Should You Get A BMW M235i or M240i?

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When deciding whether or not to purchase an M235i or an M240i, there are many factors to consider. In this video I discuss many things to consider when looking at either car. To be clear, both of these little coupes are wonderful driving machines. Beautiful to look at, fast, nimble, and all around great for daily driving/track use.
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  • @SimplyCarThings
    @SimplyCarThings5 жыл бұрын

    655RWHP B58 M240i (NO Meth NO PI) www.bimmerboost.com/content.php?10211-BigBoost-increases-their-B58-output-world-record-to-655-rwhp-Most-powerful-F22-M240i

  • @mcintosh.motors

    @mcintosh.motors

    5 жыл бұрын

    Simply Car Things Damn I was thinking about buying a 2011 E90 N55 but starting to consider the B58 now..

  • @MultiSuperUnicorn
    @MultiSuperUnicorn2 жыл бұрын

    "start to see M240is creeping down in price" oof, if only we knew that $25k for a 235i with 40k miles in 2019 was a great deal by 2021 standards.

  • @MattiMonte

    @MattiMonte

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts. Looking at either for myself and I can't get over how much the prices went up over the last few years.

  • @ruffrydder879

    @ruffrydder879

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m looking for a used 2019 M240i and the market is insanely high for used cars right now. I might wait it out.

  • @dwreus81

    @dwreus81

    2 жыл бұрын

    $32k for a 2015 235i with 37k miles today. Yeah could’ve made some money on these cars nowadays

  • @taylor6735

    @taylor6735

    Жыл бұрын

    I paid 33 for a 230i 2019…. 24k miles.

  • @taylor6735

    @taylor6735

    Жыл бұрын

    And I love it, it’s not as fast as the 235 or 240 but it’s still quick asf

  • @TK-gd9td
    @TK-gd9td5 жыл бұрын

    was literally debating this decision, and you're the only one with a video about this comparison! ty!

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    youre very welcome man! glad it was helpful

  • @Noname-od5zy

    @Noname-od5zy

    5 жыл бұрын

    T K which one did you get

  • @ChipZilla69

    @ChipZilla69

    4 жыл бұрын

    I owned an m235i and now have an m240i. You will be happy with either one but i do love my m240i. Stay away from the 220 m235i units you want a glorified mini cooper works.

  • @rsparth

    @rsparth

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChipZilla69 what do you mean by that last statement?

  • @ChipZilla69

    @ChipZilla69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rsparth they changed the chassis and you can only get a 2 little turbo on the got model and not the 3lt 6 cylinder b58 engine. It's also gone 4 wheel drive

  • @tylereg4764
    @tylereg47642 жыл бұрын

    Was just cruising with either an m235i or an m240i and gotta say one of the best sounding cars ever. 😍 and looks amazing too. Definitely would be on my list if I were to get a nicer car later in life

  • @stevealexander6928
    @stevealexander69285 жыл бұрын

    Dervtech in the UK can tune remotely or via OBD, on a stage 1 remap the M240i can give 440bhp with all standard hardware.

  • @davidstuart4915
    @davidstuart49155 жыл бұрын

    excellent delivery - all facts at your fingertips and seamlessly linked together whilst driving and at a speed and clarity easily absorbed :)

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    david stuart thank you so much man! That’s very kind of you to say that, glad you enjoyed the vid!

  • @ztotheu2974
    @ztotheu29745 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your vids man. I have been researching cars for about a year now. I was convinced I wanted a new VW golf or perhaps an audi a4 or s3. I've owned Honda products over the past 18 years. 2 Integra's GSRs. Civic Si. RSX-S (wrecked). ILX. I meticulously maintain my cars and love to drive. Everyone told me to look into BMW. I thought "they're nice but overpriced". I saw a blue m240i last summer and was locked in. Your videos along with a handful of others have been helping me maintain my sanity that this is the perfect car and my search needed to get deeper. I looked around new/used for months. I'm in KC. Finding one on a dealership's lot was tedious. They had a ton of 230is. I knew I needed that v6 coming from a long line of underpowered 4 cyclinder cars. The prices were crazy too. We're talking close to 50k for a fully loaded 230i xdrive. 230 not 235i or 240. KC dealers simply know that they can sell the few cars they stock to the Kansas city elite over the course of the year. Snooty dealers that don't inspire love for the brand. They know what's hot in the lineup (M3/M4, 340, 440, m235/240) but they don't have any of those cars even to test drive. I kept looking cross country and found one in Wichita. I feel like a lucky man as I signed a low mileage lease for my new 2019 m240i xdrive - mineral gray. Less than 47k all in. Cannot believe how much superior this car is to what I had before. Maybe the dealer was right? The 230i should be enough power for anyone on the road. This inline 6 however is a demon on the road. I never felt so confident. It's much faster than I thought and seems much faster than 95% of traffic on my commute any given day. You can pass anything at will in this car. There is no such thing as 45mph in this car. You know no one can mess with you in the car as you can just blow by them and watch them vanish in the ether. I'm almost hesitant to drive in sports plus mode as the demon is unleashed further and seems to demand twice the gas. My stomach got quesy the first few times I floored it to "see of KZread was right about the acceleration" (yes you guys were). It's hard to explain the joy of driving a car this fast to others that haven't experienced it. The tech is fantastic as well. The digital readout on the display is badass as well. I'm looking for excuses to take it out and rev it up. I'm wanting my friends and family to drive it to let me know it's not an illusion that it's lighting fast. I'm 6 days in to ownership and have my first mod. I did puddle lights that display "M" on the ground when the door opens. Actually pretty stock looking. My only wish is that I could hear the engine more. I'm just starting to look into that but I'm still a novice with car repair etc. Looking forward to watching you mod that gorgeous blue 235!

  • @whynotagain3639

    @whynotagain3639

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't already got it wack the M-Sport Exhaust on, then just drive everywhere with the window slightly open, the barble and pops are awesome.... That's what I do, you'll never get bored until the winter when you have to drive with the windows shut. Lol

  • @paulpateman3968
    @paulpateman39685 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliant video talking a lot of sense as you say it comes down to power both cars are awesome

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks Paul! Appreciate your input as always

  • @hitandrun117
    @hitandrun1175 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos man. That m235i is awesome, definitely would want one after college

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    hitandrun117 thank you man! yea its a really fun car!

  • @sensisimon
    @sensisimon3 жыл бұрын

    I live in the Welsh countryside. Surprised the US have heard of Wales! Good video btw

  • @carlosoliva4592
    @carlosoliva45925 жыл бұрын

    all your videos are good, very good comments. I bought my first BMW 335i sport line N55 engine for my son and I had no problem (one year ago). In November I bought an M235i for myself and so far I have not had any problems.

  • @peteb1854
    @peteb18545 жыл бұрын

    Nice video mate...really enjoyed it. haven't been on your channel for a long time But I have to say I will probably be back again soon. You seem more comfortable in your own skin now as compared with some of the early stuff you did when you had the 335i. As for your choice of car, I really like how you're thinking. These are some of cars that are helping BMW maintain it's mojo IMO. Smaller, lighter cars designed for driving orientated enthusiasts while retaining decent practicality...that magic formula that BMW have done so well in the past. That's not to say that the bigger brutes aren't awesome machines (by all accounts they are pretty amazing) but I'm really glad that BMW didn't just abandon this segment of the market. The M legends (E46 M3 for example) are getting pretty long in the tooth now and it's getting harder to find one (here where I live anyway...I've been looking) without buying a beaten up one that will become a project car. Hard to get much more performance out of them too without some serious mods. So, it seems to me that the current performance 2 series cars, obviously the M2 but also the 235i and 240i are worthy successors to spot in the used car market that has been occupied by the older M3 cars. Smaller and lighter. It's so often a recipe for fun.

  • @Nocturnal_Services
    @Nocturnal_Services5 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad you got an M235i right when I'm in the market for one too, timing couldn't have been better.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    yessir! you wont regret getting one!

  • @Noname-od5zy

    @Noname-od5zy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Manny M did you get the m235i ? I’m confused between the two , I was about to get the m240i but then I liked the sound of the 235i , which one do you recommend is there a massive difference in power ?

  • @BrianJohnson-kh7mg
    @BrianJohnson-kh7mg5 жыл бұрын

    I have an m240i in the LA area, always looking for people to drive with! Congrats on the car!

  • @jackdevault1026

    @jackdevault1026

    5 жыл бұрын

    i have a 16 m235 and am in LA, hmu bro im always down to cruise PCH

  • @BMWE90HQ
    @BMWE90HQ5 жыл бұрын

    That blue paint is so nice bro!

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @brettkrehling8738
    @brettkrehling87385 жыл бұрын

    Cant wait to see the potential of the b58

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    me too bro!

  • @toms_garage
    @toms_garage5 жыл бұрын

    Cool video, I would be happy with either tbh :) Probs 240i if leasing and m235i if buying outright :)

  • @yashk3904
    @yashk39045 жыл бұрын

    MHD is also developing a flasher app for the B58 engine as well

  • @hobgoblin9308
    @hobgoblin93085 жыл бұрын

    So glad you know Wales!

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Mapps ive always wanted to visit! One day in the near future when money isnt as much of an issue 🙏🏼

  • @sam.s.winslow
    @sam.s.winslow5 жыл бұрын

    Great video man! Thank you for sharing

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    no problem man! Thank you!

  • @iMixBass
    @iMixBass5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been watching you for awhile but havent for the past 2 months. I just bought my 2015 m235i on december 22nd. That saying is really true, once you buy a car, you start seeing it around alot more hahahah

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    that's crazy haha! whats even crazier is you bought your m235i on my birthday lol!

  • @owenlee9474

    @owenlee9474

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have you enjoyed your car? I'm getting one this week. Excited

  • @iMixBass

    @iMixBass

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@owenlee9474 the car has been really reliable and its a hell of a daily lol. Hope you enjoy it!

  • @owenlee9474

    @owenlee9474

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@iMixBass Had it now for 5 days. Best purchase of my life 🥳 what a beast!!!

  • @sf222
    @sf2225 жыл бұрын

    Both are cars I'm considering; your review was very helpful.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    i'm glad to hear that! You can't go wrong with either one.

  • @Noname-od5zy

    @Noname-od5zy

    5 жыл бұрын

    S F which one did you get

  • @sf222

    @sf222

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Noname-od5zy I got the M240i! Love it. My only complaint is the roads in Minnesota are often in bad shape and the stock suspension can bounce you around like a pogo-stick. :-) Still, love the car.

  • @ClubMicrobio

    @ClubMicrobio

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sf222 that's why you should have order the adaptative springers as I've just did jejejeje

  • @swrdmnl1071
    @swrdmnl10713 жыл бұрын

    2017 M240 with Noelle Tune which keeps the warranty - 440 hp: absolutely kills it at the track (Chuckwalla, Streets of Willow, Button Willow). Amazing handling with solid brakes make it a complete joy to drive. Quite a sleeper and worth every penny.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice man! I recently took my M4 out to Big Willow & Chuckwalla, such a blast

  • @swrdmnl1071

    @swrdmnl1071

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SimplyCarThings I'm thinking of running Big Willow, but that's a really high-speed track. Perfect for the M4. Good luck out there!

  • @deaconstevej1
    @deaconstevej15 жыл бұрын

    It really comes down to whether you want to feel a bit more power, or you want to go warp 7! Just depends on the person! Neither is wrong! Personally, I'm not Interested in going 175mph, but tapping into the potential of my car is fun! I'll leave the Space Shuttle on the launch pad! Lol

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    couldn't agree more!

  • @alanmusa7143

    @alanmusa7143

    Жыл бұрын

    What’s warp 7?

  • @twiggy27111976
    @twiggy271119765 жыл бұрын

    I've got an M140i. If I were to modify it, the first thing would be an LSD, otherwise you're just going to spin any extra power away in rubber and smoke and then end up in a ditch. I absolutely love it though, proper hooligan car when you want it to be, then a sensible family hatchback with a decent boot (trunk for my American cousins) and fold down rear seats when you want to be sensible and go food (grocery) shopping.

  • @MrScholarly
    @MrScholarly5 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, did you lower your M2?

  • @milanrotar8176
    @milanrotar81765 жыл бұрын

    Estoril blue metallic is really a nice color!

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    it really is, i love it!

  • @cammgt3rs370
    @cammgt3rs370Ай бұрын

    2016 M235I with intercooler, chargepipe, 3.5 bar map sensors upgrade both, downpipe, tune and cut stock intake box wider or aftermarket intake and you will have a heck of a car. Most may disagree bit the 3.5 bar map sensors made a huge difference even without an upgraded turbo.

  • @papercut1987
    @papercut19873 жыл бұрын

    Few years have passed. I think B58's improved cooling has kinda proven to be effective and an efficient engine, alone with the ZF8 autobox (dct is also just fine). Currently own a 128 stick, about to sell it cuz family is growing. But I'm definitely coming back for a M240 in a few years. 1/2 series are such a fun car to drive and easy own. Great review as always~

  • @MCorrigan

    @MCorrigan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Na blad. 5 and 6 series all the way star. Ya get me don?!

  • @hurpaderpp

    @hurpaderpp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MCorrigan a pedophobe would say that

  • @ephesians2v.8watchingforye57
    @ephesians2v.8watchingforye573 жыл бұрын

    I have the 2018 M240Xi it is a fun car to drive.

  • @devengreen5823
    @devengreen58235 жыл бұрын

    Speed tech stage 3 turbo for n55 - Vehicle configuration: 2014 335i. Speedtech Stage 3 Turbo. Speedtech Port Injection. Stock intercooler/airbox/airbox tube/air filter/exhaust. - Boost set to 18psi at 3000rpm ramp to 25psi at 6000rpm - 628whp, 539wtq - Spool-up by 3000rpm - Over 500 ft*lbs between 3800 to 6500rpm, over 450 ft*lbs between 3000 to 7000 rpm, providing great street performance. Keeping stock reliability and drivability

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Deven Green that is AWESOME, are you in CA? We should link up for a video

  • @crazylunitic1

    @crazylunitic1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Deven Green i have the same year/car and am looking to get in the 600whp club i was looking at the speedtech kit but also the bigboost kit. How are you liking the speedtech kit and how much did it cost in total to be 600whp

  • @mcintosh.motors

    @mcintosh.motors

    5 жыл бұрын

    that’s sick!! i’m looking to get an E90 N55 with power goals at around 500hp so hearing that there are people pushing that wayyy more is awesome :)

  • @VictorEstrada

    @VictorEstrada

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bro you should at least upgrade your intercooler and charge pipes. Not sure about the down pipe as no one has really proven the stock one to be an issue with higher pressure, but might as well play it say with a high flow DP.

  • @Ajdjdncjekskf

    @Ajdjdncjekskf

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is literaly the text they use on their site

  • @Raymondmichael333
    @Raymondmichael3334 жыл бұрын

    Hey buddy! Really like the content! I am pretty much all set on my next car being the m235xi. However there is a question still lingering that hopefully you could answer for me because I can’t seem to get a straight answer online. Do you have Apple Carplay in your car? If you could elaborate on the availability of this for the m235xi I’m sure you’d not only be answering my question but a bunch of other people’s as well.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mine was a ‘15 so no apple car play! I believe only the ‘18+ M240i and upward have apple car play but i could be mistaken on that

  • @Daveyboy_GolfR
    @Daveyboy_GolfR3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I've been looking for a comparison of those two, so it's greatly appreciated. What year is your m235i if I may ask?

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching! it's a 2015 model year!

  • @Daveyboy_GolfR

    @Daveyboy_GolfR

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SimplyCarThings sweet... Down here in South Florida one of the best places in the US for used car dealers that generally sell 3-5 year old highly sought after luxury and performance cars with between 40 and 50k miles for usually between 18 and 24K dollars... I know that's very specific but it's true. These dealerships are everywhere and will finance anybody. That's why you see so many broke people driving beamers and benzes down here. They only make about $500 to $1,000 per car as they work on a volume basis and can sell 50 cars some days because the prices are so great. So in terms of finding something like a 2016 m235i or an S3 or an a35... Fort Lauderdale area is the best there is ... These dealers have like 15,000 ft warehouses filled with awesome cars. A lot of people actually come down to fort Lauderdale and Hollywood Florida from all over the US to buy cars. I'm glad I live here as I'm a car fanatic and can't afford a brand new m235i but I've seen them for as low as $18,000 with clean Carfax. Still have my 2016 mk7 Golf R But the lease is up in a couple months so I think it's time for a proper driver's car. Golf R wasn't that even though it was good. Sorry about the long message by the way

  • @Lameboy7
    @Lameboy75 жыл бұрын

    Hi, where was this video shot? It’s beautiful!

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    7lameboy thanks! its not too far from palomar mountain!

  • @andrewlee5237
    @andrewlee52374 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from England!! Love your videos, was just wondering why the US didn't get the M135i or the M140i. I've owned my 140 for 15 months now and it's an amazing hyper hatch, fast and definitely a driver's car, with the power all going to the rear wheels making it really twitchy in the wet. Just about to get my first proper mod done, the Remus back axle exhaust, which I will follow with an improved air intake system. By the way, the 140 also has the B58 and its amazing lump, as you've noticed, no noticeable torque delay and now a tuner's dream!!!

  • @Moondoggy1941

    @Moondoggy1941

    4 жыл бұрын

    BMW will not bring a hatch to the US.

  • @andrewlee5237

    @andrewlee5237

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Moondoggy1941 they obviously decided at the time that they wouldn't sell enough of them to make it worth their while, purely on a financial basis I guess!!

  • @Moondoggy1941

    @Moondoggy1941

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewlee5237 I believe that it is more of an F U thing, than money. BMW is still mad at the way the 3118 TI came out was kinda of a failure, especially after Nissan did a drag race with the Sentra blowing it doors off

  • @andrewlee5237

    @andrewlee5237

    4 жыл бұрын

    jim carson I think the car was a lukewarm attempt to build a hot hatch which BMW wasn’t really in the market for. It wasn’t until 2012 when they built their first proper hot hatch, the M135i, that they started to compete in this sector followed by the M140i, which I own, then the new M135i which became a 4 cylinder FWD, a backward step in my opinion

  • @yegutierrez87
    @yegutierrez873 жыл бұрын

    Hi bro, there is no steering or suspension retune for the m240? if not i guess getting myself a m235 is fine.

  • @milnazachod
    @milnazachod5 жыл бұрын

    1:01 I live in Wales :) It;s been 2 weeks of rain non stop now ... roads are ok for driving but speed cameras are not uncommon (mobile and fixed) and sometimes bad road surface between smaller villages). We can get these cars in UK 2015 plate /50k miles for 15k GBP (20k USD) so I think that's very similar. For your price we can buy 2016/2017 plat 25k miles full loaded. Only 69 for sale on Autotrader today.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    wow thats a pretty good deal! Very cool to see you live in wales, beautiful area!

  • @gale4485

    @gale4485

    4 жыл бұрын

    im welsh to

  • @Daveyboy_GolfR
    @Daveyboy_GolfR3 жыл бұрын

    My understanding was the m240i was the m235i successor. Yet they're now making a 2021 m235i grand coupe but the m240i is not made in the grand coupe? Is that correct? So Is the m235 grand coupe using the M240s B58 engine?

  • @VictorEstrada
    @VictorEstrada5 жыл бұрын

    The biggest advantage is the close deck design. Look up the Supra videos explaining it and you'll see why the B58 is better. I has more potential once the after market pays more attention when the supra is released. BMW knows that with the supra having this engine, aftermarket is gonna pickup for these engines, and thus increase its popularity in the street world. Also, they didn't give the Supra as much power in stock form to keep insurance prices down, we all know the potential this engine has.

  • @Daveyboy_GolfR
    @Daveyboy_GolfR2 жыл бұрын

    I've done a search with no answer ... is the 8speed Auto in the 235 or 240 a ZF 8-speed or a DCT or just an in-house BMW 8 speed trans?

  • @f32_boost52
    @f32_boost525 жыл бұрын

    For what a BMW M235i goes for in today's market, what made you buy one over a 340i? I have found that the 340i is a bit cheaper with the same miles as an M235i.

  • @davidwells6902
    @davidwells69025 жыл бұрын

    Its a no brainer - the M235i was discontinued in 2017 and was replaced by the M240i - better engine - better performance - if you cant afford an M240i then get an M235i

  • @commantrosexetlos4700

    @commantrosexetlos4700

    4 жыл бұрын

    spot on mate

  • @georgiosioakeimidis990

    @georgiosioakeimidis990

    4 жыл бұрын

    No way, b58 is a ling

  • @germanengineering204

    @germanengineering204

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@georgiosioakeimidis990 what lmao?

  • @deaconstevej1
    @deaconstevej15 жыл бұрын

    Believe it or not! The M235i fits you better than the 335i. After checking out the videos, you definitely hooked yourself up good! "Simply just a car thang" boyeee!

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    ayyyy! i agree, thanks Steven!

  • @chrisgarret3285

    @chrisgarret3285

    5 жыл бұрын

    I drive a modded N20 powered 328i and I'm feening for the 2 series, thinking M235i with some basic mods, sounds like you like yours

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chris Garret you should go for it man, its an amazing car!

  • @chrisgarret3285

    @chrisgarret3285

    5 жыл бұрын

    Simply Car Things got impatient and bought a 2015 335i M Sport yesterday it’s nice, gonna mod it too.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chris Garret congrats man! That’s super awesome!

  • @FQ1998
    @FQ19983 жыл бұрын

    rktunes had one at 682 whp, both can be tuned to extreme length.

  • @gassx7778
    @gassx77785 жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see how the B58 gets built up by supra owners looking to crack crazy performance out of it

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    yea we'll see its potential being pushed to the limits pretty soon

  • @Jashue

    @Jashue

    5 жыл бұрын

    Most Supra enthusiasts are taking a big dump on the incoming model. They are going to be blown away when the reality of the B58 slaps them in the face...

  • @carboydorifutoparty3976

    @carboydorifutoparty3976

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Jashue id say let the current companies tune/mod the mk5 and people will start looking stupid once they found out at the last minute it's a good engine.

  • @aaa-fv3xk
    @aaa-fv3xk5 жыл бұрын

    Yea, the 235i is such a good choice dude, congratz! and with the 2 series in general, you really aren't going to need more than 400-450 max, anymore and you sacrifice the drivability of the car and the balance as well

  • @lamakicker69

    @lamakicker69

    3 жыл бұрын

    But you can make 400-450 with the B58 much easier. The B58 blows the N55 out of the water.

  • @garrenfitzgerald5060

    @garrenfitzgerald5060

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lamakicker69 I don’t think so. The only difference in my eyes is reliability and makeup of the engine. The b58 does make power abit easier though like you said and quicker from the factory but both can be tuned to how you want it fairly easy

  • @lamakicker69

    @lamakicker69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@garrenfitzgerald5060 well what you think is wrong. N55 makes about 380-400whp on a Stage 2+ OTS tune. Those tunes also require upgraded downpipe, chargepipe, and intercooler. B58 on a stage 2+ OTS tune makes 500+whp with a downpipe and HPFP needed. The N55 is a great engine but the B58 absolutely destroys it and it’s not even close. Makes far more power, with less mods, and is more reliable.

  • @garrenfitzgerald5060

    @garrenfitzgerald5060

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lamakicker69 you can run a tune on the n55 ewg you don’t have to have those mods. There a smart choice and efficient but not a must have if you just want a tune. And my buddy has a m340i with just a tune and dp and he hit 445whp. , my n55 with just e85, hpfp and a charge pipe dyno’d 419/440rwt on a mustang dyno.

  • @lamakicker69

    @lamakicker69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@garrenfitzgerald5060 obviously you can run a stage 1 tune with no mods…but if you want higher tunes you need those mods(unless you want to risk damaging your engine). Your car required more mods and e85 and was still 30whp less lol and that’s with a bad tune on your friends car. Stage 2 (just a downpipe) on the M340i should be 480-500whp…with some e85 it’s 520+whp. Your friend has a shitty tune. It is an undisputed FACT that the B58 is more reliable, it makes more power stock, and it makes far more power when tuned. The N55 is a great engine, but the B58 is far better. Go ask literally any BMW tuner or BMW forum/subreddit and every single person will tell you the B58 blows the N55 out of the water.

  • @bradweiss6097
    @bradweiss60973 жыл бұрын

    Curious to your thoughts 1yr later now that there are some more used M240i on the market. I'm seeing quite a lot of the M240i sale for maybe $5k more for same miles.

  • @didafm

    @didafm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea b58 in 240i is amazing

  • @crapcork
    @crapcork5 жыл бұрын

    Great review! I own a 2017 M240ixDrive, and absolutely adore this car. The only issue I have had is that during warmer weather on longer drives, the engine does eat a bit of coolant and I have had to re-fill the coolant. Had dealer check this out and they found no issues. Other than that, this car just absolutely exceeds the value of the sum of its parts.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Joe Blow thank you! I totally believe it, my brief experience of driving an M240i was fantastic and i loved it. I’m curious about the coolant consumption ive read about that on the forums as well

  • @toms_garage

    @toms_garage

    5 жыл бұрын

    what colour is yours?

  • @crapcork

    @crapcork

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@toms_garage I have the Alpine White, love it - my first white car :)

  • @toms_garage

    @toms_garage

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@crapcork Aww awesome! My first BMW in 2012 was in Alpine white also :)

  • @nildodildo3053

    @nildodildo3053

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here the M235i love coolant

  • @mckricks1
    @mckricks13 жыл бұрын

    What is your opinion on a fully loaded 228i?

  • @Nosnorb06
    @Nosnorb065 жыл бұрын

    For the more typical non-turbo bolt-ons on 93 octane or lower, both the N55 and B58 have fueling issues once you get into the 400whp range. Basically a tune and downpipe will put you in that realm. The B58 makes and sustains a bit more power from 6300 to 7000rpms which gives it better top end legs and the air to liquid intercooling is more efficient. In sub 120mph racing and similar mods, the cars will generate similar acceleration numbers. The B58 has a ton more complexity, lots more cooling components, and a rear mounted timing chain so longterm maintenance costs could be high.

  • @usernamealreadytaken770

    @usernamealreadytaken770

    5 жыл бұрын

    Although the B58 does seem a lot more complex than the N55, I do think it’ll still be really reliable, since Toyota did help BMW with the development of it during the Supra.

  • @mcintosh.motors

    @mcintosh.motors

    5 жыл бұрын

    why the hell did they decide to stick the timing belt on the back??

  • @hurpaderpp

    @hurpaderpp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mcintosh.motors its supposed to last the lifetime of the car

  • @cartere9981

    @cartere9981

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah and just throw the TU fuel pump from the new b58s onto your old b58 and you’re golden

  • @houssamalucad753

    @houssamalucad753

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@hurpaderppa belt will never last the lifetime of the car. A chain maybe, but a belt never.

  • @RickyBobby666
    @RickyBobby6665 жыл бұрын

    I have a 228i and I’m planning on buying a catless downpipe and buying the dinan performance package. Hopefully I can get above 320hp

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    i definitely think you can achieve that

  • @liamtree1250
    @liamtree12505 жыл бұрын

    Hey u mentioned welsh country side thats where i live, shocked to hear an american know the country wales in the uk, u been here before?? Nice car btw the way im currently saving for an m240i decisions on the manual or dct, never drove an auto before

  • @10aDowningStreet

    @10aDowningStreet

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised by that, some amazing roads and scenery in Wales... I guess it's reputation precedes it, deservedly so.

  • @garrenfitzgerald5060
    @garrenfitzgerald50602 жыл бұрын

    m235i all day. The 240 is just as dope but you may as well get the Supra, atleast I would. for the price you get the same engine in a more iconic car for cheaper with the same if not more potential.

  • @liambarnes5081
    @liambarnes50814 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video. I'm trying to decide between the two at the moment, I sway towards the 235i manual 6 speed at the moment, I feel in 20 years time it will be/still be one of the great affordable "everyman" coupes of the petrol era. One to care for and run long after they stop producing fossil fuel cars full stop

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea i think it's going to be a great bargain buy as these cars age. They're so much fun to drive and have a ton of creature comforts and practicality with them as well.

  • @dlzmedia2792

    @dlzmedia2792

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just bought one now

  • @supersonicz06
    @supersonicz065 жыл бұрын

    I love my N55 granted it has a 6266 top mount turbo on it

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    oh man, that must be a blast haha

  • @DolphinDivingChamp
    @DolphinDivingChamp5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like a n55 e82 is way better value than a m235, but the b58 might make the 40 worth it

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    yea it really depends on what your preference is. i personally like the the looks of the 2 series a lot more

  • @cammgt3rs370
    @cammgt3rs370Ай бұрын

    Has anyone ever tracked this car without upgrading the oil pan to keep the engine from oil starvation while harsh braking or cornering?

  • @leonardocascante5753
    @leonardocascante57534 жыл бұрын

    I owned a 135 2013 and it was a great car now i want to upgrade and thinking about N55 or B58, N55 is far one the best cars i have ever driven, now i have good alternatives 2017 N55 19 km and 2017 B58 13 km, price difference about 5k. I like N55 since is a good developed and reliabe engine and price adjust better to my budget. i´d like to hear you guys....:)

  • @ChrisBrown-pz2gu

    @ChrisBrown-pz2gu

    4 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I wouldn't touch a B58

  • @JuanGarcia-vx2vp

    @JuanGarcia-vx2vp

    Жыл бұрын

    N55 is the way to go imo. Good luck with whatever you choose!

  • @samnelson3077
    @samnelson30774 жыл бұрын

    What do you think about RWD vs XDrive? I had a M235 (no LSD) from 2014-2017 and was constantly frustrated with keeping the back wheels down. I have a Giulia AWD and love it but I miss the 2er. Will a 240 with an LSD solve those sideways problems or is XDrive the way to go with all that power?

  • @defyyourlogic487

    @defyyourlogic487

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got me some pilot 4s and it improved that problem quite a bit. But then again I'm not tracking otherwise the LSD is mandatory.

  • @arishingco923
    @arishingco9235 жыл бұрын

    Which backroad is that?

  • @drewyager4020
    @drewyager40204 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. I just picked up a 2017 M240i rwd auto. No performance exhaust no LED headlights. How much am I missing those items and how hard is it to retro fit into the car? Should I get a M diff? I just drive on the street. Thanks and I’ll keep watching and sharing

  • @drewyager4020

    @drewyager4020

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just got this lease return with 20000 miles for 33K

  • @defyyourlogic487

    @defyyourlogic487

    4 жыл бұрын

    The xenons are generally considered to be pretty good. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

  • @jokerboi526
    @jokerboi5264 жыл бұрын

    This was a fuckin good video man. Thanks

  • @paulchen117
    @paulchen1173 жыл бұрын

    Cannot find a used manual transmission M235 or M240. I sold my 2016 M235 because I ordered it with auto, instead of manual. Very disappointed. All my M3's and 328i's of the past are manual. Will order a 2021 through Costco Auto Program. The best value is buying it stock and enjoy it without taking it to an "illegal" chop shop and butcher it. First, you already lose value the moment you drive off the lot. Then you spend hundreds or even thousands more for something you will never use on a regular basis. Then something will break every few months. Very sad to see a nice BMW/Porsche that are heavily modified.

  • @taeojohnston
    @taeojohnston5 жыл бұрын

    As someone who owns an M240i, after comparing both, the M240i drives better, and is faster. It is a lot smoother and I think the exhaust note is better. Also a 0-60 of 4.1 seconds of the m240i challenging the M2

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea I definitely agree, it's an amazing car

  • @Jashue

    @Jashue

    5 жыл бұрын

    4.1 with Xdrive, not RWD

  • @paulygee9664

    @paulygee9664

    5 жыл бұрын

    apparently when you throw a catless dp on the m235 you can really hear the turbo. i could not find a m240 that sounds the same with a catless dp. whats your experience?

  • @sashimijones
    @sashimijones Жыл бұрын

    Hearing that it was possible to buy a lightly used m4 for 40k is crazy. I wish that were the case nowadays.

  • @redarmy1778
    @redarmy17785 жыл бұрын

    f30 335i n55 400nm torque? I thought the n55 is 450nm standard

  • @That_muad_dib
    @That_muad_dib5 жыл бұрын

    dude. love my m235. not trading it. ever.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    amazing car no doubt!

  • @samerhamouch6569
    @samerhamouch65695 жыл бұрын

    #N54gang ❤️

  • @cartere9981
    @cartere9981 Жыл бұрын

    B58 is just better built and less things to worry about with the air to water intercooler

  • @ImportsandExotics
    @ImportsandExotics5 жыл бұрын

    +1 for the N55 for proven reliability. Also, whichever one you pick you will probably need an LSD.

  • @trayonelove
    @trayonelove5 жыл бұрын

    How's the gas mileage/performance? I'm thinking about trading in my 2017 gt mustang to get this car.I'm worried about maintaining a BMW. Did you get a warranty on the car?

  • @dimetriuspricop

    @dimetriuspricop

    5 жыл бұрын

    trayonelove If you take care of the car it will take care of you. Honestly we’ve had BMWs in the family for a long time and it’s never been this huge burden that everyone says it is. BUT, you have to take care of it. Know your way around the car. Get to know it. Once you do, youll know when something doesnt sound right or doesnt feel right and get to fixing the issue before it becomes an expensive issue. As far as performance, you will not be disappointed. Go test drive a few. Every car requires maintenance, but some cars you can put if off for longer before it becomes an issue. (And yes if you regularly change your oil at the dealer it will cost you, with any car. Dealers rip you off. Personal opinion I guess)

  • @wyattcole8009

    @wyattcole8009

    5 жыл бұрын

    Recently bought a n55 car and i have many friends with the same powerplant. Its wonderfully reliable. There is a few common issues to take care of but the motor itself is very solid. Would be a good trade imo

  • @crazylunitic1

    @crazylunitic1

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have a 400whp 2014 335i with basically the same power-plant, it has almost 100k miles with no issues. It gets about 25mpg average and 30+ on the hwy i am very happy with it

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    love it, gas mileage is fantastic so far averaging around 23.5mpg with normal/mildly aggressive driving. reliability so far has been wonderful. i didnt purchase a warranty

  • @unrealeck
    @unrealeck5 жыл бұрын

    I got the M235i as my first ever car. When I was choosing a car to buy, I narrowed it down to two M240i's and an M235i. The only real reason I went with the one I did was the colour and that it had an auto transmission (I wanted to try an auto and it's a tiny bit faster). One of the M240i's and the M235i were about the same price with the former being slightly more due to it being a bit newer and had lower mileage. I don't think it honestly makes much difference which you buy. They seem very very similar even if their engines are different (albeit same spec).

  • @Arman-nl6mg

    @Arman-nl6mg

    5 жыл бұрын

    First ever car? How old are you dude? Or were you into bikes or something before?

  • @warmachine_1396
    @warmachine_13964 жыл бұрын

    What year is this car?

  • @robertcurry6413
    @robertcurry6413 Жыл бұрын

    Is there anyway you can change your videos. Can you change to pov?

  • @georgiosioakeimidis990
    @georgiosioakeimidis9904 жыл бұрын

    B58 is A KIND

  • @aidancadogan7998
    @aidancadogan79984 жыл бұрын

    Biebs in the trap🔥🔥

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    4 жыл бұрын

    you know how it is :D

  • @Dan330i
    @Dan330i2 ай бұрын

    Can’t decide on 235 or 240i

  • @peterodogwu8497
    @peterodogwu84975 жыл бұрын

    Hey! just a quick question. Found a guy selling his 335xi for a fairly low price with a leaking head gasket. It’s at 75k miles and also has a bad alternator. Should i buy it and have it repaired or just pass?

  • @YogKicks

    @YogKicks

    5 жыл бұрын

    Buy it, make friends with someone at a shop and do the install yourself

  • @peterodogwu8497

    @peterodogwu8497

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yogi B you think it’s a good idea ?

  • @YogKicks

    @YogKicks

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@peterodogwu8497 generally, OEM BMW parts can be found for cheap/decent prices if you look hard enough. If you aren't up for the labor or don't have the resources/ tools, then pay an indy mechanic. If you want it, go for it. Just don't take your car to the stealership lol .

  • @YogKicks

    @YogKicks

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@peterodogwu8497 I blew my front diff on my xi and the dealership wanted $3,000 for a new one not including labor. I picked up a used diff with low miles for around $280 and had my mechanic install for around $3-400 . If you have a buddy and proper tools, you can definitely save the labor cost.

  • @peterodogwu8497

    @peterodogwu8497

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yogi B thanks man ! I’ll look into it. Atleast someone replied.

  • @craigroberts3732
    @craigroberts3732 Жыл бұрын

    Both are direct injection right? .. how’s the carbon build up??

  • @bobespnza-la7030
    @bobespnza-la70303 жыл бұрын

    Okay but how would a M4 reliability compare to the M240i ?

  • @allclraerial

    @allclraerial

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great question. Based on research and test study the M240i would be more reliable. The engine is very similar to the B58 used in the Toyota Supra and Toyota tested the engine against their standards and it passed so that alone would sway me to the M240i. The M4 is larger and has more expensive components all together so the price to own would be more but it is not a nightmare to own like some older BMW M cars with V8/V10 engines. Hope this helps some!

  • @ruru2500
    @ruru25003 жыл бұрын

    different intro music please

  • @ferrygti8867
    @ferrygti88675 жыл бұрын

    M2 ;-) i have one , i love M235i or M240i alsow nice cars al the 2 ! i have 370hp and overboost 500NM

  • @anthonywright5275
    @anthonywright52755 жыл бұрын

    #n54 🙌

  • @anthonywright5275

    @anthonywright5275

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Formidable Legend123 lol every N54 owner knows the risk they take with that great power. It's not a choice, it's a lifestyle having Triple A Towing on standby! 😂😭

  • @onimusha5dm
    @onimusha5dm5 жыл бұрын

    The B58 is going to be reliable why would Toyota risk there name putting it in the new supra. They know it's a good engine.

  • @michaelnikprelaj6679

    @michaelnikprelaj6679

    5 жыл бұрын

    onimusha5dm Toyota re engineered the motor so it can meet their reliability standards

  • @carboydorifutoparty3976

    @carboydorifutoparty3976

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelnikprelaj6679 2020s going to be intersting with the B58,new 7.3L V8 that ford made,and mazdas 3.0L I6.

  • @germanengineering204

    @germanengineering204

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelnikprelaj6679 please send me a link because from what I hear the motor is exactly the same pretty sure you're misinformed!

  • @michaelnikprelaj6679

    @michaelnikprelaj6679

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@germanengineering204 speed.academy/the-2020-gr-supra-is-a-lot-more-toyota-than-you-think/ Last paragraph of first page. That’s one of the sources I could find quick. In essence, Toyota has done a lot of testing of this B58 motor to make sure it lived up to Toyota reliability standards and some things were changed

  • @germanengineering204

    @germanengineering204

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelnikprelaj6679 I actually had found out that they used a ton of other components it's mostly a BMW honestly!

  • @Squeak-85
    @Squeak-853 жыл бұрын

    M235i ALL DAY!!!

  • @tommye9057
    @tommye90575 жыл бұрын

    Bm3 is coming out very soon for the B58!!!

  • @Ricoman611
    @Ricoman6114 жыл бұрын

    Shout out to the Welsh countryside ☝️

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    4 жыл бұрын

    👌🏼👌🏼

  • @rampage3337
    @rampage33375 жыл бұрын

    m240i :)

  • @usernamealreadytaken770
    @usernamealreadytaken7705 жыл бұрын

    I’m biased towards N55 because I have a M2, but I do think the B58 will be reliable because Toyota did help develop it. I actually wished BMW offered the M2 with the B58 instead of the N55.

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    i wish the same sometimes as well haha, but nevertheless the M2 is a wonderful car to drive. I'm jealous, i wish i owned one lol

  • @bobstarr

    @bobstarr

    5 жыл бұрын

    samuel, i heard the engineering was done in germany but toyota would bring parts to its factory for stress testing. and the "s"58 is coming to the m2 soon. first, it will make its debut in the m3 with 505 hp.

  • @usernamealreadytaken770

    @usernamealreadytaken770

    5 жыл бұрын

    bob starr The S58 already made its debut, with the X3/X4 M.

  • @MrRoni123456789
    @MrRoni1234567895 жыл бұрын

    N55 FTW🤪

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    N55

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    What's the most hp you can get from an M235i without third-party/after market parts? I'm considering buying one used but all of this is new for me and I want to play it safe until I learn more

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    320hp & 332lb/tq is the most you'll get without any sort of bolt on upgrade or software flash. its plenty of power to have fun with

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    @@SimplyCarThings Thanks man! Really appreciate your reply. What's a safe limit for hp improvement with a software flash? Businesses in my city claim that they can get up to 80hp with a stage 2, but I don't know if that could be real and/or damage the engine

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    @ honestly you can squeeze an extra 150+whp with the right setup. just stay on top of your maintenance and take care of the car. These engines/gearboxes are built to handle a lot of power!

  • @erickromero010
    @erickromero0105 жыл бұрын

    ive noticed when trying to max speed on stock m235i that even on flat road traction control always kicks in and nearly makes me crash. maybe the wind?? idk but whenever i try to max speed now i always take traction control off

  • @MRMOUNTAINDUEM3

    @MRMOUNTAINDUEM3

    5 жыл бұрын

    get better tires maybe, when doing high speeds like that tires really show their potential

  • @rcybergaming
    @rcybergaming5 жыл бұрын

    The N55 can hit 600hp with some relatively "easy"

  • @theotaalliance4923
    @theotaalliance49235 жыл бұрын

    Get back a 335i

  • @feerstyy
    @feerstyy5 жыл бұрын

    The only problem I have is that neither is a "real" ///M car.

  • @xxtheycallmeeli
    @xxtheycallmeeli5 жыл бұрын

    fuck bro I'm out here shopping but insurance is fucken insane

  • @SimplyCarThings

    @SimplyCarThings

    5 жыл бұрын

    yea it is man

  • @KhalidSharpe
    @KhalidSharpe5 жыл бұрын

    N54 vs. N55 :)

  • @antskrt107
    @antskrt1075 жыл бұрын

    N55 gang 😜

  • @ChipZilla69
    @ChipZilla695 жыл бұрын

    I traded my M235i for an M240 and a hand full of cash. I couldn't be happier with both cars. The paint work on the M235i was a bit thin so I made sure to ceramic coat my M240i and put ppf on the bumper.

  • @Noname-od5zy

    @Noname-od5zy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Which one drives better ? And which one sounds better ? I’m so indecisive right now I need help Iv short listed 2 cars but I felt the 235i sounds more aggressive ?

  • @ChipZilla69

    @ChipZilla69

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Noname-od5zy pros for the 235i. Sounds better and had slightly more at the top end. Pros for the m240i engine is even smoother, more power and torque through the low and mid range. Less turbo lag in comfort. Better fuel economy. Closed block design is stronger so better for turning up the boost. You will be delighted with iether. Put an msport exhaust on the m240 and out sounds good especaily in sports.

  • @Noname-od5zy

    @Noname-od5zy

    5 жыл бұрын

    ChipZilla69 thanks you How much would one of those msport exhausts go for ? I had a 435d x drive convertible but it got abit boring need something more nippy

  • @Noname-od5zy

    @Noname-od5zy

    5 жыл бұрын

    ChipZilla69 also do them exhausts have an impact on fuel consumption?

  • @ChipZilla69

    @ChipZilla69

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Noname-od5zy used msport exhaust is around £350 and new is £650. Fitting is extra. Fuel economy not impacted by exhaust. M235i and m240i are the same car so drive the same. M240 has a face lift and the new b58 engine as opposed to the n55 in the older model.

  • @ianmitchell9102
    @ianmitchell91024 жыл бұрын

    You didn’t drive the 240, how can you compare it ?

  • @svxw

    @svxw

    4 жыл бұрын

    its the same car. different engine, but mechanically nearly identical.

  • @ianmitchell9102

    @ianmitchell9102

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nando completely different engine mate, try it

  • @svxw

    @svxw

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ianmitchell9102 yeah that's what I said. But besides the engine its mechanically the same car pretty much.

  • @ianmitchell9102

    @ianmitchell9102

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nando but it’s a 2 car comparison, so if the 2nd car is almost the same whys there a comparison in the first place ? I’ve owned both and yes they are similar but completely different driving characteristics

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