fans don’t do the same as the English fans- simple

Wales must be out. Jones wants to bring England in to disrepute. Then of course is there Jim a scot.

Steven Dropkick Jones.....

Simon, I'm sure you've heard the saying, Once a thief.....

Cmon now, it's just one more week. Then they can all go home by Eurostar with their drawers off... 😂

Do English rugby fans dress as napoleon…. he did the throwing

I thought Simon didn't like what aboutery

They learnt it from the English fans

So let’s get this straight, we are supposed to accept a Welsh journalist as moral arbiter and to pretend this is not driven by bias aimed at English supporters. Like any journalist, he is sensationalising the mundane to make a name for himself… and to sell papers. And in the world we live in now, truth is no longer a prerequisite for the news, opinion and your own truth trumps reality. Congratulations Stephen Jones you got your name up in flashing lights… I guess with no more Welsh participation on the field of play you need to make up your own stories……. Oh sorry, I should also thank Stephen for saving the sport, you are so heroic, so selfless (my @rse)

England fans always doing the most

It's not called rugby it's alled rugby Union they don't own rugby league is a million times the better sport

@87Michael

8 ай бұрын

😴

@rjworldsportsnews

8 ай бұрын

Love rugby league such a great sport to watch and has a tribal following but family oriented at the same time

@mattmorgan4083

8 ай бұрын

No1 watches rugby league 😂😂

@gavinjohnson2640

8 ай бұрын

@@mattmorgan4083 no other than all the people who watch it noone

@gavinjohnson2640

8 ай бұрын

@@rjworldsportsnews exactly, watched quite a few england games you don't tend to get this happen

He can just about put a sentence together just gutted he's team already out

@jamesbong4928

8 ай бұрын

Oh the irony!

i must be living under a rock or blind, didnt see anything

If I was the King, I'd have Jim deported to the outer Hebrides.

No underpants on, infront of the Japanese family. Lol. I mean, terrible

How dare anyone attack simon jordan's precious britain

@DreOmar876

8 ай бұрын

😂😂

@rosshaugh7937

8 ай бұрын

Brilliant!

@GamerFrisco

8 ай бұрын

He's just happy he's not Scottish, Welsh or Irish.

@AshMcFarlane

8 ай бұрын

aren't we all@@GamerFrisco

@Baron-Ortega

8 ай бұрын

Why not. Everyone is always bad mouthing us. Normally jealous little creeps from small insignificant countries with no real history of their own.

Rugby Yawion, not Rugby League.

Jim get off your band wagon

Simon is a little too patriotic on this one. Can't defend this.