SHOULD YOU USE A PLOW OR A ROTOTILLER? WE COMPARE THE TWO.

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  • @GoodWorksTractors
    @GoodWorksTractors2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Northwestprepper411

    @Northwestprepper411

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would like a set of those mirrors and mirror mounts, do you sell them?

  • @shannonfrericks1124

    @shannonfrericks1124

    10 ай бұрын

    Jñnñņ

  • @horneism
    @horneism2 жыл бұрын

    Here in Australia we would call that a three tyne cultivator. Cultivators are usually used on ground that has already been disturbed rather than on virgin ground.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, we have a different tool from Dirt Dog that's called a cultivator. Rigid offset tines, no springs. Made to use after deep tilling is done.

  • @davidcassity6593

    @davidcassity6593

    2 жыл бұрын

    This was used in US as a chisel plow. It was generally used to eliminate soil compaction on ground that that was in general annual agricultural production. Moldboard plows can be used for this, but it’s generally for turning biomass under, then followed by a disc harrow. Tillers are generally new to US and most larger farmer use no till procedures

  • @bobbyjones9017

    @bobbyjones9017

    11 ай бұрын

    Cultivators have smaller shanks. These are rippers going deep into the ground.

  • @frederickburns1739
    @frederickburns17392 жыл бұрын

    Courtney, I am a retired farmer and what your using is a spring tooth cultivator which to me is a mini version of a chisel plow. It just doesn't go as deep as it's big brother! As for results you're attacking your field incorrectly. You should go one direction on the first pass and cross hatch on the second pass. Like tic tac toe. #

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Frederick. I'm not going wide enough to criss cross. That is the right approach, but at only 16' wide, it would take an absolute eternity to do. Thanks for chiming in!

  • @frederickburns1739

    @frederickburns1739

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoodWorksTractors I feel your pain. I sold my farm and now have 2 acres and a small garden patch.

  • @thegreenerthemeaner
    @thegreenerthemeaner2 жыл бұрын

    When Chisel plows first came out, the rule of thumb was 10 PTO HP per shank if you were running 10 inches deep. That depth was determined because 8 " was the depth most people moldboard plowed. The idea was to shatter thru the hard pan that had gotten established from decades of that practice. The other upside is you could cover more ground. A 90-100 PTO HP tractor could pull a 9 ft 9 shank chisel. By comparison, a 5 bottom plow with 16" moldboards would only cover 80" or just under 7 ft. Those 2 extra feet per pass was like having a tractor with 135 to 150 PTO HP. I doubt you can put 3 shanks 10 inches deep with this rig, but I imagine 5-6 " is not asking too much of it depending on soil type.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good info, makes good sense to me!

  • @thehillbillyhermit7681

    @thehillbillyhermit7681

    2 жыл бұрын

    excellent explanation ! we typically used our chisel plow after 2 or 3 years of no till planting field corn or when opening up a piece of virgin ground that was abnormally hard. Then went down 8"-10" first time, then perpendicular another 6"-8"

  • @thegreenerthemeaner

    @thegreenerthemeaner

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Papa A's Off Grid Retirement Where I live, there are sandy soils. They get pretty tight after a couple of years. Usually, 2 years of no till corn, then 1 year of beans. Then a Disc Chisel combination or a Multch till implement is used to loosen things up. It's usually ran slightly biased to the previous row direction. The hard pan from moldboarding is gone these days, but you can get vertical and horizontal soil mix in one pass and cover a lot of ground in one 10 hour day. A 225 hp FWA tractor with a 24ft disc chisel can cover 100 acres in about 8 hours and not kill the fuel bill or beat you to death.

  • @zombieresponder

    @zombieresponder

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've run a 7 shank chisel, approx 6' wide, behind a Ford 800 series. In truth, it should be a nine shank, but some springs were broken when my uncle bought it, so he just removed two shanks. Anyway, about 8-10" deep is about all the old Ford will pull. No water in the tires or any other extra weight, so it just doesn't have enough traction.

  • @dinkusdorkus2737
    @dinkusdorkus27372 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure that implement has its uses but a tiller definitely does a better job, especially with breaking up the clumps of sod

  • @dwayneloftice2326
    @dwayneloftice23262 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a real "winner" for your soil composition/conditions. Might be able to get a better initial results by driving in one direction (back and forth) then crossing it at 90 degrees. But, strap in and hold on! I wouldn't hesitate to say that it did a terrific "sod-busting" job at least sitting here in my KZread seat!

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, agreed Dwayne! I'll try it on a larger section with room to criss cross later this spring!

  • @ICOWBOYIM
    @ICOWBOYIM2 жыл бұрын

    I prefer a moldboard plow in the fall to turn the sod and composted manure. A rototiller will only plug up with manure in the fall. Then I rototil in the spring to complete the field for planting. The rototiller does a great job then.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love tillers

  • @carrollsanders9376

    @carrollsanders9376

    2 жыл бұрын

    I prefer a 3 bottom lister over chisel plows, chisel plows work best in sandy soil and are designed to open up the soil for disking. A lister then light disking then box blade, then bring in the roto Tiller and you have the perfect seed bed, every 2 years I also subsoil to breakup the hard pan.

  • @Maj_Kasul
    @Maj_Kasul2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. We started a new food plot for this season. Turned it with a 3 bottom plow, broke it up with a few runs with a disk, then finished it with a tiller. Did this over several weeks to let the biomass die down. Hopefully we did enough and picked a good spot. Thanks for the videos. Good works 👍❤️🚜

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, thanks for watching!!

  • @matthewgroff433

    @matthewgroff433

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is exactly what I was thinking. Start with a 3 bottom plow, then hit it with a disc plow and then finish it with a tiller.

  • @michaeldunagan8268
    @michaeldunagan8268 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a rototiller guy myself; but the advocate a little bit for the chisel plow: I would argue; mr. Host of this video, what is your gasoline consumption with the rototiller versus me, the chisel plow? Operating costs such as the belts to run the tiller or the gears and the oil changes in the time sharpening the tiller tines. Also, which is harder and works the engine more, a rototiller running the PTO but relatively easy draw bar or very hard drawbar with no PTO? It all has to be putting a hopper for me to see what's up. I agree with you at the end of the video that that ground still looks too rough for the plant anything close to a row crop. With multiple passes required with the chisel plow, is the fuel-saving shot in the ass because you only need to make one pass with the roller tiller? These are questions I would like answered so I could form a better opinion.

  • @philmccole4309
    @philmccole43092 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, thank you for doing this comparison! It's disappointing (and expensive) to go out and buy an attachment and have it not work the way I'd hoped. Plus it busts the budget for another year and delays buying the right attachment. Your videos are really valuable!

  • @williamthomas9463
    @williamthomas94632 жыл бұрын

    The ground is too wet, the shanks are too far apart, the springs are too weak, the tractor is too small, the frame is too flimsy and it definitely needs coulters ahead of the shanks to slice through the trash BUT, other than that, it’s great!

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tell me how you really feel! 😂

  • @jimstruve3602

    @jimstruve3602

    2 жыл бұрын

    We all like to play with our tractors, but when it is wet, find something else to do! When it does dry out, good luck breaking up those clods you created.

  • @3sparewashers-lg3gf
    @3sparewashers-lg3gf2 ай бұрын

    I see one very, very valuable use for this. I lie in an area with a tremendous amount of shale to the extent that a digging bar is needed, not a shovel. For this reason, running a tiller feels like the rear end of the tractor is going to snap clean off because of all the bouncing every time the tiller hits a rock the size of a cutting board. Something like this, plow the field a couple times to pick up the rocks, grab the ones bigger than a shoe, and then disc. No damage done, no real significant disruption to soil structure. Handy little attachment!

  • @royj8549
    @royj8549 Жыл бұрын

    For implements like these, best hp to use is "drawbar hp". Subcompacts have trouble putting hp down due to their light weight and small tires. In Nebraska tractor tests, a Ford 8N can develop 20 - 21 drawbar hp. To do so, they ballasted the tractor to 4100 lbs, where it developed 2,750 lbs of drawbar pull in 1st gear. Highly doubt a 1-series can come close even in 4wd. Therefore actual drawbar hp may be closer to 10 - 15hp, a bit low for a 3-chisel plow.

  • @user-ft3oc7ks9z
    @user-ft3oc7ks9zАй бұрын

    I run a APP 5 shank 60”. It’s a 66”, 7 shank I dropped 2 shanks off. In the right conditions, it’s an unbelievable tool. I’m the wrong, it is less than ideal. Chisel plows, at least this size, hate thatch. Cut the field short (the field in this video was fine there), burn the vegetation with gly, let it be at a minimum of 2 weeks. That little chisel will turn your field deep, one pass. Your times were just too far apart, the vegetation was just a bit too “green”. I made the same mistake using it last year. About put it on marketplace. Spoke with a farmer who chisels large scale…he gave me those tips (above)…I would t trade the thing for the world now. You also needed the soil a little bit less moist. Don’t be discouraged, this is a great tool. Just need a few tweaks. I’d say 8hp per shank is a bit closer to the need though. Great tool.

  • @kevingebert4316
    @kevingebert43162 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a good implement to help dig in and help dry out wetter soil vs flipping soil over with a plow or tiller.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could be a good use for that, thanks for the tip!

  • @kevingebert4316

    @kevingebert4316

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thinking about it more, I could see using it for last year's food plot with turnips in also to get them loosened up while ground is drying and let deer have at them. I know Deer have been visiting my plots all winter and spring trying to get in at the roots. This implement would be much more aggressive and desirable for new turf and existing root plots I think. I know gardens and bare soils benefit with a landscape rake scratching that top inch or two of crust to help dry out for a good tilling any time of the year. Its got me thinking about adding another tool to the arsenal. Here in Central Wisc the ground is still pretty froze and wet yet compared to last year, I think we'll be a month behind.

  • @brianpritt4154
    @brianpritt41542 жыл бұрын

    I believe that verticle tillage is for reaching down to break up soil compaction. If you want the entire top turned,then a disc would work. Also, I have a JD subcompact tractor and use it almost daily around the farm but I never use it in the fields. The tires are so small that every bump is felt. Taller tires help that. I was impressed with the way your tractor preformed

  • @joshgreenfield62
    @joshgreenfield622 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing a video on one of these, I've contemplated one for awhile. Most people I've seen that plow use a disk after to make it finer like a tiller would.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, this isn't a finished bed ready for seed

  • @Allworldsk1
    @Allworldsk12 жыл бұрын

    Looks like it can definitely get the job done. But it's going to be a lot of work and a bumpy ride. The products look like they're getting better and better. Another great video.

  • @mercurymangarage6186
    @mercurymangarage61862 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video showing a ripper in use in virgin ground. Cheap alternative to a tiller but as the video shows, very rough and requires multiple passes. Might work better in dry ground. Love these learn as you go videos. Keep up the good work. Len from Kalamazoo Michigan.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Len! Yeah, I will have to try it again in the summer. The ground out there turns to concrete when it dries out. Not sure if that will be better or worse.

  • @fightingbear8537
    @fightingbear8537 Жыл бұрын

    I always run a subsoiler in my garden in order to break up the hard pan, then go over it with an all purpose plow or a tiller.

  • @robertmanley6102
    @robertmanley61022 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I recently bought a new John Deere 2025R based in part on your reviews. So far the tractor is better than I thought it would be. At 6' 3" 350 I'm about the size of your average bear and the John Deere is perfectly comfortable for me. I ordered a Speeco quick hitch from you and received it yesterday. It's a game changer. Thanks to your vids I didn't waste time or money on the other quick hitches. Be well, and thanks for the informative vids.

  • @aaronburford5701
    @aaronburford57015 ай бұрын

    Always enjoy your content and videos! Great information and details!

  • @BuyingTheFarm
    @BuyingTheFarm2 жыл бұрын

    Courtney, just a word of thanks for being an inspiration. After watching your channel over the past couple of years, I recently decided to purchase about 25 acres of land here in Upstate New York. The property was an old farm with varying terrain, a barn and a few outbuildings - all in HORRIBLE shape. The property called to me though, so I bought it. Seeing the wonderful community that has sprung up around your tractor projects, the use of your varying equipment and more recently your land-use efforts.... and realizing there is a wealth of talent out there who love to contribute thoughts and ideas to these types of projects, I started my own KZread channel to follow my efforts on the property. I'm hoping you will take a look (don't be too critical though, it's my first attempt at KZread), and hopefully some of your followers may also like to take a look and possibly contribute suggestions. THANKS for being an inspiration, Courtney. I only wish I had a budget for some big equipment which would make some of this work faster. It's all rentals for now. This is going to be a lot of work, but so much fun too. :-) -Dave

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it Dave, enjoy your journey, I just subbed :)

  • @BuyingTheFarm

    @BuyingTheFarm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoodWorksTractors You rock, Courtney! :-) Thanks for the support - I love your content!

  • @Harry-zz2oh

    @Harry-zz2oh

    2 жыл бұрын

    You might watch "Tractor Time with Tim" he has a small business helping his neighbors take care of stuff. He has a number of smaller tractors and he does a great job of explaining the ins and outs of using them.

  • @dawsoncanfield5386

    @dawsoncanfield5386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where in Upstate New York? I grew up near the Triple Cities. Lots of rocks on those hills there.

  • @johnpyle8027
    @johnpyle80272 жыл бұрын

    I think the 1025 would pull a 3 bottom plow. You might throw one of those in the mix. Have you ever seen the "plow days" where 20 or 30 small tractors show up with one bottom plows and turn a hundred acres? I'd like to do that with my 430 Diesel, but I don't know of any in Missouri. I like my compact and tiller. but I think it would be a blast to bring the old girl out. I restored it a year or two ago back to new, all options. $$$ and searched the planet for parts, but was a good time and its a little beast! lol

  • @michaelbreyne7067
    @michaelbreyne70672 жыл бұрын

    I know it is a long run. If you can take at slight angle after the first pass that may help. Enjoy watching you play around.

  • @cruiseshipforme4546
    @cruiseshipforme45462 жыл бұрын

    If I remember well enough from my youth growing up on the farm we used a turn plow to roll the dirt over and then a double set of disks with cultivators to make it a fine seed bed. Of course this was South Georgia black dirt with no clay. Think Vidalia onions. We use to pluck them out of the dirt and eat them like apples. Sweeter than some apples you buy today! Love your work here! Oh, btw, our tractors were way bigger than yours! 🤪

  • @BigCool95
    @BigCool95 Жыл бұрын

    it would probably be the ticket to use this or a subsoiler first to break up the hard ground, then go over with the tiller. i dont believe that one replaces the other in this situation, rather they work together

  • @radamson1
    @radamson1 Жыл бұрын

    You need to use a disk behind a plow. Whether a chisel plow or a turning plow. A plow is used to break ground and a disk to level and make a seed bed. A tiller does both at the same time, just not as deep as a plow, but finer than a disk.

  • @1563smb
    @1563smb2 жыл бұрын

    My experience is those work really good with a disc harrow and a drag ,it's definitely not a finishing tool in my opinion. Still awesome video looking forward to the next one. I don't have a tiller yet but you'll be hearing from me when I do get one 😁

  • @kengoldbeck6363
    @kengoldbeck63632 жыл бұрын

    I think it would be nice if you had 2 additional rippers that could rotate out of the way for the fist pass and then down into place for subsequent passes after the sod is busted. I believe at that point you would have sufficient HP and could keep from tracking in the same grooves. Product improvement??

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser89982 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a good tool to break up softer soils down to depth. I like kevin's idea to use to help drainage.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, definitely good for deeper depths, drainage is a good benefit!

  • @DavidRobinson-mx6cl
    @DavidRobinson-mx6cl2 жыл бұрын

    Try criss cross method , ruffer ride. But it works !!!!!

  • @metalmanbradley
    @metalmanbradley2 жыл бұрын

    I have an old all purpose plow 6' wide with 9 rippers and pull it just fine with a 2wd 32hp fordson dexta. Keep up the good work. Would still like to see a video on how one of your manual off set flail mowers fit on an older ford tractor

  • @wbsims2996
    @wbsims2996 Жыл бұрын

    The small size of the tires and the short wheelbase of the 1025 is a handicap when plowing, especially on rough or previously plowed ground. I like subcompacts for lots of uses but imo they are best used with a small tiller on small plots such as gardens. A great machine for market gardening. Also the all purpose plow is not a finishing implement, it is for breaking up hard soil and improving water penetration and drainange. Should be followed up by a disc or roto tiller before planting.

  • @JerrelBaker-vo8xv
    @JerrelBaker-vo8xv8 ай бұрын

    It would be great for making rows after with tiller or breaking plow and great for keeping rows clean.

  • @dawsoncanfield5386
    @dawsoncanfield53862 жыл бұрын

    To a lot of us, plowing means using a moldboard plow to turn the ground over and bury what is on top. Then, if it is sod, or grass, a set of disc harrows to break it up. Makes a better mix of biomass and dirt.

  • @caryholt54
    @caryholt542 жыл бұрын

    It appears to be a nice little ripper for people that have a need for that. Ground did look a little wet. Were you using 4wd at the beginning? Normally you would take a 2nd pass at a different angle but not sure how rough that would be using the little 1025. I would then probably follow this up with a small disc or cultivator or both.

  • @tokencivilian8507
    @tokencivilian85072 жыл бұрын

    This looks a lot like the results I see over on "How Farms Work" when they're running their chisel plow across their fields. Those shanks and the curls of soil they're throwing up are a dead ringer for the ones and the results on and from their 9 (?) shank. Of course, they're tilling farm fields, not breaking sod. Their chisel plow also has a row or two of disks at the back that helps to break up clods and smooth things out to prep the seed bed. To hear them talk about it, they chisel plow to break up compaction of the soil and VT / disk only if they only need to prep a seed bed.

  • @Harry-zz2oh

    @Harry-zz2oh

    2 жыл бұрын

    My neighbor deep chisels his fields before he uses a disc plow. His chisels are about 36" long so he really breaks up the soil compaction. After he discs the ground with a roller of some kind on the backend, he'll level the entire field so when he flood irrigates the field he won't have any high spots left unwatered.

  • @mtozzy11
    @mtozzy112 жыл бұрын

    Easiest way to plow up a field/area with a multi plow/chisel plow is plow on the diagonal to your first pass. Will stop the tynes wanting to pull back into the previous pass. Also they are generally used prior to discing or rototilling

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, but only 16' wide didn't allow for room to angle without a major effort. Thanks Michael!

  • @mtozzy11

    @mtozzy11

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoodWorksTractors yeah it wasn't an easy job TBH. Surprised at the 1025r did the job quite easily

  • @markellyfarm
    @markellyfarm2 жыл бұрын

    For virgin ground i always start with a plow and then till. After that I subsoil the rows if row croping. I then lay drip tape in the sub soiler groove and plant next to it.

  • @Frontpagefab
    @Frontpagefab2 жыл бұрын

    I think I would have used a 2 bottom plow to roll that sod, then went back with a disk or field cultivator instead of that chisel plow.

  • @capnjan9835
    @capnjan98352 жыл бұрын

    Always enjoy your videos.

  • @tommybounds3220
    @tommybounds32202 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video

  • @joelnickerson6739
    @joelnickerson67392 жыл бұрын

    I have to agree with you that even though a tiller would be more expensive it's the way to go. You might want more aggressive tires too.

  • @joshuapreusser2265
    @joshuapreusser22652 жыл бұрын

    May want to try decreasing working depth and increasing speed and possibly waiting for the ground to be a bit drier (but not completely dried out either) to get better results with the chisel plow. Personally I use a moldboard plow and follow that up with a disk harrow to break up the larger clods and how well each works can vary quite a bit on soil moisture levels and the working speed I can maintain. Haven't really used a tiller much since from my understanding breaking the soil/dirt into too fine (or too uniform of size) of particles can also cause problems or at least in the finer/clay-rich soils - which is I have to deal with so have a mix of clod sizes can be potentially be more helpful even it it doesn't look as clean/neat.

  • @jqwwqj6365
    @jqwwqj63652 жыл бұрын

    rip the rows and than rip over the rows perpedicular to the rows. just a suggestion. like your videos. great work

  • @jimbennett1519
    @jimbennett15192 жыл бұрын

    Man patience is a virtue and you probably should have waited a couple days for that field to dry a bit more and the results probably would have been a little differento

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    This field won't dry for months and then it will become concrete :)

  • @bigdwg8637
    @bigdwg86372 жыл бұрын

    Whether I am right or wrong I don't know, but as I grew up, I was always told use the right tool for the right job. The Plow you are using is really more for digging deep and aerating the soil. Pulling the compacted dirt from way down deep. You would use a disc type plow for making furrows or rows for planting. The tiller is made for braking up the soil and allowing for the opportunity to get the weeds out of the way and also aerating the soil, but not as deep as the first plow.

  • @marvindiamonjr.9631
    @marvindiamonjr.96312 жыл бұрын

    A little weight on the front end helps keep the front tires producing traction, too. Sometimes the resistance on the three point can pull hard enough to take some weight off of the front end causing some loss of traction.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @karvtek
    @karvtek2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 7 tooth cultivator I used to use with my ATV. It worked pretty well but now I have tractor and tiller. I thought one day I may modify the cultivator and build a 3pt. It worked the ATV pretty hard. Tiller still wins.

  • @eastkyboy5619
    @eastkyboy56192 жыл бұрын

    That’s good to use to break up the ground before tilling. I’m sure you will see a difference tilling this ground verses unplowed ground.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Time will tell, thanks for watching!

  • @raptor3a102
    @raptor3a1022 жыл бұрын

    The dirt dog would work a lot better in a more square field. Chisel plows work best if you can make your second pass at an angle to the first pass. We generally make our first pass at 30 degrees to the final rows we want to plant at.

  • @russbowman6801
    @russbowman68012 жыл бұрын

    A good used tractor (pre mid '80.s JD, Ford, MF) with 50 hp, ballast in the tires, and a two or three bottom plow using the same financial investment would tear that field up fast, one pass, 14-18 inches deep, put more weeds below the ground, and leave the field ready for disc harrowing or rototilling.

  • @misterb1080
    @misterb10802 жыл бұрын

    It needs to be followed up with a disc. Then you would get the tilled look. That’s old school farming. Plowing then discing.

  • @CW1116
    @CW11162 жыл бұрын

    Are there extra holes in order to install 5 "plows"? That would help in not having to make so many passes. I realize that the JD you were using might not have the power (or traction with those turf tires) but I have an L3901 with industrial tires and 4-WD so I should be able to pull 5 bottoms.

  • @georgewhite5781
    @georgewhite57812 жыл бұрын

    i have done this before and found going parallel to the first pass works good

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Parallel or perpenticular?

  • @georgewhite5781

    @georgewhite5781

    2 жыл бұрын

    perpendicular or a x pattern sorry

  • @tcmits3699
    @tcmits3699 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent camera work. Watching from above it looked like if you had the three tines or shanks mounted on front loader and pulling a disc would be a nice set-up. It just looked like it was getting a little bumpy. Good luck, ps what drone and camera was used? Thanks 👍

  • @1gleamor1
    @1gleamor12 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I use a 2 bottom plow (Craigslist ftw) then I come back with a JD 655 tiller for a nice seedbed. I did some testing and math which with my JD 4044M used less overall fuel as well as I used less seed to achieve great results

  • @rockysmith5246
    @rockysmith52462 жыл бұрын

    In that ground I would use a mold board turning plow I enjoy your videos

  • @bobcole9274
    @bobcole92742 жыл бұрын

    We would call that a ripper with straight shanks or cultivator if you put on shovels. use the ripper to break up hard/rooted ground before moldboard or for moisture penetration.

  • @Rcol4427
    @Rcol4427 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not a big fan of plowing with the homeowner size machines. I have 60 HP tractor with 49 PTO HP and I am thinking of the 7 shank but only for food plots. You only need to turn the top few inches. That 21 HP is like the same size motor as my snow blower!😝It looks like your struggling as you start to rut the ground. Need a larger tractor. Try more shanks with that Kubota from your last video and i'm sure there will be a world of difference. These plows are great for turning in lime when you don't want to take the time with a rototiller. I always use my tiller towards the end for that smooth seed bed after I lime in the earlier months and I'm ready to spread some seed.

  • @cbswm1957yaho
    @cbswm1957yaho Жыл бұрын

    Try using a disc, it will work better then the chisel plow.

  • @KateHikes1933
    @KateHikes19332 жыл бұрын

    I like the music and slow-mo

  • @timheyboer4786
    @timheyboer47862 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a kid with his new toy. I think you would have better results if you let the ground dry before you play. This tool is on my "want list", don't know if I need it, but still want one.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, definitely! The ground out here is hard as a rock when it dries out. Not sure if that will be better or worse, but only one way to find out!

  • @justinsimmons2715
    @justinsimmons27152 жыл бұрын

    if you were to take the tiller to it first, or some sort of implement to break up the sod, then that tool would work really well. it would shatter the soil deep and allow for maximum root growth. the problem is all the sod on top rolls out in clods due to the grass roots. a moldboard plow is about all youd be able to get across that without disking or tilling it first.

  • @jeffkimble8857
    @jeffkimble88572 жыл бұрын

    We used plows like this after the land had been traditionally plowed and disked. Basically using it for semi deep ripping or subsoiling. I have been looking for one for my 1025r as the 10 shank I have in my old equipment is a bit big 😂

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, 10 shank might be a tad large for the 1025r!

  • @larryhasard3989

    @larryhasard3989

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should be able to remove/unbolt shanks from your older model field cultivator to make it able to be pulled by your 1025r. Remove the outside shank on each side, to keep the pulling resistance even. Test it, and if it is too much for the tractor, drop 2 more, and try again. Mine has sets of holes acfoss the full width to allow me to reduce spacing between shanks too. The tool is able to be customized.

  • @jeffkimble8857

    @jeffkimble8857

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@larryhasard3989 it’s possible to remove the shanks but the 10+ foot width of the frame and the fact it’s a category 3 - 3 point hitch precludes the 1025 as an option. I made the comment in jest.

  • @larryhasard3989

    @larryhasard3989

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have the 9 shank, Cat 1, 84 inch wide version of this field cultivator and it only weighs about 500 lbs.. The commentor has a 10 ft, Cat 3 ripper. Thats a much heavier implement, and way too big for the 1025R.

  • @jeffkimble8857

    @jeffkimble8857

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Kevin Too wide, too heavy and too tall as well. The 1025r rockshaft arms don’t have enough clearance to lift the implement. It’s amazing how many folks on here can’t discern comments made in jest. 😀

  • @johnhamilton3987
    @johnhamilton39872 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure this is mainly for increasing drainage and getting in and breaking up the ground. Then probably sets ya up to change implementations and till

  • @Biggestfoot10209
    @Biggestfoot102092 жыл бұрын

    Is there a mold board plow available for a 1025r or a2025r. I’d really like an answer. Thank you

  • @TheLloyz
    @TheLloyz2 жыл бұрын

    I have allot of stumps and would love to till the ground. Any tips or tricks? Can I till the ground and try to dodge these stumps. I want to smoothe the earth some and eventually establish pastures not row crops. I feel like I would bend or break something. My box blade sacrifices are already bent up.

  • @fedup3582
    @fedup3582 Жыл бұрын

    If you work it up good shallow first, then go back a week later and work it deep, it won't be so lumpy and soddy and will break up better.

  • @larryhasard3989
    @larryhasard39892 жыл бұрын

    Field cultivators are not designed to produce a seed bed ready for planting, from a field with eastablished sod, even with multiple passes, each at an angle to your prior passes. I make passes at 30, 45, 60 and 90 degrees to my first pass, both to the right and left, when breaking new ground. Its a quick way to cover a big area. It will certainly break up the soil and sod, but the spacing between the shanks is too great to bust up the clumps. Needs follow up disking, likely several passes. On previously planted areas I use an X pattern, of 2 crossing passes. Field cultivators may be your only option for "plowing new ground" with a compact tractor, because the wheel spacing of compact tractors do not necessarily coordinate with moldboard plows. My NH 45 hp Boomer doesnt. Old row crop tractors had adjustable wheel spacings, to do this, new tractors dont. I would drive on top of every just plowed row, while plowing the next row. Compact tractors need towed plows, like the ones you see in vintage tractor plowing day videos, that can be offset. You should compare how deep the soil is actually broken up by each implement, after each pass. Ive never seen that reported anywhere, and that would be useful information The field cultivator can reach much deeper than a rototiller, breaking through deeper compacted soil layers, pulling up deeper roots, and improving water infiltration into the soil. The field cultivator can also break up rocky soil that you cant roto till. Think of the field cultivator as replacing the back breaking 4 tine digging fork, used when making a small garden or a flower bed. You cant make a new seedbed with that tool in an established grassed area, with just once over turning. Every gardening book tells you to remove the sod, before digging to prepare your seed bed, just for this reason. Once the sod is gone, and the soil dry enough, its much easier digging.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct, you need to run a tiller, disc, cultivator, etc over it afterwards. Not wide enough to criss cross here. Will do so on the next area which will be more square-ish

  • @jimmysimpson4542
    @jimmysimpson45422 жыл бұрын

    Courtney, I believe you would have had an easier time with a mold board or bottom plow. You were ripping, a slightly different function than plowing. Plowing, you would have accomplished that in one pass. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @bill29456
    @bill294562 жыл бұрын

    Ive never used a plow but NOT impressed. I till gardens for a side job, and if i left a plot looking like that, I don't think id get paid. Now I think a good comparison would be between a plow and disc. That would be a better match up in my opinion. Still looks kind of rough to run say a corn planter/seeder thru. Good video topic, i love seeing comparisons between different equipment.

  • @grattonland
    @grattonland2 жыл бұрын

    Just an idea, no clue if that would work, but what about criss-crossing. Do the whole field up and down, then again left and right? Or would you spin fighting the ruts?

  • @JerrelBaker-vo8xv
    @JerrelBaker-vo8xv8 ай бұрын

    What kind of blade do you have on front. Looks like it can take out saplings out.

  • @johnburk9157
    @johnburk91572 жыл бұрын

    Looks like the tiller will win hands down

  • @jonathanosborne1596
    @jonathanosborne15962 жыл бұрын

    I think you need a small 4-ft cultivator plow that looks more like a ripper type thing than a plow just my opinion like your channel have a good day

  • @spendingtimeinpapasbarn.1995
    @spendingtimeinpapasbarn.19952 жыл бұрын

    Courtney why didn’t you try a turning plow? It would have done a better job, smoother ride, and easier on the tractor. You then could use a tiller or disc to finish it out.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well this was called an All Purpose Plow. So, I figured I'd give it a shot! Don't know unless you try!

  • @natslo26
    @natslo26 Жыл бұрын

    Wrong tool for virgin ground. Till then use cultivater for making rows. Then remove middle tine (after plating crop) to cultivate weeds beside crop.

  • @curtis026
    @curtis0262 жыл бұрын

    Why is it that moldboard plows for these subcompact tractors aren’t more prevalent? They are way cheaper than a tiller. Even though I have a beast of a tiller for my 1025, the Frontier 3049, and I love it, I would still love to have a moldboard plow. The cat 0 Brinley’s were really popular for all the garden tractors of the past, and I love seeing them in action. If nothing else, just for good old memories sake. Even most of those garden tractors had the option to mount a tiller, and many did, but many had plows too. Was it just a cost thing or is it because of the way farming has changed over the last two decades? I’d love to hear someone else’s input, especially if you have and use a traditional moldboard plow.

  • @rharrell1
    @rharrell12 жыл бұрын

    Most farmers now use no till as plowing destroys the soils structure plus it turns up weed seeds. If you want to make a garden area just layer the soil with some type of organic matter like leaves, rotted manure compost, or wood chips then just add to it each year. The idea is to build on the top layer of soil similar to what is found in a forest. This is an organic way to farm as each year there will be less weed issues no chemicals are needed. For fertilizer check out making your own with the Jadam method. Have an organic farm and have not used any plows or rotavators in years they are just sitting in storage. Just saying done the plowing thing and found a better and more efficient way which uses less fuel, time, and better for the soil and environment.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not sure I would say most, but it is definitely growing...that and minimum till. However, for small tractor owners, no till drills are an extremely expensive tool. Lightly working the top 2-3" works well for me. However, if it's a heavily compacted area, then deeper tillage may be required to loosen the soil.

  • @ICOWBOYIM

    @ICOWBOYIM

    2 жыл бұрын

    No-till requires pesticides and herbicides! My farm is organic so I moldboard plow in the fall, rototil in the spring then cultivate in the summer with no chemical top spraying.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good point!

  • @JDubbsadventure
    @JDubbsadventure2 жыл бұрын

    I like plows. Disc and tillers… tillers do a lot better of a job….I’m sure there’s a place for this tool

  • @alexlindekugel8727
    @alexlindekugel8727 Жыл бұрын

    looks like its good for breaking the sode but tilling or a plow would have to be fallowed.

  • @AJmx2702001
    @AJmx27020012 жыл бұрын

    Tillage 101 lol breaking sod will take multi passes and when going over something like you did you should start on a different swath or bit of angle so that way your tracks are not in the same place . Best thing for that sod now is to let it air out and get some sun to dry on the clumps of sod . I would even go over again with that ripper once its dried out good . Best way i break sod is to use a no till program and just knock down the sod with fall application of Roundup before frost . That ripper tool would work great in dirt thats been rotated and would do wonders where you rototill a lot since tillers will create a compaction layer .

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Different angle would have been great if it were more than 16' wide. It got tilled, will be shown in the next video. No drying out this time of year. Rain, rain, and more rain and then it will not rain and turn to concrete :) This field sat idle for over 10 years, previous owner thinks it may have been closer to 20 years. Not sure how compacted it is, but drainage is poor.

  • @TBNK007
    @TBNK007 Жыл бұрын

    Wonder if this and second pass with discs would be perfect?

  • @fedup3582
    @fedup3582 Жыл бұрын

    Also, work it at an angle the second time.

  • @rogerhecker4111
    @rogerhecker41112 жыл бұрын

    Farmers usually do that type of tillage in the fall never in the spring

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is the downside of me doing it right now?

  • @jamespb78
    @jamespb782 жыл бұрын

    Hi, wondering what the name of the music is that starts at 2 min 24 sec please? Love it!

  • @darrensnider6084
    @darrensnider60842 жыл бұрын

    That thing might be better for weeds in a garden!

  • @loganyoutube4818
    @loganyoutube48182 жыл бұрын

    let some air out of the tires, put some weight on the plow and on the loader and it would do a much better job...a little faster ground speed too

  • @simpleman4196
    @simpleman41962 жыл бұрын

    That implement is not designed to be a final seed bed preparation tool after you run it over with that you would want to go over it with a disc and break everything up and level it out a little bit better. I'm not sure if you could pull it but that would be better with two more rippers on it for the size it is that way there you wouldn't have to make so many passes. Is the spring tension adjustable on those seems to me the springs are a little weak.

  • @carrollsanders9376
    @carrollsanders93762 жыл бұрын

    Still prefer a Lister over a chisel plows in clay soils.

  • @patrickcorbett8361
    @patrickcorbett83612 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2 bottom conventional that I prefer over the ' Tri - Tined ' version , and I have a tiller I prefer over them both ! pc

  • @PatrickDKing
    @PatrickDKing2 жыл бұрын

    I'll give dozers the win for rippers.

  • @propellerheadnj
    @propellerheadnj2 жыл бұрын

    That tractor canopy looks an awful lot like one of my neighbors 4 septic system covers.

  • @davidfisher549
    @davidfisher5492 жыл бұрын

    the spring tooth plow does not do well in a sod type of area, never will. Going over it several times will help, but it will always be pretty rough and never become a good seed bed by itself. However, it is an excellent tool when used on previously tilled ground like last year's garden.

  • @mrmudcatslim1004
    @mrmudcatslim10042 жыл бұрын

    How long will the rows be? Seems like a good ways. Just curious.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    These are roughly 450 ft long, only 16 ft wide. Planting a screen this spring

  • @mrmichaeltscott
    @mrmichaeltscott2 жыл бұрын

    Air shim! Stealing that

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha, it's a pretty nice little upgrade!

  • @mrmichaeltscott

    @mrmichaeltscott

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoodWorksTractors samwich it in kydex and patent that!

  • @simpleman4196
    @simpleman41962 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping to replace my mole board plow with one of these but it just doesn't work as good as a real chisel plow.

  • @williamthomas9463
    @williamthomas94632 жыл бұрын

    And another thing, it’s NOT meant to replace a tiller but if it went deeper, it would be great to use in front of the a tiller to help avoid creating a hardpan which a tiller does as the tines slide across the soil.

  • @GoodWorksTractors

    @GoodWorksTractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct, you'd need to disc or cultivate after plowing. It doesn't leave a prepped seedbed. I've never noticed any compaction or germination issues caused by the skid runners on my tillers.