Finally watched this. Really enjoyed it! I don't consume a lot of gaming content but gave me some early Jon Bois vibes. The juxtaposition of silliness with serious topics and seriousness with silly topics gets my noodle cookin. I love the idea of Shy Guys being an eldritch horror and a potential Joe Everyman at the same time~

Shyguys definitely deserve more from Nintendo! Love your thought process on their characteristics now though.

I just clicked this randomly AND WOAH MY FIRST VIDEO RESPONSE. Can't wait to watch this

"Picture in your mind...a black Toad". Ok that was not the sentence I was expecting.

Dang I never meant to upset Hulk Hogan

Evil dreams incite wicked thoughts in the individual but are pleasant as well, it's COMPLETELY different than a nightmare, 4.5/10 15:02 Paper Mario 64 and Paper Mario Sticker Star So what you're saying is... Shy Guys should be in Kirby, because Kirby... is in DREAMLAND! good vid

Shy Guys are part of Bowser's army serving major roles. You have the Shy Squad probably later renamed the Shy Guy Squad. You have the Fly Guys of SM64, you have Shy Guys like Captain Shy Guy and Sergeant Shy Guy, Color Splash, etc. etc. Pretty major minions of Bowser's troops. Fun fact the Shy Guys of SuperStar Baseball are the same ones that worked for King Wart, and they turned into friendly rivals to Mario. Boos do get stronger in numbers, i think enough get together they loose that fear or. Or if their abilities are amplified by say King Boo's Jeweled Crown. Well like Toad variety there is Shy Guy variety. Shy Guy Ghosts do exist. If Shy Guys all originate from Subcon and left it on their own accord then their origin could be tied to that dream world. The manual states the Shy Guys of SMB2USA are part of the 8 bits, a club of evil dreams. As previously mentioned even if evil dreams are their origin they do become good guys, at least the ones of SMB2USA. Note the manual does acknowledge Subcon wasn't just a dream, and even mentions Mario and friends finding a door in a cave to the land of dreams. A Toad remembers the events of SMB2USA. The is the previously mentioned thing about Shy Guys. Birdo references the events of SMB2SUSA. And there is the sequel B S Super Mario USA. SMB2USA is not the only time we see dream worlds. There is the Dream Depot and the dream realm of Dream team. I'd also note Babies in the Mario world are delivered by stork from a magical place, and if anything this is connected to Star/Wish Magic. The alleged mandates I don't think is an actual thing, and many others think so as well. Intelligent Systems only said it was no longer possible to alter the characters or make new characters, they never say why. This is contradicted by them altering the Toads and adding original characters, and Intelligent Systems outright stated they had full creative control. Meanwhile other Mario games didn't abide by this "rule." I think that Intelligent Systems instead of make a bunch of new models just took the easy way out and made bunch of copy and pastes of the og characters. I will note they can have an excuse for doing this in Sticker Star, not so much the other games. Also, for arguments sake let's say there was a mandate against altering designs of existing characters and adding new ones. Mario Kart Tour has so many costumes and alts for the characters. Mario Wonder introduced so many new characters. Etc etc Also, the story comment was a suggest and they didn't have to abide by it, again they had full creative control. No character is truly forgotten, they are always up the sleeves. Nintendo never treats any of the games like they don't matter or didn't happen. They are always established as being part of the Canon of the Mario Tales/

I commented this on Bubble Rift's video, but... Shy Guys actually appear in Super Mario RPG. So did Snifits! And Birdo! And some generic rats that resemble Mouser. Actually, several of the enemies and characters in SMRPG eithet come from Mario 2, or would fit right in... And never appear again, outside of like, Mario Party, or sports games, very very rarely. It makes me wonder if SMRPG- which features some really outlandish stuff for the Mario franchise of its release date- might not have been a sort of a dream. It isn't said or even implied by the gamr, but given how... Outside of the usual Mario fare it is, I can see it. Additionally, there is some weird dreams that are involved in that game, when you use the dream pillow in Nimbus Land. Not sure if that's relevant at all.

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I do think Smithy breaking Star Road may have put a temporary hole in reality or something-- and the Shysters/Shymores have always given me a lot of questions. Were they BASED on local Shyguys, or converted from? ...Or had Smithy met Shyguys before he hit the Mario world? I would love to see Orbison, Puppox, Doppel, and other SMRPG enemies in more games though. Also Boshi