Just one slight error, at 4:28 the focal length is 28mm, not 18mm as shown in the video. PLEASE NOTE Also that the measurement of minimum focus distance is measured from the sensor. Not from the front of the lens. Also this is an independent review of both lens & not sponsored by either Sony or Sigma. I own both lenses. If you are considering the Sigma 18-50mm lens, have a watch to see how it performs against the Sigma trio Prime lenses here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6eAs66qmbfdYM4.html

in my opinion i prefer to have the two images side by side, its easy to the eye

@imanueltimotius6700

6 ай бұрын

also it's not suitable to use cross dissolve effect for comparison, if you want to show them sequencially, just use basic cut, it will be easier for us to get the difference

@LFrancisc

3 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was about to write

great video! appreciated the low light analysis

the video I was looking for, thanks!!

If you buy the Sony lens with a Sony camera it's only $100. I think it's definitely more than worth that just to use it as a really small decent wide angle 16mm (24mm FF equivalent). From your testing it performed very well at 16 in comparison with the Sigma at 18.

Great comparison, love the zoom in's, the internal sound recordings, and the humor 😅

You are a genius for making this video. I just happened to be looking for a replacement to my kit lens with a good aperture. Well played bro

I have both and your assessment is spot on. I even bought the Sony kit lens AFTER having the Sigma trifecta as a walkabout zoom, UNTIL Sigma double guessed everyone and seemingly competes with itself by bringing out the 18-50 f2.8. Brilliant, thanks Sigma.

Thanks for creating a really good video 👍

Sigma wins out of course in terms of build, image quality, etc. but there is a lot to be said about the compactness AND stabilization in the 16-50.

Thanks for the video, just what I was looking for. As an aside: if your are comparing a stabilized lens to a nonstabilized one, the low-light photo test should account for that. The kit lens might get away with a lower ISO if you used a lower shutter speed, which could be possible because of lens stabilization. Or not, which would also be good info.

@Dzen_Sun

5 ай бұрын

🏰 I have a Sony zv-e10 with a Kit lens. This is my first camera. My house doesn't have enough lighting and I want more light for the Sony lens. More often for photographing pets I use the Soviet lens Helios 44. But, I can say that the Sony lens in good lighting has good results and, due to its compactness, can be the reason for choosing

Super helpful review. Been struggling with the a6000 kit lenses and am considering the sigma. Most commonly I am photographing indoors and find the image quality almost always blurry w the Sony kit lens.

@MarcellJjr

6 ай бұрын

Go full sigma! I have the 30mm,10-18 and the 24-70 art lens on the way. Sony is like apple with sigma being like Samsung but in their own rights.

Liked your video. I bought the Sigma and use it on my A6600. Great lens and camera combination with IBIS. Got rid of the kit lens.

very detailed video 👍

I'm surprised how well the sony held up! And your camera will fit in your pocket in a pinch with it! If you already have it, I would skip the 2.8 and get a fast prime lens (unless I have money to burn, then I'd buy a thousand dollar standard zoom)

@rafabern31

8 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree. This kit lens, a sigma 30mm 1.4 or Sony 50mm 1.8 and a zoom lens like the Sony 55-210 or a Tamron 18-300.

I suspect you only get the focal length readout on lenses that have power zoom.

The minimum focus distance is measured from the sensor but @7:35 it looks like you are measuring from the front of the lens. So in the case of the Sigma the minimum is in reality very close to the glass.

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

That is indeed correct, I will add to the pin comment.

Thank you for a good comparison. There was one thing I would like to mention. The minimum focus distance is not calculated from the front of the lens. In sigma the minimum focus point is practically in front of the lens.

12:24 I may be wrong here but I've read that only power zooms display focal length in the screen. So this shouldn't be listed as a drawback of the Sigma. If any, an advantage on the Sony.

@TheCameraManReviews

Жыл бұрын

Yes good point.

Thank you for a detailed comparison review, do you advise the sigma lens will be a good choice for a non stabilised Sony body ( a6000 ) for photos . I’m trying to decide between the Sigma and Tamron 17-70 f 2.8 VC.

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

That is a good question. I would use the Sigma 18-50 on my Sony 6400, that has no stabilisation, without hesitation. I would just try to keep the shutter speed above 1/100th and you will haver no problems. Does it beat the 17-70 Tamron? Both are very good lenses, and you cant go wrong with either. The sigma is cheaper, but then you lose a little bit of zoom range and stabilisation, but the sigma is smaller and lighter. it really is a toss up, if u feel you need stabilisation, the Tamron is right call. If you after a small, compact, Sharp as $*** zoom lens then the sigma.

@grahamsmith2381

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for your reply, I’m leaning towards the Sigma now, the smaller size is appealing.

@jimbuckley4986

2 жыл бұрын

I am in the exact same spot. This is to be my last lens purchase as in the elder years and just. Starting to learn my a6000

I just bought this sigma lense 2 days ago. I havent used it yet, but am excited to give it a try when I go on vacation next month. I love the kit lense you compared it to so I have high hopes based on peoples revews like yours that I will like the photo quality of this sigma. My only fears are of bokeh and loosing a bit of the wide angle. I will take my old kit lense just in case i need it. With your review it almost looked like 18 on the signa would compare to 20 on the sony. That was indeed very interesting when you tried them both at 18.

Thanks for the careful comparison. At 3:05 the Sigma at 18mm is nowhere near as wide as the Sony at 18mm - a real negative against the lens, for me.

i prefer to have faster "dissolve" effect when you switched images for comparison. slower dissolve slightly made "forgot" the "before" look 😀

Now this video unique on the KZread, Very helpful video, Thank you so much for this video🥰🥰🥰 (Subscribing 🥳)

AGREED. Chalk and cheese, no comparison. Got the Sony, hate the feel and results are as you show. Have had the Sigma for 1 month and love it. Goes well with my Sigma 16,30,&56 f1.4 trio primes which I am increasing leaving at home. A must-have is the Sony 85mm f1.8. I use it on my a7r and a6000 and it is Sony's superb giveaway priced lens giving 80% performance of the GM f1.4 at a fraction £££. Note I seem to consistently get 23MP Raw images from this FE lens (crop factor doesn't seem to apply). It DOES give a sweet, fast 85/127.5mm portrait telephoto prime depending on which camera.

@TheCameraManReviews

Жыл бұрын

Oh I have never tried the 85mm. How do u find the subject distance away from camera? is it ok on the ASPC Sony's at 127mm?

@paullafleur6112

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip about getting the Sony 85mm F1.8, next to the Sigma 18-50 F2.8 and the Sigma 16, 30 and 56 F1.4 trio primes. Good idea to cover the tele end that way

We'd love to have a bit wider range on the Sigma but it's probably impossible to achieve without a considerable impact on the size, weight and cost. I think that again for this size, weight and cost you can't ask for more.

I don't understand why nobody does a comparison on low light/night which is the only reason why I'm thinking to buy the sigma

@TheCameraManReviews

Жыл бұрын

At the 9:45 mark in the video i discuss the low light performance. But basically the sigma is far superior. In fact the Sony isnt really able to cope in low light .

@ChrisParayno

9 күн бұрын

Because low light doesn't mean anything if you know how to compensate for it

What about comparing for video ?

this was the perfect video for me, was thinking about buying the a6700 and didn't know if i wanted it with the kit lens or if i wanted to spend a little more and get the sigma, will definitely be going with the sigma

Great job man love the comparison just got the sigma myself and love it keep it up I’m subscribing

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Have a 55-210mm sony lens I use a lot of the time and the pancake kit lens for the rest of the time that I got with my 6400. Will get a sigma 18-50if I manage to break my kit lens I guess

I traded in my A7iii with lenses and got the A6700 with the kit lens. The kit lens is fine, but I noticed at night the kit lens was left wanting and images quite dark. The sigma lens is a great edition and was worth the spend. I also gave the 55-210 which I don’t like and I’m going to have to take a hit on it and trade it in. Lots of KZread singing its praises, but it’s not that good in my opinion

08:39 LoL, nothing wrong with the model, he gave us great information. Thanks

I just got the Sigma 18-50, I really like the size. The downside is that the zoom ring rotates the opposite way than all my other zooms for Sony. I have also the Sony 16-50 that came with the camera, but I never use it. Sony should re-design a new kit lens, maybe 16-50 f4 fixed lens. The kit lenses for Fuji and NIkon APSC cameras are better. I have also the Tamron 17-70 f2.8, which is sharper all around than the Sigma beyond the center, and has a wider and longer range, but the Sigma small size makes it a great all around lens for stabilized cameras. The Tamron optical stabilization is great, even on the A6100, but I have read it has issues with IBIS on the A6700 with active stabilization. Anyway great, on point review/ The 16-50 usually costs $100 USD if bought with a camera body. At the wide end at f8 it seems ok.

@wakagamer

5 ай бұрын

does it have power zoom like the kit lens ?

kit lens very usable for social media content it seems!

I own the Sony lens. Great review but my lens feels like reasonable quality and doesn't rattle. Plus it's easy to manipulate. I think you're having problems due to your cage. None the less I'm thinking of getting the Sigma.

Tbh price is a factor here,Sigma is pretty expensive, Sony does the job for it's price can't really complaint.

Bedankt

@TheCameraManReviews

8 ай бұрын

Hi, that's my first super thanks, really really appreciated. Thank you! :-)

So, keeping in mind Sony as a bace with cam cost only $100, this two os so uneven compare....also size is matter too. Sigma definitely nice lens. My favorite is 16mm, 1,4.

"... Feels like a cheap pair of underpants with no elastic." Delivered as dry as the Sahara, in classic British style. I was laughing so hard, I had to stop the video.

The kit is pretty decent, but it completely falls apart at 50mm..

Your Sony lens held up far better than mine would have! And that's a big problem - because it reveals the lacklustre attempts at quality control on this thing leading to variability of outcome. It's pot luck whether your Sony kit lens performs well or is utter garbage right across the frame. Almost anything is better than the kit lens that came with my camera - including a pin hole punched into cardboard!

Is good

When comparing 2 things, place them side by side, otherwise we are comparing things using only our memory.

@TheCameraManReviews

Жыл бұрын

Great point! The only thing I can suggest if you wanted to compare side by side, is open up 2 KZread Windows next to each other or screen shot and open both to compare. Either wouldn't really be great though as KZread still compresses the image, but would give you an idea.

👍👍👍

you can get the kit lens for $80 in aliexpress 95% new

Omg focus breathing

It's a joke right. The tiny kit lens in my photo cabinet is best used for a paperweight. The features are great but the image quality is quite poor. My cell phone takes higher quality photos. The Sigma 18-50 2.8 is far superior, approaching but not beating the Sigma trio.

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Did u agree with my score?

@rsmith02

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCameraManReviews 4/10 is on the generous side but I found the kit lens useful for video thanks to its size and weight. I could stick it on a gimbal on a monopod and not get tired.

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@rsmith02 i was going to give it a 3. But felt that was too low, maybe? Out of interest what would u score it out of 10?

@rsmith02

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCameraManReviews Three sounds about right. I find it unusable for photography which I can't say for Panasonic, Canon or Nikon's kit lenses.

@tvercel

Жыл бұрын

I tend to agree the Sony kit lens is really disappointing. Would love to hear about other recommendations for something that can at least keep up with my cell phone.

milimi-ah

8:45 lol you're a good enough model

Why buy a 2.8 lens and test it at f8?

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Hi thanks for the comment, I was specifically looking at image quality from both these lenses. Most lenses are at their highest image quality when in the centre of there aperture range F7-F11. If there is any deviation in quality at this aperture, it'll only be worse at a low or higher aperture. So by testing at F8, we can see that the kit lens loses image quality as we moved up through the focal range, this would almost certainly get worse if we were at a higher or lower aperture. Simplified, that is the best the lens can give and it failed. Kind of like testing Horse Power on a car engine, you find that its peak power is at a certain RPM. If it drops power at that ideal RPM, then its not a good engine. Hope this helps.

@jongunkim6297

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for telling

Take the price into consideration if Sigma makes 3 times better than SONY?

Sony is like apple with sigma being like Samsung but in their own rights.

18mm instead of 16mm is another con.

i don’t really need to watch it, just the form factor itself i will choose kit lens no question.

It's just silly to just test those lens for sharpness at F8 and not to do it at best aperture, it s just non sense. One of the reason to buy the sigma is the f2.8 aperture, and it s what is the most interesting to see in term of sharpness. Sry for harsh criticism but you just miss the point here, by far.

@TheCameraManReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I think you have missed the point. If these lenses cant perform at their optimal apertures, there is no point testing at their lowest apertures. Their optimal apertures are the best they can perform.

Пич, трагичен си.. Очевидно не можеш да правиш съпоставка между два обектива.

3x the price tho. 💀

not a relevant comparison.

This is a stupid comparison. For disabled folks like me, weight is the most important thing. That means Kit lens hands down.

@anonneymous9949

Ай бұрын

No offense but if even this sigma is an issue to you might be looking into other type of camera or even smartphone camera because some phone really is better then the kit lens.