Should You Buy The Strymon NightSky?
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The Strymon NightSky is one of the most impressive pedals I've played yet, its capable of sounds that are unlike anything else I have. So why am I not sure about it?
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Amazing video man! Really enjoyed that :)
@RhettShull
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!
I own a NightSky, and the one BIG thing you have to be aware of, you will need an external midi controller, it can hold 300 patches in 3 banks, BUT they have no librarian to keep track of this so you better think about it, also you can not access the next 8 patches from Strymond unless you can send controller, and PC messages, now you can create cool patches fast, but where do you store them? and how do you retrieve them? I reached out to Strymond and their words are you must buy an external control and figure out a patch librarian on your own, now that being said, I own a Morningstar MC8 and have begun to make and store my own patches, but at this price point you will have to invest in another controller to take advantage of this pedal...this is never mentioned in any review that I have seen yet, and its a BIG deal at this price point...Helix, Eventide H9 all have advanced editor/ librarian software to support their pedals, this does not...Rhett makes some nice points about this pedal, but like a lot of reviews, this is never mentioned
@henrythaler4419
2 жыл бұрын
I use a Korg Wavestate midi'd to and from a Behringer Deepmind 12, also the connected MIDI out from my old Kawai K1R module which passes on the PC messages to the Nightsky. I set it up for MIDI Bank 0, since 128 memory patches is more than enough for my needs. Since the Wavestate only sends out PC from 1 - 64 from it's Set List, I can use the Behringer MIDI Bank that I'm working on, to select PC from 65 - 128 on the Kawai and the Nightsky. Moving patches on the Nightsky (to overwrite bad ones with better ones) can be tricky, since I have to send a MIDI PC message to the Nightsky from the Behringer. Since I can only send a PC message by selecting the next or previous patch on the Behringer, I use a MIDI filter pedal I've had for over 20 years, to temporarily shut off the PC button, move the Behringer to just before the patch # on the Nightsky I want to override, turn the Filter pedal MIDI back on, press + for the next patch, and the good Nightsky patch overrides the bad one. Strymon also has a Multiswitch add-on pedal, which apparently can be set to select all Midi banks 0, 1, and 2, wich, fortunately, I don't need. I believe it is intended for Guitarists who don't have or want to be othered with MIDI Controllers.
@jessieplaysmusic8530
2 жыл бұрын
Most guitar players outside of a church don’t use midi
@VIDS2013
10 ай бұрын
@@jessieplaysmusic8530 Um...what?! Most pro & aspiring pro guitar players use MIDI these days.
@nonsense2369
9 ай бұрын
Are you just talking saving settings? Can’t you just take a picture of it and save it to a folder in your phone? I can’t imagine I’d need to remember anymore than a handful of settings for a set list.
"I'm thinking of building a modular synth...' He said before descending down the rabbit hole. I'm also a guitar player who decided to check out modular synthesizers, let me just say that it's very enjoyable but a hell of a learning curve.
@tompoynton
3 жыл бұрын
My name is Eurorack, Destroyer of Wallets
@marcusstrymon693
2 жыл бұрын
And so I thiight playing guitar anr buying pedals would be pricy Let me introduce myself, i am Eurorack
The synth and slide paired together sound so so good, love the jam here
Not sure how everyone else feels about it, but when it comes to “reverb” pedals, I want it to achieve some crazy spacey, other worldly sounds. The more “out there” the better. And the experimentation with different sounds helps write parts that I eventually turn into a song. It’s really fun to write a song around a specific sound I found. This pedal is going to a lot of us experimenting like crazy. :)
Dude, you always have killer intros to start off the video! Keep it up!
It’s like having “Tangerine Dream” in a pedal. Great if you’re into Prog Rock.
@nealeshaffer3140
3 жыл бұрын
Thats the exact reasons I bought it! I love early TD and prog
@karlhouseknecht
3 жыл бұрын
Or if you're into horror movies from the 80's. :)
@EnochDark
3 жыл бұрын
I thought more Pink Floyd watching a different demo of it.
@josephwright5921
3 жыл бұрын
@@nealeshaffer3140 Me, too! If you like guitar and sometimes ambient experimentation, check out an artist or project called Lanterna.
@Lainer1
3 жыл бұрын
Or ambient
Rhett. I swear blind your demo tracks are the most creative and musically interesting on KZread. I really hope you get a project going that makes music like that full time because it's stunning and I would listen to it for hours and hours
I really dig this review, Rhett! I can’t tell you how helpful your reviews on gear have been for me. I’m very appreciative. And man, I loved seeing the pedal being used with the Moog Sub 37 to give a quick perspective on what it’s like if you pair with a synth. I also have a Sub 37 and a Minimoog Voyager that I can’t wait to pair this pedal with! I get mine in the next couple days.
Thank you Rhett, your intro was super cool. I hope that you record it as a new song. For me this is a must have!!! This is absolutely amazing. It seems to be ideal for shoe gaze, Eno-esque, soundtrack, etc. All in all Strymon has created a fantastic new pedal that will help push your boundries.
Really digging the intro Rhett. Seeing a product inspire is, well, inspiring. Keep it up.
Well, since the moment I saw it, I knew I wanted it. For the type of music and sounds I like to incorporate in my music, this pedal is perfect. Great video!
really cool to hear you play something a bit different, and it sounds absolutely fantastic!
That tune at the start was sooooo darn good! Love the channel!
KILLED IT ON THAT INTRO!!! I've keep coming back to listen
Hi Rhett, Came here from Rabea's video on the Nightsky because he mentioned being inspired by this one. I saw the Nightsky's initial promotional videos from Strymon and, having always wanted a Strymon pedal and (loving reverb as I do), I ordered this the week it landed. I haven't had a lot of time to dig in and devote to it, but it satisfies my itch for expansive, immersive reverb sounds, and I am happy to have a long learning curve ahead of me for the other sounds I'll be able to tap into as I play with it more. Rabea is right, this is a great video - thank you for your honest, straightforward take on gear. I'll be subscribing and watching more. Cheers.
Thanks for a great informative video! 🎉
That intro is actually the best intro I’ve hear you do IMO. Reminded me of pg.lost which is one of my favourite bands! 🔥
Amazing intro man. It would be so cool for you to make these songs into full tracks. Love your stuff!
Love the synth playing!
Great review Rhett, and you nailed my initial reaction to this pedal. I thought it sounded spectacular on the Sub37, and now I’ve been wanting to try my H9 and Collider with mine to see if can get similar territory. You are spot on about the big build up on the track - it’s an effect that seems can get out of control if overused.
Rhett, the intro was the best I've heard in a long time ... very nice!
That intro was really fresh and great sounding Rhett! love it!
Rhett the intro on this video was great! Thanks for showing off this pedal I've also been on the fence about buying it. I've gotten so used to my Keeley "Dark Side" pedal that I haven't had much need for extra reverb/delay. This pedal seems ideal for a looping artist that's for sure. The Strymon is nice nonetheless if you can utilize everything on it and have the extra $$
Im learning more through your vids than i do at school😅. Love the quality of vids you put out
holy shit, thanks for the plug dude.
Great video, oh my goodness that Gretsch and the sounds coming out of it! Wow!
Your intro is amazing. You should put that together as a complete track and release it. Wish I had a fraction of your talent.
Strymon makes amazing products. Wish I could afford them.
@ArtyShat
3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's 500$, even with average salary, you can save in 2 months :)
@finnancahill2644
3 жыл бұрын
Artjom Šatalin unless they’re a student or have kids
@texanfournow
3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtyShat Not with a wife, two children, and college loans up the wazoo... Anyway, at $500, if you have to ask yourself about the value proposition. For instance, Flamma just came out with a cool reverb pedal @$68. Or, if you have $500 to spare, what else could you spend it on? Like, retirement? Ha
@joonasarmpalu7805
3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtyShat Do you assume that everyone around the world is in the exact same financial situation as you? There are so many unknown elements to someone else's finances e.g family, housing, transport, medical expenses, loans etc. Not to mention that in some parts of the world 500 dollars might be your entire monthly income while in other parts of the world it might be only 1/10 of your monthly income.
@LITRLG0D
3 жыл бұрын
@@joonasarmpalu7805 if you cant save 500 dollars in a couple months then you should play less guitar and work more. go mow some lawns.
Thanks for the video, Rhett. I’ve wanted to start working on ambient music with bass guitar, and this seems like it would fit perfectly.
Informative review. You slide guitar at the beginning.. 🔥 Keep creating amazing textures 🤎
I like your style, Rhett! In both your guitar-playing and your compositions, and that was another great intro :-) And I agree, that thing is the perfect tool for creating soundscapes. Hours of fun :-))
I could watch a 10 hour intro from you. Awesome work of art.
Great reaction. You articulated well about what this pedal is. I fall into that "basic guitar player" mold, and definitely am a fan of Strymon pedals, and use the Flint and Deco (which does just about anything). I think some players get caught up in the desire for a new toy, and focus more on the amount of possible options. For me, I try to pair back, so less of my thought is on the equipment, and more on what I'm playing.
@marcusstrymon693
2 жыл бұрын
Well for me, I would have lost interest in playing guitar a long time ago, if it wasnt for the endless options of creating so many soundsscapes that dont sound like guitar but I can play with guitar. For me crafting sound is also a gift to be mastered and I enjoy it a lot, eapecially making patches on the fly while recording songs. I pretty mich never use presets eith my 7 strymons, I always dial in the sounds very fast and always end up with something new that inspires me to play guitar differently. I never lose the focus on playing, it even encourages me to play ehen it soumds so awesome.
Great review! I like your honesty
such a badass groove in the beginning there loved it
Appreciate the honest transparent feedback.
I clicked for the Night Sky but now I'm saving for the Moog! Killer stuff Rhett!
Great video man! Keep it up
Well said. I like my Eventide Space because it covers insane ambient effects, but also can do everyday spring, plate, halls.
I bought it after seeing the first couple videos on it. I fully agree with you. It sounds amazing, but it really was made to mess with, and you can't do that whilst playing at the same time. I thought the same about studio use and stuff like film-scoring. I played around today, and it sounded pretty great.
honest and informative video, well done \m/
I think you nailed it at the end. It’s a soundscape pedal. Super cool and unique here and there.
I think your views on this pedal are spot on. I like the night sky, but I have to look at practicality for me. It would be an awesome piece of gear to explore in my studio setting, but not for my regular song sets. So if I can find a decent used deal in the future I may get one. Really good video. 👍
man the intro music you make is incredible
I am primarily a synth player (I hack at the guitar) and I score films, and I recently picked up one of these pedals based on your video. I love it. I'm going to make a control surface for mine that interfaces with my modular synth and sends MIDI CCs to the Night Sky based on the various LFOs I have.
Appreciate the honest review! Was thinking about getting one of these for my eurorack set up. Gonna have to use something like MI Yarns or Befaco CV Thing to make the most out of the NightSky's MIDI capabilities...
Hot damn, that little jam at the top was super good.
Yep really loved that beginning!
Love the Subsequent 37 vibes! Keep on rockin'!
I feel like everyone got convinced by this video not to buy it but it convinced me to buy it 😂
I'm definitely interested in one to have around. It's definitely useful for something. I'd really like to hear it with more dry signal just to see how subtle things can get. I could see solo acts using it to have a bigger sound. I think strymon wants to continue to change the narrative and that's exactly what they did here.
Moog sounds on this one 🔥🔥🔥 I think this one of your best tracks legend. I know you said it was difficult to make but I think really pushed you in a very interesting direction 😊✌️☀️
Thanks Rhett ⚓️
Works great for guitar. Goes above and beyond. It's all in there and is good for more than just one part of a song. It will do normal reverb and it does it well, it also does pretty nice things for those special moments. Most important for me is it has knobs no menus to scroll through. 128 presets that can be recalled through MIDI. I received mine a few days ago and already have it in my rig along with the Volante, they sound great together. Strymon's thinking on this pedal was out of the box.
This whole video sounds awesome!
As allways your style and your videos area really useful to understand gears. bravo
Loved that intro Rhett!
Very well put. I still want one.
Killer intro as always. You should definitely start considering publishing your intro "backstage songs". Keep up the good work man.
Badass video Rhett, lol you should do one on how to get those dope drum sounds on Logic
Personally I would not use it for guitar but it would be cool piece for my pedal steel rig.
Good review. Rhett. Your ambivalence towards this pedal made me decide to buynit in the future, but I will keep my TC Electronic Hall of Fame 2 for use in jam sessions. The Strymon is indeed more of use for studio meddling, doing ambient solo sessions and composing.
Awesome Rhett!
Thanks for not shying away from your real opinion or perspective.
Thanks for the honest review pal.
Loved the vid,very honest.I would defo buy that pedal.
That opening mix was massive! Great review on this. I'm only afraid I may need a PHD to operate it. It's a wicked cool box! Yes, your ears could possibly overdose on this pedal, but savage when used in the right context.
I've been messing around it with it a lot myself the past few days. I definitely designate it as mostly a studio tool or something I experiment around with after a few beers. That's when the fun begins!
Thanks for the great review, Rhett! I was thinking of buying one of these, but I'm definitely a basic-sounds kind of player, and this would have been very impractical for me.
3:02 - there it is. Seems like a very useable pedal for recording transitions. Like it.
@dustinmccrindle343
3 жыл бұрын
Transitions and paired with synth gear. 👌😎
The issue I have with some of these pedals is that there are 300 presets I would have absolutely no use for. I wish Strymon would develop a pedal where you could download the best patches from Big Sky, Mobius, Timeline etc. into one box.
I like what you call "niche effect", I mean, it's cool you talk about it. You're certainly absolutely right about this very specific pedal use target. Your opinion is precious. Thanx for this video
Well done, as I found this link over at TGP. I, too, play a Gretsch Black Falcon, and almost pulled the trigger on the NightSky. I play ambient, P&W and pedal steel guitar ala Daniel Lanois. Lots of cool sounds lurking inside, but as a gigging musician, I'm not sure I can justify adding this pedal to my gigging boards. Just a gut feeling .. once someone records a song with the NightSky and the song takes off, it will become the pedal of the month.
Rhett ‚The Edge‘ Shull 😉. Cool Intro, man 🤘. But this thing has a lot of the Boss Slicer (the Strymon can do a lot more) that was always under the radar.
Love the slide melody!
That thing sounds amazing!
I must state....your audio recording is exceptionally good :]
Great, honest review.
New guitar shapes!! We need something like that these days for sure !!!
Great vid. I completely agree. I’m glad that companies are doing this kind of specialized stuff, but I can’t help being on the fence about this one. The NightSky (and others like Zoia etc) seem almost like the apex of this pedal craze we’ve all been in for years where now it almost seems companies are making products for gearpage users and ambient KZread guitarists more than typical working musicians. I’m not knocking it..I love both of those things, and obviously these are the people who buy them. My El Cap/Flint combo will never leave my board, but I even feel like I see more Timelines and Big Sky’s on Instagram than out in the real world. Either way it’s a crazy time to be a guitarist!
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Great review, super fair glance at the Eno box
Like your objective ness in this video Rhett, yes you can get some amazing soundscapes and actually use well when recording film/tv soundtracks with lots of ambience and creative new ideas, as you say not just for guitarists but a host of other instruments which is great, but for me it’s a very expensive pedal that I can’t see me using lots in my guitar band set so although it would be great to have one I couldn’t justify spending that amount on something I would rarely be able to use. Great video 👍
The minute I heard it I thought “that’s cool but I have no use for it practically” it’s cool but for the price tag I could get a lot of other more useful things 🤷♂️
@davidhallowell3457
3 жыл бұрын
No more Mr. Night Sky
@ufosigma
2 жыл бұрын
I have it I like it :-)
Very cool opening composition
This pedal will be BIG with the experimental music community. It will be used with many instruments, not just guitar. Electronic producers will love it. Same as soundtrack composers. Personally I'm excited.
Good description and I agree... if you write your own songs and want to create some lush backgrounds, or Film score type stuff, perfect, but for the everyday guitarist I don't see much use for this. I have a Timeline and Big Sky and putting those two together is fun enough for me :-)
Good honest review
Music from the hearts of space... Like you say experimental players, and those in the ambient realm, are going to love that pedal
I think you are exactly correct. This pedal seems more useful in a studio for composition than it would be for an active cover band. I also agree that in this case the pedal isn't better or worse than other pedals. It's just different... and unique. I like not only that Strymon makes different pedals that can be used for different instruments, but also how it can make pedals for the same instrument that do different things. I love these type pedals force us artists to think more creatively and more outside the box.
Holy smokes.. Amazing intro 💜
Great review. thanks. Agree that this is more of a studio unit sitting beside the desk (for me as a guitarist / producer) but not really a pedalboard thing . . . certainly cool for soundtrack work on guitar / synth / samplers etc. Would be a handy plug-in!
Cyber attack dude is genius!!! His Moog ring mod video of old on his old channel was the best ring modulation video ever as well. Love his new channel.
Wonder if this giant wave of stereo spatial modulation effects, plugins, pedals will somehow swing the pendulum the other way: maybe the next unique sound is not more modulation on your compressed stereo spread, but some amazing musician playing mono dry cutting through a band sounding fresh and weird and new compared to now commonplace bedroom producer ambient sound design lush Splice loopers. Maybe the music in the upside down isn’t more dream stuff but more real stuff. Or maybe we are in the upside down. Still, though, love you Strymon.
@marcusstrymon693
2 жыл бұрын
Dude there isntons of people out there doing what you just suggested, and I absolutely love it when they do. But the nightsky sounds insane if used right. Go and watch Perry Franks sound examples on the nightsky. This thing has some incredibly amazing sounds in it, it is more than just a pedal. You can create the most beautiful synthlike soundscapes with them, also by sending vst through them. Absolutely beautiful
That arpeggio effect with the Moog was super cool. I can think of a bunch of stuff I'd use it for, but the main guy I'm recording with once the current situation clears up is all about having a couple of weird pedals that make a tonne of different sounds alongside the standard fare items, and I'm all about using synths alongside guitars. Strymon, is it my birthday?
Nice vid man. Everything you said is true. It´s a really "perticular" pedal. If you are into ambient scene and like to tweak, guitar or synth, don´t hesitate. Had a long thought should I insvest in this or not, now, no regrets. This pedals is just amazing.
Fantastic opening track!
Thank you for the video brother as always love what you contribute.. I love this pedal but I think you nailed it Overkill !!!! It’s interesting to me how these companies are making products that makes guitars sound more and more like keyboards. Personally I think there’s so much great gear out there for half the cost.. If you’re looking for a reverb pedal I would try to find something more conventional.. If you’re looking for studio gear this would be perfect.
Thank you Rhett. "I like when a company tries something new". Yes. Me too !!!