As an optics enthusiast, I found the side-by-side testing and analysis very helpful in understanding the strengths and differences of each LPVO. Both seem like excellent choices for the US military!

Never shot the sig tango 6t. But I absolutely love my trijicon VCOG 1x6 with the trijicon quick release mount.

@Sparks00psn

Жыл бұрын

Technically it’s not a 1x6, it’s a 1-6

@DavidKilbourn

Жыл бұрын

@@Sparks00psnyou're right

@AllDayEDC

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Found mine for 1200 and even though all i had was a Zastava M90 you bet i bought that thing and slapped a “brembos on a civic”

@surfingtothestars

Жыл бұрын

Same. I got the VCOG 1-6 and it’s solid built like a tank

Please make a new intro! 😅

@bobbyberry5559

Жыл бұрын

This is the new intro lol

@bobbyberry5559

Жыл бұрын

Lots of things they CANT show. Mags. Reloads. Thank youtube or did yall forget *already*

@TheGunNerd

Жыл бұрын

This new intro is one of the most homosexual things I've ever seen

@AmericanConstitutionalist

Жыл бұрын

​@@bobbyberry5559That changed.... again.

@1rstTry

Жыл бұрын

Why you so whiny

Trijicon VCOG for the win.

Weight of the VCOG isn't much heavier when you add in the weight of the Sig mount

@RB-qd1zi

Жыл бұрын

3.6 ounces heavier

@doktorfaustus

10 ай бұрын

@@RB-qd1zi That seems like a reasonable trade-off when you consider you're getting 33% more magnification and a forged aluminum housing.

You guys are the best!! Love the channel 🎉

I have wanted a VCOG since they hit the market, they unfortunately had some issues early on if I remember right. I would gamble my life on the Trijicon over the Sig any day.

vcog is built like a tank hard to beat that

I have both. VCOG all day everyday. No question

@militaryarchive4840

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps you got an eotech vudu 1-8 scope?

@sbenoit22

11 ай бұрын

@@militaryarchive4840 I have the 1x6 vudu with the SR1 reticle. I’ve throughly enjoyed it and have competed in 6 Run and Gun comps with it. It’s super tough and has not yet failed. Zero leaks after swimming thru 8 foot of water.

@doktorfaustus

10 ай бұрын

@sbenoit22 what do you like better about the VCOG?

@sbenoit22

10 ай бұрын

@@doktorfaustusglass is a bit cleaner and pics up those hard to see targets in shadows and low light better. The last run and gun comp has black or no paint on steel targets hidden in the brush or trees. Also the 77gr BDC made hits on target faster. I’m finding myself going back to the more simple reticle design than the tree type. For faster acquisition. The tree reticle is hard to beat if your sitting and have time to use the information in the scope. But for comps. I have 3 minutes to complete course

VCOG all day. When guys ask why I chose the VCOG I just drop it on its head and then chuck it up in the air and run over it with my car and then remount it on my rifle and look at them and say "your turn". The VCOG is a variable ACOG and I love it

@SpicyCactus

4 ай бұрын

I aint running over my VCOG :c

1999.00 for my two VCOG’s 1x8 MOA at Europtics, love it, never had an issue, can’t speak personally on the other but do like my Sig red dots. Great in-depth evaluation on both optics, I’d trust both if I had to.

Vcog all day.💯

Right now, I am leaning more towards the VCOG but I would love to see more testing and camparisons

Thank you for another great video. I’d really like to see an accuracy test. That VCOG is the same I’m about to purchase.

The QOL features with the markings on the Sig need to be adopted by all the manufacturers. That would be amazing!

Wonder how much Sig paid to have their guns and optics chosen by the military?

Thank you. For me it's the VCOG all day long.

Yes bring in the a tacker and go at least 500 yards. Put the scopes in front of a really cold ac vent then straight out to our Carolina summer weather. If they can handle that with out fogging. 👍👍

I think Clint avoided answering which of the two optics he would personally choose. I'm guessing that's because Clint's choice was not the same as his branch.

@magdump_morgan

Жыл бұрын

I’m waiting till we throw nightforce in the mix then I’ll list them in order…also waiting to see which one breaks first in the continuation of this comparison. 😅

Great info 💪🏻🙏🏼🇧🇷🇺🇸

Yes include the Night Force, and make sure y’all do a box tracking test.

You should do a Marine Corps rifle qualification with each LVPO.

@borkwoof696

Жыл бұрын

And then an Army qualification.

@SpicyCactus

4 ай бұрын

Lol 🔥

VCOG all day long

I trust my life with the VCOG 💯 🇺🇸

I think a 4 way vs of those two and the NightForce ATACR and Leupold Mark6/8 would be awesome!!!

1x8 vcog for the win

That fin on the magnification dial is a win, for me. I don't like the extra consideration of a long lever when I'm laying down or packing up a rifle.

You're the expert. Do whatever relevant tests you feel would make sense 😉

Yes. Please toss in the NF. I want to see more LPVOs in general. High end PA Eotech vudu Kahles

Sig got tested massive shoulder height drops 4 times no zero change and on concrete with weight of rifle on it.

The VCOG is roughly 6 ounces heavier at moat with mounta (10 ounces if you dont include the lightweight mount that comes with the sig) the VCOG is also a 34mm main tube vs a 30mm main tube on the sig which allowa more light. Get a lightwwight mount for the VCOG and you can shave an ounce or two but the point of the vcog is durability which usually adds weight.

Do a video comparing different lasers. The new EOTech OGL has my interest

Yes, more tests please, Accuracy at distance.

If you bring in the atacr you need to include the razor 2e as well

Part 2, part 3, & part 4. Give us all the details. Super interested in both of these optics.

I own the older Tango 6 with the milrad reticle, whats the difference between the normal Tango 6 and the 6T? Other than reticle options and external color.

Gotta love them still-tipped.

Definitely would be interested in seeing them on different platforms and/or calibers. I’m looking at the VCOG to go on my LWRC REPR, 308.

What bolt action is that I'm the top right? Looks good

I love my SCO, and I wouldn't trade it. But you have to know the Mil system and memorize your holds to take advantage of it. If you just want to drop M855 from an M4 on target, the Tango 6 is easier. Of course, you can get the VCOG with a BDC reticle similar to the Tango 6.

@Joe-bc2jk

7 ай бұрын

Great point on the MIL system. I've been making cards using my Kestrel. Let's face it, the money we've all spent over the years, might as well go all in!

Turret covers on vgoc rattle.. should be rubber coated? Enemy hear you adjusting?

I want a Vcog with Fiber optic and waterproof to 300meters. First focal plane would be good but I would take second focal plane if they had the fiber optic. Also Mil crosshair reticle. I want you to drop the scopes in the ocean until they leak. LVPO breaks at the rear adjustment. Throw them off a bridge.

Great video, as always! Would love to see them out to 500 or 600 yds. I know, not real world, but today's issues are testing the limits of what we believed to be "real". Again, great video!

Where can you find the anti reflection device for the sig tango 6t?

New drinking game, take a shot every time Clint says “cool” 😆😆

I just realized that you guys changed the music in the beginning 😂

Please add an eotech vudu 1-8 scope

Yes do all 3

The giggle on "just the tip"...🤣

@magdump_morgan

Жыл бұрын

I am a child. 😂

@agirlandherdad2483

Жыл бұрын

@@magdump_morgan bro, same. 🤣

What about Vortex Razor HD?

Folding throw lever would be good too

Final test after everything else, will they stop a 7.62x39.

I'd select neither! I'd go with the Socom's selection in the Nightforce ATACR 1-8x!

@BluestofFalcons

Жыл бұрын

I thought SOCOM went with the SFP version of the sig

@doktorfaustus

10 ай бұрын

While I wouldn't disagree with your preference, it's not a clear win across the board for the NF. The VCOG's 1x is noticeably closer to a true 1x, with better FOV and less of the scope body visible. The reticle is much easier to pick up on the VCOG without illumination (with illumination the NF is much brighter, however, but without it is very fine in the middel at 1x, similar to the way he described the Tango 6T). One nice point in favor of the ATACR, however, is that even with a mount it is still lighter than the VCOG 1-8. The VCOG is a bit of a pig, even for a 1-8.

1,000 yard range with at least ten different distance targets with rapid switching between them. Really test out how much you need to adjust magnification and how well it adjusts!

Nothing about what battery and how long it will last

VCOG. Video over

I have a vcog 1-6 and the reticle is way too large. The reticle is like 3-4 moa it seems. Don’t quote me. I like the smaller reticle on the sig. I’m thinking of switching.

I'd love to see a test out to 600 meters and showing what the target looks like through the optics.

What happened to the Army's Vortex 'Smart Scope'--the NGSW-FC with a bunch of electronic features? Is it for the M7 only?

@petesheppard1709

Жыл бұрын

@@dickizzinya9085 Thanks.

Army awarded contract for the AF. The T6 is for use on M4A1s and the VCOG is for the M27.

Gotta durability test them, that’s definitely part of the pricing deference!

@borkwoof696

Жыл бұрын

Results are predictable. As is the difference in weight.

@surfingtothestars

Жыл бұрын

VCOG is made with 7071 with its integrated mount and the Sig is 6061.

I’m looking at getting myself a 1-8 VCOG on my Pws compound mk116… so yes, I’d love to see them all battle it out

@evandowel1975

Жыл бұрын

Also you can generally find vcogs for 1800-1900

@roncougar1

10 ай бұрын

Great choice in the PWS MK116, never had a hick up or misfire after 6000+ rounds, by far my favorite AR15, had to have 2. Tried to get the MK218 308, seems PWS isn’t doing any runs now or in the near future.😡 Had to part with 2x the $ and went with a LWRC REPR308, not enough time on it to form a good opinion but you can’t compare the price vs performance of the PWS.

Never once in the Marice Corps was I issued an RCO that still had the metal cap cables 😂

I love contract over runs!!!!

I really wanna see the durability tests on all 3

Let’s see these two on 308, 16inch barrel. I wanna see the range short to longer with a 168 grain match round. I think these optics would like the 308. Thanks

You mentioned early on in the video that the VCOG can be used with multiple calibers. I want to be able to switch back and forth from my AR 10 and AR 15. Can we get a video on this?

@doktorfaustus

10 ай бұрын

It's a simple concept: the reticle the USMC chose for the SCO is graduated in mils. You do your own computation for your bullet BC, velocity, etc, and hold the appropriate subtension for the range you're shooting at. This requires a much higher degree of training on the part of the shooter than a BDC, but is flexible across different weapon platforms or even a different load fired from the same rifle.

@Tbj2222

10 ай бұрын

@@doktorfaustus Great reply. Thank you for taking the time to help me out.

Add the NF and Razor

Would like to see a 300 or possibly 400 yd shoot off using the variable power settings.

@doktorfaustus

10 ай бұрын

Honestly, 300-400 yds is not much of a challenge for either of these optics. You'll need to take it out to 600 yds or so to realistically evaluate how easily a trained shooter can get hits with the 6x and its BDC vs the 8x with the mil reticle. 5.56 shoots so flat that for a 300 yd shot the BDC does not come into play.

Eotech vudu vs Vortex Razor

I have the 1-6x v-cog and it just sits in my safe. It’s just tooooo heavy. Kinda impulse bought it cuz it was cool and I had the money at the time.

@surfingtothestars

Жыл бұрын

I’ll take it off of ya 😂

@doktorfaustus

10 ай бұрын

What 1-6 are you comparing the VCOG to for weight? It is extremely light when you factor in the integral mount: ~23 oz. total (equivalent weight of optic alone would be about 17oz).

Durability/simplicity vs >weight/frills? I'd probably take durability... because stuff gets knocked around, and K.I.S.S. 🤷🏻‍♂️ That titanium mount is badass though.

And compare the VCOG 8X against the Eotech HHS V5

What about FFP vs SFP.

Integrated killflash is a very strange feature for a combat optic, what if you get mud in there?

@magdump_morgan

Жыл бұрын

It can be removed easily either to clean or get the hell out the way lol

how is that alpha mount 40$$???

Wouldn't spend 2200 or 3200 for those, thats a wild price

add in the eotech vudu

Mine is both of them.

Is this the DVO ? There are 5 sig lpvo,s in their line up.

@raydelfa1125

7 ай бұрын

Answer please???

Maybe send them to Tiborasaurus Rex for winter testing if the tests go that long. He’s in North Dakota I think…?

These videos are so awesome. Honestly helped me get threw the whole Covid thing. Can’t wait for my turn to finally win a give away. 👍🏻

Sig is actually only 3.6 ounces lighter. They didn't include the weight with the mount.

VCOG all day! ❤

The steel tip is all that counts. 😇

For one, the Marines would just break the Sig Tango. I run a ACOG TA110 and have some runtime on the Sig Tango. I would love to handle the VCOG and wouldn't mind a LPVO on a .308 rifle. I just don't see the point in placing a LPVO on a 5.56 rifle. I personally wouldn't shoot anything past 300 yards with a 5.56 and a 3.5 or 4 power optic is fine for those ranges.

@MadRhetorik.

Жыл бұрын

I’ve always looked at it like I can actually get some eyes on something at range even if I’m not shooting at it. Positive target identification is also a plus.

In the dessert with dust and or swamp conditions

What the battery life for both them

@dashdotdashdot8583

Жыл бұрын

“633 hours (26.4 days) at setting 6” for the VCOG 1-8 per trijicon’s website, which is phenomenal for an lpvo. Sig won’t even admit what the battery life is on their website.

@Kingblue79

Жыл бұрын

@@dashdotdashdot8583 thank you that helpful

acog vs. these two flimmsy things plz ^^

🔥👍💯

Vortex Razor 1-10...you can have that Sig!!!!

🍿

Can you do AFFORDABLE lpvos?

@TheHashtagSquad2K15

Жыл бұрын

Tbh there’s only one or two lpvo’s that are worth owning that are under $1000 imo. The Delta Stryker HD and the Vortex Viper PST Gen 2

@richardturner6278

Жыл бұрын

I've been running a sig msr 1-6 for about a year . I absolutely love it for the money. Scope and mount with flip caps for 300 bucks at the time. Last I checked , they'd gone up quite a bit in price. It's abused constantly because it bounces around in tractors and trucks every day on the farm. Regularly take out coyotes out to 400 yards with ease. Reticle is great for hunting. It pairs up with the sig buckmaster rangefinder that gives u holds for whatever range u need.

“ok, cool”

the marine lpvo manuel is written in crayola so that they would read it😅

So you're saying it won't go OceanGate on you.

My Vortex strike eagle still works really good 1-8 @ 550 yds. I think better visual than the tango-6. Plus i can destroy it and get a free replacement.

Cool. Okay, cool. Cool.

@jeffgee6319

Жыл бұрын

Very cool. So many cool.

SIG, every time - unless I can have a Nightforce ATACR 1 - 8 x 24.

"The reticle is retina burn out bright" Now that a damn lie.