Great review! Very, very detailed. We really like the explanation you give concerning the advantages of the curved blade. 1 thing about the angles of the blades: - The radius of the Curve (angle) of the Gomboy 210 / 240 is 650 mm. The 270 / 300 has an 1300 mm radius. And the radius of the BB2k is 2000 mm. - The radius of the Ultra Accel Curve is 650 mm. Take a close look at the blade of the Gomboy Curve 270 when you put it down (5:28 minute). What do you see? Keep up the good work! Silky Europe

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

The three teeth cut differently is what I'll guess you are referring to. My lighting gave a reflection on those. Had the blade been facing with the logo down, there are two or three like that visible in different spots than the side facing up in the video.

@SilkyEurope

8 жыл бұрын

Yes it's a new teeth design! Just for the curved Gomboys. Have you been in touch with SherrilTree?

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

SilkyEurope I have not heard from SherrillTree, but I did buy the Gomboy Curve saws in this video from them. I also purchased a couple of PocketBoy 130 blades I didn't have, but I'm still missing the ultra-fine. .. I have been pondering those different teeth that seem to be sharpened on both sides. The sharpening suggest a cutting purpose, but the angle and length of the reverse facing surface suggests debris gathering/kerf clearing. I haven't quite figured out the exact purpose the design engineer has in mind yet. ... Are there going to be large and fine tooth versions of the Gomboy Curve blades?

@SilkyEurope

8 жыл бұрын

You are a smart man, the teeth are indeed designed to improve the rip-cutting and the discharge efficiency of woodchips.

Silky Ultra Accel Curved the winner due room stiffness of the handle and curve of blade work better with human biomechanics. Next comparison should be between Silky Zubat 240 curved full tang handle and Silky Ultra Accel Curve to see what advantage the full tang handle provides over fold blade into handle.

Excellent video as always. Thank you for your time and patience when explaining your experience with these saws. It really does help the rest of us make better informed choices when choosing a saw that could one save a life... Particularly your own... Cheers

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found the information to be useful! Thanks for taking the time to watch!

the most intelligent test of all others of saws till now . thank you all the best keep doing videos

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! I take it as good encouragement.

There are many people that do reviews, but I must say I really like your no nonsense approach and honesty throughout. Great job. Thank you! Liked and subscribed.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad this video was useful for you! Thanks for taking the time to watch and thanks for the sub!

Thank you, I really appreciate the comparisons. It's helping me get closer to making an informed choice.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of saws like these to choose from. I'm glad you found this helpful!

Technique is also about being happy too...good job. I just ordered an Ultra Accel 240 Curved from Amazon for $55. I like the thought of Japanese steel. As an older property owner I think this saw will prove useful over the long haul.

Excelent job, this is the only way to test a saw, working with them, thanks for this vídeo...

At last I found somebody smart enough to explane me which Silky, what teeth, and curved or not I need for bushcraft. Many thanks.

Thank you so much for giving off your time to educate us.Proffesional review extremely satisfied.

Very well put together and informative. Thank you. You helped me make a solid decision.

hey dude, this is really an amazing in-depth review of silky saw, really thank you the effort u putting in! great job!

Thank you for the review! It really helps in making an informed decision before buying!

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to watch! I appreciate it.

You're the first person that explained that blades are interchangable if I already have a gomboy240 i can just buy the blade! Thanks friend!

@betweenfiveandseven

5 жыл бұрын

You are welcome! This is an important selling point for Silky with these curved blades. These saws are really designed for arborists (though often co-opted by bushcrafters, campers, hikers, mountain bikers etc) and generally it's a lot easier to to have a sheath with multiple spare blades than it is to carry multiple saws.

Technically this is my top 5 videos I have ever seen

@betweenfiveandseven

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the encouraging words! I'm glad you found this video worthwhile.

Nice video great explanation of the curved blade on the pull cut Saw.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've been thinking about how to explain it for a long time. I'm glad it made sense.

@TurtleBushcraft

8 жыл бұрын

It sure did excellent job

Here in Spain living in the countryside with a nice parcel of land densely forested and looking to buy some good equipment for managing. Such a great video very clear and detailed. Definitely going for the new king now. Thanks a lot

wow those are some beautiful saws. I would love to get 1 of them. thanks for sharing my friend.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to watch! My Silky Saw collection continues to grow. One of these days, I'll do a few more saw videos.

Fantastic review thank you for all the information and hard work bro!

@betweenfiveandseven

4 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

What a great, detailed review! Thank you very much! It gave the exact information I've been searching for and helped to make a final decision :)

@betweenfiveandseven

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad this information was what you needed!

Glad to see the Gomboy 'sheath' upgrade. I'm happy with the custom one that was put together for mine. Based on your findings, I'm glad I got the large tooth. I do cut juniper and it is not very fun compared to pruning at home. Great explanations and comprehensive review. I'll never buy the Accel though ;)

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping the future brings large and fine tooth versions of the new "gomboy professional" blades. That would go a long way to completely rounding out the gomboy line. Thanks for taking the time to watch!

Holy cow. I wondered and wondered about the advantage and Never thought about the body dynamics. Thanks for the explanation as well as the demonstration. Now I know I need the same Silky as I needed before the latest release of the new Gomboy. Ultra Accel is still my next saw.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

The Ultra Accel remains the best performer in the 240mm/10" size. I do wish it had large and fine teeth options to make it more versatile like the Gomboy line, but it is still absolutely my favorite in that size range. It's incredibly fast and the grip is the most comfortable of all of my folding saws. You will be happy with an Ultra Accel... And I'm really glad my explanation of why the curved blade offers an advantage is making sense. I was worried I wouldn't be able to say it and show it in a way that made sense in anyone else's head besides mine ;)

@michaelreed649

8 жыл бұрын

It wasn't just what you said but the demonstration while explaining it is what worked so well for me. It was a revelation that all clicked at the same time. I admit I was rooting for the Ultra before you started the tests. It just looks more effective. Plus, I had my hopes up for getting one sometime before fall anyway. Now with other options, I was wondering if my Grail saw was outdated before I even got it. Good to know Ultra Accel is still Lancelot to Gomboy's King Arthur (like what I did with the King theme?)

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Reed Yup. I see what you did there... ;)

Good review, thanks... and definitely watchable at 2x speed. :)

Thank you.

Thanks again for the great review. :-)

I understand your point about the curved blade. It's definitely more ergonomic. The straight blade can be just as efficient as long as you keep all of the blade in the cut by changing the stroke and keep your elbow more up.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. Your shoulder is a fulcrum. If you extend your arm further from your body to the side (keep your elbow higher), you can decrease the angle of the lever on the fulcrum. You can also accomplish the same thing by physically being higher above the material you are cutting. That is absolutely true. It does leave the other part of the equation, though. The curve in the blade adds a little extra surface area over the distance of the blade compared to a straight blade...which means that more teeth can occupy the given amount of length of the kerf. The smaller diameter of the material you are cutting, the less that difference is, but the bigger diameter (a longer kerf for the blade to be cutting in) the bigger the difference. A 3 inch diameter log might only mean an extra tooth or two cutting compared to a straight blade, but a 6 inch or so diameter log probably means closer to 4 or 5 extra teeth cutting in the kerf.

Great explanation of the curved blade advantage. I didn't know that. The Corona lurks in the background of your saw blade videos as a high performance tool. My first saw was a Corona chosen at random. For someone who likes sawing wood, this video was fun to watch. Thanks for the detailed review.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! ... I always try to be clear about the Corona Razor Tooth 10. The blade is spectacular. The tooth design is excellent. It is the handle I take a lot of issue with. It's brittle in cold weather. The gap is too wide and makes it uncomfortable for long cutting sessions. And, the teeth protrude in to the lanyard hole when the saw is closed rendering having a lanyard hole useless because those front couple of teeth will eventually destroy any lanyard.... Thanks for watching! This was a really long video so I really appreciate your time watching it.

@coiledironyfilms-denniseva634

8 жыл бұрын

I've noted your reservations about the plastic handle of the Corona, but your observation about its being brittle in cold weather is an important point I hadn't heard. In a best world, the new curved blade Silky would have a curved handle...perhaps. I'm tempted to get the Silky 300 curved blade. The metal handle must be the superior quality you referred to in another comparison video. What's the quality of the apparent plastic side grips on the metal (steel?) handle of the 300?

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

The handle material on the Gomboys is stainless steel and Gom Rubber. The rubber stays soft even well below zero and what I like about it is 1) It's grippy stuff and gives an incredibly secure purchase on the handle and 2) It absorbs vibration from the saw and reduces fatigue.

@coiledironyfilms-denniseva634

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you far this additional information. Makes the 300 even more tempting.

Thank you! I was wondering about the advantages of curved saws. I hadn't considered the bio-mechanical explanation but it makes total sense.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The human shoulder, elbow, and wrist are really incredible. I wish more mechanical engineers who design human powered tools would pay as much attention as the Silky engineers did in this case. Thanks for watching!

This is pretty neat!

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And thanks for taking the time to watch. I know this was a long one.

@msilverhammer

8 жыл бұрын

I watched this video at 2X normal speed, and because you have what some might say is unhurried, and detailed way of speaking, 2X works real well, and it cuts my viewing time in half. LOL Try it, but it works for me, and I get the full message in about half the time.

Thanks for doing all these videos, they're a great aid in researching all these different models. I watched it to learn more about curved vs straight Gomboys but I'm leaning more towards the Ultra Accel now. That thing's performance was very impressive and it also seems a bit more durable/stronger. Curious why it's not your fav in that size to be honest, I must be missing something. Off to watch some more of your vids about it I guess!

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

The Ultra-Accel is absolutely the best 240mm/~9" saw considering the uses I discus in these videos. Hands down - by far - the best. It's a little heavier than most and it's more expensive than most. While Silky dealers have a part number for a yellow handled Ultra-Accel with a different blade/tooth configuration, it does not seem to actually exist (I have been unable to purchase one including directly from Japan... as far as I can tell they don't really sell them) , so there is only one blade choice for the Ultra-Accel. That's a disadvantage for some folks who prefer a finer tooth saw. But even with the disadvantages of only one blade choice, a little extra weight, and a little more money out of the wallet, the Ultra-Accel is the best performer in that size of any of the saws you might see in my videos and lots of others I've never done videos on. All of that said: I normally carry a 270mm Gomboy straight-blade large teeth configuration + a spare blade in my regular gear. If I am planning a multi-day winter outing (hunting camp or etc), I prefer my 24" Bob Dustrude saw. I used to carry a 240mm Gomboy large teeth configuration, but I always lean towards a larger saw because of where I live. Whatever the biggest saw I can fit in my gear is, that's the saw I'm going to carry (within reason... I own a Katanaboy 500 and a 650, but it isn't ever very practical to carry those anywhere on foot, but one or other is always in the toolbox in my pickup).

@storm3016

6 жыл бұрын

I thought you preferred the Gomboy over the Ultra from another video or yours but guess I misunderstood, thanks for clearing that up! I do like the big teeth luckily, I have an F180 and Bigboy with large teeth already, just looking for something to fit in the middle. I'm from the Netherlands and they do sell the yellow handled straight blade Ultra Accel over here. I'd be happy to mail you one if you really want one, it should set you back $75,- or so including shipping to the US. Feel free to send me a message if you want to take me up on it.

Nice video man!

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

enjoy your videos :) just ordered a ultra accel ;) it will be my first folding saw .

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

The Ultra Accel Curved is my absolute favorite all-around saw for 'outdoorsman' purposes. It will serve you well and save you a lot of energy. I'm glad this video was useful for you! Thanks for watching!

@JeffB1961

7 жыл бұрын

i've had the chance to use this a few times on oak , pine , cedar and thick bamboo and i am amazed that a "hand saw" can cut so fast with so little effort needed . i built decks , wood fences , porches etc. for a few decades and this silky is amazing . compared to a black and decker piranha hand saw the silky the no contest winner . wished i'd known about their pocket boy when i was building , it would have been perfect for cleaning out birds mouths and corners in typical stringers . i'm not even a weekend warrior , but i feel i got a extremely solid high performance tool that more than meets my needs for $40 . i really debated getting the $20 buck corona and went to lowes and got to hold one and decided to bite the bullet , get the ultra accel hoping that it was as solid as it looks in videos and pics online . and it is even better than i thought . i'm a newbe so i just take my time and only apply a little pressure on the pull stroke , no need to rush since it cuts through anything i've wanted to cut so far in less than 30 seconds , most stuff in 3 - 10 seconds . and that thick rubber handle is really nice , gives a nice solid hold to the saw. those teeth have told me to pay more attention a few times but i'd much rather be bitten by this than a axe ! i have no axe experience and for my fishing and camping uses i feel with this and my knife i'm good for fishing and hiking with no need for a axe or hatchet . thanks again for you great insightful videos :)

Thanks for all of your saw comparison videos. Because of them, I've purchased two of the Silky Ultra Accel saws for my camping gear and my bug-out kit. The KatanaBoy and BigBoy saws are amazing, but for me, they seem to be too big for what I want to pack in my kits. I owe you a beer, sir.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

the ultra accels are the best saws in the 240mm/~10" size. Nothing else (including the curved gomboy 240) comes close in performance. You will be really happy with those. Thanks for watching! And, I'm glad the videos helped!

@TBNTX

8 жыл бұрын

I'll be trying them out as soon as they're delivered. Again, thank you. Please keep posting your videos and commentary. It's all very helpful.

@TBNTX

8 жыл бұрын

Just a follow up. I've had my Silky Ultra Access saws now for about a week, and I've been testing one against all sorts of logs and branches. These are absolutely the best folding saws that I own. Hands down. I'm considering the Pocketboy (large-tooth version), too, just to keep in my EDK. I'm holding off until I find some more reviews of it. Thanks again for the comparison and the replies.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

TBNTX I knew you'd be really pleased with the ultra accels (best ~10"/240mm saw on the market by a wide margin). And I'm happy I was able to help with that decision.... I have a little advice on the pocket boy too if you're interested. The pocket boy 130 is a way better saw than the pocket boy 170. I think their blade thickness choice on the 170 was a mistake. It should be .5mm thicker. The 170 blades are too easy to bend and tend to warp in a couple of places on the 2 1/2 inches closest to the tip. They should have made the 170 blade the same thickness as the gomboy 210 blade. The 130 is just right and has surprised me with its durability. I own Large, Medium, and Fine tooth blades for my 130. I keep the medium teeth blade installed on it. I hope that's useful information too!

@TBNTX

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! Much appreciated.

In your video I saw that the silky ultra was very good over the other for it's category, so I have one question. If you have to choose (for survival and/or bush craft) between Silky ultra & silky gomboy witch one you choose.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

If the choice is only between the gomboy and ultra accel, I'd take the ultra accel. It's the best performer in this size class. And, the blade is a little more durable (a little thicker and stiffer) than the straight blade gomboy blades so they're a little harder to accidentally damage... but the curved gomboy blades are also thicker and stiffer than the straight blade gomboy so it really does pretty much come down to performance. The ultra accel is my favorite 1-hand folding saw.

Great video, thank you for the explanation on the mechanical advantage of the curved blade and also your valued opinion on tooth size for backpackers and campers. What would you suggest in terms for a camper/backpacker, would you suggest the 240 pro. curve or the the 300 pro. curve. I know there's an advantage in carrying the larger saw due to having a longer blade equaling more work/cutting being done per stroke and as you explained it allows for the curved blades mechanics to operate more efficiently than with the shorter 240 pro. curve. But having the smaller 240 and a carrying case that is possibly molle compatible and also lighter can be an advantage as well. I currently do not own a silky saw and have been wanting to get one for some time now especially with my current hand saw continually failing on me and being that it has a plastic handle its cracking on me. Seeing you have personal experience with a silky and produce helpful educated videos and opinions, I'd like to know your opinion on this decision please. Thanks in advance and keep up the videos.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

As far as size, what it 100% comes down to for me is the temperature you'll be out in. One of the primary reasons to carry a saw backpacking is to break down wood in to useful sizes for a manageable fire. If you're going to be in cold weather, the bigger the saw the better. The larger diameter the logs you can get burning, the longer they will keep you warm. The 300 is reasonably capable of cutting-8 inch diameter logs if necessary. A 6 inch diameter log is pushing the capability of the 240 about as far as you can. ... For about three years, I carried a straight blade large teeth Gomboy 240 in my pack. In the winter, I'd also tie a 24 inch bow saw to my pack and I often thought I'd like to figure out a way to get a 30" bow saw to work with my system (it gets very cold here in South Western Montana most winters and I like to burn big enough logs that they will burn for several hours while I sleep). ... I am very fond of the 240mm size for portability and durability. If you're not going to need it for "winter survival" (for lack of better words), the 240 is just a nice sweet spot for capability vs pack size/weight. I like the medium teeth on these new curved blades. They are just a little slower in cured wood than the large teeth straight blades, but they expand your capabilities in to being able to cut more types of materials... I hope that helps!

@coreyhope5348

8 жыл бұрын

Yes very helpful thank you.

@coreyhope5348

8 жыл бұрын

I'm having a hard time trying to find a gomboy pro. curve in the 270mm length. I yet yet to find a place that sells it. Any thoughts or reasons as to why that is?

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Corey Hope Yes. It's because of the way Silky uses dealers. They have "exclusive dealers". In Canada, it's Big Bear Tools. In the US, it's SherrillTree. Those "exclusive dealers" each make decisions about how much of what items they can afford to keep in inventory and I'll guess that the 270mm straight blade hasn't been their most popular seller so they chose not to put money in to keeping inventory of the 270 Professional Curve.... Sooner or later, Japanese retailers will stock the new saws in their Amazon and Ebay stores and availability will get better just like it did with the Katanaboy 650... But, for the time being, I'd say that since SherrillTree is a good company. and they respond to email, it's likely you can get them to stock the 270 or at least order one for you the next time they place an order with Silky. In my dealings with them, they've been very helpful... Barring that, and judging by the delay between the Katanaboy 650 coming out and it starting to appear at Amazon etc, I'd guess Gomboy Professional Curve saws and blades will start showing up in maybe another 3-6 weeks from Japanese sellers.

Love the video. You say the gonboy is king of bushcraft. What benefits dose it have over the bigboy? I can see it would be easier to pack, but that seems a small price for the added versatility and speed. Trying to decide on what to buy. Thanks

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

I am forever a proponent of carrying a large saw because of where I live (Montana has serious winter and firewood is a necessity), but not everyone needs a big saw to get by in their woods. Sometimes a smaller saw is the right fit for the conditions and normal work you might need to do. In fact, I think a lot of folks might never need anything bigger than the saw on their leatherman (depending on what other tools they might carry or prefer). I've done videos on folding saws and pack saws covering nearly everything from the Katanaboy 500 and the Bob Dustrude all the way down to the Bahco Laplander and Silky Pocketboy. Gomboys are the most popular and versatile coming in 4 lengths and now with 4 separate blade choices in each length (including the curved blades). I don't have anything against the BigBoy and I have specifically featured the BigBoy 2000 XL in a couple of videos. If you need to process decent sized logs for firewood or semi-permanent shelter, it's a great choice. If you are clearing trail and have to deal with a lot of deadfall, it can be a great choice.. If you're hoping to use it to shape tools and utinsils you're making in the field, it's too big. If you only need to occasionally clear some sage brush or knock a few branches off a tree to make hanging your hammock a little easier, it's overkill. ... All I can do is present the information I have from my perspective. Maybe some of my other videos will help you figure out what's a good fit for your conditions and needs. I have a playlist of saw videos. Check it out when you have time.

The Gomboy blades looks too short on blade height. I would be curious how strong they are. I love my 210 but I have snapped blade tips. I would love to try a 240.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I have never broken a Silky blade. I've bent a couple, but I've never broken one. I can see how some folks do occasionally break them (specifically we gung-ho Americans... these are designed by folks who have never met a get-er-done, more power, I rewired it, gung ho American in their lives) but a little finesse is required. The curved blades are a little bit stiffer than their straight blade counterparts. Some of that is the geometry of a curved blade and some of it is that across all 4 sizes, they have gone to only medium teeth, so some blades don't have deeper cuts for teeth than others. My experience with the curved blade versions so far is that they do feel a little bit stiffer, and they do seem like they can take a little more gung-ho activity than the straight blade versions.

Very educational. I learned something today and that is always a plus. Have you ever tested, or do you plan on testing the Silky Zubat or Gomtaro non folding saws? Thanks.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I own both, plus a Tsurugi, a couple of Sugoi's a Genki Temagari, aTakeru-Boy, and a Woodboy Dozuki for fixed blade silky's. I have seriously considered doing a series on the fixed blades. It might be a good way for me to get back in the habit of making videos. If you're thinking about buying a fixed blade for the sort of uses I tend to talk about (clearing trail, creating shooting lanes for hunting, a pack saw for processing firewood, etc) the Sugoi and the Ibuki are worth the price premium over the Zubat and Gomtaro but the gomtaro 240mm are a lot easier to find in stock at amazon and sherrill tree etc and it is an excellent saw.

@jonfornwald

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply. I'm looking to upgrade from my Bahco Laplander to a Silky for backpacking and bushcraft. Mostly cutting firewood and shelter building. Size and weight are a factor, however, I like the handles on the fixed blades better. After watching your video I think a curved blade and handle like the Zubat would check all the boxes for me. It has a lot of good reviews and feed back. Any other suggestions?

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I do have a suggestion that you might consider: You should look in to the Gomboy-7. The Gomboy-7 is almost a secret. I've never seen a video for it and I've never once seen discussion about it on any bushcraft/outdoors forum. It's a set of handles to make a Gomboy Folding Saw blade in to a curved handle fixed blade saw. It accepts the straight and curved gomboy blades. ... Wait for a good price on the size and teeth configuration Gomboy you want on Amazon and then add a Gomboy-7 handle and you can switch your blade back and forth to whichever configuration you prefer for the situation you will be in if a fixed blade or folder will be appropriate for what you're doing or how you need to pack. I don't see any on Amazon right now but Sherrill Tree usually has them and here's a link I saved from a discussion I had with Silky-Europe a while back. www.silky-europe.com/diy/pruning-saw-gomboy-7-270-10 .. That link is for a blade and the handle, but I think the handle can be obtained without a blade.

@jonfornwald

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your time and wisdom on this subject. You gave me some more to think about. I'm in no big hurry so I will keep researching and asking questions. Again, thanks for taking the time to help.

Silky Ultra Accell 240 or Big boy 360 ?

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

It depends on how large the material is you need to cut and what sort of space you're willing to dedicate to a saw in your gear. The BigBoy is considerably longer and a little heavier to carry than the Ultra Accel, but it has a longer blade and so it's capable of cutting larger material. I did a video comparing the BigBoy to the KatanaBoy 500 and showed the BigBoy is easily capable of cutting 9+ inch diameter logs without too much effort.

Professional on the blade is only on Silky sold in the US , sold in Japan it's not there ,something to do with the warranty.

The new king ZUBAT

IT all comes down to the strength of the metal and who sharpen are those teeth, thats what makes the silky tools superior to other tools.

Thank for mentioning teeth size! Lots of idiots out there forget to.

Great Review! I shared this video on Google Plus+ It appears however that the Silky Gomboy Curve Professional 300mm and the other new curved blades come with blades that have medium teeth. www.sherrilltree.com/tools-hardware/hand-saws/silky-gomboy-curve-pro-717-30 If I had my druthers I would probably just choose the Silky BIGBOY 2000 360mm XL Teeth for about $10 to $15 more. The Big Boy is about 30" in overall length, which when open might be a bit of a headache to carry when one is out backpacking, but since it basically folds in half to about 15", the Big Boy should not be a problem to carry inside a backpack. I do not see the length listed for the new curved Silky Gomboy saws. So what do you see as the advantage when comparing the new Professional Gomboy curved saws to the Silky Big Boy 2000 with XL teeth?

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

I haven't found an answer to weather or not there will be large and fine teeth versions of the Gomboy Professional blades. If they do make a large and fine, they should outperform their large and fine counterparts... but as I went over in this video, the straight handle negates some of the benefit to the curved blade at least with the shorter versions.... And, here's where it gets interesting and I'm planning a future video so I won't go too crazy with several paragraphs: There is another addition to the Gomboy line that has been available for a while but pretty much unheard of in the U.S. The Gomboy-7 is a fixed blade handle for the Gomboy blades. It is a pistol grip along the lines of the Silky Gomtaro and as a steep angled handle it will take full advantage of the curve in the new blades. ... OK. On top of that, there are two cool things about the new blades in their current #8 (8 teeth per 30mm) configuration. 1) The blades are stiffer than their straight blade counterparts. Not a lot stiffer, but noticeably more rigid. This will appeal to a lot of people who are a little too gung-ho and tend to bend blades or occasionally snap off a tip. 2) Medium teeth expand the capability in to more fibrous materials like sage brush, cat tail, vines, and even large gauge hemp or manilla rope. If it's just for bucking firewood or cutting poles etc for shelter, big teeth can't be beat. But, giving up a little speed in favor of being efficient cutting more types of materials might be a reasonable trade for a lot of folks.

дак че какая пила лучше то в итоге??))

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

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I HAVE ONLY BIG BOY 2000 and katana 500! dont waist time WHITH SMAL BLADES

I disagree with your assignment of the curved saws. In the test I saw that the media being cut puts all the pulls strokes of the saws at a flat angle. Although your explanation of the ergonomics of the curved blade is correct, but in reality, due to this particular flat pulling angle, the pull stroke of the body does not utilize the full curve of the blade as efficiently as it is designed for. I saw that because all your pull strokes were in a linear manner the disadvantage that is explained by Silky for the curved blade design. That particular disadvantage is that when pulled in a flat or non-angled way that the saw skips the middle teeth or less pressure is distributed on them and can lead to less utilization of the middle of the blade and more to the front and rear of the blade EVEN with the bodies natural tendency to move down at the end of the pull stroke. If the media being cut was at positioned below hip line or above hip line, enough to where we are not making flat pull strokes, the results produced by the curved blade would have yielded a faster and more efficient cut. Bottom line is the mechanics of the pull stroke alone are not sufficient enough to properly distribute the pressures to the curved section of the blade. Pulling the curved saw at hip height, as in the video, would cause a slight skipping over of the middle section of the curved blade. It is therefore that we need to put the media being cut higher or lower then hip height in order to avoid a flat pull. By doing so we will not affect the performance of the straight blades pull stroke, but the extra angle will greatly benefit the curved blade because of the angle that the blade travels will make our bodies pull of the saw to contact the curve efficiently. Ultimately the higher or lower angle is just enough to maximize the pull of the curved saw. I would like to thank you for this video and the specs and comparisons. It was a great look into the parameters of my next Silky saw! Resources for such infromation are: SILKY Saws Australia, Arborists, and am personal Silky saw owner.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Interesting point of view and I have read it that way myself from the same sources. My reply to that description is this: In real world use (arborists, landscapers, bushcrafters, orchard workers, trail clearers etc etc etc) when will the material to be cut be exactly at hip height? The answer to that question is "Rarely if ever". And, in fact, the answer is quite possibly "Never unless you are bucking wood on a sawbuck". You will never experience the optimal condition in real world use. As to pressure distribution: The teeth themselves do more of that than the operator of the tool specifically with a pull cut design. The teeth are shaped back toward the user... think of a fish hook. When you set a fish hook in to a fish mouth, the hook digs in because of its shape. Pull stroke saws are exactly the same. You shouldn't be 'pushing down' on the saw. The teeth should be 'digging in' because of their geometry. The operator of the device only makes sure the teeth are where they are supposed to be to be able to equalize the pressure themselves. The curve in the blade helps the operator keep more teeth in position to dig in. I hope I've explained that in a way that makes sense.

@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743

7 жыл бұрын

I like your fishing analogy! Yes, going off of setting the hook. When the hook gets set the line of pull of the hook is at an angle, on a boat or a dock or a bank, that is not on the same 3rd dimensional plane as the fish. Because of that, the hook travels in an arc to plow into the fishes mouth. If our line was on the same linear plane as the fish we might experience the hook not plowing in its mouth because the top of belly of the hook and bottom shaft would contact the mouth and there would be no arc to set the point and the bottom of the belly of the hook. I see this as cutting with the saw at hip height. And cutting higher or lower, would be like being in a different plane as the fish allowing us to set the hook, in this case causing our pull stroke to more efficiently arc into the media being cut. I would like to put my two sense in and ask that your next demonstration be at above or below the hip. Now I know set up for such may be more challenging, but this is where most of our outdoor cuts will be. Either on the ground, maybe bucking a log with a spacer log under, felling a small tree or cutting branches above the head. This would be more realistic to be honest. Thank you for the quick response. I look forward to your response. 

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Sure. I'm thinking about doing some videos on a few of my fixed blade Silky's eventually. And, I've been planning one on the Gomboy-7 (the gomboy-7 is cool... it's a fixed handle for gomboy blades). I've done all the saw videos in the shop where I work, but there's a sawbuck out at the farm. It wouldn't be a big deal to shoot some cutting there.

@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743

7 жыл бұрын

+Essential Gear & Useful Skills Great, working on the farm would give you more cutting scenarios and would give, to some, a better "how I will be using it" situation.

That’s a pull saw

Cutting dimensional lumber with a curved blade sucks. Tried it with the Sugoi. Straight blades are better. Curved blades are for arborists for hard to reach overhead cuts. I disagree with your way too long review. You're a good egg.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

What I have for dimensional lumber from Silky is a TakeruBoy. I might do a video on that one maybe mid-winter. Thanks for takign the time to watch!