If your going to really protest then miss the whole match not 17 minutes. Complete nonsense

@TheL0neWanderer1997

2 жыл бұрын

But then they don't get to watch the game they payed for and the club they have loved for all the years the Glazers have been in charge for winning titles and trophies. 🤡 Don't remember the protests when they were winning. Tinpot protest. Poorly run club but a club where its owners are happy to spend money on. Fans complaining over nothing.

@nazgul9538

2 жыл бұрын

yeah walk out completely in the middle of a match

@AJ-xv7oh

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. This does nothing.

I’m a Utd supporter and Simon is spot on. These players are milking the club. They should equally be responsible for what’s happening in the club.

@stevenmonaghan1301

2 жыл бұрын

You must live in London yer.?? 😂

@miaavashow1751

2 жыл бұрын

Who allows them to milk the club who gave them the wages who gave them the social media platform THE BOARD EMPLOYED BY THE OWNERS

@abdulmaliksuleman9111

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on. Personally speaking, the players have downed tool. They are putting up what they did just before Ole was sacked. United need to cut off the wings of the players for them to behave.

@paulorganisation1

2 жыл бұрын

They found a dummy club to allow them milk it.

@enkig2624

2 жыл бұрын

There is no direction or vision

They won't take their seats till 17 minutes into the game. But have already paid to attend. 🤦🏽

@indiechana9771

2 жыл бұрын

Idiotic fans! Thick prats that don't have a brain!

Simon is spot on once again. The owners won’t sell because of a small protest. Business men don’t give up a money maker because people don’t like them, they’re used to it. The players are stealing a living as well. Robbing the fans blind each week yet people still back them.

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

While everything you (and Simon) say is true. It’s still ultimately the glazers who hired the people who both arranged for these players to join the club, and reward them with contract extensions - which by default makes it the glazers fault for allowing it to happen. To make it worse this has been going on for over 7 years now, meaning they havnt learnt, which means they are either incompetent or simply don’t care. If you owned a business and hired a mass murderer as an employee, then that employee kills everyone, it’s sort of on you as the business owner, don’t you think?

@ivanaleksandartsanev1693

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, actually us the United fans love the Glazers! It's only those fake Manchester fans that are going to protest, probably will be about a 100 people anyway. Real United fans are behind the owners, next season with Ten Hag we are going places!

@highvaluemale4866

2 жыл бұрын

The glazers backs players over manager all the time. So the glazer a guilty of creating the toxic atmosphere at the club. People like pogba was always catered to by the glazers and adidas cause he’s a marketing puppet for them both.

@thecontextual1one411

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't back players over Ole

@Typrevail93

2 жыл бұрын

@@samwize28 comparing failing employees to a mass murderer is a wild stretch and in no way accurate to this situation. They haven’t hired people who have a history of failing at running football clubs, so the fact they failed isn’t on them. The length of time they stayed in situ is. The argument that can be made is what do you class as a failure? As a football fan obviously not winning a trophy is failure. As the owner of a business that is making more and more money, have these people failed their employers? No. Ultimately they own a business that makes them money, a few people not liking them won’t change that fact.

Simon's right! If the club were winning all this talk of debt and dividends wouldn't be mentioned. Billions have been spent! The truth is No amount of money can cure football incompetence. They've no clue how to run a successfully winning football club.

@ozamrani22

2 жыл бұрын

The money comes from the revenue that the club generates, its definitely not coming from the Glazers pockets. And OT was chanting against the Glazers while SAF was still there. I remember a game against AC Milan in the CL when Becks played there where he was given a green-gold scarf as a protest and he wore it.

@barbarohelm9697

2 жыл бұрын

Not true tho united were champions when the biggest protest were going on . Simply research it

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

But the incompetence comes from the glazers….

@michaelo9379

2 жыл бұрын

The reason the team sucks is directly linked to the owners not bringing in a proper recruitment team, not allowing the managers to make final decisions and instead going for commercial decisions, not recruiting world class coaches and on and on

@sando99

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelo9379 "not recruiting world class coaches" - Are you suggesting that the fans were unhappy to have OGS at the helm for THREE years... until it became obvious that he didn't have the nous to buy the players that would be able to become part of a functioning team unit, nor the tactical acumen to compete with other top coaches.

"Gary Neville addressing the fans like he's addressing some union meeting" lol

@romulus3345

2 жыл бұрын

The champagne socialist

@salaamalaikumX

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@jameshall6061

2 жыл бұрын

@@romulus3345 Champagne Numbskull more like.

@tomobrien8417

2 жыл бұрын

Just likes the sound of his own voice.Socialist loud mouth

@nigget-tv-videos4135

2 жыл бұрын

neille a leftist windbag, owns hotels and football club and has millions in bank, tyipical bleeding heart liberal

Based on their form, none of Man U's players would start at another top club.

@richarddavies5674

2 жыл бұрын

Ronaldo, Pogba, De Gea? I'd imagine they'd slide nicely into any top team

@polaris7122

2 жыл бұрын

@@richarddavies5674 hahahahahaha 'JOGBA' hahahaha you should be on the stage! Hahahahahahahahah

@guythompson7218

2 жыл бұрын

@@richarddavies5674 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 standard deluded united fan. All 3 wouldn’t start for liverpool or city you mug.

Well said Simon. The players are laughing at the money they get

@umarshirazi2620

2 жыл бұрын

Simon says what about the players but who signed the players and who paid them these mad wages the glazers. They sign these social media stars instead of actual footballers so it is their fault

@romulus3345

2 жыл бұрын

@@umarshirazi2620 It all started when they bought Fellaini.

@ryanryan723

2 жыл бұрын

Maguire is main culprit, he must be laughing game after game, earning good money & creating own goals, what a joke!! Liverpool fan!!

Neville and Ferdinand have built media careers out of milking nostalgia for United. They're content creators, sure, but people shouldn't take them seriously as experts on all things United, and the solver of all its problems. They don't have the answers to everything. They do things for traction (which is fair game).

@trooney71

2 жыл бұрын

It's the easiest thing in the world to criticise & identify problems. At least Neville is offering a potential solution or at least a step in the right direction for moving the club forward. So what's your version of progress as you're telling us not to take Neville or Ferdinand seriously?

Right about Gary Neville too. None of his " 5 points" will save the club.

@pawelczerniakowskifootball375

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

What is needed is for football people to make footballing decisions. Which is like saying fish need water to swim. It sort of goes without saying at this point. Gary’s 5 points go on top of that requirement, will all help the club on the pitch, and are what should be expected of from a club of Utds size and resources

Love it with simons quote players milking the club so true .

The Glazers seem to be the main problem. From a Liverpool fan.

@francesca-en8nm

2 жыл бұрын

🤷‍♂️

@mloose7870

2 жыл бұрын

Wow a mature Liverpool fan, respect

@mikem8211

2 жыл бұрын

Arsenal fan here can Glazers take Kuntkes with them?

@registame2878

2 жыл бұрын

From a Liverpool fan 😆

@Ladioz

2 жыл бұрын

The Glazers seem to be the main problem. From a Man united fan.

Rashford has requested a deck chair to be placed on the left wing in old Trafford during contract talks. Poor fella is tired standing up all the time. Bless him.

Watching the champions league this week I saw teams play with fight and passion. The Man Utd players don’t have an ounce of fight or passion between them.

Wow, Simon is spot on.

Simon is spot on as usual.

My heart bleeds for United fans who have witnessed their club’s owners outspend all others over the last decade.

@cianbrady4377

2 жыл бұрын

The money United spent is the clubs money the owners have put 0 into the club. Know your facts.

@jezcorrigan651

2 жыл бұрын

@@cianbrady4377 the club is “owned” by the Glazers and therefore the money it generates is theirs. They have no obligation to spend it. Know how a business works.

@cianbrady4377

2 жыл бұрын

@@jezcorrigan651 and that’s why we want them out you idiot

@mrsinghsstereos6662

2 жыл бұрын

@@cianbrady4377 Man U have spent over a billion on transfer fees since Ferguson left . Whether that money comes from the owners pocket ( Chelsea / Man City ) or from the clubs operations ( Liverpool / Man U) is irrelevant. The players have to take a huge amount of responsibility for the team’s performance and as Simon points out , if the team was actually performing on the pitch these protests against the glazers would be less vocal

@cianbrady4377

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrsinghsstereos6662 you can’t keep blaming the players and managers when it’s been them causing all of this the last 8 years. There was protests when fergie was still around you haven’t a clue what your talking about.

The Owners sets the tone of the Club. He does so with how he runs the club...how he appoints managers, Does he put the right people in the right places? The Glazers haven't invested a single pound in Utd since they bought the Club...Old Trafford has seen no renovation or expansions in the last 16 yrs and is unfitting compared to the modern arenas like the Etihad or Spurs stadium. There is no ambition anymore at Utd to be the best club in the world. The Glazers have been a textbook on how to ruin a club. I fully support the protests. Man Utd problems all begin with the Glazers. Man Utd is a big brand and there must be a billionaire out there that is willing to buy the club. There were protests in 2005 when the Glazers were buying the Club, it's not new..in fact even a protest club was formed by some Man Utd fans the couldn't accept where the Glazers were going to take the club.

@Daniel-ev9uf

2 жыл бұрын

They send all the the money they make off United back to Tampa so Tom Brady so he can win another NFL championship.

@kendodd4623

2 жыл бұрын

Your view is so narrow minded. No owners put in their own money to pay for players. The glazers have spend billions on players. It is true they have managed the club badly with bad appointments but in terms of investment they have done it. No billionaire is going to spend 4 billion odd on man u cos they love the club and then spend their own money in buying players and updating the stadium, the club pays for that. Like simon said if the team was winning the call for glazers out would b very small. Glazers have invested,all owners want to make money from the club its called the real world which you have been part of since sir alex left. Get use to it

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-ev9uf When Joel Glazer said holding the Lombardi NFL trophy was the best feeling, it infuriated me. Holding the UCL should be that. They don't care about Man Utd except as a cash cow.

@fearlessformidableferociou8623

2 жыл бұрын

@@kendodd4623 ken dodd...you couldn't hv said it any better...i also don't understand this utd idea...'we want the club 2 be run as a football club'...uhm..does something like that still exist...i mean it's all commercial entities with footy as the product...and those plastic tweezer fence sitting utd fans complainimg about the Glazers...the road is wide...there's no doors even...just bcoz i'm a Tesco's , Amazon, Microsoft client, does not mean i can tell other ppl how 2 run, or ruin their businesses even...it's got absolutely nothing 2 do with me

@Leesy7NUFC

2 жыл бұрын

@@micahkiyimba8641 well of course it’s their number one sport in America you goon, they’ve spent millions nearly billion on players and putting in top managers like Van Gaal Mourinho

Too many players at Old Trafford with a poor attitude and lack of workrate. Also player's either past their best or simply not good enough to be pulling on a Man Utd kit. Will take several transfer window's to sort the mess out and will probably be a long time before they're challenging their neighbour's and Liverpool for title again.

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

It will take new owners. Old Trafford itself needs updating, it's not in good condition and does not fit the image of Utd. Arsenal, Liverpool, City and Spurs have all done work on their stadiums in the past 15 yrs and Utd haven't

@benedicthampus4964

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. Stick Conte in with Uniteds current squad and they would get top 3.

@philbarton2832

2 жыл бұрын

Paul Hirst: That's only the case because of mismanagement right from the top, they've been allowed to slack off because of soft management, management that the owners put in place.

TBF, I’m loving these chats! Simon Is mostly spot on with his words and arguments!

Simon actually leaving Jim speechless for once 🤣

@indiechana9771

2 жыл бұрын

Jim never shuts up! He's a total prat

@jayprivate825

2 жыл бұрын

@@indiechana9771 Ikr! Felt like such a win when Simon said “what about the players? “ You could see Jim desperately trying to think of a point to bring it back to the glazers. Love to see it XD

People seem to forget that the great Alex Ferguson was on the brink of getting sack and in this era of social media and people talking on a radio show who NEVER kicked a football as a professional he would of got the sack in this era before he had the chance to accomplish what he did. Man United had top managers after Ferguson but they weren't given long enough,the fans even now are still living off the Ferguson era.

Yes it’s the players who are milking it and also “job for the boys” taking club down..

Continuous mismanagement in all departments after the Gill and Ferguson era see United where they are now.. The Legacy of Ed Woodward.

rashford the english bebe. cons : can't dribble, can't pass, when he crosses he broke high rise apartment windows. doesn't want to run beyond, or track back. go missing in games. on 250k a week. throw tantrum when he doesn't start. needs cuddle pros: English passport, Barclays Bank customer, Tesco membership, likes the weather, makes great sandwich, likes cuddle.

@nandlalsall8244

2 жыл бұрын

excellent analysis...he is a limited player who has reached his level

@jonesyjones7626

2 жыл бұрын

He also has a contract with a PR Agency to promote his image.

"Where's the vilification of them" Eh.. Harry Mcgruire gets nothing but shite of everyone! (some of it deservedly)

@rockyrampersad4131

2 жыл бұрын

Some of it. Go from here with that talk nah g. If you are accustom watchin nonsense an seein a below avg player be overhyped by his fellow country men then im glad for you.

@patrickkelly6590

2 жыл бұрын

@@rockyrampersad4131 some of it.. In regards the constructive criticism of his performance as a Manchester defender and inability to remove errors from he's game.. But the toxic abuse of name calling and nasty personal attacks on him as a person are uncalled for. I mean what kind of fan boos the England team because he's playing? As if England need a reason for the team to fall apart under pressure!

@chrismcbrias8577

2 жыл бұрын

Maguire is at best average like most of the team We need quality not average

@patrickkelly6590

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrismcbrias8577 Utd get an actual proper manager and stop fanying about and there top 4 all the way.. They still have to play caught up on City/Pool.. But they have the dosh&some of the players to do it just not the manager

Yet again Simon Jordan is spot on 👍

Agreed.. it isn’t the owners out playing every week

@fezzy5591

2 жыл бұрын

But they're responsible for poor recruitment

I'm a Liverpool fan. And I think Germany have got it right with the 50 plus 1 model of the clubs and Simon your wrong the supporters are the where the money comes from. If the there wasn't much support for united around the world they wouldn't get the sponsorship an commercial deals they get. They want there name associated with united because the name travels around the world.

Utd were spoilt with sir alex, they have got so used to being dominant in football and now they will never replace him. Utd mistake was getting someone in on a temporary basis. Who will give their all for someone who won't be in charge at the end of the season. They need to give their next manager time to build a legacy and develop young talent.

The same people wanting to protest are the same guys who love Maguire, rashford and tell people they should build the team around mctominay 😂😂😂😂😂 our fans are a joke

1, Banter Utd Supporters for thinking they've a right to win everything 2, The Player's for not being good enough, not putting a shift in despite been payed the best in the land 3, The Owners for wasting billions of dollars & achieving nothing for it

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

Man Utd is supposed to compete for trophies each season. That's the expectation given the revenue and size of the club. It's not arrogance....the club is being run into the ground and the fans have to fight for it

@itsmeprasad1987

2 жыл бұрын

Win everything we just want to compete.. just give the manager what they need to compete

@fearlessformidableferociou8623

2 жыл бұрын

Top4 is the new standard, and even that looks like it's slipping away

A quality accurate rant from Simon… as always

Their fans need to take a fair portion of the blame. When they was at their highest moment post Fergie they let Peps success and style influence them turning on Jose because of his style. After that summer and the collapse that followed where the players believed their own hype and that it was the managers fault they haven’t got close since. They haven’t got anywhere close to the points tally they got after that 2nd season. Now the fans finally seen it was always the players

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

Okay, as a Utd fan I accept a small element of blame. But that blame is absolutely tiny compared the blame that is at the glazers boots.

@ivanaleksandartsanev1693

2 жыл бұрын

If we had any other GK rather than De Gea that season, we would never have finished 2nd. He was the best shot stopper in the world at that moment and probably earned us 15-18 points single-handedly. We didn't deserve 2nd place based on our performances.

I don't like the logic of "oh it won't work anyway so why bother." If there is a serious issue that a large group feel strongly about they should voice their opinion. The Glazer's are a problem. They need to hear.

@Akinwalesegun

2 жыл бұрын

it wont work because the people protesting dont have a viable alternative, do they have anyone will to take over? do they know what the next owner will be like?its just come across likena spoilt brat crying he hasnt had his 3rd dinner

Can we not talk about the game on Sunday??!! Harry Maguire getting booed had more coverage! 😴

it's not like united don't spend enough money on players and wages its player to blame not the owners

Yes, a football club is a business but it's a very special kind of business, especially in the case of football in England. You can't expect to run it like Walmart (or pick your favorite giant American corporation). For the Glazers though, it's clear that Man U is just a marketing cash cow. They've signed (a good number of) vanity players that can sell merchandize. That's all they seem to care about. If Ten Haag has any kind of sense about him, he'll run as far and fast as he can in the opposite direction. If doesn't matter who the manager or players are if the club doesn't exist to compete. No reasonable football fan expects unlimited spending and unlimited success, but they do expect a club to have objectives beyond just making money. I'm not a Man U fan but I don't think it's good for English, or any football if this profits-over-people attitude is allowed to take over the sport. I don't actually believe it's a good attitude for society-at-large but that's another argument for a different day. You can be both a successful football club AND make money. It doesn't have to be one of the other.

The issue is that glazers Don't back managers esp when it comes to transfers. eg I remember mourinhno wanted a center back but never got it

Unfortunately protests like this dont really work, Newcastle fans did this sort of thing time and time again for over 14 years. 10,000 people even cancelled their season tickets and it didnt do much. Mike Ashely was going to sell when he wanted to. As horrible and depressing as it is you really just have to wait until they are ready to sell.

@jayzee9149

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I totally agree. Drive attendances down below 50,000 and boycott the club shop..That might start to make a difference as the cashpoint machine the Glazers love might start running short...Why would venture capitalists let go of this money machine ?

Well said Simon. Hit man united where it hurts in the owners, pockets and there profits

Simon is spot on 👏🏻👏🏻

I love listening to Simon. Yet, as a United fan, even in the good times,I have not wanted the Glazers there. Is there a solution?. Possibly not. Money is riduclous. I believe as an owner, you heart should be in it. Football clubs, however large or small are important to the areas they represent.

We've wanted them out since day one. This isn't new?

United and the owners/players are taking advantage of the fact that fans will show up week in week out. no matter how bad they pplay; that how strong the Utd fan base is; which makes it a effortless cash cow for the glazers. changing owners might help that but it will never happen without the glazers wanting to leave. protesting wont do anything

The LBO method used by the Glazers to buy the club shouldnt be allowed again in football. However, they have spent A LOT of money on players. This is undeniable. Is it their fault that the money they have spent on players has been wasted? (for the most part)

I be would like to see nike Ashley have a go at running MUFC I think he would be perfect 👍🏻

The real problem is the fan's. They just can't handle not having a competitive team.and the Glazier's are the easy target.

@fearlessformidableferociou8623

2 жыл бұрын

💯👍🏼

It's hard for the fans but Simon is right. If you win everything is all right.

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

In 2010, they still protested the Glazers despite still being competitive

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

Protested from 2005-2013 too though. So you are literally wrong

Simon thinks leveraged debt is better than investment in football.

This comes down to...'what are the end objectives of the business'....PSG, Chelsea, Man City wants football success with little to none expected financial return....Man Utd is very different....They operate for financial return with football success seen as a necessary component..... It results in Man Utd losing some of its financial advantage over those other clubs....If no debt repayments or dividends were taken out over the last 15 years then a new 100,000 Old Trafford would already be built.

People keep paying money and buying merchandise so they won't give two shits

These two are absolutely brilliant.. pretty much just make a scrip to get the most views 🤣

Glazers are the owners tho so the buck ultimately begins and ends with them , nobody forces them to put players on stupid contracts . Or hire bankers to make football decisions ,or not communicate with the fans ,or run the club in debt , or take divends out , or be more interested in commercial ventures then football. Best thing for all parties is for them to sell up .

Excellent analysis by Simon. As a united fan. It hurts to agree with him

Simons spot on their 👍 it's been a combination of bad buy's and lazy recruitment since the Fergie days. The club needs better footballing people behind the scenes to recruit and manage it. Most of these current first team players are just not good enough to compete with the likes of city and Liverpool and it's as simple as that. Get rid and start again but buy player's that have both quality and a good work rate.

@ianbaptiste6388

2 жыл бұрын

What about the guys in suits in the Shadows who are responsible for spending the club money

@chrisred2570

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianbaptiste6388 they don't have a direct impact on what happens on the pitch. But I agree they are partly to blame as they don't care what goes on as long as there big pay cheques keep rolling in. The likes of Woodward and Murtough haven't been good enough for United.

Phil Jones on 150k a week is all you need to know about United!

United fans need to focus on why the likes of Maguire and Pogba still big parts of the club, yeah the board signed them but the fans were happy to spend big on them but then blame the board when they stink up the field.

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

Utd fans are blinded by passion and emotion, and have busy 9-5 jobs, are stuck in traffic and have kids to worry about. They don’t exactly have time to professionally analyse the signings their club makes do they? The owners on the other hand? Clearly not Utd fans, and have all the time and expertise available to them. Literally no excuse why they can’t critically analyse the transfer market and execute signings successfully. The board (which is 90% filled with people named Glazer) have been getting it wrong for 8 years now. They are either incompetent or literally don’t care. And really can’t decide which it is.

Simon is spot on again. The Glazers are not great owners in terms of managing the football side of the club but they have invested a lot of money on the playing squad. The players are disgraceful. Overpaid, overrated and not worth being at a club as big as man Utd. I'd put more blame on the players than anyone else at that club.

Real talk

The Glozers run the Bucs the same way, like a business w no regard for the fans except they have Tom Brady. As Simon says, it's the way of today's sport. it's an investment. Arsenal's owner is exactly the same and it sets a poor culture for the staff and players. Liverpool are lucky to have John Henry who actually likes sport.

@deniz1139

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but liverpool owners are stingy as hell

@swen1208

2 жыл бұрын

@@deniz1139 they do moneyball buy cheap players and turn them into diamonds. He does this with the Redsox and they have 4 World series to the Yankees 1 since he took over as onwer for the Redsox before it's the Yankees 26 to the Redsox 4.

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

@@deniz1139 nothing wrong with being stingy. As long as the target is ‘be the best’ who cares how you get there? It’s better to not spend and be the best, then spend and be 7th

@LARK-ht7kd

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for The players should look at themselves. What happens in the boardroom is no real concern of theirs because it pays the silly wages

Glazernomics are a poison to this club

One of the biggest spenders in Europe in the last 10 years! The fact is, if united was performing the fans wouldn't really be bothered about the owners

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

Yet they were protesting the Glazers in 2010 after winning 3 straight league titles and a UCL in the last 3 seasons....get ur facts straight

@fearlessformidableferociou8623

2 жыл бұрын

@@micahkiyimba8641 but why ?

@stevenmonaghan1301

2 жыл бұрын

Are the demonstrations being held in London were most Man U fans live.??

@fearlessformidableferociou8623

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenmonaghan1301 😅🤣😅🤣, probably a good idea, coz i believe utd's investment / commercial arm is based there

@johnryanm7553

2 жыл бұрын

That's the truth,if united were bombing united fans wouldn't be arsed if Attila the Hun owned the club

The players are a product and victim of the environment the club has built post-Ferguson. It's not their fault the club gave them stupid amounts of money and it's not really their fault that the environment is the way it is. For a team this big we have coaches that have no business being there, a lack of a playing style after so many years, and an incoherent transfer policy. This is a management issue caused by the board and their unwillingness to let a manage get full control.

Ed Woodward ran the player recruitment with such naivety, desperation, indecision and insecurity, if United were in expert hands, people like Woodward would be nowhere near player recruitment.

Simon is correct. Point at the players. They're milking the club with Little to no care for the club or the fans.

I don't think Simon understands the 'hydra effect' lol 😆

I’m a lifelong United fan. I don’t like the Glazers, but United have spent the same amount as City have over the last few years. United also have the highest wage bill out of all of the top leagues! So why has the club failed?? It’s clear as day! Poor recruitment and decisions made by people who know nothing about the game! With a proper football hierarchy including a good sporting director, the club will start competing again

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

So who makes those decisions? Who puts that hierachy in place? The Owners!

@specter1019

2 жыл бұрын

@@micahkiyimba8641 yes, but the owners all fully aware that it hasn’t worked. They also know that the sponsorship revenue will eventually dry up if the club fails to win trophies. Ed Woodward wanted to make all the decisions. From what we’ve seen, Richard Arnold wants to delegate to the experts, so hopefully the club will be heading in the right direction from now. Time will tell

@danieljoseph369

2 жыл бұрын

They spent barely anything until Sir Alex left, leaving a team of below standard academy players and ageing legends

@specter1019

2 жыл бұрын

@@danieljoseph369 that’s because Sir Alex was still producing the results. We lost the title to City, then they spent £24mil on Van Persie and we won the title 12 points clear. If we can get to that level then a lower spend wouldn’t be much of an issue. Look at Liverpool. Their net spend is 1/5 of Man City

@danieljoseph369

2 жыл бұрын

@@specter1019 Sir Alex is a genius much like Klopp

Jordan is correct. The Protest will make absolutely no difference. United are a business and as owners they will leave the club when they feel it’s the right business decision. Pure and simple. The fans can protest, that’s their right but it will be to no avail. United fans are frustrated and I understand that, but they are no more frustrated than Arsenal fans or Everton fans. United fans had an unprecedented run of success in which their club averaged winning a Prem Title every 2 years for 26 years. That’s not going to happen again. With that a certain amount of a sense of entitlement may be at work here. Bad decisions and failure on the pitch is part and parcel a part of football. If fans feel like protesting they can do that but United fans should thank the stars they are not Everton fans, or any other team that hasn’t had the kind of success they have. The Glazers share the blame for putting the people in place that hired the people who manage the club and recruit the players. It’s been a total organizational failure. The belief that Changing ownership will change the fortunes of the club is naive. The best fans can hope for is that the next Manager is more Sir Alex, than Ole, Ralf, Jose, Louis and David.

Worst thing about owners like the glazers or trillion trophy Asia, any complaint, protest etc, will not phase them one slight bit, these people are bulletproof when it comes to business, heartless they do not care

The problem at Utd is manager choice. They spend enough to compete with the best.

I think the players and staff feel that with their club the sky is not the limit. They will never dominate Europe because as soon as something reliable is created, the Glazers will pull out again, keeping them at a Quarterfinal CL, 4th of the league level. It's this sense of hopelessness that drains the fans, the lack of real perspective

Simon Please become a Director of Everton FC and talk some sense into into the Board.

Every thing starts from the top

Protests may be background noise. But what the Glazers should understand better is that fans are on the edge. If things don't improve, it's only a matter of time before fans start taking extreme measures, such as not going to games. I think the Glazers will be smart to address these issues as soon as possible.

Spot on from SJ , because your not going to get unmotivated players who don’t want to put a shift in to dig deep and win you crucial games because they have the attitude of I’ll be here after ralf ragnick so it doesn’t matter how I play because I’ll be here after you , ralf should shake things up and say if I think your coming off the pitch and you’ve not put in 110% I’ll swap you with someone from the u23 because your not entitled to a 1st team place you have to earn that spot like elanga has this season even if he isn’t the finished article he puts in a shift every game and so does Fred and a couple others too many entitled frauds at this club

Spot on Simon.

Are their are any fans out here that are not pointing at the players. Also United fans were protesting from the beginning when United were winning. And what is wrong with being more out raged with because United are playing bad.

Privatization means profits are the most important thing, whether is running a public service or a football club. so when something is privatized its not about running a good service or being a good club its about profits for the shareholders, they don't care about trophies or philosophies or the fans. Share holders are only involved to try and make money. PRIVATIZATION IS BAD, ITS BASICALLY MEANS PROFITS ARE NOT RE-INVESTED BUT GIVEN TO SHAREHOLDERS. PRIVATIZATION WORKS FOR THE SHARE HOLDERS AND ONLY THE SHAREHOLDERS.

All the fans can do is not show up to the matches and not buy anything from the shop. That literally is the only thing that will work!

what is a holix?

The players played well for Mourinho & Ole...then threw both managers 'under the bus'. Ralph hasn't even had the opportunity to get 'thrown under the bus', the players have ploughed into him on the pavement ! Even Pep, would pull the remainder of his grey bristle out of his head with this lot !! Players are the cancer of this great club, end of !!

@Timbone07

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Everton thrashed us 4-0 under Ole. People's memories are so short. We have been bad for years but they signed Ronaldo and everyone shut up. Mourinho was called moaninho for pointing out problems, the same ones Ralf is pointing out. Now media outlets like Manchester Evening News say we should have listened to him lol. They were the number one outlet mocking him

The team sucks because of woodwards contract handlings. The owners owned Woodwards performance and strategic planning of the football hierarchy.

Totally agree with Simone the players are shameless even if we had Guardiola or Klopp they won’t make a difference they would have gotten rid of most of them .

I’m a Man United fan - the fact is that the blame at this current moment is shared amongst the Club owners and the current squad as they are not performing nor showing any desire. Simon’s point usually seems to be lost as arguments are seen as binary outcomes - 0,1 (True, False), when in reality this is all made up of several, continuously moving, components. The point is that poor decision-making, paired with a squad that has become aimless and soft leads to extensive and prolonged issues. It can be a lot easier to make a mess than to clean it up, and i think that is very much the case here - it will take a couple of years of making better decisions than worse consistently, before the tanker starts moving in the correct direction. Man United is a huge club and is need of investment in quality, hunger, and talent - the club is always bigger than any owner, manager, or player.

Ralf needs to move on to a BIG CLUB!!!!!

Hahahahaha Simon again on Point 👏👊

the problem is people are taking a short term view. I have been a supporter for over 50years and can remember good and bad times along the way. No Team has a right to be always on top. Relax it will be our turn again at some stage, unfortunately slating the Team and club is a hobby for some.

@samwize28

2 жыл бұрын

Accepting not being on top is one thing. Accepting being ran by arguably the most incompetent and greedy owners in history is another thing.

United fans have been protesting the glazers even when fergie was busy winning everything. The premise of the argument is invalid. It's just worse now that united doesn't have the greatest manager of all time. Because that's what it takes to win anything under this ownership. A world class manager with a ridiculously strong personality...oh wait ..didn't we have Mourinho? LVG? Also...where's the villification of the players?? Do you live in a cave? The players are criticized nearly every day 😂😂😂😂

Simon is spot on

The stadium is slowly falling apart and behind other grounds, our training ground has been neglected for years, our womens team is being ignored and underfunded, the management of the club at every level is a joke. There has been hardly any investment back into the community compared to what Man City has done. Recruitment is a joke, our sports science team is a joke, the dividends being taken out of the club looks horrendous on the face of it, and then there is the performance on the pitch. I think the performances have been the spark to the powder keg that is our fanbase atm. The last thing the fans could count on was the effort for the badge that these players are supposed to put in. Now that they aren't even giving that the rot has set in at every level and the fans have had enough.

Correct

I agree a lot with what Simon says in general, but he needs to read through the fan forums and see the vitriol thy players like Pogba and Maguire receive.

Simon spot on

Ronaldo, Pogba, Sancho, Maguire, Shaw, Varane...Man U are not winning with all these guys in. Simon said it right the team sucks.

@worldsforliving

2 жыл бұрын

£75m a year in wages between the lot you've listed

All hail Simon long live the king

The players need to take responsibility for their performances, the Glazer's dont kick the ball around the pitch

Overpaying for mediocre players for ten years is the main problem.

Simon is on the money here.