I like the singles Syd Vicious put out after the break up of the Sex Pistols. A cover of Eddie Cochran "Something Else" and his take of Frank Sinatra "My Way" were a sign that he would have been a somewhat decent solo artist

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

Oh man, for real? Most people I know look at that stuff like it's a joke... it's been a LONG time since I've listened to that, I'll go back to it later today

@richbillionair

Ай бұрын

At least he was a better singer than a bass player

Commenting 3 min into the video: I think I first saw this movie when I was like 14 or so? Maybe around the year 2000. I’ve commented before on other videos about how I grew up really loving the Sex Pistols. I really do enjoy all of their songs and I guess the whole aesthetic to them. It’s been a good while, but I’ll watch it every few years just for nostalgia. Is that good or bad? I don’t know lol. But it’s just one of those things that reminds me of getting into punk, jamming with friends, learning new bands, just those carefree years. At that age I never really gave much thought to their age. Oh they’re in their 20’s they were adults. But of course now that I’ve gotten older and greatly surpassed their age I’m just like damn man they were literally just kids. It’s so crazy to really kinda stop and look back at how they lived at their age. It also hits different because I had a former band member OD on Sid’s drug of choice at the age of 20. So damn sad. Oh but Gary oldman kills it as Sid. Such a great actor.

What a great but depressing movie about a dumpster fire of a relationship. It's been a while since I've seen it. I've watched it a lot back in the day and now I want to watch it again. Another great (and far more uplifting) rock and roll love story is the documentary Unknown Passage: The Dead Moon Story. R.I.P. Fred Cole and Andrew Loomis. Much love to Toody Cole ❤

Joe Strummer was an adviser which Johnny rotten and mclaren criticised the film for (one of the few things they agreed on), because to quote mclaren "Joe wasn't there for half of it".

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

It's weird to have him as an advisor on a Sex Pistols movie....

@lewisb85

Ай бұрын

@thepunkrockreview because none of the pistols wanted anything to do with it, and joe was allegedly friends with the director Alex cox, "I cannot understand why anyone would want to put out a movie like Sid and Nancy and not bother to speak to me; Alex Cox, the director, didn't. He used as his point of reference - of all the people on this earth - Joe Strummer! That guttural singer from The Clash? What the fuck did he know about Sid and Nancy? That's probably all he could find, which was really scraping the bottom of the barrel. The only time Alex Cox made any approach toward me was when he sent the chap who was playing me over to New York where I was. This actor told me he wanted to talk about the script. During the two days he was there, he told me that the film had already been completed. The whole thing was a sham. It was a ploy to get my name used in connection with the film, in order to support it. To me this movie is the lowest form of life. I honestly believe that it celebrates heroin addiction. It definitely glorifies it at the end when that stupid taxi drives off into the sky. That's such nonsense... It was so off and ridiculous. It was absurd. Champagne and baked beans for breakfast? Sorry. I don't drink champagne. He didn't even speak like me. He had a Scouse accent. Worse, there's a slur implied in the movie that I was jealous of Nancy, which I find particularly loathsome. There is that implication that I feel was definitely put there. I guess that's Alex Cox showing his middle class twittery. It's all too glib, it's all too easy"- john lydon from his autobiography.

Im sad to say ive seen the Sid n Nancy debacle play out in real time with some people ive known over the years. Its par for the course when you have two people, both very codependent and emotionally immature, and throw hard drugs on it it never ends well. Ive seen it play out with one or both of them dying a few times. I only know one chick that came through something like that and actually turn their life around.

Great review 😊

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

Thanks homie

Gary Oldman,fantastic actor

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

He absolutely is

Sid Vicious was innocent. My best friend, Incorrigible Keith's R.I.P wife Joann R.I.P. was friends with Sid and was one of the 1st to greet Sid upon his release from Rikers Island and said enough, though Sid confesed to Nancy's murder he was out of his mind on Tuinal when he did so and before he O.D'd and died he adamantly denied killing the woman he loved.

Sid went to college with John Lydon way before the Pistols and was by most accounts a shy, intelligent and friendly guy until he was thrown in the deep end by Lydon.

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

Oh really? He went to college? I had no idea, lol.

@Iondeen

Ай бұрын

@@thepunkrockreviewQuelle Surprise old bean

I saw an interview with Nancys mum ,were She said Her daughter was diagnosed with Schizophrenia. So that part is sad,but it doesnt excuse all of Her bad behavior

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

Nothing excuses people's bad behavior, UT troubled people not getting the help they need is incredibly sad...

It was the silver jubilee, Richard Branson who owned their label virgin prevented them from getting arrested. And in relation to the rollins thing John hit the bottle due to his wife's illness (she's since died).

The film is pretty much a cartoon version of events anyway. The Doors movie goes for the same clichés..

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

Of course they do, it's a movie. They want everything to be as crazy and bombastic as they can

@Iondeen

Ай бұрын

@@thepunkrockreview Thanks Dad

The whole boy-band thing is a myth put out by their manager, who was a shameless liar prone to self-publicity, in his vanity project The Great Rock & Roll Swindle. There was no record label behind their creation. McLaren, their manager didn't create them either. Two were in an existing band, and they asked McLaren to manage them. McLaren didn't find any members of the band. Jones and Cook were in that original band. Matlock, by chance, happened to work in McLaren's shop, and joined because he could play bass. Lydon was suggested for audition by The Clash's manager, and auditions are a pretty standard in bands. It's not like he was plucked out of a room full of hopefuls. Even Sid is mentioned as if he was just some random punk fan given the chance because of his look. Sid and John had been friends for years, living in the same squat, and was always part of the Sex Pistols' inner circle. The myth seems pretty ingrained in the USA though, for some reason, even though a five minute google will show it to be nonsense. Like many lies, the lack of detail ought to be a clue. "They were put together by a record label" (why is that label never named?) "put together by record label execs" (why are they never named?) "they were casted" (why is there no record of anyone turned down from these casting sessions, or any detail about them?) etc. They were about as organically created as any band who take a little while to get a settled line-up. They wrote their own songs, played their instruments (with varying degrees of ability), chose their musical direction...other than the American punk antipathy towards the more successful British punk of the 70s, I can't see much reason to call them a boy band.

@thepunkrockreview

15 күн бұрын

That's cool, I definitely have always heard the contrary. Doesn't really change opinion on them, much (I've always liked their album and disliked the John and Sid) but maybe I'll make a video about this....

@thepunkrockreview

15 күн бұрын

Also, to be very transparent, people call them a boy band for the same reason old heads call Rancid and NOFX "pop punk bands", to get under the skin of their angry super fans. It's just kind of funny and to be obnoxious... lol

@RevStickleback

15 күн бұрын

@@thepunkrockreview Possibly, but in the USA there does seem to be a strong belief in the boy-band idea. Perhaps because in the UK they are rather more famous - I would say in England, only The Beatles have more of a cultural impact, the actual story is rather more well known. And after all, they were hated by the media and the establishment, and I dare say a few of their peers, and 'oddly' none of them chose to expose them, and destroy their credibility - which they would have love to have done. The Great Rock & Roll Swindle was nonsense. Julien Temple, who directed it, said so when doing the more conventional biopic The Filth & The Fury in later years, but McLaren's story was already out there, I guess.

nobody in the comments wants to say it so I will I guess. Don't shoot the messenger. sids mother gave him his fatal dose.

@thepunkrockreview

Ай бұрын

I've never heard that

@__swordfishtrombones

Ай бұрын

@@thepunkrockreview google it

@__swordfishtrombones

Ай бұрын

@@thepunkrockreview google it

@__swordfishtrombones

Ай бұрын

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@Q-154

Ай бұрын

I’ve heard that too. From what I’ve read he was going to be sent to prison for the murder of Nancy and she didn’t want him to have to go through that. It’s just a sad case all around.