Imagine UEFA pretending to be on the side of fans. If memory serves me correct, they took European footie off terrestrial TV and put it behind a paywall.

@user-xh8tw9su8f

5 ай бұрын

The Super League is a league for Spain and Italy. Because they are a failing league. The EPL is absolutely at a disadvantage. Because it is the most popular and competitive league. As a result, a Supe

@chadshaughnessy4217

5 ай бұрын

Excellent comment mate

@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere

4 ай бұрын

not to mention UEFAs complete disregard for fan safety, that Champions league final in Paris where they couldn't give two shits about the Liverpool fans getting into the stadium and putting them at a fan park in probably the most dangerous location. Uefa are absolute scum. Corrupt wannabe politicians skimming off the top and putting nothing into football. Imagine being so corrupt that you're seen as morally inferior to the Super League puppet masters in Saudi. If we want fan safety then it's a no brainer, the Saudis have shown that they know how to put on events that consider the fans as a factor, unlike Uefa who see fans as nothing more than plebs who should accept what they're given.

Jim is pure media through and through. He takes words twists the worst scenarios then uses that to drive a narrative to hype fans which nowadays leads to engagement and ultimately money for his media goon squad

@neilmccullagh3021

5 ай бұрын

He’s a clown, Simon makes a point then moves on to make a different that makes Jim’s sky mate look bad and Jim stops it every damn time

@SlyCarey

5 ай бұрын

He's useless

@LordHighness

5 ай бұрын

Jim's a hyperbole machine, basically. That's why talksport love him as an employee. He should be useless, he sits there discussing football when he's got no real football knowledge at all, it's embarrassing. But he knows how to sensationalise and be a typical media troll. He's absolutely appalling, he must have no real depth of character to do what he does, no integrity.

@martussfrank3903

5 ай бұрын

He always plays the dumb kid in the class but he is smart enough to know what he's doing.

From reading the comments here, it seems most commenters didn't listen to what Simon said. Just for people to know that Uefa and Fifa officials have stolen/misappropriated money from grass roots football than any league structure. Main thing for me is that we dont replace them with an equally or more corrupt entity.

The main point they missed is that the big prem clubs have zero need to join this. They already have the best league product by far (say that as a BL fan). The Italian and Spanish clubs can't stand that and that's why they want the Prem clubs in their competition. PL would be giving up it's dominant position by joining, with very little relative benefit (additional money will just drive up wages and transfer fees and further widen the gap to smaller teams). Super league is short term money grabbing without thinking about the long term health of the game.

@yasssighs6034

5 ай бұрын

Real Madrid makes money more than premier League teams

@jakefelix505

5 ай бұрын

What are u talking about. Ucl is draining the money and playera and the super league is giving less games and has a better format and spreading money around everyone else. We're u getting silly information... clubs that left already made the mistakes of living and have to pay Madrid anyway that's done pere for you so his already got them trapped.. its going to happen this is pap perez we talking bout here.

@issahussein1641

5 ай бұрын

you are wrong from first sentence! there will always be a need for extra money and footballing quality. The Super League does potentially provide that.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

There are only 4 spots available for the Champions league. That's the crux of the problem for the elite clubs in the UK. Their financial business models are unstable based on the current system

@bruno5137

5 ай бұрын

@@yasssighs6034 Real Madrid and Barcelona are an exception because they are so huge globally. But the Presidents of both clubs have made public statements that they want a new European competition because they just cannot keep up with revenue growth in the Premier League. The USA market is falling in love with the Premier League - and sports money in the USA makes even the Premier League look poor, so Real and Barca are thinking in 5, 10, 20, 30 years the Premier League will bank as much money in the USA as the NBA does, then not even the mighty pull of Real or Barca could compete with that, so we need a new European competition to protect ourselves.

Simon makes great points, Jim tries to spin it to please his paymasters

This was the reason the glazers never wanted to sell their full share! The club condemn the super league for now but they know one day this will be a reality + the increasing EPL tv rights 💰

Most of the fans of the big 6 in EPL were against the Super League with immediate protests when announced. Only Real Madrid stood firm and said this Super League will happen, all other teams caved in during the first week. What do these fans have to say now and the media too?

For premier league teams, they have all the money and tv deals so leaving would be crazy. For all other domestic leagues, this is the only way of being able to get an even playing field in order to compete. As for the CL argument and not being able to compete for it when joining this potential new set up. My opinion is, the European cup died when the CL was adapted no longer permitting all the champions of their domestic leagues. Instead, rewarding 3 -4 teams from the big 5 leagues their place instead while making real champions play multiple qualifiers. The game will keep evolving and I don’t see the issue with this super league for leagues outside the premier league which is a monster in itself in relation to finance and global appeal.

@izzyraj

5 ай бұрын

You can never have too much money. If the premier League is guaranteeing clubs 500mil, and the super League can guarantee 700mil, dont be surprised that they leave. The people who one these clubs are BUSINESS MEN.

@pauldrake9312

5 ай бұрын

Sorry but you are way off. Simon is spot on. Its a business. Seriously, playing Luton Town or Barcelona, you are arguing luton...lol. reality doesn't = right, but communism isn't the answer either

@Fenix-lr6ez

5 ай бұрын

You are literally embodiment of ignorance. The SuperLeague would only replace the Champions League, national leagues would be untouched. This has been said over and over and over by everyone involved in the SuperLeague project, but it seems some people can't get that in their heads

Simon: "Should want to hear what it is though shouldn't you?" The other 14 Premier League clubs: "Well how are we supposed to hear or listen to what they have to say when we aren't even invited anyway!?"

@trublu3282

5 ай бұрын

They weren't invited for the talk about the premier league either lol why would that change?

@Mac_Kymera

5 ай бұрын

@@trublu3282 because times have now changed and now all 20 clubs have a say in rule changes, PGMOL debates, policing etc etc so all 20 clubs should have a say in what happens now.

In this case Aston Villa could win the Premier League and then enter the third tier of European Competition instead of going to the top tier (right now the Champions League) this new setup just protects the current big clubs, so they won't lose the big international games if the fall out of the Top4. Chelsea would likely be a "STAR-League" team even though they will end up mid-table in the Prem, no accountability for domestic leagues for the big clubs and their local fans.

@BVking509

5 ай бұрын

Its not quite that bad, Aston Villa couldnt win a raffle if they were the only entry

@irinakatrina7234

5 ай бұрын

They've won more than most teams in the history of football@@BVking509

@Joker-et2je

5 ай бұрын

Villa ain’t a big club…get real dude‼️

@RedDevil27238

5 ай бұрын

Have you ever played dream league soccer

@izdatsumcp

5 ай бұрын

If Villa were actually good instead of a fluke, they would soon get to the top of European football under this new format. If, on the hand, they simply fluked the PL win, they would be out of the CL the next season under the current format.

So funny seeing English fans thinking that foreign investors are spending billions in football just because you are pretty... They want thier money back and if superleague is an opportunity they will join.

UEFA and FIFA are just mad that this could disrupt their 220 team World cup and 100 team Champions League. Oh yeah, can't forget about that expanded club world cup that literally nobody cares about. The Premier League is scared that other leagues could actually start making money.

@eL--RaL

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely Prem is just scared that they'll lose their financial advantage since all top 5 leagues will be financially equipped .. If this was favoring prem, they'd be gunning for it Prem knows that Money is the only reason they are on top and they are sh*tting in their Plastic pants becuz of the CWC, New UCL or even the Super LEAGUE

Keep in mind: Simon Jordan is a business man. This is his perspective. Business and money and profit.

@gipgap4

5 ай бұрын

And football is a business.

Simon is always on point 💯 never biased!!

Simon must have some money on this super league

Football is nothing without Fans.........Remember that well

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

I don't think the fans are needed anymore. You could easily put the fans into the stadium as digital projections. Make the noise through microphones. The players won't care less, as long as they are getting their £100,000 a week plus salaries! Would you care if you were a player? I wouldn't

People in uproar when the creation of the Premier League and Champions League showed how this could be done successfully. Clubs turned their backs on the Football League to have more control and more money from TV with the PL and created a bigger European competition. This is just a bigger version. I agree with Simon that Uefa and Fifa have had it good for too long with no competition. The competition has now started. Not that I agree with it, but football is a business.

@himself000

5 ай бұрын

Football is a sport and if there is a league inclusive to the clubs owned by the rich then why bother? Why try to progress your club in a normal way when the financial option of selling your club to the highest bidder is a much easier shortcut? Makes me respect the German model of fan ownership so much more. Formula One is boring when one team has a much faster car. I feel the same with football when certain teams are so much richer than others. For example Newcastle stank the league up for years and now suddenly they are supposed to be a big club because they are rich? They did absolutely nothing on the pitch to deserve this status. Yes they have a large fanbase but it still makes me uncomfortable that you can buy your way to the top simply by letting someone who's wealthy take a large stake of the ownership of your club.

All this just because the giants of Serie A and Spain are in huge debt and just want to find a way to compete with the amount of money generated by the EPL's TV rights. And then you have an easier way for the Saudi teams to be able to enter to compete with European teams on top of it.

@dsvp4825

5 ай бұрын

It's interesting how even with budgets many times smaller la liga and the Bundesliga both have more teams in the Rd of 16 than the premiere League

@irinakatrina7234

5 ай бұрын

We've had Spurs, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and City in Champions League Finals in recent memory. No other domestic league gets close to that. Our two remaining candidates will probably be in the semi finals and final this year, yet again. Newcastle and United bombing out at the group stage this season doesn't really illustrate anything I don't think.@@dsvp4825

@jakefelix505

5 ай бұрын

Madrid makes more money than any club out there what is u talking about 😂

@shidadokongo617

5 ай бұрын

@@jakefelix505 Madird is another arm of the Spanish government. Take away Spanish state sponsorship, Madrid will be the equivalent of Luton in PL.

@Lordofbags

5 ай бұрын

@@jakefelix505English premier league clubs generated more revenue than all bundesliga and la liga clubs combined last season. It’s been like that for awhile. English clubs don’t need the super league.

When was the clash??

Jim, and most of the people calling in apparently, totally fail to understand what this ruling is all about. This isn't about setting up a super league, it's about breaking the monopoly power of FIFA and UEFA, which has to be a good thing surely?

@andrewwright4195

5 ай бұрын

Because they brainwashed by media uefa and fifa

@stretfordender11

5 ай бұрын

It’s about propping Madrid and Barcelona up because they’ve ruined la liga by monopolising tv rights themselves. You are deluded

@benfuller2890

5 ай бұрын

it's not as simple as that lol

Simon is spot on. Though many in England will condemn him. But many outside England will support him

The perfect scenario in which people are now beginning to create an argument for and against. This will now happen.

Collective responsibility my ass Simon….. the amount of money taken out of the game is something esp.

Thanks for talksport put Rory on tonight live i love it ♥️♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘

People can’t afford to go abroad every other week for a full season

Money driven change is not always good change. Simon doesn't appear to see the bigger cultural and social picture that emerges in sport when it is purely profit driven. Football clubs emerged as social institutions dedicated to the game (not business) of football and are now in the process of full transformation into global brands. Eventually they will become as irrelevant to real life as any detached organisation dedicated to a global strategy of profit. The end result will be a boring spectacle of extreme wealth that will jar with ordinary lives and to which entry will become increasingly difficult. Ordinary fans will only watch on TV - they already do with the PL which is too expensive for most - as the stadium will be filled with corporate guests and wealthy fans like the Saudi stadiums in the current World Club Cup. By this logic why should Liverpool play at Anfield at all? Why not relocate to Saudi Arabia or the US? Why not fill the stadium with extras posing as fans like the "fans" at the Qatar World Cup? Illusion will replace reality in football if it makes more money.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

I guess football is a global brand now. The question is why allow only UEFA to control a global product that's bigger than itself.

@LewdConnoisseur

5 ай бұрын

​@@chrisoconnor4743 Why allow more competition when football is already bloated with too many games to watch as it is?

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

@@LewdConnoisseur I think the crux of the argument is why should UEFA have a monopoly on football? It becomes unfair from an ethical "competitive" business perspective. Hence the rules have been changed on that basis. Clubs should have the right to buy into another similar set up if they so wish (whether we agree with it or not).

So, it's just 2 major European clubs, who both just happen to have been in financial trouble for a while now, that have made this representation to the European court. Does it follow then that they will be the ones proposing the format and invitations to a new Super League?

Simon is exactly right. If it is setup as just the next league or leagues after winning promotion to them then I feel it would be fine. As long as you can get promoted to it and relegated from it. Their is no difference from how the EFL has evolved, I'm sure in tue early days of football teams only competed against their neighbours for a time being and as it got more popular and transport got easier they started to compete against teams further out. Like maybe a northern team against a team from the south. The next logical step is a league of the best in Europe...

The bigger number of clubs makes it harder to stop as the individual leagues could punish a few clubs in their leagues, but they cant do it across multippe in every league

Id say it will lose lot of fans. Be a shame but as someone who has supported liverpool for 40 years id not be interested in a super league at all. Champions league is a super league and liverpool have the best history in England in it. Top 4 race is exciting in the prem, title race is exciting and relegation race is exciting! Super league will be much more boring

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

I'm a Liverpool fan as well. But the current system isn't sustainable in the current format for the top 8 elite clubs. Their financial revenue streams are too unstable because there is no guarantee of a top 4 spot anymore. It's just too precarious. What would happen if Liverpool didn't get into the top 4 in the next 3 years for example? With injuries that's a realistic possibility and all the owners know that

Jim White's whataboutery went off the scale here. The truth is that the SL would have zero effect on clubs like Everton/Palace/Etc - the PL would have run as normal, the revenues would have continued to pour in AND those clubs would even have an opportunity to play CL or EL midweek as the bigger clubs would be off playing SL. Which is better than what they have in the current system. The point of the SL is a vehicle to reign in the PSG/City/Newcastle machine - you want to play at the top table? Then you play by our rules and stop cheating FFP and if you don't then you will be out. UEFA had their chance to stop City/PSG and they failed.

Competition is a GOOD thing. Literally. More money for every club and the fans get a variety of stuff to watch i see no issue. Other leagues will be able to compete the product on the pitch will be better.

Question is, can they get this league to generate the atmosphere & competitiveness within the stadiums we often see in the EPL, UCL etc. plus attract the best talent? If so then maybe it could be something interesting to watch...

There are only 4 spots available for the Champions league. That's the crux of the problem for the elite clubs in the UK. Their financial business models are unstable based on the current system.

You either evolve and improve your product or get surpassed by those with more vision and looking to the future!

If Super League comes out and mandates meritocracy (promotion/relegation) I think the other leagues could have some problems as that was the biggest issue with the Super League.

We need rules put in place now,,If an English club join this Super league and want to come back to England they must start in the 3rd division

the intellectual disparity between these two is like chalk and cheese.

How would match going away fans pay to go around europe every other week to support the club like they do now go? The price to support the team away from home would be silly money, the away sections would start becoming empty because people wouldnt be able to afford it.

@ian_r125

5 ай бұрын

I think the idea is to play it around the globe, to get more people involved to get more money. Like a glorified pre season

I get people's issues with UEFA and FIFA but I do think there's something not very palatable about a competition run by "A22 Sports Management" I just hope the rules of the game don't start changing, like the minutes of each half, how set pieces are taken, what is and isn't considered a tackle or adding useless gimmicks to the game

Make the Club World Cup more like the International World Cup and dispose of these league cups that no-one actually cares about. Have the teams from the top 15 leagues who finish in the top 5 of their season qualify for group stages similar to the World Cup and have it every 2 years. Residents in all countries have favourite teams in multiple leagues. Imagine if you had the home teams fans + travelling away support + the fans who follow that team from a different league but live in the city it's being played in. It would equal huge crowds and bring importance to this tournament. The money generated for home clubs from these crowds would be great too and much needed for them.

The amount of money generated and then taken out of the game is not progress the game…. Paying player 100s of thousands per week is not progress the game….

I want my team to compete with traditional domestic rivals, not see fans having to travel across the continent every other week to see their team play against mid-ranking clubs from the French or Danish leagues. Within no time, the concept of away fans will be consigned to history.

Pretty short-sighted analysis from Simon - only looking at it from a business owner perspective. The reality is that aside from having no meritocracy, a Super League would price average fans out of viewing and attending games. Every match would be made a PPV and only sheiks and toffs would be able to afford match tickets because of the value of the league and the games being played in the most expensive stadiums around Europe. It would be another example of the super rich making football their playground. The Premier League is already the best product in football, the games are usually always fast and furious, and there is always an underdog that scalps big opponents. I can't imagine anything more dull than watching Man Utd vs Real Madrid or Liverpool vs Juventus 6 times a year with no risk or incentive in the games

Damn stupid idea. Needs to fail totally. Fans want their teams to win the Prem and UCL.

Meanwhile Leverkusen sit top of the Bundesliga and Girona top La Liga. These "big" clubs might want to focus on their form on the pitch before considering themselves bigger than the rest.

The Premier League did not take English football out of England. The champions cup becoming a league did not take English football out of England. The ESL would.

Mint rory is on talksport live tonight 😘😘😘😘♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

Simon spot on as always

Go on Simon

They already complain that they have too many games.

The European super league will mimic the distances of the Brazilian championship. I just want to see if European clubs can maintain the intensity by playing in 3 different countries a week.

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

The next James Bond? That’ll be Mr Simon Jordan.

Are any of these teams in any league in Europe profitable?

As long as my club is involved !!.

Why doesn't the PL spend their money on lower PL clubs to increase their stadium size. MLS and the NFL do this. That why they can compete better.

WTF are those glasses that Jordan is wearing? Looks like he's off scuba diving.... 🤣🤣🤣

@SteveModlin

5 ай бұрын

There a bit Michael Caine esq 😂

What will happen is that if you’re a fan of the teams that get into the super league instead of being able to go and see them live, you’ll have the opportunity to pay an exorbitant subscription to see them on tv play a team you have no interest in at some ungodly hour of the day. Meanwhile the premier league will be reduced to the standard of League One.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

Most of the Premiership matches involve pointless games that nobody has an interest in. For example Brentford v Fulham, or Palace v Luton. Who cares about them.

@garylago9123

5 ай бұрын

@@chrisoconnor4743 if I’m a Chelsea fan I’d rather watch them play brentford at Stamford bridge than see them on tv playing Lazio in New York

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

​@@garylago9123It's a good point. But I would expect Chelsea to still play Lazio at Stamford Bridge. I don't know the advantage of it being played in New York, other than the final. Already the FA have moved the semi finals of the FA Cup to Wembley, (undermining the whole competition) so the clowns in charge at the FA have already been doing it I would say.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

The new proposal is that the games will be screened live for free. Already BT and Sky charge exorbitant fees. And I see no reason why the games won't continue to be played midweek during reasonable European hours.

Uefa and Premier league needed a proper shake up, had it too easy for too long and got greedy. If all games are free, SKY/TNT will have to react.

Europe is back! No more Islamic state teams located in Brexitland will be allowed in the new league feelsgood

Simon you should have the same energy when talking PGMOL, we should be able to criticize current system

Stupid move trying it again especially now that fans are back in the stadium last time it was when no fans as there I expect games to be abandoned very soon

@eL--RaL

5 ай бұрын

Hypocrites Prem as always.. SCARDY cats..Money is the only way they could Compete with LALIGA and Serie A so they are scared to see all leagues in line financially.. The CWC and the new Champions leagues are here to stay whether you like it or not, other TRUE authentic football leagues will become financially equipped and you'd be 3rd AGAIN! 😂

I can see a day where qualification into Europe is based on coefficient points and not table position. UEFA and FIFA love their coefficients even if no one understands them.

There's a reason Jim White is no longer on Sky. I find him irritating when he talks over people and just repeats the same line time and time again. You couldn't say he's capable of debate.

Apparently this proposed competition will just be replacing the Euro competitions and be in 3 leagues. If the Premier league is untouched it might be worth looking at but then would it change once they have attracted the best teams? Man City have said no so I read so I'd like to know what the rest of the Prem say. Before everyone says no remember UEFA are corrupt and no fan of the Premier League. I heard UEFA have already backtracked on their proposed new format to the Champions League. And this new proposed comp has said it will be televised for free. I think Simon is right and clubs should listen but the hardest thing would be trusting them I think.

No one stopped them from leaving,and it's because of super league I believe everton are getting picked on by the prem to please top 6!

Simon thinks he knows it all

@gooblegooble99

5 ай бұрын

An empty vessel makes the loudest noise as I’m sure I’ve heard him say. I had to turn this one off as he talks so much and says so little. Usually I find him funny in small doses but I think I listened to too much of it today!

@DigitalNomad.1

5 ай бұрын

The Piers Morgan of sports radio...

Simon is simply paid to be the contrarian voice; doesnt matter what the topic is, Simon will disagree and speak fast and loud and use lots of big words

Simon Pts are very valid. Some of this discussion actually transcends football & crosses over into life. Economics is at the Center of most things. This being one of them I cannot lie with you this bred is out of capitalism but then again PL & UCL is. We just have to get on with it. This is the world we live in.

Let me ask everyone is it fair under uefa rules girona cant play champions league because their owned by city or what about if qatar bought united they would not be able to play champions league as well same if jim radcliffe bought them as he owns nice.

Super league my ass…. FIFA EUFA and top clubs forget football belongs to the people…..

I have no particular love for UEFA but they absolutely have the right to stop teams that qualify for the Champions League through their domestic leagues from participating if they choose to leave that system and play in a protected league with no relegation. In this case it is their ball and they absolutely can take it home.

What is Simon on about. It is totally different as a fan of a prem league team I go to all games home and away and it is financially draining. There is no way I would be able to abroad every other week. And yes fifa is corrupt but lets make it clear Saudi money is that clean? Will they not be corrupt :/. Fans getting to away games is going to be a nightmare just to start with

To be fair to simon at the time it first came about he said this will happen in the end jim was talking iit down at the time in his usuall hypo way its business and is there to make money ,watch jim turn when celtic and rangers are included

I'm not a big fan of a European super league. The domestic league with four tiers has been around for nearly 150 years and should be preserved. I don't want to see that messed up. Plus for fans, they will have to spend so much money to fly to Spain or Italy for away games every other week. I have no problem with UEFA revamping the Champions League, but please don't create any European Super League.

I r3member Simon always said it would come back

I'm not having Simon wouldn't have kicked off if he still owned Palace

Jim really thinks fans across the globe tune in to watch Luton lol😂

simon speaking facts 🤞🏾😤

It would only work if it replaced the champions league not the premier league ...plus would it only be the same teams in it every year or would you have to qualify to play in it like the champions league...plus how would it affect the premier league if only the same six are getting all the cash it would make the league even more unfair than it is now

There is still no meritocracy to this, the domestic cup competitions would be destroyed. The lower leagues would be decimated no chance of playing big boys the romance drama of our National game would be gone. How long before weakened teams in the prem league to make sure they are full strength for euro games could go on there is so much wrong with this. And Simon is right as in cold hard cash wins but trying to dress it up as it doesn’t change much what we have now is plain wrong.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

The domestic cups are destroyed already. Just look at the reserve teams that the Premiership clubs field in those competitions. It all started with Man Utd not playing in the FA Cup back in the early 2000 I seem to remember.

Wish they’d stop clashing 😂

About time the so called big teams fucked off and left us to our own proper demostic league

If nothing else, FIFA and EUFA will be forced to take a serious/honest look at themselves. They chased money (that they corruptly misuse) just like the ESL is basically looking to do (solely Barcelona/Real Madrid). This whole notion that fans want to see their favorite clubs around the globe (conversations about ESL matches in USA) is bull. I would say this is more so the casual fan (i.e. Messi "its popular" casual fan not MLS fans) is who they reference when they make this argument. I'm perfectly fine watching my Everton on TV, Shalke 04 on Bundesliga highlights, etc. FIFA/UEFA reduce the fixture schedule with less teams, travel, etc. Who asked for more clubs in the club world cup? Who asked for the nations league? FIFA/EUFA are partly to blame for this from the beginning.

@sando99

5 ай бұрын

Sorry but, using the word ‘honest’ in the same sentence as FIFA and UEFA is just wrong.

At the moment this looks to be driven by Real, Barca and a few Italian clubs and without much interests from many big European clubs including those in the EPL who are happily enjoying the riches the the 'biggest league in the world' produces and have little need to join a Euro Super League. However if the Saudis get involved in this, I fear the worst. Money talkes and you only have to look how the Saudis have gobbled up Boxing and Golf with their billions of Riyals. With Saudi money involved I can see a trickle of clubs signing up for the Euro super league becoming a torrent. The same thing happened in the summer when big name players already paid extremely handsomely chose to turn their back on the highest tiers of football for a career in a wretched Saudi league simply because they could earn more money than they could ever hope to spend. And thats the players, who you would hope would have some pride and love for football and perhaps ignore the filthy riches form Saudi Arabia. If players aren't sentimental enough to turn down the money, we can be damn well sure club owners won't be.

1st time i agree with Simon

I think a lot of people are missing a bigger picture point. FIFA aside for the moment, UEFA isnrun by people who ONLY care about lining their pockets whixh also means protecting specific elite clubs so they can maintain the status quo. There are minimal real peotections to guard against corruption, backroom deals. Appointments almost seem to be lifetime appointments. UEFA has a duty of care to protect football and all Euro clubs as a governing body. Its not its job to protect 5 or 6 clubs but all clubs. Examples: #1: CL Competition Clubs that fall out of CL go down to Europa. Why? They didn't earn the right to remain so clearly its a way of protecting prize money for said big teams. The truth is football thrives when there are consequences and UEFA have watered it down for their own ends. #2: Prize Money The astonishing difference between what clubs get in the Champions League vs Conference League is disgusting. Absolutely Champ L should be rewarded accordingly. But to make the Conference League prize money so small is contemptable. One is left with the thought that UEFA don't care about the grassroots of football and do not care about nurturing football. . here has been a continuous

If every team in every top flight European league has a chance to participate, I’d be interested to hear what the ESL has in mind. But not until then. Should be a 100% merit based competition where ALL CLUBS have to go through some sort of qualification process. Period.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

I agree in principle. But sponsors, fans around the world, TV revenue want to watch the big clubs. Unfortunately, Villa don't really interest the majority of TV fans around the world. Money rules unfortunately. That's the harsh reality of the world we live in now.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

If the big clubs truly want to get their way, they would ultimately create a cricket IPL system. Guaranteed massive income each which doesn't fluctuate year by year.

@Laura-oz9tv

5 ай бұрын

​@@chrisoconnor4743villa have won a European Cup unlike Arsenal and Spurs

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

There is potentially more I agree. But it's sustainable and guaranteed money, unlike the current system for them. Sadly business ethics rarely exists these days, so I doubt they will consider the fans too much, because their main revenue streams come from TV and commercial revenue.

@chrisoconnor4743

5 ай бұрын

@@Laura-oz9tv That's very true. And clubs like Forest and Leeds have been left behind just like Villa, despite their rich Histories. Villa are riding a wave at the moment while Emery stays. The moment he leaves, they'll sink back into mid table obscurity again, unless a super rich owner comes in so you can compete at the highest level year in and year out. I'm happy for Villa, just ride the wave while you can. Because i doubt it will last very long unfortunately. That's the nature of the system.

Simon is saying now that the super league was just a panic gemerated by the media..... eh dude you basically made your name off of the story and EVERYBODY hated it Has he lost his memory or something, veey odd

Just do the super league, it's not like the premier league and some of the others are competitive anyway. It's a money game and money has greatly unbalanced the league and made it a farce really. And Brighton's competitive is small, they can have their best players continuously brought until they fall down the table ala Southampton. And they are miles off the league title.

why is spurs in the big six ?

Can't wait for the independent regulator to come soon enough!

The last time this Super League was in the news there seemed to be almost Universal Outrage against it. Now, suddenly there seems to be an almost complete collapse of resistance. Jordan, Bent, some "random" Man City fan - are people being paid as fake supporters of this? Bizarre. I actually don't know what Jordan was saying about it the last time it was in the news but I am guessing he was part of the outrage.

I totally get As a Domestic fan This is a Problematic idea. But as an international fan i am in a weird zone. But i also know ESL will replace UCL for sure & after 10-20 years It will have same prestigious History as UCL . UCL also started at some point. So UCL is not my concern that's a Thing u can replace . But Its what PL was doing for Decades . Draining All players from other small country's Leagues letting foreign Investors take Over. Wasn't that Killing essence of football? Letting Saudi Money pouring into league buying best players from Other small Leagues. Money few months ago. So Business & ESL is a natural thing, Sports will always be Business cuz when u let in investors they need growth not Debt . Or else why they would Invest their Money? SO ESL is Natural Evolution of Sports Business , the Future Like it or not.

@ian_r125

5 ай бұрын

Every league has been doing that for decades. Even today right now, the likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are tempting players with bigger salaries than the EPL can afford.

@darknebula455

5 ай бұрын

Yes . PL was just Prime example but Every big clubs did it & all fans gladly accepted it cuz their own club bought Big players .So why are they complaining Now that the investors want return from their Money they poured into Ur team ? Its Business Sports is a Business & U cant restrict Open Market . Like it or not @@ian_r125

Id he asking fifa and uefa for that 20m back

Not Again

FIFA n UEFA don't listen to fans wishes they are the ones already killing the game, what is wrong with UCL format? What's wrong with the World Cup having 32 teams? N then do they really need 32 teams Club World Cup? Nah I think Fans mobilize across the globe the next World Cup qualifiers or Nations league should be boycotted by All fans, they shouldn't take away this game from the fans

The premier league has a monopoly on the whole thing which is getting old. Simon is right competition is a good thing.

Why you need to pay so much to watch UCL and PL ... Am with this ESL idea..ty.