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@itsDannyGG

4 жыл бұрын

Pastor Greg Laurie what about the scripture I think John 3:14 that says no man hath ascended to heaven but Jesus? I think that proves that no man or woman who has passed away has gone to heaven, but is in Sheol awaiting judgment day. (:

@1JAMINben

4 жыл бұрын

@@itsDannyGG he gave you evidence they're up there. That's Jesus said that before He ascended into Heaven. Now that He ascended, we can go to Heaven.

@1JAMINben

4 жыл бұрын

Pastor Laurie, what if instead of praying to the Saints, we asked them to pray for us? Since they're looking down on us, could we not ask them to pray for us in times of need as we ask earthly brothers and sisters to pray for us? I'm a Catholic and you basically described my belief. Except when we say we pray to the saints, it's not the same thing exactly as praying to the Lord, because when we pray to the Lord we see Him as the end, but when we ask a saint to pray, we expect them to go to Him with us in prayer. I dont think this contradicts the idea that Jesus is the one mediator any more than an earthly brother kr sister praying to the Lord for us on Earth does.

@matthewbroderick8756

4 жыл бұрын

We can ask the saints in Heaven to intercede for us, just as many in the early Church sought the intercession of mere human beings like Peter and Paul and their prayers and handkerchiefs and shadows, rather than going directly to the One Mediator, Jesus Christ, and not even death can separate us! The power of Jesus Christ works through the intercession of others, and the prayers of the just man, and women, ( especially the Mother of God who moved her Son and Lord to perform His first public miracle on behalf of the wedding couple, even though His hour had not yet come), have great power in its effects as James says. Peace always in Jesus Christ our great and kind God and savior, He whose Flesh is true food and blood true drink! You are in my prayers! God bless you!

@1JAMINben

4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbroderick8756 I like the way you think!

I love this message. Im struggling right now i would like to pray father god i pray for people who are struggling. And. A dark spirit who comes over people. Like me. I dont want theese thoughts. Amen. Have a nice day mr greg Laurie

@AnitaD28

4 жыл бұрын

What thoughts do you have? I’ll help you if I can.

Ecclesiastes 9:3,5-6,9,13 makes it clear that the dead know not nothing that is going on under the sun which is this earth. They remember their life and are aware of their current state but know not of current events here on earth.

@OnMyWaytoKorea

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Henson 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@savedbygrace1176

4 жыл бұрын

You provided the verse before I even searched it. Thank you for cutting my time in half. I'm believing some of these mega internet pastors dont know anything anymore and are just whoring to the likeness of the catholic church, like the daughters of a whore

@ashley_brown6106

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@dashriprock5720

2 ай бұрын

Ecclesiastes was written before the death and resurrection of Christ. I believe what was revealed to John in Revelation

Matthew 17:2-4 [2]There in their presence he was transfigured: his face shone like the sun and his clothes became as dazzling as light. [3]And suddenly Moses and Elijah appeared to them; they were talking with him. [4]Then Peter spoke to Jesus. 'Lord,' he said, 'it is wonderful for us to be here; if you want me to, I will make three shelters here, one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.'

@Nika02Violet

11 ай бұрын

Oh look at that... Our Lord talking(praying)to the dead (saints)

As a Catholic who was invited to the Harvest Crusade event by my Christian 12 step program sponsor, I was thinking of going because I thought it would be great to meet other Christians and feel the energy and love of a crowd that's on fire for Jesus, but my fear was that ecumenism would be non-existent and that there would be judgment and disdain toward Catholicism. I'm glad I saw this video and now know what Greg Laurie believes and preaches. What's more is the comment section; you guys really did it for me. Until we can all agree that we should focus on the similarities that make us all Christian rather than nitpick and be divisive, we're all missing the point. We get to the same answer, we just solve the problem given to us a little differently. I wish there was more love among Christians. I'll pray for you all. We Catholics pray for saints to intercede the same way we ask Mary the Mother of God to intercede. It's not worship, it's no different than asking a friend to pray for you. That's all. Prayer never hurts. It's either in His will or it's not meant to be. God bless.

It so obvious that some of the responding people here before me, did NOT listen to this video in it’s entirety. Randy address it at the very end... no, we do not and are not to pray to Saints.

Absolutely not. No where in the Bible have we been asked to do so. Jesus Christ taught us how to pray. *Our father who art in heaven......* ....And none of the disciples prayed to the saints.

@terriharris48

4 жыл бұрын

Very Christ-filled answer. I feel statues of Saints and Mother Mary are directly against the commandment of GOD, Thou shalt not worship any graven image.

@AmericanBerean

4 жыл бұрын

@@terriharris48 Yes, you are right, we must not worship any graven image. And, Catholics don't worship any graven image.

@AmericanBerean

4 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyshriner4362 Yes, they did. Archaeological evidence (writing on walls in the catacombs) shows as much. And the early Christian writings show it. Just as we ask fellow saints on earth to pray for us, we can ask saints in heaven to pray for us. This is not worship, it is merely petition. It is helpful for our spiritual growth. It's not mandatory, though, so if you don't feel right about it, don't do it.

@AnitaD28

4 жыл бұрын

Black White - disciples didn’t have saints yet to pray to you fool.

@AmericanBerean

4 жыл бұрын

@@AnitaD28 Yes, the disciples did indeed have saints to pray to. See Hebrews chapter 11, into chapter 12. A list of saints in heaven witnessing us in our earthly race of sanctification. The early disciples prayed to them (in petition) to get their prayers for us.

“Praying to saints” is an intentionally wrong expression used by non-Catholics in order to accuse Catholics of worshipping human beings. Catholics do not pray to saints. They ask them to pray for them, in the same manner as you ask your friends to pray for you. No difference, other than this: if saints pray for you, you probably have many more chances to have your prayer granted by God than if your friends do the same thing. Saints are much closer to God than your friends are. Asking saints to pray for you not only is biblical: it’s the smart thing to do!

@FriendofGod78

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment Jericho, I highly encourage my non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters to reread Jerichos comment over and over again. We don't believe in praying to anyone, except for God. We do ask the Saints in Heaven to pray for us to God, and it is literally the same as us asking those here on earth to pray for us. We are just asking for their interecession that is all. The difference is they are there with God, closer to Him, and no they are not dead, if they are with God, They are even more alive than we are right now. They have been perfected by God now that they are in Heaven with Him. God Bless.

Well, I'll go with Paul's teaching over modern preachers'. Paul says believers should pray for others (1Tim2) and that the souls in heaven are aware of us on earth running our race of sanctification (Hebrews 11 into 12). So, we here on earth ask our bretheren to pray for us, me, you, and even our bretheren already in heaven. That's what praying to saints is about, not in worship of them, but to ask them to pray for us. As James says, "the prayer of a righteous man avails much", and people in heaven are perfectly righteous, therefore, their prayers for us can gain much for us. Pax Christi, Dan

@ir7277

4 жыл бұрын

AmericanBerean all Catholics who pray to saints worship them, kiss their image, bow down before their statues, wear their relics for protection, total idolatry,

@RedWolf5

2 жыл бұрын

@@ir7277 So it was, as they were burying a man, that suddenly they spied a band of raiders; and they put the man in the tomb of Elisha; and when the man was let down and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived and stood on his feet. 2 Kings 13:21 [20] And behold a woman who was troubled with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment. [21] For she said within herself: If I shall touch only his garment, I shall be healed. [22] But Jesus turning and seeing her, said: Be of good heart, daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour. [Matthew 9:20-22] [11] And God wrought by the hand of Paul more than common miracles. [12] So that even there were brought from his body to the sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the wicked spirits went out of them. [Acts of Apostles 19:11-12] [9] And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held. [Apocalypse (Revelation) 6:9] [15] Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that when Peter came, his shadow at the least, might overshadow any of them, and they might be delivered from their infirmities. [16] And there came also together to Jerusalem a multitude out of the neighbouring cities, bringing sick persons, and such as were troubled with unclean spirits; who were all healed. [Acts of Apostles 5:15-16]

@iheartwatches

Жыл бұрын

@@ir7277 rather ignorant to say "all"

Only one Spirit to pray to - God. Even the Spirit Angel warned John * who was in the Spirit, not to bow. ( its in Revelation)

@AnitaD28

4 жыл бұрын

No one says you bow

The Catholic Church has the fullness of truth... Mary is the new Ark of the Covenant...carrying the Eternal Word of God...humble thyself...

There is only one mediator between God and man that is Jesus Christ.

Praying to the dead Luke 16:22-25 [22]Now it happened that the poor man died and was carried away by the angels into Abraham's embrace. The rich man also died and was buried. [23]'In his torment in Hades he looked up and saw Abraham a long way off with Lazarus in his embrace. [24]So he cried out, "Father Abraham, pity me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in agony in these flames." [25]Abraham said, "My son, remember that during your life you had your fill of good things, just as Lazarus his fill of bad. Now he is being comforted here while you are in agony. 1 Samuel 28:15-16 [15]Samuel said to Saul, 'Why have you disturbed my rest by conjuring me up?' Saul replied, 'I am in great distress; the Philistines are waging war on me, and God has abandoned me and no longer answers me either by prophet or by dream; and so I have summoned you to tell me what I ought to do.' [16]Samuel said, 'Why consult me, when Yahweh has abandoned you and has become your enemy? Acts 9:36-40 [36]At Jaffa there was a disciple called Tabitha, or in Greek, Dorcas, who never tired of doing good or giving to those in need. [37]But it happened that at this time she became ill and died, and they washed her and laid her out in an upper room. [38]Lydda is not far from Jaffa, so when the disciples heard that Peter was there, they sent two men to urge him, 'Come to us without delay.' [39]Peter went back with them immediately, and on his arrival they took him to the upper room, where all the widows stood round him in tears, showing him tunics and other clothes Dorcas had made when she was with them. [40]Peter sent everyone out of the room and knelt down and prayed. Then he turned to the dead woman and said, 'Tabitha, stand up.' She opened her eyes, looked at Peter and sat up. John 11:41-43 [41]So they took the stone away. Then Jesus lifted up his eyes and said: Father, I thank you for hearing my prayer. [42]I myself knew that you hear me always, but I speak for the sake of all these who are standing around me, so that they may believe it was you who sent me. [43]When he had said this, he cried in a loud voice, 'Lazarus, come out!'

Biblically if your praying to anyone other then our heavenly Father is committing basically idolatry. John 16 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. Unfortunately people have been taught unbiblical teachings that were man made but it's our job as children of God to direct them to the Father and ask in the name of Jesus. God bless you

@debrituashagrie5045

4 жыл бұрын

To deliver our prayers to our lord jesus christ

They know because they are still there. Christ brings his elect with him.

So interesting, I was just studying this! Thanks for sharing. I agree we should not pray to the saints. In my opinion I think those who have died are asleep. I would feel so uncomfortable if those in Heaven are watching my life. I see it more like a marathon. Think about this. When someone runs in a marathon, the friends and family don’t watch the whole race. They only watch the ending. Paul explains it as a marathon not a tennis match. In my opinion those who have died are asleep as Jesus said they were and they will wake up to the trumpet of heaven, the dead in Christ will raise, and we will meet them in the air for the day of Judgement. This explains how there is a great cloud of witnesses because they will rise first. Although I could be wrong. :) just thought I’d share my thoughts. Again thanks Greg! Good timing.

@calebgibson55

4 жыл бұрын

K Kr Thanks!

@AnitaD28

4 жыл бұрын

Paul calls death “gain” not because we become unconscious but because we become in the presence of Christ! We don’t sleep Jesus conquered death. Why would Satan himself be fighting for our souls if we sleep? That makes no sense. Wake up to truth. Living in darkness disgusts me no excuse for it.

@Pickup_man_1973

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 17:3-4. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is well that we are here; if you wish, I will make three booths here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah." Mark 9:4 And there appeared to the apostles Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men talked with Jesus, Moses and Elijah Paul said in 1Corinthians 11:1 “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ”. Do you imitate Jesus Christ? In Matthew 17:3-4, Mark 9:4, Luke 9:30 Jesus talked to Elijah & Moses from Heaven here on earth in front of the Apostles. 👈😳👇 Do you talk to the Saints from heaven like Jesus? Scripture On The Intercession of Saints Revelation 5:8 - And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

HOw did Jesus pray? Did Jesus pray to the Saints? when Jesus gave us the Lord's Prayer He didn't pray to the Saints but to our Father.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Жыл бұрын

Not sure how this would imply that a request for saint intercession is bad practice

@NotMister

Жыл бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 I follow Jesus not man.

@thejerichoconnection3473

Жыл бұрын

@@NotMister me too. What’s that got to do with asking somebody to pray for you? When you ask your friends to pray for you, are you “following” your friends?

@NotMister

Жыл бұрын

@@thejerichoconnection3473 Did Jesus ask friends to pray for him? Did Jesus ask dead people to pray for me? If so show me where .

where in the bible does it say to pray to anyone human? correct me if im wrong but are not to only pray to our Father in Heaven through the holy spirit? what a silly question... and whats with Catholics praying to humans that have died? utter ridiculousness isnt it?

@Cuau010

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome James 5:16 [16]So confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another to be cured; the heartfelt prayer of someone upright works very powerfully.

@Cuau010

4 жыл бұрын

Acts 8:14-15 [14]When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them, [15]and they went down there and prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit, Acts 8:24 [24]Simon replied, 'Pray to the Lord for me yourselves so that none of the things you have spoken about may happen to me.'

@radutomoiala6016

3 жыл бұрын

Miguel Guzman the key word in your quotes is pray “for” catholics pray “to” saints in order for them to pray to God for them

@iesusjr7

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus was a human, and than he died.

@Pickup_man_1973

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 17:3-4. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is well that we are here; if you wish, I will make three booths here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah." Mark 9:4 And there appeared to the apostles Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men talked with Jesus, Moses and Elijah Paul said in 1Corinthians 11:1 “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ”. Do you imitate Jesus Christ? In Matthew 17:3-4, Mark 9:4, Luke 9:30 Jesus talked to Elijah & Moses from Heaven here on earth in front of the Apostles. 👈😳👇 Do you talk to the Saints from heaven like Jesus? Scripture On The Intercession of Saints Revelation 5:8 - And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

If I’m in heaven I could care less what’s going on here on earth and by all means don’t pray to me or for me pray for yourself

@calebgibson55

4 жыл бұрын

gerard 😂😂😂

@gerard1954

4 жыл бұрын

RedTieAgent when I’m in heaven that’s gonna be all that matters the rest is up to the lord .

@AnitaD28

4 жыл бұрын

gerard - very selfish thinker. You apparently know very little about God. It’s all about others not ourselves. Heaven is about all of us here on earth. It’s about winning souls for God.

@gerard1954

4 жыл бұрын

Anita Luca I don’t deny that but once I’m gone the only thing that matters is the lord. That’s not selfish and to say I know very little about the lord is pretty presumptuous of you don’t you think ?

@enniomojica7812

4 жыл бұрын

@@gerard1954 if the Lord is all you will think about then you should be compelled to contemplate what the Lord contemplates which is.....THE SALVATION OF ALL SINNERS. So yes you would be selfish and also a hypocrite when you say you love the Lord.

How can one pray to the dead , for those of us , who are still living?

@AnitaD28

4 жыл бұрын

Dead are not dead.

*when you die, you sleep* They are not watching no one. “For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.” ‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭9:5‬ ‭

@Pickup_man_1973

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 17:3-4. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is well that we are here; if you wish, I will make three booths here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah." Mark 9:4 And there appeared to the apostles Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men talked with Jesus, Moses and Elijah Paul said in 1Corinthians 11:1 “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ”. Do you imitate Jesus Christ? In Matthew 17:3-4, Mark 9:4, Luke 9:30 Jesus talked to Elijah & Moses from Heaven here on earth in front of the Apostles. 👈😳👇 Do you talk to the Saints from heaven like Jesus? Scripture On The Intercession of Saints Revelation 5:8 - And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

@laetitia9652

7 ай бұрын

@@Pickup_man_1973That scripture did not say for us to pray to the saints though. So where does Jesus say for us to pray to saint?

@Pickup_man_1973

7 ай бұрын

@@laetitia9652 where in the Bible does it say everything has to be in the Bible? That fake doctrine of Sola Scriptura was invented by Martin Luther

Wrong title to the video. This video doesn't address this question

There's also the 24 Elders bringing the prayers of the Saints to the father in Revelation. Also in 1st Corinthians 13 Paul talks about seeing and knowing fully after he meets God, but only partially on Earth. I wish I could give a half like because you prots Are finally starting to figure out the communion of the Saints. Once you realize that prayer is simply asking and asking a saint to pray for you is perfectly fine, You will finally understand what the body of Christ is and how it exists in heaven and on Earth at once.

@b11jiral63

2 жыл бұрын

I wish many heretics will be converted to the one true faith after reading your defense

Can we pray to saints or should we pay only to Jesus? It’s not either/or. It’s both/and. Because we are one body of which Christ is the Head, all prayer - whether it’s my prayer on earth or the Virgin Mary’s prayer in heaven - goes to the Father through the One Mediator Jesus Christ. Catholics and Orthodox have a fuller, more robust understanding of the Communion of Saints than our Protestants friends do. Videos like this give me hope that they will continue to listen to the Holy Spirit and enter more fully into God’s revealed Truth.

All of us are Saints. They ain't special and they ain't apart of my relationship with God. Only person who I pray with is the Holy Spirit

@AmericanBerean

4 жыл бұрын

We are all saints in the context Paul used the word. But only those who are in heaven are victorious Saints. Asking them to pray for us is good, since any father likes when his kids help eachother and God is the perfect Father.

@PeedyJ

4 жыл бұрын

Scripture please?

@AmericanBerean

4 жыл бұрын

@@PeedyJ Ah, that begs the question: Did Jesus and the Apostles intend that all Christian doctrine be explicitly written down, compiled in a single book, to be the complete deposit of the faith, the source of all Christian Truth?

@AmericanBerean

3 жыл бұрын

@Last American If that's the case, then that idea itself is part of Revealed Truth and therefore must be found plainly taught in Scripture, since Scripture is the sole source of Revealed Truth. SO, where is it found in Scripture?

@hellenicboi14

2 жыл бұрын

No, you are not a saint. The saints are those who give their entire life to the lord, which I am sure you don't.

I am sorry but if the dead can see us that is not the heaven the Bible speaks about. If they can see us they are not at peace knowing we are going through trials and diseases. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. 6 Their love, their hate, and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun. 7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do.

Jesus said praying to the dead is necromancing I agree. We should also not pray to Catholic saints. Saints are not appointed by the Pope. Jesus also said The Dead Know Nothing. PERIOD. I will take the word of Jesus Christ over this guys speculation. The end. When in doubt go with the word of Jesus Christ.

@martinaarodriguez100

4 жыл бұрын

He said no we absolutely do not pray to the saints..Very true we only pray to Our Father

@MuleShark

4 жыл бұрын

@@martinaarodriguez100 Yes. I agree👌. The gentleman was speculating about the rest.

@Cuau010

4 жыл бұрын

Well Jesus talked to Elijah and Moses Matthew 17:1-3 [1]Six days later, Jesus took with him Peter and James and his brother John and led them up a high mountain by themselves. [2]There in their presence he was transfigured: his face shone like the sun and his clothes became as dazzling as light. [3]And suddenly Moses and Elijah appeared to them; they were talking with him. Luke 16:22-31 [22]Now it happened that the poor man died and was carried away by the angels into Abraham's embrace. The rich man also died and was buried. [23]'In his torment in Hades he looked up and saw Abraham a long way off with Lazarus in his embrace. [24]So he cried out, "Father Abraham, pity me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in agony in these flames." [25]Abraham said, "My son, remember that during your life you had your fill of good things, just as Lazarus his fill of bad. Now he is being comforted here while you are in agony. [26]But that is not all: between us and you a great gulf has been fixed, to prevent those who want to cross from our side to yours or from your side to ours." [27]'So he said, "Father, I beg you then to send Lazarus to my father's house, [28]since I have five brothers, to give them warning so that they do not come to this place of torment too." [29]Abraham said, "They have Moses and the prophets, let them listen to them." [30]The rich man replied, "Ah no, father Abraham, but if someone comes to them from the dead, they will repent." [31]Then Abraham said to him, "If they will not listen either to Moses or to the prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone should rise from the dead." Revelation 8:2-4 [2]Next I saw seven trumpets being given to the seven angels who stand in the presence of God. [3]Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. A large quantity of incense was given to him to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar that stood in front of the throne; [4]and so from the angel's hand the smoke of the incense went up in the presence of God and with it the prayers of the saints.

@MuleShark

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cuau010 what's your point

@Cuau010

4 жыл бұрын

@@MuleShark. it's the answer, Moses and Elijah were both "Dead" when he spoke to them, Abraham knew exactly what was happening with the rich man and Lazarus, our prayers are heard from the dead. I can even put more for example when Jesus descended to the depths of hell to preach to the spirits. Your pastors say when you don't know how to pray just talk to God that's pretty much praying, talking is praying so with that being said Jesus told Lazarus to get up when he was dead also the Apostle St Peter told Tabitha to get up so there's that

And I remember for years you Protestants used to say Oh Martin Luther hung up his 21 thesis on St Peter's door and we kept telling you for years it wasn't St Peters it was another church finally after what what 40 50 60 years I don't remember how long you finally got it right I asked two Protestants who were bragging about Martin Luther's thesis if they've read it and they said no they sound like the Democrats remember we asked him if they knew what was in that bill Obama's health Bill and they said no and here they're bragging about Martin Luther's 21 thesis and they don't know what's in it I don't think they better read because there's things that he agreed with the Catholic Church first of all your first pope Martin Luther believed in infant baptism oh yes he did and other things you're not going to like so you're following Catholic monks you hate Catholics you have a Catholic for your first pope he was fully Catholic when he was making the changes your Bible is named after a king a man and you claim that we follow men I can go on and on it's unbelievable your religion is unbelievable it's not from God at all and you're going to find that out a lot of you are starting to inch your way back to the Catholic Church there's been many pastors and even Protestants have come over to the Catholic Church look at the coming home network that's all from Protestants they were all pastors and they started the coming home network because they're coming back to the true church the home Church the Catholic Church

I think people in heaven can see us. I will have to see in the bible book of life

@PeedyJ

4 жыл бұрын

Scripture please?

@Pickup_man_1973

Жыл бұрын

@@PeedyJ Matthew 17:3-4. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is well that we are here; if you wish, I will make three booths here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah." Mark 9:4 And there appeared to the apostles Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men talked with Jesus, Moses and Elijah Paul said in 1Corinthians 11:1 “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ”. Do you imitate Jesus Christ? In Matthew 17:3-4, Mark 9:4, Luke 9:30 Jesus talked to Elijah & Moses from Heaven here on earth in front of the Apostles. 👈😳👇 Do you talk to the Saints from heaven like Jesus? Scripture On The Intercession of Saints Revelation 5:8 - And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

So the dead are in heaven, yet when Jesus comes back he's going to "resurrect" the dead and take them back to heaven again. Yeah, makes sense.

@networthassoc2006

Жыл бұрын

Their bodies. You’re not just body. You’re mind body and soul

Every Catholic begins and ends their prayers in the name of the Father Son and HolySpirit, using the sign of the cross. Therefore any request of St.prayers are going through our heavenly King. Our King can handle all our requests and He can handle His Saints in heaven.

Praying to and worship are two different things. Prayer is a form of communication, I pray to our Lord Jesus all the time, I ask for guidance and perspective. I also Worship our Lord Jesus, who is King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. St Paul says: But we would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning them that fall asleep; that ye sorrow not, even as the rest, which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also that are fallen asleep in Jesus will God bring with him.-1 Thessalonians 4:13-14. The comparison of death to sleep is that a metaphor that reveals life after death. When you are sleeping you are alive, and just like Jesus who died ( fell asleep) shall resurrect (wake up), we too if we believe in Christ Jesus. The Saints in heaven have died ( fallen asleep) and through the power of Jesus Christ rise from the dead ( wake up ) and are participants in the Body of Christ. We are One, Holy, catholic ( universal), and Apostolic Church. Do not worship the Saints in heaven, but fear not your petition to them, who will seek the power and wisdom of Jesus Christ, "On earth as it is in Heaven". May all the Saints in heaven hear our cries and petition the Lord Jesus Christ and raise up new Saints on Earth. As a practicing Catholic, I appreciate the wisdom shared by Pastor Greg and continue to hold him in prayer. Peace to your spirit! Peace to your Spirit!

@boobunga6198

3 жыл бұрын

Prayer is worship. You are lying to yourself. You can literally GOOGLE the definition of worship. There is no excuse. Stop lying to yourself and to God himself. Thank you

No pray to Mary, oh wait, to saints, well who. Jesus made it clear didn’t He ?

@cynthiax56

Жыл бұрын

saints are not dead. the protestant "reformers" are dead

A Protestant prophetess picked me up in her Taxi I told her there are three foods in the Bible one the food that us humans eat the supernatural food Mana the Angels eat and the spiritual food I said if you use this make sure you give a Catholic the credit I know she didn't this proves it's in the Bible it says there is a spiritual food that's Holy Communion he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood I will raise him up on the last day he is telling you this is resurrection food something you call a symbol but you call almost everything a symbol and your marriage is an arrangement wow that's crazy no wonder why you're divorcing like drinking water in fact they say you're divorcing is more than public they've studied the Protestant Evangelical divorcing and you claim to be Christian

Do your prayers work? Maybe it's time to try something else

When I was a catholic my prayers were answered with lightning speed whenever I prayed to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

@IlLAD3LPH1A215

4 жыл бұрын

k odu so who answer you Mary or satan ..because you said when you were a catholic what are you now???

@daniell5740

4 жыл бұрын

Catholic Mary is a demon lol ask any witch/warlock

@trommelbiel

4 жыл бұрын

@@IlLAD3LPH1A215 Now Pentecostal. Indeed God does answer prayers through the blessed Virgin Mary. I have been a beneficiary.

@IlLAD3LPH1A215

4 жыл бұрын

k odu my friend no one answers but Jesus no one ...Mary was human like every one else

@savedbygrace1176

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry but your prayers where sent to a dead person who knows nothing and were interceded by satan and demons, thus answering your prayers

Well the guys in the video are proving what I have always said, that the more you read Scripture, then the more Catholic you will become. All through the Old and New Testament we can learn about the Angels interacting with humanity in some form or another. Jesus tells us that when we get to Heaven that we will become like the Angels, in fact, even greater than the Angels. So if you believe what the Bible says then there can be no argument that Saints can intercede for us just as the Angels do, because God said so. What more is there to discuss?

Praying “to the saints” means, to ask the saints to intercede for us.

Of course we can ask the Saints to pray for us. They are part of the body of Christ. James 5:16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working. Once again the Catholic church is right again.

@rbnmnt3341

2 жыл бұрын

Tony Tony, the bible is right. Not the church.

@ironyusa3885

2 жыл бұрын

@@rbnmnt3341 Not to say the authorship, rather the preservation and compilation of Scripture are due to the Church. If you can't trust the Church, you can't trust scripture... The Church and the Bible are not in conflict.

@rbnmnt3341

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironyusa3885 you are so wrong. Scripture does not say Catholics or the church had anything to do with God's word. If you can't trust the church you can't trust scripture? Wow, that's almost blasphemous. Your church is the one that says they gave the bible, scripture says nothing to that effect. Your church doesn't preserve anything. In fact it perverts God's word. Most of what your church teaches is not found in scripture. That is why your church teaches and believes that not everything has to be in the bible. Isn't that convenient doctrine? I wonder why it teaches that. As I said, nothing your church teaches is biblical. The church and the bible are most certainly in conflict.

@israelisthechosen

Жыл бұрын

Confess your sins to one another. Those in heaven sin? Are they confessing to you?

@richardkramer4076

Жыл бұрын

@@rbnmnt3341 The Catholic Church existed before the first word of any gospel or letter of the NT was even written...by members (and saints) of the Catholic Church. And it was the Catholic Church that canonized the bible in the 4th century. Apparently you don't read the Bible you think is the only source for the word of God. You seem to have little understanding of what the bible actually says. The Bible never claims to be the only source someone needs. In fact it says that we should hold fast to the oral traditions that were taught in addition to the written scriptures (there was only one church teaching the oral traditions for a thousand years) Protestants love to overlook or make excuses for 2 Thess 2:15. And the Bible says the CHURCH is the "pillar and foundation for truth" and it becomes clear you don't understand the Bible you profess to believe in. (1 Tim 3:15)

I asked the Saints to pray for me God showed me that one time he had seven Saints and I knew every one of them and I asked them to pray for me each one and they made the sign of the cross and they started they closed their eyes and they started to pray for me now there was one saint I just sensed in my spirit that she wasn't Catholic it was kind of confusing for me she had a beautiful colored sort of a rainbow colored dress on and the lord gave me her name and then I saw the word Protestant saint so I asked her to pray for me she first made the side of the cross and then she started to pray for me I was shocked I never knew there could be such a thing as a Protestant saint I told somebody I knew about it and his mouth dropped open he believed me but he was shocked also God shocks us sometimes and he's about ready to shock you Protestants a lot there's only one True Religion one true faith and one true church and that's the Catholic Church and he promised the Gates of Heaven shall not Prevail against his church you guys weren't even around then you came 1553 years later everything comes in threes in the Bible there are about 265 threes in the Bible that includes three christianities Catholic Orthodox and the Protestant protesters don't forget who was the first protester Satan

This is why Luther had to change the canon because he didn't agree with it. Sola Scriptura but only the scriptures Luther likes

Call me crazy... But I've thought about this "praying to the saints" thing many times. My theory is (I could be wrong, been a lot before, but just as a thought provoker), the catholic church is the devils dirty little secret. He knows the only way to God is through Jesus, yet he has gotten people to believe (in the masses), if you pray to Saint this and Saint that or to Mary that you will go to heaven. This might also explain why the catholic church had such a problem with child molestation (it's the devils work). The devil is loving it and people are still buying into it. Just my thoughts...

@Pickup_man_1973

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 17:3-4. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is well that we are here; if you wish, I will make three booths here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah." Mark 9:4 And there appeared to the apostles Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men talked with Jesus, Moses and Elijah Paul said in 1Corinthians 11:1 “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ”. Do you imitate Jesus Christ? In Matthew 17:3-4, Mark 9:4, Luke 9:30 Jesus talked to Elijah & Moses from Heaven here on earth in front of the Apostles. 👈😳👇 Do you talk to the Saints from heaven like Jesus? Scripture On The Intercession of Saints Revelation 5:8 - And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

YES, WE PRAY TO THEM TO HELP OUR PRAYERS TO OUR LORD JESUS.....THEY LOVE US , THEY PRAY FOR US........WE PRAY FOR EACH OTHER.....LIVING OR DEAD.......UNTILL THE DAY OF THE LORD

@trailbadger2345

4 жыл бұрын

Chapter and verses from the Holy Bible on that idea, please.

@daniell5740

4 жыл бұрын

Bible says dont speak to the dead

@aisthimatiasthiva

4 жыл бұрын

PK in TN YOU DO WANT TO SHOW YOU LETTERS FROM THE BIBLE ?OK.... 2 Corinthians 3:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. SAINTS ARE PRESENT IN OUR LIFE WITH THOUSANDS OF MIRACLES TO BELIEVERS AND TO NOT BELIEVERS .....THEIR BODIES ARE STILL ΝΟΝPERISHABLE AND SCENTING AFTER 50 , 100 OR 400 YEARS , BLESSED BY GOD.... GOD LISTENS TO THEM JUST LIKE HE LISTENS TO HIS MOTHER MARY..... SAINTS HAVE OFTEN WARNED PEOPLE ABOUT BAD INCIDENTS OR DISASTERS.....GOD BLESS YOU....

@daniell5740

4 жыл бұрын

@@aisthimatiasthiva you are literally putting words into that verse lmao. That verse has nothing to do with dead saints. Go back to read scriptures mate

@daniell5740

4 жыл бұрын

@@aisthimatiasthiva Ecc. 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten 1 Chronicles 10: 13- 14 So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse.

Oh and one more thing your pope Paul Crouch and God told me he was the pope of the Protestant faith he said these words exactly it's wine and that settles it follow your pope it wasn't grape juice

This is sort of laying a foundation for entry level praying to the saints and Mary. I rebuke it. The Bible never says we should pray to anybody in heaven other than Jesus. We cannot ask any saints in heaven. They aren't omnipresent. We have full access to God in Jesus name. God does not share his Glory with anybody at all.

@jenex5608

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

You pray to saints to intercede for you, as they are much closer to God and have all the means and leverage as they are already in heaven. If you ask somebody to pray for you, you are actually doing exactly the same.

There was a pastor out here in Sunnyslope Arizona that was extremely anti-catholic he had his own radio program well the Lord showed me one time that there would be Protestant churches coming into the Catholic Church so I told him that and he just laughed well it happened it was a Pentecostal Church it was African-American I can't remember if Chicago or I think it was Detroit and just about the whole church decided to come in and join the Catholic Church they were doing a class on finding out which church was the true church and it kept coming up Catholic out of their Bibles so I let him know and he started screaming on one of his programs God's using nobody's God's using nobody's there isn't any nobodies in God's Army

@mattprice443

Жыл бұрын

Only place Catholic Church is shown is revelation 17! The Vatican

Saints don’t pray for us is a lie. Jesus is the one praying for us. The saint only aske God when will it end but they get no answer. Not even Jesus know the day or the hour.

Don't pray to Saints. JESUS is the only meditor between God and man THE demons will enter you I was delivered from many False religious demons I prayed so much to blessed mothrr . I signed out of the hospital as the blessed mother It wasn't me but that demon manifested itself. I had many demons delivered out of me Praise the Lord!😊 .

Greg laury does not have a clear theology. Specially and mainly in the area of salvation.

Sure...this little 'talk' totally fits with Roman Catholic ideas of 'prayers to the saints' -- but scripture clearly states "Prayers OF the saints". (Rev 8) The RCC has to prove that this is scriptural because of their many practices involving prayers to Mary, etc...I think Randy is 'streeeeetching' scripture to prove an unproven. Scripture says...Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is "joy in the presence of the angels" of God over one sinner that repenteth....Not that there is joy in the presence of the believers of God. Clear--distinction. You will never find a prayer to the 'dead' in scripture--other than Samuel...and doing this via witchcraft is not what God would allow. God is the only one that hears prayers...period. Php_4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. (Not the saints).

A Big No!!!

@Pickup_man_1973

Жыл бұрын

Matthew 17:3-4. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is well that we are here; if you wish, I will make three booths here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah." Mark 9:4 And there appeared to the apostles Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men talked with Jesus, Moses and Elijah Paul said in 1Corinthians 11:1 “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ”. Do you imitate Jesus Christ? In Matthew 17:3-4, Mark 9:4, Luke 9:30 Jesus talked to Elijah & Moses from Heaven here on earth in front of the Apostles. 👈😳👇 Do you talk to the Saints from heaven like Jesus? Scripture On The Intercession of Saints Revelation 5:8 - And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

Do you remember when you Protestants would jump on us about having our prayers formed all those are formed prayers prayers of worship that you repeat and are scriptural you call them formed your prayers are not scriptural and they are formed oh God give me another Mercedes-Benz and some more Rolex watches and a bunch more $5,000 suits that you're robbing your flock

On your call no man father it's talking about call no man father God there was a cult on television this wasn't a movie they were calling their leader father God this is what Jesus meant called no man as you're calling them Father God also in the New Testament the apostle was talking to the other apostles and he said I address you fathers this proves you guys were full of your Protestant holy baloney again

The roman catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ

@b11jiral63

2 жыл бұрын

Amen, ViVa La Iglesia Catolica✝️🙏

@lupelo8819

Жыл бұрын

Jesus church is a spiritual church.The catholic church is an earthly church.

@andreeattieh2963

Жыл бұрын

@@lupelo8819 the Catholic church is a gift from God

@lupelo8819

Жыл бұрын

The Roman catholic church is not the church of Christ.-Matt.16:18...,and upon this Rock I will build my church;...JESUS SAID "MY CHURCH"...IT'S JESUS CHURCH,NOT PETER'S.EPHESIANS5:23-30...even as Christ is the "HEAD OF THE CHURCH":AND HE IS THE "SAVIOUR"OF THE BODY.THEREFORE AS THE CHURCH IS "SUBJECT" UNTO CHRIST,...EVEN AS CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE "CHURCH"AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR IT.THAT HE MIGHT SANCTIFY AND CLEANSE IT WITH THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD,THAT HE MIGHT PRESENT IT TO HIMSELF A "GLORIOUS CHURCH",NOT HAVING SPOT,OR WRINKLE,OR ANY SUCH THING;BUT THAT IT SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.OR NO MAN EVER YET HATED HIS OWN FLESH,BUT NOURISHETH AND CHERISHETH IT,EVEN AS THE LORD THE "CHURCH":FOR WE ARE MEMBERS OF HIS BODY,OF HIS FLESH,AND OF HIS BONES.ALL BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS IN CHRIST IS HIS BODY THE CHURCH CHRIST BUILD ON THE ROCK HIMSELF. CLEARLY...CLEARLY IT IS CHRIST CHURCH AND NOT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC(PHYSICAL,STRUCTURE) CHURCH.IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CHRIST CHURCH FROM THE BEGINNING.

@andreeattieh2963

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@@lupelo8819 history shows that the Roman Catholic church is the one true church The Catholic church made the Bible and I've read the Bible many times and found no contradiction to the teachings of the Catholic church