This sounds like Finnish with Estonian traits. As a Finn I can understand most of their speech, and some words are familiar from my childhood when my grand- and great grand parents from Karelian isthmus were alive.

@taara69

26 күн бұрын

I agree, this sounds like a mix of Estonian and Finnish and it's surprising how much I understood, as an Estonian. We have finally found the key to understand each other :D

@jussikankinen9409

14 күн бұрын

Eesti is funny suomi, yy kaa Koli neli

@raapyna8544

13 күн бұрын

Kuulostaa turunmurteelta ja karjalalta minun mielestä. Tosin virolla on kyllä sama aksentti, kuin turunmurteella.

@sateentuoksu

13 күн бұрын

​@@jussikankinen9409 yes but no - Üks kaks kolm neli.

@NemohHoes

12 күн бұрын

Sounds much more like Estonian with Finnish traits. As an Estonian I can't understand Finnish, but I think I understood like 60% of this 😀

Saturday is sauna day. Some traditions refuse to change.

@kimmosaarinen2780

6 күн бұрын

Is life even worth living if you can't go to the sauna at saturday (and wednesday too)?

@akegan

6 күн бұрын

@@kimmosaarinen2780 nope

This is so interesting! I am Estonian, and when I listen to standard spoken Finnish I can understand very little, but here I largely understood what the people were talking about. And then the narrator started talking in standard Finnish and I went back to understanding almost nothing haha.

@wwondertwin

Жыл бұрын

It's almost completely understandable to me, a native Finnish speaker. I can't understand Estonian beyond a few words and the feeling that it sounds like I should understand it because it sounds like funny Finnish to me. Very interesting!

@rasmusvainio3774

Жыл бұрын

That's actually really interesting that speakers of both languages can understand this! And yes to me it just sounds like a weird version of Finnish where some words are not understandable.

@abeonthehill166

Жыл бұрын

So the Estonian and Finnish language is very similar ? This would suggest the Finnish language is very ancient and this is why these Siberian Finns and Estonians have many words in common . Thanks for your insights .

@eddyc8900

Жыл бұрын

@@abeonthehill166 2000 years ago they were pretty much the same language. Apparently. Nobody can say for sure. There's a lot of similarities. The meaning of certain words can be a bit different though. Modern Estonian tends to have more words of European origin. Karelian, Ingrian, Veps and Livonian are also closely related languages, but they're not widely spoken nowadays.

@DoktorKouts

Жыл бұрын

Täpselt! [That's Estonian.] Exactly! They lived with many Estonians, they say. Their Finnish is very understandable to me, & yes, today's Finnish is hit & miss with us, but this sounds very familiar. Huvitav! Interesting!

btw, this was shot in June 1992. In case anyone else is interested to know that 😁 Source: original documentary

@AnnatarLordOfGifts

12 күн бұрын

Bro i was literally born in tjt year and month

This is a linguistical treasure. What is left of the heritage of these people, my heart is with that. As expected, their speech is a combination of Finnic features I haven't ever heard anywhere else. The main component comes from different dialects of Finnish, but some speakers have very strong resemblance to Karelian (or Eastern component). There are also elements that have origin in Estonian. It can be heard that they have lived in an area in which different Finnic languages have had mutual influences.

@ristuksenvittu

2 жыл бұрын

voisin väittää että ukuritsat ja malinat on ainakin venäläistä alkuperää, voisin väittää että perunasta puhuvat kartoskana

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

Жыл бұрын

almost like they speak in an estonian accent

@KibyNykraft

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ce6iy2nw5o No... Hehh... Maybe one could say inkeri or old Petsamo /Salla dialects.

@KibyNykraft

Жыл бұрын

@@ristuksenvittu Malinen is a surname in north-eastern Norway , but there pronounced "Mallinen".

@reinokarvinen8845

6 ай бұрын

I got no troubles understanding

Karvalakki päässä oli kesä eli talvi👍❤

As a Russian currently living in Finland and learning Finnish, and previously living in Estonia, this is absolutely fascinating

This is an experience to say the least. I'm a native Estonian speaker and I moved to Finland when I was 11yo, so 14 years ago now. Basically I know both languages very well so it is so strange to hear this.

I have no idea why this was recommended to me, but I'm glad it was. By looking at the other people commenting, it seems that Estonians understand the Siberian Finnish but not the narrator/interviewer whereas I as a Finn understand both but not Estonian. Their dialect sounds very Savonian from time to time, especially Kosti's & Mari's pronunciation and the choices of the words. Especially when Kosti was speaking about how Finns weren't drafted in USSR and he was "savotassa" (doing forestry) which is a word still used in Northern-Savonia, but I haven't heard the word anywhere else in Finland.

@petrikarkkainen1586

13 күн бұрын

Kyllä savotta tunnetaan Kymenlaaksossakin.

@Joni_Tarvainen

13 күн бұрын

@@petrikarkkainen1586 No perhana, eipä ole tullut kuultua kertaakaan täällä vähän päälle vuosikymmenen asuneena 😅 Kiitokset infosta, hyvä että säilynyt täälläkin

@t0msula

13 күн бұрын

Lapissa kans savotta sana elää. Luulenpa että lähinnä merkityksensä takia hiipunut arkikäytöstä. Harvempi ihminen nykyään savotassa hommissa. Toki joissain murteissa sanaa käytetään puhekielessä vastineena kovalle työlle. Esim: "Oli siinä vain savottaa, mutta saatiin tehdyksi"

@Joni_Tarvainen

13 күн бұрын

@@t0msula Sittenhän tuo minun alkuperänen kommentti on ihan huuhaata ja tietämättömyyttä 😅 Tuo on kyllä ihan totta, että ei sitä metsä hommia yhtä isolla kädellä tänä päivänä tehdä ellei siihen oikeen kouluttaudu. Tuo myös, kuinka sitä käytetään yleisen työn nimikkeenä oli jotain, jonka olin jo unohtanut kokonaan kunnes sanoit. Esimerkiks minulla saattaa mutsi sanoa että "olipaha savottaa" ja hää on Kymenlaaksolainen, tosin Savossa pitkään myös asunut.

@SetiSupreme

13 күн бұрын

​@@Joni_TarvainenSavotta on kyllä erittäin yleinen sana ympäri Suomen. En nyt äkkiä edes keksi puunkaatohommille muuta nimeä! Terveisin Oulu

Siinä olisi varmaan ollut muidenkin suomalaisten kohtalo, jos Venäjä olisi valloittanut. Suomi olisi sitten asutettu "paremmalla väellä".

@TeroVaan-hi3hr

14 күн бұрын

No tuohan on suomalaisten alkuperäinen asuinpaikka.

@JohnDoe-ro4nf

14 күн бұрын

@@TeroVaan-hi3hr Niin on Afrikkakin

@robertohartikainen3578

14 күн бұрын

Vai olisko ollut sama kohtalo ku Baltian mailla...

@Nobody-Nowhere

14 күн бұрын

Ei tainnut Venäjä valloittaa vaikka hävittiin kaksi kertaa sodassa. Mutta mikäs olisi ollut lopputulos, jos oltaisiin voitettu? Luuletko että Saksa olisi säilyttänyt Suomen itsenäisyyden?

@krisu8193

14 күн бұрын

​@@JohnDoe-ro4nf debunkattu moneen kertaan toi "afrikka teoria".

Brilliant, pity the video was so short. God bless the algorithms for recommendation.

@Uralicchannel

11 күн бұрын

I somehow managed to hit the algorith jackpot!

Ihanat vanhukset, vaimo yrittää "pomottaa" 🥰

@TheSmardu

2 күн бұрын

Yrittää 😂 ei yritä, vaan pomottaa ja teurastaa lampaat

Mielenkiintoinen video!! Kiitos paljon! Toivon tällaisia haastatteluja lisää.

@endrebaracska5583

7 ай бұрын

Iam hungarian,your text not similar. In hungarian language this " Érdekes videó!! Nagyon köszönöm! Remélem még lesz ilyen interjú.

Nuts! As a Finn who has lived in Australian for 45 years ( came here as a child) I can actually understand this!!

@dntskdnttll

4 сағат бұрын

Good that you have kept the ability! If you have kids please please pass it on to them... the world gives too much pressure not to

Im finnish and I understand every word. Its like finnish language with partly estonian accent and few estonian words that are understandable, mostly words that are also modern finnish words.

@Uralicchannel

Жыл бұрын

Well Siberian Finnish is a dialect lol

@Kotifilosofi

14 күн бұрын

I find there's a lot less postpositions than in Finnish words, words are more in their simple basic form like in Estonian. Also the order of words on sentences resembles more that of Estonian than Finnish I think (Finnish is my native, I don't know Estonian other than what I've heard).

@tapijoz

13 күн бұрын

@@Kotifilosofi There are so many siberian Finnic Peoples so saying that is generalizing. But overall there are more postpositional suffixes in Estonian and the Finno Uralic languages other than Finnish. There are also way more consonant sounds and consonant gradation is more common and more widely used.

@Kotifilosofi

13 күн бұрын

@@tapijoz I didn't generalize anything, I just merely stated what I heard, without knowing the language and these dialects of Finnish. I doubt there is, because there's way more cases in Finnish than Estonian far as I know. For example, the suffixes of verbs in Finnish vs. Estonian. Or maybe I have false information 😅

@tapijoz

13 күн бұрын

@@Kotifilosofi I checked this and you were right, about estonian and finnish. Anyway, all the different languages should be thought about individually, because even though the languages are related, they have very different environmental influences. For example ngangasan love consonant gradation, there are so many different ones and they are thought to be germanic origin.

I love these people!!! They're beautiful!!! Im Finnish! These are my sisters and brothers 💖💖💖💖

@hippi1130

14 күн бұрын

incest is such a beautiful thing 😊💖

Ihmeellinen kun ehdotettu juuri nyt tätä, mutta mielenkiintoinen dokkari. Koskahan tää oli Yle:ltä oikeasti tullut.

@yoretabio4537

6 күн бұрын

1992 mainittu

Todella loistava pätkä!

Todella mielenkiintoista, kuunnella ja oppia. Hieno dokumentti.

My father's family evacuated from Karelia. The elders in this vid looked quite like my grandparents and their friends. My dear late grandmother used to say "a vot" when offering something to others. I understood these people quite well. A very interesting video!

@osk9013

Жыл бұрын

:) My grandparents from Karelian Isthmus spoke in similar way.

@jameslongstreet9259

Жыл бұрын

My grandad was from Kanneljärvi and my granmom from Uusikirkko on the Karelian Isthmus

@ReidGarwin

5 ай бұрын

Very similar to the old norse word for offering "blót"

@mijusa4724

3 ай бұрын

@markkumanni... Mulla on samankaltainen tausta. Isovanhempani isäni puolelta olivat Suojärveltä👍🏻😊

@yeast7485

15 күн бұрын

@@jameslongstreet9259 My great grandfather and grandmother are from uusikirkko as well! pieni maailma

There is also a lot of traits about finnish that was spoken before it has formed. Like say some 1940's finnish. There is that more so rouding up words when we don't really do that anymore. Kinda like Päläkähällä (a places name) with a swang and it would be now just straight up be Pälkähällä. Also like we used to elongate words a lot more like tyttö kasvanut kauniiiiks (girl has grown to be beautiful) with the swang when now wouldn't even be frased like that but more like on kyllä kasvanut kauniiks (really has become beautiful).

interesting point of note, she uses "veljeä" @4:40, karelians would use "veikat", so they're are southerners, indeed. At teh start of the vid i had some doubts, but that one tidbit settlet it. :D

Kiitos!

Very interesting. I can understand most of it as an Estonian.

@endrebaracska5583

7 ай бұрын

Write please your english sentence please Estonian.I sent you Hungarian" Nagyon érdekes. Mint Észt a többségét nem értem"

@j9mmer

5 ай бұрын

@@endrebaracska5583 Väga huvitav. Eestlasena saan suuremast osast aru.

@MyFalabella

3 ай бұрын

I speak Finnish as my mother tongue and Russian as a foreign language. I feel like their speech is a Finnish dialect with Estonian influences topped with some Russian words.

@arkan324

13 күн бұрын

@@MyFalabella And a slight russian accent. It's confusing how the man wearing flat cap at times sounds like a native and then uses some completely foreign words.

heiii it stops short!! eh, he was gonna say somethi

❤ Mitä sinne teille nyt kuuluu? Kaunista laulua, ja niin hyvin ymmärrettyä suomenkieltä vanhan pariskunnan puheessa. Inkerinsuomalaisia joita asui ennen Inkerinmaalla.

I'm learning Finnish and I was surprised on how much I could understand even tho my Finnish still not that good, I did noticed some Estonian words and a slightly Russian accent on their dialect.

I remember singing the same song from the beginning of the video at Estonian sunmer camp in Toronto as a kid.

Really interesting, for some reason it's a lot easier to understand this dialect as an Estonian than it is to understand someone from only 80km north from Helsingi, it's perhaps some differences in pronounciation or accent (and words being mixed)

Mielenkiintoinen video, kiitoksia

Sounds like Finnish from Rauma area. Some bits sounds like spoken Estonian but definitely Finnish words rather than Estonian. Excellent example how languages evolve.

@brandoninhofer6592

13 күн бұрын

Yes. After living around Rauma, I agree 😂.

wow... as a finn i was surprised to understand so much of what they said. it is weird to know that we have relatives in siberia ...but also kind of cool. too bad their children leave the villages and become russianized in moscow

@yksi2883

Жыл бұрын

My ancestors was born in Finland and in eastern Karelia, i was born in Siberia, buy i remember about my heritage and study finnish language.

@zoolkhan

Жыл бұрын

@@yksi2883 Very nice. It is so hard to keep the culture alife in times when the young people dont care, or cannot afford to care. All the best, and peace to you

@derkov

8 ай бұрын

these people are also sorry that Finns leave their farms and become Anglophiles in Swedish cities

@oltzu5206

22 күн бұрын

​@@yksi2883Mahtavaa

@nou712

15 күн бұрын

@@derkov Even if you were fried in butter...

Konaukko :D

As a finn that also speaks estonian fluently, I understand this near-perfectly. It’s funny how I caught myself understanding words like ”suvimüts”(more estonian than finnish) watching this with a finnish friend, who was then confused.

Amazingly, as a Swede I understood the Siberian Finns just as well as the Finnish guy - Not a single word. Would love some English subtitles to this!

This is pretty interesting. I myself am from around the Pirkanmaa region in Finland, lived a long time in Lapland, and I can understand everything fluently. Like Finnish with a Estonian rhythm to it. Some of it sounds kinda Karelian which is in part close to the northern dialects.

Tears started flowing 5 seconds after they started talking :(

As someone who lives in Finland and speaks some Finnish I understand a lot of what they are saying.

incredible! Just magnificent! I've never in my life heard that there is still trases of my people and our language left in siberia. And its compleatly undersandable, ofc there is some things that are at least for me left in the dark what they are saying but most I understand as a finnish man.

@SergeyPRKL

11 күн бұрын

many words they used, are used in the "Stadin slangi" the Helsinki city dialect from the earlier part of 1900's. And Karelian and Ingrian.

@Yourabortwouldhavebecome-ie7lr

11 күн бұрын

@@SergeyPRKL ik i've lived my whole life speaking stadin slangii

It's funny how the intonations *really* remind me of breton (spoken the good ol' way, but it sadly is very influenced by french pronunciation amoung the younger people that still speak the language, apart from a lucky few). It truly sounds rural, I love it.

Avartava pätkä, thanks for the upload

Neuvostoliitto oli valtava tragedia. Venäjän alueen eri kulttuurit, kielet ja kansat venäläistettiin pakolla. Stalin tuhosi inkerinsuomalaisten kulttuurin Pietarin alueella, muista kansoista puhumattakaan. Voidaan hyvällä syyllä puhua miljoonien tai ainakin satojen tuhansien suomalaisten kansanmurhasta.

Kiitos,...:)

♥️ nice to hear from them.

"Suolainen suomen maa" *thumbsup*

@vilivonkin6243

Жыл бұрын

Aika tönkkösuolattu jo.

This is like finding gold ! My grandparents spoke some sort like this so i understand it 99% Most of it it Finnish with an acsent and "frases" that chances in every region.

I think my grandmother in Finland spoke like that. It's not hard for me to understand 😀

Sieltä löytyy vielä aitoa vanhaa käsityöosaamista , jota ei enään suomesta löydy ✨🙏✨

It's Finnish, very easy to understand, they rhytm they speak in is more similar to Estonian.

@incremental_failure

Жыл бұрын

Very true. Must be the slavic/Russian influence. Many Estonians further in the south and/or near Russia speak like this. I find it quite alien as well. Northern Estonians speak more like Finns, slower and smoother.

@qwertyu600

Жыл бұрын

@@incremental_failure Interesting. I have noticed that some Estonian speakers are alot easier to understand with Finnish backround. Are there alot of dialects?

@incremental_failure

Жыл бұрын

@@qwertyu600 Estonian had many dialects before but since the language standardisation, they only exist as peculiarities, no-one in a modern settings would use them. There's some still used like in Tartumaa the word "hea" is often said as "hää" or Saaremaa resisting the õ letter and using ö instead.

@qwertyu600

Жыл бұрын

@@incremental_failure That's sad. :( Finland standardized their language aswell but people kept speaking their own dialects and still do to this day very strongly, alot of people do hide it though when they move to the cities but as soon as they go visit home they speak their dialect. And I'd say even that is changing and dialects are seen as more cool in the cities nowadays when before they were thought as farmer talk.

@incremental_failure

Жыл бұрын

@@qwertyu600 Finland is a far bigger, more important country. In the world of globalisation, it's all getting lost though in Estonia and it's just a natural process. No point being a luddite.

"Jos on liikaa niin kruunulle annetaan" 🤣 Neuvosto-Venäjällä ei ollut kansalla mitään muuta liikaa kun vessapaperin arvosia ruplia.

@ukk768

14 күн бұрын

Eikä kyllä rupliakaan ollu, ku kaikki mitä jäi yli meni armeijalle

very interesting video

Suomi, saami, shamaani 🙏

fucking facinating my grandpahs side is from carelia viipuri and other fathers father is origined from norther lapslands so i goth those siberian eskimo eyes but they are more deep inside in my head not having those russian ears and noses what amasing sympathethick scene to see my roots and still unerstand some what they try to tell if you speaks simple things

what I like about this clip is that they don't have russian accent

@JoskuEllis

Жыл бұрын

Obvious propaganda.

@ristusnotta1653

Жыл бұрын

what do you mean they do have accent :D

@vseslavkazakov356

Жыл бұрын

@@ristusnotta1653 idk I don't speak Siberian Finnish however whenever I listen to any Russian minority language I can hear that the sounds are exactly the same as those in Russian language and if it wasn't for the fact that I could not understand a single word, I would probably not even be able to differentiate between the language and Russian. In this video however, I can clearly hear that the language does not sound like Russian at all.

@ristusnotta1653

Жыл бұрын

@@vseslavkazakov356 well i am a Finnish speaker and that sounds exactly like what it would sound when a Russian tries to pronounce Finnish

@hrn4757

Жыл бұрын

@@ristusnotta1653 No way, man. Puppua! The man doesn't speak much but the woman certainly doesn't sound like a Russian trying to speak Finnish AT ALL. It sounds exactly like she's a native speaker of an Eastern Finnish / Karelian / border zone dialect but maybe hasn't spoken Finnish for a while.

Im a finnish swedish american, on my dads side my grandmother and all my great aunts would speak english with a very thick finnish accent. On my moms side her grandmother lived here in the U.P. of MI and never learned English, only spoke finnish.

PLEASE ENABLE SUBTITLES! I'd love to see KZread trying to translate this!

@juhanaliesjarvi9139

6 күн бұрын

impossible😂 this ain't even a language but a dialect

Suomea myös muualla. Hyvä🎉Seppo Suomesta. 😍

Surullista, kun pakotettu muuttamaan kotimaastaan aikoinaan :(

Waaaw. As a finnish guy this is fascinating God bless our brothers and sisters all around in Russia 🔥

Interesting. It took a few minutes to get adjusted to their dialect, but after that I understood nearly everything. The words I didn't understand I could guess from context.

@SpringWaterPaul

6 ай бұрын

Nii

@barocuseremiticus

6 ай бұрын

no@@SpringWaterPaul

Nice.

Our ppl the most brave of them all

Tavallaan muistuttaa Viron (eesti) kieltä aika paljon.

I am Turkish and my uncle looks like that grandma, especially in nose and eyebrows I also look like her but ı don't look like her husband and I look like a bit of a Kosti Mertsov face type

Yep

talking like my karelian grand mum. I understand the lot

Ukkini ja ukin suku kotoisin Suojärveltä, Karjala brihatsu tziikaili zirbuloit ja jne. Olisi hienoa kuulla lisää näiden Krjalaisten sukujuurista.💪

It sounds like their family perhaps were Karelian-Finnish? I know Karelian languages (mostly Aunus dialect) and there's something very comforting and familiar about their speech! Thank you for sharing

@SergeyPRKL

11 күн бұрын

I bet they are Ingrians originally.

@pomelo9262

10 күн бұрын

​​​​​@@SergeyPRKLinkerin suomalaiset oli rajaseudulla asumassa, ei siperiassa. Kun nämä haastateltavat on ainakin parin polven ajan olleet tuolla. Inkeriläiset jaottuivat vasta sodan jälkeen venäjän ja suomen puolille, näiden ihmisten isovanhemmat loikkasivat venäjälle paljon ennen tätä

How long have these people been living in those eastern locations with little or no contacts with Finland? As to differences between Finnish and Estonian (and Livian), you need to consider the fact that some “estrangement” of Estonian (and Livian) from other Finnic languages came to be exacerbated by strong lexical influences from Low Saxon (“Low German”) and German. I seem to have heard in the video the Estonian word “müts” for “(woolen) cap” (rather than Finnish “myssy”). That comes from Low Saxon “Mütz” (or German “Mütze”).

@avatarion

13 күн бұрын

Not for long. Soviets forcibly moved them there.

Hieman on vaikeaa pysyä perässä, mut jos asuis heidän kanssaan pari päivää niin ehkä ymmärtäisin paremmin.

@tuolinkantaja

3 күн бұрын

Käyttää vähän väliä venäläisiä lainasanoja mutta sanovat ne suomalaisittain. Itelle särähtikorvaa ”Kasutarstva” sana. Just niiku mummo aikoinaa sen lausu 😂

As a estonian i can understand siberian finnish more than finnish itself.

I swear Paavo is Estonian, I can tell from his mumbling.

Kuis usein saunaa lämmität..? Joka viikko, lauantain. OG OG :)

@InkyMuste

13 күн бұрын

Mielenkiintosta kyllä miettiä että miten kauas tuokin tapa menee

@SatumainenOlento

11 күн бұрын

Supi suomalainen siis 😅

Around 5:05 "...Mikä natsi me ollaan..." "...What nazi we are..." That cracked me right up. Nationality is what it means here, but of course that evoked a few chuckles. :D

I believe one of the uses of AI would be to keep this alive for the times to come!

♥

Minä vuonna tämä dokumentti on kuvattu? Kiitän. Tosi hyvä mielenkiintoinen video.

@marin_1441

Жыл бұрын

I guess 1990s

@oz_jones

13 күн бұрын

1992 dokumentti julkaistiin alunperin , joten varmaan 1990/1991-92 kuvattu.

Jännän kuulonen kieli, ku kuulostaa suomelta, karjalan kieleltä ja eestiltä yhtä aikaa, lievällä venäläisellä aksentilla. Interesting language, sounds like finnish, karelian and estonian at the same time, with a slight russian accent.

wow

Mikähä lie on tuon metsovien alaku peräne sukumini 🤔

❤

Niin muuten...Suomalaisten alkuperä on muiden länsiuralilaisten ja itämerensuomalaisten kansojen tavoin Volga-, Oka- ja Kama-jokien välillä nykyisen Venäjän alueella.

Selevee suomee!

They speak like halfway between Finnish and Estonian? At least that's my impression as a Finnish speaker. Cool. Someone commented they might be derived mainly from Ingrians Finns. Ingria is next to Estonia.

This is very interesting, this national history thats most likely going to get forgotten in couple decades.

@Uralicchannel

8 күн бұрын

This video got so many views, I probably saved the memory of Siberian Finns here for some time : )

Erikoisjännää

Gorlakan kieli. Nimi tulee varmasti venäjän kielen sanasta горло (gorlo) joka meinaa kurkkua. Ja he nimittävät itseään gorlakoiksi syystä että ovat tietoisia siitä että ovat jokseenkin venäläistyneet ja täten heijän suomensa on alkanu kuulostaa enemmän siltä että sitä puhuttais venäläisittäin, eli kurkusta ääntäen.

@Uralicchannel

2 жыл бұрын

Sana korlaka on tietämätön

@Zombiripuli

2 жыл бұрын

@@useruser57263 Suomalaisuus ei määrity sen perusteella, onko sen eteen täytynyt tehdä jotain. Se on veressä, kielessä ja kulttuurissa. Se että te Venäjän puolella asuvat inkerinsuomalaiset puhutte eri tavalla ääntäen, kuulostaa meille siltä kuin olisitte venäläistyneitä. Siitä ei pidä tuntea syyllisyyttä, vaan päinvastoin olla ylpeä siitä, että on oma rodullinen identiteetti vielä vahvana omassa sielussa ja mielessä. Tiedän poikkeuksellisen hyvin, miten olette joutuneet kärsimään juutalais-kommunismin alla, ja miten monet teistä on tapettu täysin syyttä. Mutta voitko itse sanoa että joku inkeriä solkkaava tuttavasi ei missään nimessä ole venäläistynyt, jos hän puhuu venäjää äidinkielen tasolla ja inkeriä/suomea huonosti ja paksulla venäläisellä aksentilla? En koskaan tule antamaan anteeksi Neuvostoliitolle tai kommunisteille, jotka saivat kylmäveriset kansanmurhat kansojamme kohtaan aikaan, siksi itse taistelenkin Suomessa oman kansani jatkuvuudesta hamaan ikuisuuteen. Tämä tarkoittaa kulttuuri-marxismin heikentämistä kaikilla rintamilla ja nationalismin kasvattamista joka puolella. Toivon teillekin vain parasta, ja toivon että vahvistatte identiteettiänne niin paljon, että teidän lapsenlapsennekin tietävät tarkalleen, mitä kansaa ovat. Toivon että kansanne kokee uuden kevään, kansannousun, jolloin elvytätte itsenne uuteen loistoon.

@ashphyxia

Жыл бұрын

@@Zombiripuli hi! Just noticed that when it comes to soviets you think very similar to us ukrainians who are aware of russian colonization on our land. I hope we all (post-soviet countries) will live without russian imperialism someday and don't have to worry about our identities ever again! :)

@vlmr4112

Жыл бұрын

@@useruser57263 How I agree with you! Therefore, as a Russian Finn, I stopped dreaming that Finland would help the Karelians and Russian Ingrians. No, they won't help. We are enemies for them. Karelians, Inkeriläiset and Veps will have to fight for their own identity. Without Finns.

@stepanfedorov561

Жыл бұрын

@@vlmr4112 The Karelians, the Vepsians and the Ingrian are no longer physically there, their languages ​​have been lost.

Fascinating. As a Brit struggling to learn Finnish I could understand quite a lot towards the end with the subtitles. It shows how backward Russia is when you compare what people have achieved in Finland. It’s like a century removed in time,

@user-ir4bj4tj3t

2 ай бұрын

Backward but sent human to space. Embrace backwardness

@Chris-mf1rm

22 күн бұрын

@@user-ir4bj4tj3t no bloody use to the poor people with no infrastructure

@amluist

14 күн бұрын

@@user-ir4bj4tj3t Progress for me, not for thee. Or however it went

@julisod

14 күн бұрын

They might also be more isolated from the rest of Russia? At least that would've helped them to preserve the language

@jammi__

14 күн бұрын

@@user-ir4bj4tj3t The space arms race destroyed communism by bankrupting them trying to outcompete the free world. Especially SDI was ingenious on Reagan's part. Russians did try to compete though, but at the cost of things like food and basic stuff for the people, which commies never valued anyway, and still don't. The people will starve rather than letting some abitious goal of the communist leaders fall back.

Miten nämä siperiaan on pääytynyt? Stalinin vainoissa vai?

@Uralicchannel

3 жыл бұрын

Joo

@tampereenkeskustaajama3057

3 жыл бұрын

@@Uralicchannel Kiitos vastauksesta!

@jiajiaoioi

13 күн бұрын

Tosiasiahan on se, että suomalaisten maat on yltänyt norjan rannikoilta aina uralille asti. Voit itse päätellä loput. Jos siis kriittistä ajattelua on tänä päivänä enään pätkääkään jäljellä.

@molotovribbentrop2839

12 күн бұрын

@@jiajiaoioi *Suomalais-Ugrilaisten maat, ei Suomalaisten

@SergeyPRKL

11 күн бұрын

suosittelen lukemistoa: Vieras isänmaa INKERILÄISEN KOHTALONTIE Oskar Himiläinen

Ymmärsin täysin!

70% Finnish 25% Estonian 5% Russian. Juontaja on muuten nykyään maanpuolustuskorkeakoulun strategian laitoksen professori, Alpo Juntunen. Ehdotteli 2016 sotilasliittoa Venäjän kanssa.

@nollatoleranssi9177

Жыл бұрын

Ihan hauska tieto. Aikamoinen ehdotus tuo puolustusliitto.

@AnoAssassin

Жыл бұрын

Vain kaks vuotta Pienien Vihreiden Miesten jälkeen, on otsaa

Enemmän nämä ihmiset kuulostavat savolaisilta kuin virolaislta.

"ota paljain päin" 😅

Kõlab eesti ja soome keelte segu moodi. Kuulostaa viron ja suomen kielen yhdistelmältä.

@tomsilven

15 күн бұрын

Inkerinmaa

@Telfia

14 күн бұрын

@@tomsilven Voi olla

@SergeyPRKL

11 күн бұрын

@@Telfia on. Iha selvää inkeriä.

Funny how easy it was to understand 99% what they said. Also the last interview about jumpers.. The life didn't differ at all in the country side of Finland and Soviet Union, but still people "jumped" to both sides.

@hrn4757

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. The part about "jumpers" was actually about Finnish "Reds", meaning members of the armed left-wing side of the 1918 Finnish Civil War, escaping reprisals in the face of defeat by crossing the border. "Jumping" (loikata) can also mean "defecting". So, the interviewer was asking whether there were any Reds there too, and they agreed there were some, the man adding that the Reds themselves joked about being "(over-the-border) jumpers /defectors". Later on, those Finnish communist cadres were quite thoroughly purged by Stalin mostly around 1937-38. Early 1900s in the country side could be very harsh for people at socio-economic bottom (temp workers, landless, many tenant farmers), and one of the reason behind the political polarization leading up to the Civil War soon after Lenin had to accept Finland's declaration of independence. The Civil War and especially its aftermath was quite bloody, but in the following years and decades reforms were passed (including land reform) and the living conditions of the working class and the rural poor improved significantly compared to the awful conditions in Soviet Karelia even up to the 1930s. So, when Stalin invaded Finland in 1939, he was faced with a united people, nearly all of the communists included.

@Qvadratus.

8 ай бұрын

@@hrn4757 yes, Germany also started to improve their economy at the time by building concentration camps.

@hrn4757

7 ай бұрын

@@Qvadratus. You're obviously trolling but I can't resist since my comment wasn't that clear on the timing of the post-Civil War reforms. They began almost immediately in 1919 with the land reform. Nothing to do with the post-depression economic boom/growth in Nazi Germany, or anywhere else for that matter (and in Nazi Germany it wasn't due to concentration camps, which were scaled up only later during the war and the Holocaust, anyway...).

@Qvadratus.

7 ай бұрын

@@hrn4757 yes, it wasn't. it was direct finance by the Western Bankers to avoid revolution in Germany and have somebody to fight USSR. that is why they didn't let Hjalmar Schacht to be judged in Nuremberg, even though he was the author of the "Nazi Economic Miracle". capitalists had camps even prior to Nazis. like the ones in South Africa. and in general they where living off pillage and genocide in the 3rd world. it is kinda funny but Hitler never wanted to do anything else in USSR then what Brits did in Americas. although he become "Evil" and Brits just spread "civilization" to this day. they used him as scapegoat. to blame him for everything they done themselves before and be the victors over "evil nazis". and little Finland is just a part of this "capitalist paradise" for 10 % of worlds population.

@henriikkak2091

5 ай бұрын

It differed quite a bit. Half of the people who defected in the 1920s were killed in Stalin's purges in the 1930s

As a finn i can understand, for the most part! Not every word though.

Hey Valt. How different is siberian finnish from Fennoscandian finnish?

@ristusnotta1653

3 жыл бұрын

i think they are originally from Karelia (east of Finland), at least the way they speak sounds like some Karelian dialect to me, there might be some Russian words added here and there too

@FinQuerilla

2 жыл бұрын

That last guy had rather strong "Bothnic" dialect (his wife spoke something else). 5:25 "Minuu ei otettu" 5:42 "Oli niit' täälkin." 5:46 "Aina nauro sielt' että, me ollaa suomen ylirajanloikkari" 5:52 "Itte sano'vat itteen päälle" Also I have to say I can hear other kind of influences from him but mostly Bothnic. I'm from Central-Bothnia

@Krinzadar

2 жыл бұрын

It's like watching an old finnish movie with heavy accents. The more I watch it the clearer it becomes. I can understand pretty much everything.

@Jrgosman

Жыл бұрын

It's like some older finnish dialect

@zami8827

Жыл бұрын

Its pretty different, like that russian have fused in the finnish, but its pretty undertandable.

they kinda sound more estonian when speaking than a finnish

Mitenköhän nuorena ovat muuttaneet Siperiaan, kuitenkin ovat syntyneet Suomessa mutta kieli on niin paljon muuttunut.

@karikoivu6458

6 ай бұрын

Veikkaampa että karkoitettu koko perhe Siperiaan sodan jälkeen

@Sealife834

6 ай бұрын

Ei nämä ole syntyneet Suomessa vaan ovat Siperiaan karkoitettujen karjalaisten jälkeläisiä. Kun Venäjä valloitti Suomen Karjalan sodassa, iso osa karjalaisista joutui Siperiaan