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In the Church I was involved in for 15 years , we never mentioned the tithe once. All we taught was to give out of a cheerful and abundant heart, and we never lacked anything.

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

You're in the first world. You have more than an average citizen of the world. How much did you feed Jesus and meet His needs around the world ?? Matthew 25:34-40.

@bobbychristopher8777

Ай бұрын

That's what should be taught because it's the New Covenant teaching

God loves a cheerful giver. That's the standard for Christians.

@User39.

4 ай бұрын

no ...but pastors do

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

Amen!

@paulfitzpatrick6566

4 ай бұрын

100%.

@paulfitzpatrick6566

4 ай бұрын

@@User39.Pastors do what? In my vast 28 years experience, few pastors reveal the Gospel heart of God in Christ to anyone, especially those for whom they are appointed Under Shepherds.

@stephensegal5187

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but He never said ANYTHING about giving 10% to an Apostate, Legally formed 501C3 Corporation that is under State rule..... I give a lot, but I give directly to the People that genuinely need it, I would never give it to any organized religious group.....

It took me forever to take to heart that there is no specific number to give and that God loves a cheerful giver. I still struggle with this, but having children has helped. The first time my son picked a flower for his mommy unprompted and out of cheerful giving, it started to click 😊

@RockyTopSplash

4 ай бұрын

Bingo! Read Mark 12:38-44... changed my life. It's not how much you give... it's HOW MUCH you give

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

​@@RockyTopSplashGive generously. But Jesus never said build a church building or give pastors money. They are required to WORK and support themselves. Jesus and Apostle Paul worked and Supported themselves !

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

​@@RockyTopSplashWhat does Matthew 25:34-46 say? A saved person does what's stated in verses 34-40. Or will He say to you "depart from Me"? Verses 41-46?

@RockyTopSplash

3 ай бұрын

@endtimesareuponus8930 🤣🤣🤣 who said anything about money at all?? You must have stopped reading before you got to "God loves a cheerful giver".. giver is not just money. Jesus died for the church.. he is the chief Cornerstone.. he wants a church built. Hebrews 10:25 Acts 20:28 2Corinthians 9:1-7

@endtimesareuponus8930

Ай бұрын

@@RockyTopSplashWho said? I said don't give a pastor money.

I am a member of a small church. I choose to tithe to help keep our church funded and able to give to Open Doors, Crossing Boarders Ministries and our three annual missionary offerings.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

KathleenFlournoy-hu3pk If you are calling to a tenth of your paycheck a tithe, you are entitled to that. However, the Bible says nothing about a tenth of your paycheck is a tithe.

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

Jesus tells us in Matthew 25:35-46 what He wants. He never said build a church building. Constantine started that.

@BibleTruth101

3 ай бұрын

There's nothing wrong with committing to give a certain amount to your church, such as 10% of your income. However, maintaining a tithing mentality is erroneous. According to Scripture, it only consisted of the produce of the land and herds (Leviticus 27:30 - 32). One of the dangers of tithing based on the law is believing that we are justified in the sight of God or cursed if we do not. This would mean that we are depending on our own works to save us and not our faith in Jesus Christ. Those who keep the law are a debtor to keep the whole law (Galatians 5:3 - 6)...and no man has been able to do so except Jesus Christ.

@BibleTruth101

3 ай бұрын

@@endtimesareuponus8930 That is so true. The church is not a building, but a body of believers.

@endtimesareuponus8930

2 ай бұрын

@@BibleTruth101 We are not under the Mosaic Law as Apostle Paul stated in Romans. In Romans chapter 2 he made it clear God will render to every person according to their deeds and many verses state we are to keep God Commandments.

The Law is now written on your heart. Give from your heart, that’s 100% ✝️👍👍👍

@endtimesareuponus8930

2 ай бұрын

Do you do that? No.

God certainly blessed me and my family after a layoff in 2001 where we had practically no savings and we were on the verge of losing everything, and my career was already pretty much dead in the water - I prayed and prayed like never before, and remembered Jesus said the Father would always provide - then God provided not only a job, but one in less than two months after the layoff, and one that's probably the most secure possible in these times (local government) and with some of the best benefits (including a defined benefit pension, which is rare these days). Still with this job today (2024). I took a pay cut at first (out of desperation when I accepted the job), but I've been reclassified a few times and received yearly pay increases, so now I'm doing better than ever. I say all that to say, YES, I will give the Lord all I can give, and my church is doing wonderful work to spread the gospel throughout the world and help orphans and others in need, to God's glory!

@reneeupdike2220

2 ай бұрын

Praise God and Thank you Jesus!💜

OUTSTANDING! I do not PAY a tithe, I GIVE a tithe and then some. I mean, He has blessed me more than I can account for and it's all His in the first place. It took me a while to get here, but I consider a tithe as a place to start my giving and am JOYFUL to actually see it being used to grow His Kingdom. It sure seems like the more I try to give, the more He blesses me. God has a much bigger shovel than I do! Seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness and all these things will be given/provided to you! YES!!! In my words: When I take care of His Kingdom, He takes care of mine.

@isaackamau2099

4 ай бұрын

That’s faith in action!

@Avenlane

4 ай бұрын

Sorry brother, but you have completely missed the point, God does not want your money, He wants YOU, He wants you to offer your entire life to Him as a sacrifice, you are trying to please God with physical (financial) offerings, He wants our _spiritual_ worship. [ Romans 12:1 ] Therefore I urge you, brothers, on account of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies *as living sacrifices,* holy and pleasing to God, which is your *spiritual service of worship.* THAT is how we, as New Covenant believers give our "tithe and offering" to God today.

@tomingram9982

4 ай бұрын

Aren’t you special, be careful though, you might choke on that pride

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

There is no biblical Christian tithe

@johndibert5509

4 ай бұрын

@@Avenlaneno he hasn’t I think maybe you have. If God cannot get control of your money he doesn’t have control of you either

I have been given 10% plus to support the Gospel for the last 33 years and have been blessed…..

@garyh.2487

4 ай бұрын

I have been given 0% to support the Gospel and have been blessed 10% plus! I know that sounds terrible but many unbelievers are doing very well financially.

@AJwoodway

4 ай бұрын

When we all stand before God nobody is going to be judged on the amount of money given or not. Heaven works on a different currency and that is where my concern is focused.

@johndibert5509

4 ай бұрын

@@garyh.2487unbelievers may do ok in this life, but they won’t in the next one

@HootakaBJ

4 ай бұрын

@AJ correct you will be judged on how you obeyed HIS WORD… oh wait … tithing is in HIS WORD

@temiongcecilio

4 ай бұрын

Do you mean "giving" instead of "given"?

How I appreciate your addressing a "touchy" topic with grace, understanding and knowledge. So grateful to have come across your channel and look forward to more of your teaching. Thank you.

God has blessed and has always taken care of me and I haven’t been tithing. It’s not a prerequisite for blessing.

@paulfitzpatrick6566

4 ай бұрын

Clear biblical doctrine. Fully agree.

@aaronspratt267

4 ай бұрын

Tithing is not connected to salvation because salvation is a free gift received by faith. But sowing financially into God’s kingdom is absolutely connected to blessings; there are literally scores of scriptures in both Old and New Testament to support this. For example, the apostle Paul tells us that everyone should give according to his income. I don’t believe that God is angry at Christians who don’t give; rather, I believe He is disappointed that such immature Christians are not providing Him an opportunity to bless them. I do recognize that the “prosperity gospel” has done much to harm true Biblical principles on giving. When God promises to bless us, spiritual blessings like God’s guidance, wisdom, peace, joy, and contentment are worth more than any amount of financial blessing.

@kennethreynolds8

4 ай бұрын

Well said.@@aaronspratt267

@jtu6866

4 ай бұрын

​@@aaronspratt267THANKS KNOW ITAL ALL. NOW GET OUTTA HERE

@aaronspratt267

4 ай бұрын

Very Christ-like attitude.

One of the best balanced teachings on tithing that I have heard.

Thumbs up. Thanks for a reasonable presentation based on good exegesis. At the end of the day we're inspired, not required. We're free to give, not bound to pay.

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Well said!

@Rita.jane1969

4 ай бұрын

My question to yall, why wouldn't you want to give back what is God's already? 10% that's not squat ,as to what He has Blessed us with!!

@2bituser569

4 ай бұрын

@@Rita.jane1969 The point is you’re not bound but free to give without compulsion.

@markb7067

4 ай бұрын

@@Rita.jane1969 Do you consider giving money to a church the equivalent of "giving to God?" If so, does that make the church your God? And is there any occasion in the Bible where God or Jesus ever asked anyone for their money? Jesus emphasized giving to the poor. There’s nothing wrong with tithing as a discretionary act of systematic giving, to a church organization or otherwise. The problem arises when people are manipulated by a false doctrine that claims that tithing is a biblical, universal mandate that requires everyone to continually pay 10% of their earnings to a religious institution. This is a false claim that exploits people, particularly the less fortunate, and those are the very people we should be helping, not exploiting. Nothing in the Bible binds the believer to pay 10% of their earned income to a religious institution for the rest of their life.

@Rita.jane1969

4 ай бұрын

@markb7067 you answered your own question! It is up to the person of how much to give, and to whom! God gives us discernment on the worship and the pastor who teaches! If it's Not Biblical run don't walk run! Myself I prefer to give back a tiny about of what God blesses me with! It's His anyway!! The churches I have attended always used it for building matenience and outreach programs! To answer your questions, No!! To church should be !! It is where we fellowship and praise God !, not the building or people! Have a Blessed day! P.S. that concludes my comments

You are a brave man taking on somewhat controversial topics! Awesome delivery and should bring up more questions. Growing in God's Word!

We give because we Love God, We don't always give to the church but we give to those in need. Sad to see a "pastor" live better than the majority of the congregation though.

@joycebegnaud9645

4 ай бұрын

Seems like the majority of them today.

@ebinrock

4 ай бұрын

Not in every case. I'm sure I probably make more than my preacher.

@waltj2647

4 ай бұрын

What do you got against that? Good living does not lead to eternal life, but the just shall live by faith according to gods standard. One of our preachers is a CPA(in the Winter), a Farmer(during growing season), and has a believing family his father is also a preacher. Me - I'm a clerk in a store, and have many needs,...why should that have anything to do with how look upon the preaching pastor?

@riverlady7023

4 ай бұрын

@@waltj2647 they might be talking about the preachers that are evangelist on TV that fly around in personal jets and I have $1 million homes but won’t give to the poor. Unfortunately, there are some that greed has taken over. That breaks my heart to see a little old lady (actually new one )who gave up so much of what little she had to a big mega church that does not even help the needy

@joycebegnaud9645

4 ай бұрын

@@riverlady7023 I agree

Thanks for sharing this topic, it’s much needed. Really enjoyed the video. God Bless you and you’re family 😊

Out of the abundance of what the Father has given us, so we should give to Him

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

God isn't limiting your giving by enforcing a tithe of which was for the levites since they were to serve in the priesthood as opposed to a land inheritance in the promised land of Israel

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

For those who claim to tithe: what is a tithe? How often do you tithe? Who receives the tithe? Please base all answers on what the Bible says, not your pastor etc.

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

Jesus tells us in Matthew 25:34-40 how to give to Him. Jesus is still hungry and needy around the world. How much do you feed Him, if Any ??

@endtimesareuponus8930

2 ай бұрын

And do you do that?? No.

@BibleTruth101

2 ай бұрын

@@mikewayne6608 ‼‼‼ That's the problem. They are being led by wolves in sheeps' clothing instead of studying the Bible for themselves. Most will go to their graves being biblically ignorant.

Brand new to the channel, always looking to bring light and truth to my feed! Looking forward to watching your other videos, thank you!

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

You are welcome. I’m so glad you are here!

Some people can’t always tithe, can’t afford to give 10% but I give what I can and when I can.

@listenup2882

4 ай бұрын

We can.

@winterpatriot1429

4 ай бұрын

Anna, if what you give and when you give, it’s with a joyful heart, that’s what matters. I believe it means more to God for a person who gives from the heart, even if it’s not able to be 10%, than the one who “tithes of all he has”, out of pride and boasting. Don’t worry about a thing. 👍 God sees the heart, and will bless.

@winterpatriot1429

4 ай бұрын

Oh, and by the way, it’s not always just giving money to the church. Giving can include helping the needy and those types of situations as well. If you had $20 to give, and chose to help someone in need, I believe God would be just as happy with that as if you’d given it in the offering plate. And who cares what others think, or if they even know. 👍

@ericmyers8005

4 ай бұрын

At the end of the day. It's between you and God and no one else.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

What is a biblical tithe? Who receives a biblical tithe? How often are you to tithe according to the scriptures?

You have, in my own opinion, a very thorough biblical understanding between OT and NT and therefore have gained a subscriber.

Good morning from Lone Grove Oklahoma, my friends! Great message as always. Have a blessed day

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! You too!

@winterpatriot1429

4 ай бұрын

Howdy, from Edmond, Oklahoma! 😄

Good job of explaining the New Testament priciples for giving vs. the Old Testament laws related to giving.

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Are you new to the channel?

Thank you so much brother. Many questions I had was answered!

excellent commentary, thank you

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I believed tithe should go the those less fortunate, such a widower and parentless children, etc. Because churches can often be more about staying open, paying pastors, choirs & musicians, and church bills (building funds, electric, water, etc.) that they are about the strengthening individual members knowledge and relationships with God.

@stroutma

3 ай бұрын

Very well said 👏🏽

@AlizaDasha

2 ай бұрын

Exactly Does God say to give to the poor or give to the rich??? Proverbs ... and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want. Quote " For Where your treasure is, there will your Heart be also" Jesus Proverbs 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord; James 2 Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? Luke 18:24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! Matthew 6 9 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For Where your treasure is, there will your Heart be also James 2 Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God Yes Jesus actually means needle and not door. 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this Craving that some have Wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs Philippians 4 11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content. 12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need Luke 3:14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some Coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows

@endtimesareuponus8930

2 ай бұрын

We stay away from church buildings.

Finally, TRUTH! Thank you for helping The Body of Christ come out of the bondage of lies perpetrated by lying pastors! The Lord Bless you, Brother. Always.

@john81566

4 ай бұрын

I don't think it's always lying pastors. It's so easy to want to just trash pastors. Many do not understand and they still believe that we are called to tithe.

@abelcharles4030

4 ай бұрын

@@john81566 “……they still believe they are called to tithe” Really? So, you are saying, justifying, that a Pastor goes by what he thinks the Scriptures are saying, and believing that which he thinks the Scriptures are saying? Really? So, you justify tithing as Scriptural? Not so, Brother. I’m not here to give you a lesson, you must study yourself, to show yourself approved by God((Scripture?) Most pastors are evil, robbing the Saints, contradicting Scripture. Briefly, and please do not take my word for it. Study it, yourself. Micah is of the old testament for the support of God’s priesthood expressing God’s people’s obedience. Please refer that Scripture and 2Corithians 9. We do as Scripture dictates, not what pastors think. Be blessed.

@abelcharles4030

4 ай бұрын

@@john81566 My apologies. The Book I am referring to in the Old Testament is Malachi 3, not Micah. My apologies. Old Testament= Old Covenant, which is no longer, save the Prophetic. New Testament= New Covenant, applicable now. Thank you.

@abelcharles4030

4 ай бұрын

@@john81566 I appreciate your response. But, if a pastor is called to do as they wish, and it’s not Biblical, then who or what are they receiving their doctrines from? Satan, demonic influences, or just their flesh? If it’s not of God then why teach/preach it at all? But, I sense you are defending not only this doctrine, but maybe a pastor you know, or your pastor. Sorry, Brother. Stand with God and His Truth or stand with false teachers and their lies. I pray your eyes will be opened. Amen.

@endtimesareuponus8930

2 ай бұрын

@@john81566 Wrong !!

Really very valuable information

Well taught my brutha!

This is the first video of yours that I've watched and I appreciate your general take on this subject. I have to add, though, that's there's 1 thing ALWAYS left out of giving discussions, including yours, and that's the poor. It's 1 thing to give 10% (actually less due to tax breaks) of a $100,000 income, choosing to live on >$90K, and COMPLETELY another to be disabled and living near the poverty line with extra health expense needs. Due to 2 TBI and more that is my lot. In the current church culture, only giving to the church seems to count, even though the Bible is replete with statements about helping the poor. And much of what's given to organizations is often wasted on overhead or spent on "help" that is more about "look how we're helping" than actually helping. There are too many out there giving their "widow's mite" (everything left after covering basics, and often doing without some of what 99% of Americans would consider absolute basics) yet are condemned because it's not 10% of their poverty level income. Please, don't act like the poor don't exist when you have these discussions, or that giving to them is somehow marginal compared to giving to the megachurch so they can get a new humongous video wall & sound system and hire a 15th assistant pastor of assistant pastor assisting.

I love your new channel. The way you explained the new Christian age what's awesome. I hope you talk about marriage and divorce in one of your lessons because it needs to be discussed. I would love to hear you preach at Northside Church of Christ someday. Best wishes to you and your family

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Where is the Northside Church of Christ? I would entertain an invitation 😉.

Excellent video! I’m a new subscriber.

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

This was a good message.

The Bible said, God loves a cheerful giver. Tithing was an old testament law New Testament giving is giving cheerfully from your heart because you want to bless God and everything you have came from God and is God.

@roshunepp

4 ай бұрын

This is the mistake most people make. Tithing was just after the garden of Eden BEFORE the law. Abraham tithed BEFORE the law. So tithing is not of the law. It's a principle like sowing and reaping.

@markleon4749

4 ай бұрын

​@roshunepp That wasn't a normal action though. He never did it again. Abraham I mean.

@russlong7175

4 ай бұрын

Agreed that the tithe was before the old testament law

Well said!

Good word!

From most of what you read, tithing is with food to feed those who have none. It does not say to GIVE IT TO the church, but on the first day to put back 10% so that in the end, nothing is needed. This is basically telling us to save 10% each week. This is my understanding of the words you read and showed to us. Not one word said to give 10% to the church. Give what is in your heart to give. Yes... but the rest has little to nothing to do with the church. This was also back when everyone grew their own food. I know of a homesteader wheee in her town they have what they call a blessing box, where they hit extra items at the store a s drop them off for those in need. Every little town needs these.

@joycebegnaud9645

4 ай бұрын

I seen them popping up all over where I used to live, I used to go put things in them all the time. Now where I live, I don’t see them. I think they are trying to start them here, but I saw a couple places with books you can get. Not sure if they have them in the larger areas, because I’m in a small town.

@KellyGordonUSA

4 ай бұрын

He was writing to the church, and they met and collected tithes on Sundays.

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

Paul never commanded anyone give a certain amount. The purpose of setting the money aside was to not interfere with the teaching in order to raise the money Paul was to bring to help the persecuted Christians in Jerusalem

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

​@@KellyGordonUSAno they did not they met on the first day of the week at that time according to Paul and the collection was a love offering to have Paul send to persecuted Christians in Jerusalem

@KellyGordonUSA

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelmerck7576 Sunday is the first day of the week. Sabbath, or seventh, is Saturday.

God gives me everything I am very blessed. It is the first 10 percent I take out of my paycheck and give to the lord. The windows of heaven have truly opened

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

It's good you were 🙌.blessed by your OFFERING OF 10 PERCENT. you weren't blessed because you TITHED

@T-Dubb

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelmerck7576you’re just wrong and you are trying to get others to believe a lie.

@childofGOD1962

4 ай бұрын

@@T-Dubb it has just been proven beyond any doubt that tithing is not a requierment under the NEW COVERNANT !! it is TRUTH

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

​@@T-DubbTithing is NOT an instruction to NT believers and tithing was Never money, even though money was used as far back as Genesis. What does Matthew 25:34-46 say ??

@endtimesareuponus8930

3 ай бұрын

God does Not bless someone for giving money to pastors. God commands All to work. Jesus and Apostle Paul Supported themselves. Pastors must also. If you give money to them, you're disobeying God.

Great explanation!

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you for the clarification.

You can never outgive God. We have what we have because of Him. Why would someone not want to give 10 percent of their earnings and have His blessings on their finances and their lives? Tithing came before the law and was not done away with. Tithing was never an ordinance against us, so it was not one of them that was nailed to the cross. It is our duty and responsibility as Christians to support our church we attend. People tend to overlook the fact that a church has to pay electric, phone, water, insurance, literature, Pastor's salary, buy supplies, etc. What if we only paid what we felt like paying on our household bills? Most of us would be reading by candlelight or, even worse, living as the homeless on the street having lost our homes. Two Christians from Arkansas

Great teaching! Many people count their tithes to the penny and that's it. "Now I've fulfilled my obligation towards God. " But this way we rob from ourselves the freedom to follow the Holy Spirit and give as He urges us. We shut down His voice by shouting over it "I'VE DONE MY SHARE!" But Holy Spirit wants us to follow Him even regarding giving. God bless You!

Thank you for explaining it very clearly!🙏

@thedowntoearthchristian

Ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Excellent 👍

Solidly reasoned from Scripture. I would, however, go one step further and say the giving on the first day of the week was for a specific "project" and also should not be created into a new "law" than condemns people if they don't do it. All our giving now should be in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. This gives people an opportunity to truly be generous BEYOND the letter of the law-"You have heard it said, but I say to you...."-and to give freely and with eagerness. Giving truly is a work of grace upon a new creature that overcomes natural selfishness.

Great Bible truths. I wish many churches would follow the New Testament standards of giving.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

Amen 🙌🙏

Intresting.Thank You

Loved the video. We attend a church of Christ here in TN and our preacher just did a sermon on this. Recently found both of your channels. You are doing a great work and my wife and I have enjoyed them. Please keep them coming. She wants a greenhouse now. Haha.

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Will you be at the FHU lectureship? Maybe we will run into each other.

@brianlawson983

4 ай бұрын

@@thedowntoearthchristian I won’t be there. I have heard a lot about it. Enjoy and thanks for the videos

I always pay tithing for years either to my church or to a needy person and do it with a happy and joyful feeling I get a blessing every time I look forward to the time of giving it

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

Well guess what,there is no requirement for an income tithe anywhere in the scriptures ,old or new testament

@kentuckybluegrassliving7718

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelmerck7576 you are mistaken - King James Bible - book second corinthinans verse 9-6 - maleachi 3-8thru 11 - genesis 14 verse 18-20 second Corinthian 9-7 proverbs 3-9 Luke 18-12 and many more

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelmerck7576 appreciate your comments brother. It's amazing how people use tithing and giving interchangeably. Ever notice that when people talk about giving, they hardly ever refer to the Book of Acts. Some of the people sold property and houses and laid the money at the Apostles feet and distributed the money per the peoples needs.

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

@@mikewayne6608 thr key word in giving is "freely giving with no compulsion from a cheerful heart and a thankful spirit

Thank you

Great explanation, and love the wood stove setup😊

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Excellent Teaching! It is the truth too!

Finally someone who actually gets it right concerning the tithe….tithe = 10% of the harvest of the crops and livestock (food). All giving is of the heart and as we PROSPER!!!……

No, tithing was part of the Old Covenant, for the Levites who had no land inheritance. Do not give out of compulsion, like your pastor urges you to do every Sunday (especially those that meet in a multi million dollar building/campus). If you are going to give, do it in cheerfulness or don't do it at all.

Many churches not telling the truth . God love a cheerful giver...

Thank you so much, you explained everything perfectly that I’ve been saying for years🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@thedowntoearthchristian

Ай бұрын

You are so welcome

Tithes were given to the temple. Levites were to distribute relief to widows and orphans aside from maintaining the temple. The Levitical priesthood was the government. Your taxes now are much more than 10%, so, if you give anything to a church it is a voluntary offering.

@warrenthompson2421

4 ай бұрын

Malachi 3:9. Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions.

@amyschaefer1140

4 ай бұрын

​@@warrenthompson2421 The tithe was always food. Never money. That verse was directed to the Levites who received a tithe and in return they were to tithe to feed the widows, fatherless and sorjourners.

@warrenthompson2421

4 ай бұрын

Mark 12 :41 And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting in Money into the Offering box. Rich put in large sums, the poor Widow put in 2 small copper coins ( Money Not Food ) @@amyschaefer1140

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

@@warrenthompson2421 this scripture has been abused too many times to strike fear into people to hand over their money to a church to avoid punishment for supposing to ha robbed God .this scripture must be read in context so you understand the people robbing God were the priests who would take the rightful tithed animals and crops for their own profit and switch the top of the land for things they wouldn't even give to their governor because of the poor quality

@AlizaDasha

2 ай бұрын

Scripture generally speaks poorly about being rich. Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. Proverbs ... and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want Revelation 3 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will Spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

My understanding of the giving under the law to God for His leaders to conduct business, it was as a tax we pay today to government for conducting their business. Giving to the church must be done and done regularly as Jesus said.

Thank you!

Good word

Tithing is not just money it's your time and also talent

@CounterAgenda1

4 ай бұрын

Tithing was seldom money

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

Under the law of Moses it was not money. Tithes were edible: livestock, crops, oil, grains.

@user-fg7er8ej9i

4 ай бұрын

@@mikewayne6608 That was then this is now

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

@@user-fg7er8ej9i what scripture are you using now to justify tithing for Christians today? Thanks

@user-fg7er8ej9i

4 ай бұрын

@@mikewayne6608 I am not a Christian I am a servant of the most high God

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@Kickmyapps

4 ай бұрын

Should I tithe if I am so poor, just eating is so difficult

@JamesCouch777

4 ай бұрын

What do you think about NDEs and UFOs?

@julienielsen3746

4 ай бұрын

It is amazing how many believers waste their energies arguing whether or not tithing is a New Testament doctrine. Tithing didn’t begin with the Law! According to Genesis 4:2-4, before the Law was ever given to Moses, Abel and Cain brought the firstfruits of their labor to God. Again in Genesis 14, we find that Abraham tithed-before the Law. But Old Testament tithing was just a shadow of what was to come. Although the Old Covenant saints were blessed through their tithing, we enjoy even greater blessings through our tithing today, because we bring our tithes to a High Priest, Jesus, who is greater than Melchizedek or any other Old Covenant priest (Hebrews 4-8)! But above all else, tithing is giving honor to God. Proverbs 3:9-10 says, “Honor the LORD with your possessions, and with the firstfruits of all your increase; so your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will overflow with new wine” (NKJV). It is such an honor and privilege to respect and honor our Provider with such a small gift as the tithe. That’s why tithing isn’t just a matter of the pocketbook. It is a matter of the heart. So, if you’ve been tithing as a religious routine, out of compulsion or without faith-that’s just bucket plunking. That’s not tithing. One who gives cheerfully is a true tither in the eyes of God (2 Corinthians 9:7).

@waltj2647

4 ай бұрын

@@KickmyappsNot if understand the New Testament! But if you practice one point of the Old Testament Law - then you’ll need to practice all of it. There is only one person that was able to keep the whole Law, and that was Christ Himself! It help you to try, and I it only proves that one doesn’t understand the Old Testament either if you try to keep it,…

@ilblues

4 ай бұрын

@@julienielsen3746 Paul wrote: "It is the hard-working farmer who ought to have the first share of the crops." 2 Timothy 2:6 ESV. How can that be if we're supposed to give the first fruits to Christ? Did Paul get it wrong? Or has the concept of first fruits been rendered obsolete by Christ? Aren't we supposed to GIVE ALL?!? Christian theology can be so convoluted with regard to our position and authority in Christ. For example, how often we proclaim "I am IN Christ". Well then, if you are IN Christ and Christ has fulfilled the law, then you by virtue of being IN Christ have also fulfilled the law. But you have to tithe! Really? I thought scripture said there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Why then condemn me for not tithing? I am IN Christ who fulfilled the law. If you are IN Christ, and the tithe is (ostensibly) brought to Christ, how then do you not RECEIVE the tithe? Or at least share in the tithe (take what you need, like they did in Acts 2 and 4)? It is by being IN Christ that we have and share in all the benefits and blessings of Christ. Yet how often does the vantage point of Christians change - when it comes to the tithe - which is a matter of the law - do we have to exit Christ to give it back to Christ and not take part in (share) the tithe? Are we IN Christ or not? If as required by Christ I give Him my all, why are we talking about the tithe which is a mere 10%? If our attitude is 10% for thee, 90% for me, then I dare suggest we are not in fact IN Christ - for if we are truly IN Christ, there is NO ROOM for such selfishness. There is only selflessness IN Christ. He has your all, or He doesn't.

Thanks!

I’m 63 years old. When I was about 10 there was a wealthy man w large business. He was asked one day if he believed in tithing. He said I do. I keep 10% and give God 90%. The guy was multi millionaire. I never forgot that.

I agree with your understanding of the Old Testament's Commandments and Laws (Works). When Christ died on the cross, He said "It is finished" ; He meant the Jewish beliefs of having to do Work to get to Heaven. That included paying tithing of money, the reaping of the sweat of the brow, and sacrifices. Paul came along and taught, through Christ, of giving gladly and freely accordingly. Here is where I get very perturbed with the leaders of many of the churches of today, you have to ask yourself, why do they feel they have the right to take their church's donated money for the needy, and instead, build mansions, buy expensive cars, wear designer clothing and have multiple homes in some very high priced neighborhoods or exotic vacation spots. The leaders, apparently, have so much extra money donated, that they have run out of those people who need help financially. There are no more parishioners in their church or neighborhood homeless widows and children any longer that need a helping hand. There are no more homeless people at all, that need a helping hand apparently, so they feel justified in taking the rest of the money for their own personal use. I think any and all church leaders should be fired when they start living beyond their standing with Christ.

@joycebegnaud9645

4 ай бұрын

There’s many people in need, the church chooses to look the other way many times, spending it for themselves and their family. Sad to see, but it’s happening so much today, and probably back then as well.

Tithing is not a new testament principal, it says we should give what we purpose in our own heart. The Bible says if you're going to go to the law you got to take the whole entire law. I absolutely believe in giving, but nowhere does he commanders in the New testament to tithe.

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Amen!

Thank you sir for this teaching. It just adds to show we are not still under the law of Moses.

Everyone likes to quote Malachi 3:10. They never read it. It is talking about food in a storehouse. The tithe was a command for the Jews in Israel. It was for the Levites. We are to give, lots of NT verses about that. Jesus commended the tithe, he was living under the old covenant. The new covenant began with his death, burial and resurrection. Good video. No tithe for today, but give.

This is a good explanation about tithing and to us to decided to give much more than 10% if we love God.

Tithing is showing our Father in heaven that you trust him for everything 🙏

@davidparker5345

4 ай бұрын

Nice but can you back that up with any bible? Your opinion is of no interest

@markferguson1338

4 ай бұрын

No it isn't. In the new testament we follow the apostles doctrine of giving to meet the needs of other brothers and sisters see acts2v42-47 and acts4v32-37

@davidparker5345

4 ай бұрын

That is charitable giving and no where is it mentioned as a tithe. @@markferguson1338

@stevesmith1493

4 ай бұрын

You mean paying the mob boss?🤣

@johndibert5509

4 ай бұрын

@@davidparker5345just common sense isn’t it?

We can give 10% because we love God and not because he is commanding us to do so. That's good insight from the Bible!

@bobgriffith1810

4 ай бұрын

Your under a better covenant. Jesus simply told the Pharisees that tithing is a matter if the law. The mosaic law said that blessings flowed according to obedience to the law , to fail in one is to fail in all.. tithe Is a numeric,, no more,, and not applicable under the covenant of grace.. Corinthians and Luke tell you all you need to know about Giving,, give sacrificially from the heart .. Remember,, you are blessed the moment you believe,, the quantum you give is not measured by a heavenly accounting system who then dispenses incremental blessing depending upon that quantum.. Jesus does not expect you to give up funding your childrens education, or your medical bills , or provide for a reasonable basic life that is not full of frivolous things..You have the Holy Spirit to guide you. Use it and remove fixations about quantums.. My pastor has a better life then me,, financially,, I know because I’m a Deacon who knows all of the churches finances.. in fact,, he takes supplemental stuff of tne membership giving to fund his kids college expenses,, pays zero taxes as well.. trust me,, he is Not the exception.. you are free in Christ and his yoke is easy.

@coreykeplinger3391

4 ай бұрын

@@User39. I'm sorry.

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

Then you agree Jesus never commands an income tithe .otherwise you are buying his free gift of salvation with filthy mammon

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

Terrible insight ,you can't get that insight from the bible because it never says anything regarding an income tithe for anybody ,Jewish or Gentile

@coreykeplinger3391

4 ай бұрын

@@michaelmerck7576 Yes I agree. Like I said, give 10 percent because I love him and not because he is commanding me to.

Very well explained, balanced. Christians we need to move in this dispensation with revelation.

I totally agree!

I love giving donations to my Church, but I don’t call it a tithe.

@MountainMan.

Ай бұрын

I'm the same way.

The “storehouse” is also obsolete. We are now to be spirit led givers. The church is NOT the middle man.

We love to tithe God has really blessed us. We get excited when we decide who to give it to. Usually where we been fed the best.

Very balanced.

I have been taught all my life to tithe and I believe we are commanded to tithe. And I read only the Kjv.

@zates2272

4 ай бұрын

Which scripture verse commands tithe in the KJV?

@derrickstrickland810

4 ай бұрын

we are commanded to keep the seventh day sabbath also, funny how we pick and choose.

@zates2272

4 ай бұрын

It is funny how we pick and choose when there is absolute Truth to live in… (absolute is not meant in a domineering tyrannical manner. More so an idea of love and mercy) part of the videos message was how Jesus can to fulfill the law which changed our lives into a New Testament mindset. Not abandoning Old Testament just changing mind sets.

@chriswilburn2730

4 ай бұрын

@@derrickstrickland810The sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday. The sabbath is part of the Old Testament law, and Christians have been freed from the bondage of that law. The Lord’s Day is the first day of the week which is Sunday. Rev 1:10.

@NigelM18

4 ай бұрын

​@chriswilburn2730 There's no evidence that the Lord's day is Sunday. You're just claiming Sunday is the Lord's day and quoting a scripture saying Lord's day.

Ok now i have questions. Why was the tithe ,animal and not vegtable accepted Now the first of produce, product, animals Also do we quession how the "church" uses it?

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

Lev 27:30

I pray for people to have the money to tithe. I pray over all increase, that we give to God what is Gods’ and to Caesar what is Caesar’s. In Jesus name amen. 🙏I pray forgiveness over debts. Past, present and future. 😊

Well said brother. Getting away from a religious type mindset has been a struggle for me and so many. It is a matter of the heart.

@thedowntoearthchristian

3 ай бұрын

@puddlejumper06 I’m glad you enjoyed the video. If you think our channel is worthy of sharing would you please share it with your friends and family?

I started tithing and my life radically changed within 2 days. The floodgates opened. God’s word never returns empty.

@ryankang1783

4 ай бұрын

God is not a vending machine. I have tithed all my life and I didn’t experience floodgates opened like you said. And I never heard people around me experienced floodgates blessings.

@mattgarr57

4 ай бұрын

@@ryankang1783 Tithing is the one thing in the Bible that God says to test Him. “Test me on this”, says the Lord. See if I won’t overflow your barns”. I started tithing for 1 reason… to be in God’s will. As a benefit, God fulfilled His promise and overflowed my supply. This started 5.5 years ago and is still taking place today. You should go to the Lord and ask him why you have not received.

@ryankang1783

4 ай бұрын

You need to understand the text in that historical background. The Israelites were under the Mosaic law and the Levites were told to not own properties or anything but rely on people’s tithing. But people were not following it. That’s why God told them that test me if I am not blessing you if you tithe. After Jesus completed the Law, we no longer under the obligation of tithing. We can still do offering from our cheerful heart.

@mattgarr57

4 ай бұрын

@@ryankang1783 I do understand it and I decided on 10%. I give with a thankful, cheerful heart, and I understand that the more we sow, the more we reap.

@neanam

4 ай бұрын

When Jesus went around healing and preaching did he collect a tithe?

I think it’s rather simple - we don’t tithe. But, we should [give] cheerfully. That said, there are many institutional churches out there today who still preach “tithing”.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Right to the point.

@michaelmerck7576

4 ай бұрын

And they get away with it because people don't read or study the Bible enough to see through this lie

You actually answered a question I had that wasn't about tithing but about the Sabbath

Very interesting, Yes God loves a cheerful giver. You are right on in you teaching so far. Quick question, I am planning a trip to Idaho in May for my granddaughter's gradation and if possible we would love to swing by your place to say Hello! Is that possible? If we are in the area. We will be staying in Pocatello.

I have heard that its not how much of MY money do I care to give to God but how much of GOD'S money do I dare keep for myself.

In Malachi 3 ot talks about tithing and that is not law. How will the churches survive without tithing?

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

free will offerings from the heart.

@markferguson1338

4 ай бұрын

It might surprise you that the early believers were not a church but a Christian ekklesia structured as a house group movement with almost no overheads. They practiced the apostles doctrine of giving which is to give to meet the needs of other believers. They certainly didn't tithe. This is a thread that is throughout the new testament

I give because I love God the Father, Jesus his son, and the Holy Spirit ,and I love to support him in all that He does to save as many as possible..

Give what you have been prospered, and be a cheerful giver.

Very good. However, the giving each Sunday (and meeting together) is a stretch because if you take 1 Co 16 in context, he is specifically talking about setting aside an offering for them when they come, so they can give it to the believers in Jerusalem that are in need. Contextually, this reads like a one time event, and saving up every week for that one time event so it isn't such a burden. It doesn't say that they should give to the church the first day of every week, but each person save up every week for the offering. Jesus and the Jews met together on the Sabbath (Saturday) which was the day set aside to rest and focus on the Lord. No, I don't belong to one of those religions that worship on Saturday, :) I just have studied the Word, and believe it is what Jesus and the early disciples did. I am enjoying your videos. Just wish we could have more interactive discussions about it.

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

I see you point but he says, "so that there will be no collecting when I come." If they saved it individually each week then there would still be a collecting when Paul came. If it was stored in a central location like the care of the elders there would be no collecting when Paul came. Also, the principle is have money set aside to meet a need when it arises. Paul's arrival was the "need" that needed to be met. Today, we have other needs that arise like benevolence cases, power bills, church building insurance premiums and so on. It would a fiasco to take a collection ever time the water bill came due, then again for the trash bill, then again the internet bill, then again for the electric bill, then again to help old Betty Sue with her car repair, then again for the preachers salary, then again for the ... ad nauseam. Hope that helps explain what I was trying to get at in the video.

@jeremiahchapman9288

4 ай бұрын

@@thedowntoearthchristian 1 Co 16 in context, he is specifically talking about setting aside an offering for them when they come, so they can give it to the believers in Jerusalem that are in need.

@debradiane3929

4 ай бұрын

@thedowntoearthchristian I see your point. Our church doesn't ask for a collection each week or even talk about collecting unless there is a special need. We simply trust God to provide, and each person gives when they want either electronically or dropped in a box. We always have more than enough to cover expenses. We meet on Saturday evening because it is more convenient for our community to have dinner together and then worship together. My point is that meeting and/or taking a collection on Sunday isn't a requirement of Christians.

Ok disreguard my previous comment. It has been fulfilled(explained fully).

“Then give back to Caesar what belongs to him, and give back to God what belongs to Him” (Mark 12:17).

All you need to worry about is whether you are giving the tithe that the Lord has told you to pay. The Living Word of God says that we are not to judge others. We do not know the circumstances. Just like the old widow that gave all she had. Do you really know what or why someone else is not giving as much as you? Your ten percent is different than your neighbors. When my husband and I finally grasped what the Lord was telling us on tithing, what a difference it makes. God in Heaven blesses us in so many different ways. Be content with what the Lord gives you. And as you grow in the Lord, you will want to give more. Whether it is money, time, talent, or whatever God has blessed you with. God bless you all.

Tithing is how churches get Rich! I don’t know if there is any accountability. 😊❤

@kr5289

4 ай бұрын

True churches don't get rich just those churches that don't preach true doctoring, and people will flock to just to make them feel good about themselves.

@jenniferlouk8312

4 ай бұрын

Accountability isn't up to us! God will handle those that mishandle what is His.

I was raised Catholic, where it was customary to tip a few dollars each Sunday. When I became born again, I learned about tithing and made a decision to do it. I was directed to the Scripture where God says to test him by giving a tithe. By doing so, God says I will bless you so much your storage room will overflow. I have to say, God has made good on his promise. After 30+ years of tithing and sometimes giving more, we have more than we need and meed a savings account to handle the overflow. Should we give because we're told to? Not if we don't want to give. We have gladly given our tithe, because we are so thankful for what Jesus did for us. And the fact that God fulfilled his Old Testament promise to us, we will forever be grateful!

@thedowntoearthchristian

4 ай бұрын

Help me understand. Concerning following the Law of Moses on tithing: 1. What precisely should we give 10% of? 2. How often should we give it? 3. Who specifically should we give it to? 4. Where is the location where we should give it? Please reference book, chapter and verse that support that practice.

@chrismedeiros3201

4 ай бұрын

​@@thedowntoearthchristian Am I going to Hell if I don't tithe? No. Am I going to Hell if I don't get baptized? No. However, like baptism is an outward acknowledgement of your trust in Christ our Lord, to me, tithing is an inward acknowledgement of your trust in God and his promises. God has been faithful to me regarding his promise in Malachi 3:10. So why would I want to question him for reasons not to tithe? Praise God! He is faithful to his promises!

We have never done without since beginning tithing 15 years ago. I have a testimony of this blessing.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

What exactly is a tithe according to the Law of Moses?

I give my time, my hands, my feet, my ear and heart as the Lord leads me. When I had money faithfully off the top. Now I am in different season, I still give. Also, I am always prayer about all things.

We are not required to pay a tithe, however tithing is still blessed by God. So yes we should give if we want the blessing. Also tithing is different from giving. Giving is on top of tithing.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

According to the law of Moses what is a tithe?

@bendaniels2726

4 ай бұрын

@@mikewayne6608 tithing or first fruits is mentioned all throughout the old testament.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

@@bendaniels2726 true. Do you tithe according to the old testament?

@bendaniels2726

4 ай бұрын

@@mikewayne6608 in regards to the principle of first fruits, yes. Meaning the first 10% goes to God.

@mikewayne6608

4 ай бұрын

@@bendaniels2726 What are first fruits literally? Give scriptures, thanks.

Tithing is re-inserting the law. It was never for gentiles.

@RSMR7.

4 ай бұрын

What? Churches cannot survive unless supported and we should give. Why wouldn't you want to give if you are a Christian 😢 Sad 😢 Luke 6:38 (KJV) Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

We have been tithing our whole married life (49 years) and we have always had our needs met. We are firm believers in giving God our first fruits. We give and trust God to meet our needs and He has never let us down in 49 years. We actually give more than 10%

New York City expenses, need to understand properly, thanks for message

@thedowntoearthchristian

3 ай бұрын

Which part?

@user-jm3kv8wf5j

3 ай бұрын

@@thedowntoearthchristian somewhere around 7:40 or something