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@akumaking1

2 жыл бұрын

Could you do a review of different 3D printers? Or try to make your own?

@NoName-eh3jd

2 жыл бұрын

hey how is it going with your ghia : )

@joshfick4107

2 жыл бұрын

Bob Smith Industries insta-set accelerator works great for any CA glue and doesn't hurt painted surfaces or leave a white residue like other activators will. I use a needle applicator bottle for better control instead of spraying, plus you don't waste as much.

@mars-cs4uk

6 ай бұрын

You're promoting someone. Did you forget the subject? Just remained you the subject, Should You Buy a CNC or a Laser?

Incredible! This turned out even better than I could have imagined. Thank you for making my silly dream a reality

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Of course! We love your work and will look for any opportunity to bring any of it to life.

LOVED the tag on the end of the video replicating the PBS "thank you". That is a nice nod to the New Yankee Workshop and This Old House.

The only criticism I have for CNC machines is that they don't go "pew pew". This sign made my day. I can't stop smiling. Great work ILTMS!

Quick tip. For the template at the end, use wax OR Vaseline to cover the template back and edges this prevents the glue from sticking to it. Personally Vaseline is my favorite you can warm it a little and it becomes liquid and just paint it on. Super simple and glue never sticks to it. I also use it in some cases for painting to prevent paint from sticking.

The New Yankee Workshop was one of my favorite shows to watch when I was younger and I've always seen your channel as a modernized version of it which is why I love watching it so much. Brian Kesinger's art and this episode were especially a treat for me. Definitely takes me back. Great job!

Love the sign, and thanks for that closing, it really brought me back to sitting with my dad and watching new Yankee workshop

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I love Brian’s work. So awesome to see the collab. I want one of these signs for my shop!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

We're working on that. 😉

Love the walkthrough of making one of these signs. I see so many people making them and fewer people taking the time to walk others through the process.

CNC is a large format planer as well. Further CNC tricks can start to replace bandsaws, jointers, and scroll saws at the expense of time and hot glue. I make cutting boards larger than 12" wide ..it is painful to think of life without a CNC to flatten them and make the juice grove. I own a laser and use that for thin high detail projects, but very rarely for cutting as the burnt edge is not my favorite. I would vote 4x4 CNC before laser for woodworkers. My 2 cents. Great video and sign. Now if only CNC machines could prime, sand and paint...🤔.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. We made a bench out of a huge log a while ago and used the CNC as a planer.

Great episode, Bob and Team! I loved all the different areas, along with the tips, you touched upon; especially the primer for MDF. Extra kudos for that tip, thanks! And the sign was awesome too!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

As a die hard NYW fan, this was epic, especially the "this was made possible by". Although I'm surprised I didn't hear "made possible by a generous grant from the Clagett Family Foundation". And as always, there's no greater safety tip than to wear these safety glasses.

An absolutely gorgeous sign. I remember watching the New Yankee Workshop. Great comparisons between CNC and Laser. Great job Bob, Josh and Andrew on the video. Keep up the great work.

Great video and excellent comparison. I want both LOL. Thanks for running us through the process of making this sign, it turned out fantastic.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Can't imagine a better cross over, Brian's work being so amazing. So fun, so fun, great work

That Sign looks incredible... The Art and the actual piece. Truly amazing what happens when two great creators get into contact.

That sign looks amazing. I’m in the process of deciding laser or CNC so this video helped a lot.

Beautiful work, Bob! The sign looks fantastic! 😃 Thanks a bunch for all the tips!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You too!

Man I miss Norm and the New Yankee Workshop. I remember the episode where he made signs using different techniques and met a master sign maker that did then by hand. Great homage with the Book of Boba Fett reference

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

It was a fun project for an awesome artist.

EPIC nod to the New Yankee Workshop. The design, the opening credit music, and the outro "...and viewers like you." Love the homage.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Anthony did a great job on the edit.

the commercial pip with content video in the background is genius! love your stuff brother!

When one of your favorite KZreadrs collabs with one of your favorite artists. Watching this surrounded by the six prints I have of Brian's art in my work office. So cool!

@bkartonline

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is perfect timing since I am wanting to make a sign for my shop that I just rebuilt.

The music touch on the reveal is fantastic! Golf clap, chefs kiss, etc.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Anthony did a great job

I've loved both Brian Kesinger and this channel for some time. Two great tastes, taste great together.

Great job on the sign but extra great job on that finale snow scene. That exposure and color was really nice.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

This was an excellent video! Thanks!!

Seeing that sign was a blast from the past too!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

I know right?

I wasn't go to say anything until you mentioned this project on the podcast twice, but this kind of comes full circle for me. I grew up with my dad watching the New Yanky Workshop and being very (in a not too mean way) jealous. He would often say things at the TV like, "Cut it again Norm!" or "Oh just make a perfect joint why don't you?!", and that is how Sunday Morning TV was in the house. . . I started watching your cannel when you were building the Tie Fighter firepit and then binge watched a lot of your catalog.... Afterwards, I called my sister and told her "I think I found my Norm Abram" We both laughed for awhile over it. I to am jealous of the cool things that you build, But I do appreciate that you do talk through the issues you run into and troubleshooting of the problems. I think that is way I don't yell at my laptop screen. I do try to keep up in my own way, I have a fair few of my own projects, some even turn out pretty good.

Great insights about both types of machines. And the sign turned out great!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bruce!

Great information on CNCs vs Lasers. Thanks for sharing.

After researching for quite a while I just pulled the trigger and bought a laser cutter for my workshop instead off a cnc. Main reason for picking the laser over the cnc was the dust a cnc would create. Other factors where the ease of use (No different tools and less cam) and hopefully that it would be easier to learn by multiple of my collegues

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Very good point. You just have to vent a laser where you have collect the dust from a CNC

@ivmilicevic

2 жыл бұрын

What laser did you pick?

@final182

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivmilicevic I got a BRM Pro 900. Its a dutch brand laser. 100 Watt glass CO2 laser

I recently had this debate with myself. I ultimately ended up choosing a laser for my shop. I make a lot of cutting boards that customers want with their name/logo burned on to it. I think the CNC is fantastic and I will eventually get one but for my needs the laser was the best bet. This is entirely subjective (like you said) and specific to my needs. I enjoyed the video as always!

Absolutely loved this build. I've seen the sign in person (I'll skip the storytelling here, did that on the Making It ep. 340 comment on Patreon), used to run The New Yankee Workshop website, and got to hang with Russ and Norm for about a decade as their web guy. They'd be proud of this (although I am not sure they would get the reference).

The sign looks really cool and this was a great summary of strengths for each tool, but the sign concept itself cracked me up. Loved the closing credit scene too. 🤣 Thanks for sharing!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Brilliant Bob! Super cool sign, and great artist!

OG Maker route: DIY CNC machine, there are sooo many great follow-alongs and 3d printed versions. Great video, i had that question in mind 2 years ago and build the mpcnc. I think you did a good job by putting these parts to the different machines, good to understand for newbies. Also: nice tip with colorcore, sadly i did not found such a material in europe, maybe in the future.

Love the video! Personally I feel like using a CNC generally results in a slower workflow, as there is usually a cost of CAM work (generating tool paths for the CNC to go from design to cutting). Feeds and speeds (how fast to cut, how deep to cut, how fast to spin the bit, etc) is an art in itself. That being said, the CNC definitely lets you do more things so there’s always a trade off :)

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Just for clarity CNC stands for "computer numerical control" so the rig that's moving x, y, z is the CNC, doesn't really matter what's attached to it. So basically both of these are technically CNC whether its a laser, water jet, router etc. Great vid!

@aaroncherman7629

2 жыл бұрын

This drives me nuts when people reference "a CNC". I get it, some people aren't educated, but this guy should know better. 🤦‍♂

@David-hm9ic

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! It’s CNC; not “a CNC.” It is “a CNC router, a CNC laser” and so on. To call something “a CNC” doesn’t tell me what they have.

Love the sign!! Thx for the files... I think I'll make one.

Pro tip. At 14.28 put some shallow shims under the layout template. That way you don't risk gluing it the to sign

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Good call!

Great video. I like the née look and format.

Oh heck yeah - I just got Brian's email about the The Tusken Workshop Design and I LOVE that you made it into a real sign!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

It was begging to be a real thing.

@MikeLynchMakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iliketomakestuff I couldn't agree more. Loved the little New Yankee Workshop nods in this episode too. Norm would be proud.

I have premium KZread membership because I can't stand all the ads. However, I know having sponsored ads 'baked' into the video by the content maker helps the upkeep costs. I doubly apricate how you put a timer bar during the ad so I can easily skip it, thank you so much. After all, after watching a ton of your video's why would I want to see SimpliSafe again and again . Your channel is awesome 😎

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate the understanding 👍🏼 Thank you!!

@gordonchapman222

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iliketomakestuff YW 😊

Well done! Thanks for channeling the spirit of Norm.

I just bought a laser engraver 3 days ago, and it is SO MUCH FUN! I'm also in the process of building a CNC. I can't wait to have some fun with that as well.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome, good luck!

It would be a lot easier to make that sign with just a laser than just a CNC. The ability to make razor sharp inside corners is really useful. Also, you could start a signmaking business with less than $600 buying a large format diode laser, but $600 will not get you anything in the way of a large format CNC. Finally, the noisiest laser is quieter than the quietest CNC.

Wish me luck as I enter the digital maker space. I just got your fusion 360 tutorial. And I heard you said that if I need help you guys make house calls. Awesome! Make On my Friends

Love the way you do your sponsors!

Great vid! Don't forget to show love to your local makerspace... for folks that don't have the budget for lasers and CNC machines, or don't have the space or ability to handle smoke and sawdust, community shops are a great option to get access to these tools for a monthly fee. Not to mention that you'll meet people to collaborate and share with.

Beautiful project, and I love the PBS reference at the end, Anthony nailed it!

@AnthonyRose

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

He sure did.

3M makes an adhesive sheet that I attach to the back of my material before I cut it in the laser when I am making signs. The laser will cut through the material and the adhesive, and when I am ready to attach the letters I just peel the backing off the adhesive and stick it down. It's much easier than CA glue. The adhesive is called 3M 467MP Clear Adhesive Transfer Tape.

Great Video! Absolutely agree thats the choice is subjective, however from my experience in working in a university FabLab, most students tend to lean towards the Laser cutter which is easier to learn and really fast. CNC as a slightly steeper learning curve and needs more set up. So I would say that unless you know you want to cut thick material (over 1/4 inch ) then you are going to be quite happy with a laser cutter, which is what I personally recommend first due to its ease of use and versatility ,and even more so if you are a beginner in these technologies. Sign looks amazing! keep it up!

That sign is awesome! This made my day.

Always a good Thursday when ILTMS uploads.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad we can be part of your week.

Thank you for the quick intro!!

I just noticed G1 Perceptor on your desk. Awesome!!

You could have used the CNC or Laser to create recesses for the letters as well that would help with alignment and for better glue options. You could cut for example an extra set of letters, put them in the recess when you paint and then cut the paint, pull them out. And you would have the back of the good letters not painted, so you have 2 good surfaces.

Thank you so much for another great video!

Really appreciated the new yankee workshop vibe to the video *in norms voice* the most important safety rule is to wear these, safety glasses 😃

Honestly, one project I would be super interested in seeing is building a DIY CNC Router. I've watched so many videos, but nothing as well produced as your content. Really breaking down the process, laying out the parts, and showing the build would be a really cool video if you ever want to tackle it.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

oh boy. That would be hard for us because we aready have one and anything we'd make wouldn't be as good. There are a lot of makers that are currently doing it though. Two Cherries Instruments is building one.

@vgamesx1

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, by far the easiest thing to DIY would probably be to get a 3D printer such as an Ender 3 and convert that into a CNC rather than trying to find individual parts or whatever to outright build your own and if you need more space just buy/make a longer bed.

@ianbedwell4871

2 жыл бұрын

@@vgamesx1 as an importer of cnc I have seen a lot of horrible home made stuff. What must people just getting into cnc don’t think about is the side loading on the cnc bits and the ability to manage feeds and speed of the motor. Most use something like a Drexel tool for the little ones or a hobby router with maybe variable speed for the larger ones. Nether tool is designed for continuous use or for long runs and most suffer from premature bearing failure. I am NOT trying to say buy only, I have also seen some great diy ones but think very carefully about what you intend to cut and how often.

Very nice job turned out very well there. Very well explained videos. Hopefully he loves it. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Keep making. God bless.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@SchysCraftCo.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iliketomakestuff not a problem at all.

I. Love. The. Anthony. End. Voice. Over. It's a perfect nod to The Old Yankee Workshop!!!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

He says thank you.

So much good info in this video!

This probably won’t be seen but who knows, maybe. Bob, I run a couple lasers and you are doing yours a disservice with a weak extraction system and air supply. I run my air at anywhere for 50 psi to 80 psi when doing cuts and have smoke free cuts. This also allows the laser beam to work more efficiently if the smoke is displaced quickly. The extraction system helps with this as well.

I've been using a cnc for about three years. I agree it is more versatile and the way to start. I also agree that a laser would be a great way to complement the cnc.... in fact I just ordered a Thunder Laser USA-Nova 35-100watt!!

A comment about your editing, if you please. Love the vids. My comment is that it must take you forever to edit into the final product because you spend so much time laughing at the outtakes (or cringing at them). Keep up the great work. Love the variety of different projects you do.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

The guys save all my mess ups in a folder that they laugh at regularly

I had my CNC for a year before I bought my laser, since buying the laser 3 years ago I rarely use the CNC. I just love my laser.

I'm a Signwriter who works in a shop with both the CNC and a laser, and I would agree that you can use each for what they do best but they also allow just like the video to do collaborations using both

Looks so good. The colors are perfect

Nice sign! I need to get caught up on all the new Star Wars stuff...

Love the video, lots of great tips! Thank you. ☺ What solvent or adhesive would you recommend using for floating letter (made from color core) on an outdoor sign made of pine?

I've got a large CNC router, a small CNC mill and a 3D printer sitting here, and am fresh out of ideas for things to make. Guess I could try signs. :) Great video.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta put those robots to work.

@sanches2

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, mate plus an UR5e robot with a dremel on it:) I feel guilty every time i see some of them being sitting for a week unused.

Cool video, nicely done!

As usual, awesome stuff gang! That sign is an incredible piece. And I'm not even a Star Wars fan, lol. Wish I had access to CNC and a good laser like yours... I'd love to do a seaQuest decoration of the hammerhead like was on the bridge of the first seaQuest.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Josh loved that show!

@jdgindustries2734

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iliketomakestuff Best sci-fi ever!

@vgamesx1

2 жыл бұрын

Just search for a makerspace near you, I have one nearby which charges $50/m which gives access to expensive soldering gear and test equipment, as well as power supplies, lathes, milling machines, drill press, grinder, band saw and several other things, so yeah it isn't exactly cheap, but you know, unless you're doing quite a bit of work on something then it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend upwards of $1000 to own a nice machine when you can just borrow it.

@jdgindustries2734

2 жыл бұрын

@@vgamesx1 unfortunately neither space nearby has CNC, one has a laser, but only a smaller bed capacity. But normally I'd completely agree with your idea. Especially since I sit on the Board of Directors of one of those two spaces 😉😁

What a gorgeous project!

I laughed instantly at the intro seeing the sign and felt like Steve Roger's in Avengers "I get that reference". Used to always watch new Yankee workshop on pbs.

Nice job Bob! Thanks for sharing the video with us!💖👍😎JP

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you too!

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iliketomakestuff Your very welcome Bob! Have a wonderful weekend!😎

Shellac, plain old clear shellac, or the white shellac big box stores like to sell, is the best thing to seal MDF with a quick time drying and sealing properties

Lol my laser just came in the mail yesterday, couldn’t have timed the release of this video better

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Lasers are super versatile, it was a difficult decision to name one over the other.

I use a cheap HVLP spray system (£50 about $65) to apply paint and varnish to projects. You can apply in thin coats so quick to dry and a good finish. I've found water based works as good as oil based, so a big reduction in fumes and better for the environment. You can use big box store gloss paint (or DIY stores in the UK), so compared to aerosols it's much cheaper.

J’adore vos vidéos ! Merci !!! Pour couper du MDF, qu’est ce qui est préférable : une CNC ou le Laser ?

Nice sign, nice video as always.

What a fantastic result! I'm curious: how do you avoid the white residue that can show up when using CA glue?

That sign turned out great Bob! Hope that you are doing well & staying safe there with your family! Oh wait, you have SimpliSafe so of course you are your family are safe! 👍👍😉😉😂😂

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much

A note on tack cloths: the sticky stuff in them can cause issues with some finishes. There are ones specifically created for water-based finishes to avoid problems there. The default, if not labeled, is for oil-based finishes. Use the right one for the finish.

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.

maaan .. that was truly awesome! I like it very much.

Great video! For the color core: what bit, speeds, feeds, direction, cut depth did you use? Thanks!

I'll have to try the aluminum primer. BIN shellac has been my Frank's red hot primer for a while.

Oh this is awesome!! To keep with Norm's theme, you should start the video off with shop safety, and dont forget about safety glasses! Norm is a legend!!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Sure is.

I bought an entry level CNC with an optional laser. After a lot of thought I permantly mounted the Spindle motor and then made a bracket to attach the laser to the side of the z-axis. The Laser had a switch on it to disable it so I added a switch to the power wire to the spindle to disable it. So I could turn on the spindle or laser depending on what I want it to do. The only difference is the laser is offset from the spindle when it comes to setting it up. If I had a wider bed then I would add a second z-axis assembly to mount the laser so that it is easier to maintain and so that you can independly control the height of of the spindle/laser so you can move the device out of the way you are not using.

@tarawood-bradley2119

2 жыл бұрын

The idea of mounting both the laser and spindle on one machine at the same time is to make it easier to reconfigure the machine to do different work, instead of changing hardware and wiring I just have to change a few switches and then load in the code to run on the same system. All I need to do is change the starting position when I use the laser as it is offset from the spindle

I've been arguing with myself as to which machine I need to purchase, CNC or laser . . . After watching your video and knowing what my ultimate goals are; I need to quit trying to cut corners and purchase both! It's in my budget to purchase both machines, but I don't get thrilled about spending money LOL. After watching this video, you've once again taught an old dog new tricks! Keep up the great and informative videos!

@Iliketomakestuff

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

That sign is fabulous. I’d love one in my shop, but lacking the cnc and laser it’s going to be a long slow slog to get one. Unless it shows up as a physical good in the ILTMS Shop one day …

Lower your min power settings on your laser. The laser slows down in the corners and you're over powering the material with too much heat. That's why the corners aren't uniform and a tad burnt.

@otherdogdesign8666

2 жыл бұрын

While that is a good practice on lasers that use Lightburn as control software, he is using a Full Spectrum Laser and it has its own software that handles corners differently.

@anarablehill5691

2 жыл бұрын

@@otherdogdesign8666 I see. The lesson here is don't buy a laser you can't use Lightburn with. (or sponsored or whatever)

@1pcfred

2 жыл бұрын

@@anarablehill5691 yes always lock yourself into proprietary software solutions whenever possible. It's always the best!

Thanks for the video Bob! Do you have suggestions for CNC and or Laser Cutters?

While not quite as potent as Bob's dedicated laser, I found adding a small add-on JT Photonics 7w laser kit and Lightburn software to my Shapeoko 3 CNC gives me some laser options for far less money. Maybe someday I'll upgrade to a more serious laser unit.

Love the new intro tunes!

CNC over laser for sure. Besides what was already stated you can also add a drag bit and a diamond drag bit. These two will add the ability to cut cardboard and leather. And the diamond drag bit will allow you to engrave/etch into glass, aluminum, brass and acrylic. Fantastic sign either way.

Great sign, great video!

Great video. My long term plan is to have both cnc and a laser.