Commodore sold the full keyboard PET under the 2001 name in Europe as well. I used a PET 2001 with full keyboard at school. The rebranding as CBM was global. The number of sub variants of the machines is quite astonishing.

Seemingly, the plan for the 8032 was to have the floppy drives be internal, but that obviously didn't work out. Maybe the Commodore 1001 floppy drive was the final fruit of that idea? That drive looked like a 1541 but it connected through the IEEE port.

Nice! I didn't know that PETs even had manuals or that they ever had speech modules or printers. Awesome to see all of these in one video!

Fantastic tour through the PET line, and a beautiful collection too. Have fun at VCF-West!

I only have two models, a 4032 with the large CRT screen option and dual disk drive package. A also have two twin drive 8296 (?) Porsche designed curvy PETs. Sadly none of them work or can be easily fixed. Lovely machines. I think it's a 4000 series PET in the nuclear bunker in Terminator 3.

That is an AMAZING collection!!!

The Commodore IEEE488 cables have, on the PET side, little notches that fit the little slots between two of the pin pairs . So there used to be protection against putting it on the user port or the wrong way... unless the notches have fallen out...

What a nice collection! Just a single CBM 8032 and a 4040 drive for me! I can't wait to see what that voice box does!

@katho8472

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Chuck's one should get a repair :)

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Rob Clarke made a great video demoing the 4010. There's a link in the description.

Thank you for showing all of your enviable PET collection.! Wish I could see it at VCFW next weekend.

Nice collection. One thing that bums me out about my “B” model (2001-32B) is that almost no software I want to run is compatible with it. I can’t for the life of me figure out why Commodore created standards that were so close to identical yet mostly incompatible with each other. Keyboard styles, graphics modes, disk formats…. WHY?!

VCF-West is Aug 6th and 7th at the CHM in Mountain View, Ca. vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-west/ I apologize for the poor audio quality. My microphone gain was too low while I was recording forcing me to raise the gain in post which raised the noise floor quite a lot.

Amazing collection, congrats! 👍

Beautiful collection! And so clean, unlike my PETs.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Are you bringing one of yours to VCF? PetPix?

@bitfixer6502

Жыл бұрын

@@HutchCA Yes, I will most likely bring a 2001 and an 8032 to run the PETpix demo, one with live video and the other with some youtube videos that look good on it.

Cool video! The part that blew me away is the internal mounts for two floppy drives that never made it into production. Only thing I could think of having dual floppy drives as part of the computer would have made it very expensive. It already cost $1,300 new so adding another $1,000 to the cost of initial purchase is probably hard thing for anyone to swallow at the time.

@katho8472

Жыл бұрын

If it wouldn't mean "ruining" a PET, it would be so cool to modify one and put drives in there. Hm, maybe if the motherboard also already has been replaced by a MiniPET? Like, it wouldn't be original anyway, and then it doesn't make too much of a difference to modify it some more and try to envision what could have been...

Great look at your PETs, Chuck! I didn't know about 40 column business machines like the 2001-16B and -32B mentioned in the catalog; they must be really rare. And I looked into it a little more, and there were supposedly CBM 4032 models with the business keyboard too; CBM instead of PET to indicate business. Difficult to find a picture of one online, they're either really low-res or clearly have the much bigger keypad of the graphics keyboards.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the elusive 2001-B. I've seen a couple of them in the wild but not many. I don't recall ever seeing a 4032-B but I wouldn't doubt they exist.

Very very nice collection... I want a SuperPET now ;)

Thanks for collection walk through Chuck! Hadn't seen some of those disk drives and had no idea the 4010 existed back in the day! The chicklet PET always brings back memories of grade 7 and my discovery of computers... they were and still are Wizardry!

Wow ❤❤

very nice. Thanks for sharing.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Gorgeous

Great video! Very nice to see all your PETs together. … and a very compact way to get a lot of infos about them.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

For the VICE emulator I wrote an optional ROM patch to make IEEE488 work with the BASIC 1 ROMs

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I think that patch is included in the mini-PET. Is there anything written about your patch that explains what the original problem was?

@8bittimes

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately not that I recall. Would have to re-engineer that.

How did you shoot these without getting any screen reflections? They look awesome.

Love the Video! I was hoping you had an 8250 Disk Drive in the mix as I own one but know nothing about it and a quick tour would've been dandy. I also own an 8050 and 2031LP which I learned a little moe about in this Video. Will hopefully get to my 8032 soon but I will deal with the RIFA Cap(s) first before they release that Magic Smoke, lol. -Mark.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

The 8250 is similar to the 8050 but is double-sided so it has twice the capacity per disk or ~1MB. I'd love to have one but 8250s aren't very common and expensive when they do come up for sale.

@deborahberi3249

Жыл бұрын

@@HutchCA Yeah, I will one day not too far away part with ALL my Commodore Pet Equipment including I believe a 9090 Drive (correct me if I'm off on that one). I, by order and decree, am being 'coaxed' into downsizing my Retro Collection so I've been grudgingly selling pieces off over the past 2 years although somewhat hobbled during the height of the Covid Panic. -Mark.

Sweet! Would have loved to see them in real life :)

Very cool seeing all the PET models. I own a 2001-16 N however it has some slight differences from your 2001-32 N. My case top is not metal, the badge is plastic and sort of snaps into the case (like your 8032) but has the same printing/markings as yours and the kickstand is on the lower portion of the case, not the top like yours. You mention 1979 for your 2001-32 N however my 2001-16 N says 1978, so maybe because mine came before the 2001-32?

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

The 2001-xxN series wasn't even sold until Summer of 1979, so I think your date for your -16N is in error. How are you determining the date? The case you describe is a 1980 style. Of course there could be a mix of parts made at different times. The board may have been replaced at some time.

@geekwithsocialskills

Жыл бұрын

@@HutchCA Maybe I'm brain farting on the year LOL. You're the expert, so I'll go with 1979 at minimum. Take a look at this video of my PET 2001-16N and give me your thoughts. Around the 9 minute mark I show the back panel and serial number stickers kzread.info/dash/bejne/Za1su66AYpvJqsY.html

@8bittimes

Жыл бұрын

You should be also looking for the 8032SK or 8296 - they have beautiful new cases and the 8296 even has 128k of RAM

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

@@8bittimes I'm about out of space to collect any more. I don't have any of the CBM-II machines as those are not very common in the US.

@8bittimes

Жыл бұрын

The 8296 is not a CBM-2. It's a real PET with a newly designed main board and rounded cases. The 8296D even has a 8250lp builtin. The CBM-2 were a completely different incompatible line with the 6509 processor (a 6502 with a memory management extension)

lol. extra switches for disk detect. would simply have used the write protect notch ldr and light. wether a disk is write protected or not, it will change state when you insert a disk while you move it in or out of the drive. hook that change of state to /irq somehow with some logic or just keep polling it and tadaa. done. no extra switch. but ofcourse it's also practical to know if the drive door is closed before turning the motor on :P

On restoring the computer. Is there a recommendation for a color match? Mine does have a few scratches. Some you can see where rust has occurred but its not really bad, just makes it look a bit dirty.

Nice collection!!! I have a PET 2001-32 B, not N. Serial 0-810355. What is the difference? The only difference I can see is cosmetic. The characters on the screen are white, not green. Also the on/off switch does not have a label below it.

@HutchCA

10 ай бұрын

The B means it has the "Business" or Typewriter style keyboard.

Thanks Chuck, found this video very informative for the various models. I finally, this weekend, swapped out my IEC connector on my PET based on your Rifa video. I did look, the Rifas didn't look too bad but still glad it's replaced. I also had to use standard IEC as they don't make the correct fitting filtered one anymore but i doubt that even matters anymore. Unrelated, my 4032 was modified to 80 column by previous owner, and it was suggested that i revert it back to 40 column as I'm told very little works with 80 column, what would you suggest?

@geekwithsocialskills

Жыл бұрын

I vote that you revert your PET 4032 back to 40 columns. I also need to replace my IEC connector since the RIFA recently blew on it. RIFA filter caps and Varta batteries are just buggers.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Re: the 4032, the main source of incompatibility is the keyboard, not the screen. There's a program for the 8032 called "cbm4032.prg" that will reconfigure the CRTC for 40 columns, then as long as you have the N type keyboard, most things for the 4032 should run fine. There's also a mod you can do that will let you switch via hardware between 80 and 40 columns.

@brianv2871

Жыл бұрын

@@geekwithsocialskills Yeah, Adrian is the one who keeps telling me to do that, but i want to explore my options before i did anything 😃. And yeah, normally i swap out every Rifa but didn't know about the IEC ones in the Pet until Chucks video.

@brianv2871

Жыл бұрын

@@HutchCA thanks Chuck, I'll look for that program as well as the switch mod. I like the idea of being able to switch between the two.

@geekwithsocialskills

Жыл бұрын

@@brianv2871 first Adrian was the CRT quality expert, and now he's the "revert it back to stock" expert LOL, but I do agree with him that putting it back to 40 column mode would be preferred. Like you, until watching Chuck's video, I had zero idea there was a RIFA hiding inside the IEC connector. Chuck knows a thing or two about PETs for sure!

👍

i take it they all have that expansion connector with the full bus up to adress 11 and signals on the side. and that they also all have the appropriate hole in the case there to access it? is this also freely accessible on the superpet or already in use for something inside of it?

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

The expansion connector was a large card edge on the 1977/78 PETs but changed to pin headers in '79 and later models. Probably because most hardware that used it was mounted inside. Those pin headers are in use on the Super PET for the expansion boards inside.

@CB3ROB-CyberBunker

Жыл бұрын

@@HutchCA so no producing network adapters for those, selling them to random clients, and they'll just work on any random pet, unless we ship some adapter cable with them for both situations minus the superpet. also the new minipet board doesn't seem to have one at all (fail ;)

You miss the 8032 designed by Porsche

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

Those are the CBM II line, and yes, I don't have one of those. They are not very common in North America. It is a myth that they were designed by Porsche. Commodore rejected the Porsche design and went with the design my Ira Velensky.

How do you check power from the psu on a PET with a multimeter?

@HutchCA

2 ай бұрын

I have another video on that subject. ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4h7u62uoLiqgLw.html )

@StefSis

2 ай бұрын

@@HutchCA Lovely. Thank you so much. I have a dead monitor on my 8296-D 🙏

and the screen bezel and label are actually black. not blue like on some of em.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

The Blue screen bezel was in use from Dec '77 through mid 1978. The blue case badge was only used for a short time from Jan thru Mar of '78.

Can Commodore "2001" series accept linux?

How did you get so much

@HutchCA

9 ай бұрын

One at a time.

@user-sj3po6lx5k

9 ай бұрын

@@HutchCA no i mean where

@HutchCA

9 ай бұрын

@@user-sj3po6lx5k Mostly Ebay. Two were from personal sales locally.

the dual drive only has one analog board for the both of em?! that's weird.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

It's really two in one board. Everything is duplicated.

nope. no using the userport with modems. at least not without putting the uart emulation code in your own program. as pets lack that part of the c64 and vic-20 firmware. and only the superpet has a real uart.

@HutchCA

Жыл бұрын

There's a program called PET Term in common use as well as several vintage programs from back in the day that implement their own bit-bang serial transmit and receive.