He picked the worst pitcher to make a point of entertainment. Watching Barotolo hit is one of the most fun thing to watch lol.

I personally like the two leagues being different.

@MNsportsnut

5 жыл бұрын

Amen. I enjoy 2 different styles of Baseball myself. If there's 1 thing I'd change, it's play Regular Season Interleague games by the League rules of the Visiting team. Gives fans an opportunity to see how the other game is played. Keep the World Series the same though.

@LALAKERSHOW

4 жыл бұрын

There’s pitchers that just go there to not swing and take 3 pitches, to me thats fucken bs, u got hitters in the bench wishing they could make the line up training there asses off just so a guy that don’t wanna swing takes his spot

@ethancbaker2002

3 жыл бұрын

@@LALAKERSHOW then teach them to bunt or hit the ball 😂

@ethan3949

3 жыл бұрын

Boring asf

Mad Bum is right. Guarantee guys like CC wouldn't be mouthing off if they had to worry about getting drilled.

you should have to play both sides of the field in baseball

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

Tell that to every relief pitcher the league. Should we put them in the batting order? Every team in both leagues already has 6/7 part-time players on every roster. Most relief pitchers haven't been in the batters box or even held a bat in years. Why is that okay, but the DH isn't? Plain & simple, the DH is better baseball.

@moegerms

7 жыл бұрын

lettersfromhelen - ever heard of a double switch you fucking idiot ? God damn that was the dumbest shit I've heard.

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

Of course. How is that a response to relief pitchers not hitting. That's the point. Are you dense?

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

People who are against the DH use the argument that a baseball player should play both sides of the game and that the DH is just a part-time player because they only hit and do not field. My point is that relief pitchers have been used as part-time players since their existence, since they only pitch and never hit. Same difference, but a double standard.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

lettersfromhelen not every dh is a part time player some teams like the yankees use the dh to give certian position players time off from the field

Ripken's argument makes no sense... NL should have the DH because what if an AL team visits an NL park fighting for a playoff spot? Well, there's thing called the WORLD SERIES (some pretty big games, ya know) that have been playing by the home team's rules ever since the DH was in the AL.

@JuniorKoolAid

9 жыл бұрын

Very true, I feel like they should make it where the the NL only uses the DH on Sunday or weekend games and during the week the pitchers hit. Something of that sort, like a part time DH or something like that to spice up the game. But idk about you but the dodgers starting staff can hit some balls hard (i.e. Kershaw, Grinke, Ryu)

@christopherjohnson1873

9 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking maybe give the home team of any given game in either league the option whether to use the DH or not. I don't understand how this is so much of a barrier that it's stopping us from playing more interleague games.

@Beltran15x

9 жыл бұрын

No you are missing the point. What he saying is if Red Sox are tied for the last spot on the last day. They have to either olay without Ortiz or with a defensive liabilty and have a pitcher that can't hit. While, the other AL teams are in full force.

@christopherjohnson1873

8 жыл бұрын

Beltran15x The other AL teams have also had road interleague games. They have had to go through the same problems for an equal number of games. If the Red Sox team is set up so that they can't handle it, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

@Beltran15x

8 жыл бұрын

Christopher Johnson You are still missing the point. The first game of the season and last game, count the same. That does not make them equal in value. The season is won and lost in the last months of the season. That's where it is not fair. Because you have to play with a disadvantage during the most testing of times.

Wait until the DHR (designated hitter robot) rule takes effect.

I grew up a Reds fan- we have a history of pitchers who were decent with a bat.

The NL certainly has more strategy involved, and as a baseball fan I love it.

@President.ballsdick

2 жыл бұрын

What strategy waking the 8 hitter to get to the pitcher

@bravesatlfan

Жыл бұрын

@@President.ballsdickSay the home team is down 1-0 in the sixth inning, runners on first and second with two out, what would you do? Leave the pitcher in because he’s dealing, sacrificing the scoring chance, or pinch hit and put a better bat in at that situation.

That's the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. Why don't we have nine guys field and nine different guys bat for them. Injuries are apart of the game. No matter what you do players will always get injured.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

17phillyfan players will always get injured but its the job of the mlb to make sure there aren't unessecary risks to players

Since there are so many people who both love and hate the concept of the DH it's best to have one league have the rule and the other not

Pitchers are ball players too

As a newer fan, (my dad is a die hard Giants fan and ever since I went to college I became friends with a bunch of big baseball fans, so I’ve started getting into it and this is my fourth year now as an active Giants fan) I love watching pitchers have to hit. I’d rather see a pitcher get a single then some slugger take one deep. Watching pitchers hit not only is just very intuitive to a casual fan, but it create unique and exciting moments to cherish. I know it’ll eventually happen but I’ll be greatly disheartened the day the NL has a DH.

@SoparlaX

Жыл бұрын

so are you disheartened?

Different rules regarding the DH can affect competitive balance. An AL team can offer a free agent like Bryce Harper more years than an NL team with the expectation that he’ll DH bear the end.

How is Bartolo Colon swinging the bat not entertaining?

@keithcrane3490

6 жыл бұрын

Because it is pathetic and unprofessional.

@redemptionz5012

4 жыл бұрын

Noel López shut up

@vanderponds

3 жыл бұрын

No one wants to see that fatass hit

I like that there is the DH in one league and no DH in the other league. It makes people like David Ortiz have a better position and allows pitchers who want to hit be able to.

i always liked that the NL was kind of small ball, and the AL was about power...they should not only keep it how it is...but EMBRACE it...its cool that the NL and AL are so different!! Think of NFL ...AFC vs NFC...they were different when it was AFL vs NFL but now...? Exact same thing...NBA, East vs West...?? No difference

@JDMatthias

4 жыл бұрын

The AL is allowed to rest players that the NL doesn't allow. And while the DH rule allows players to keep swinging the bat on days of rest. It's more about leveling the playing field now than having 2 walks and a strikeout at the back end of the lineup card.

@mbdg6810

4 жыл бұрын

i see it as an arbitrary difference. I dont mind the difference , but its just off seeing the game played differently just because of whatever league it is . I agree there should be differences within the leagues/conferences , but not by having a gameplay mechanic not available to the opposition. But about the comment with nba... there is a difference between east/west conferences because of region alone. west isnt east lol.

What I'd like to see is the DH be an option for a pitcher. If the pitcher likes hitting, even if he's bad at it, he should be able to bat for himself. The reason they need the DH isn't that pitchers can't hit, but because teams need to allow flexibility and allow players to get at bats while giving them a rest. I don't really like players being able to completely sit out all year and just hit. I do like the idea of a guy like Christian Yelich being able to keep his hitting streak alive by taking his day of rest by being a designated hitter a couple days out of his streak. What do you think?

With the pitcher coming up you force the manager to adjust his strategy. Like your arm can be amazing that day.. but in the end your team has to score more runs than your opponent does.

@SoparlaX

Жыл бұрын

so the decision is automatic

Everything about this aged well except “we don’t need to see bartolo hit”

Being a Tampa Bay Rays fan, I obviously like the DH. That being said I actually like the fact that the two leagues have different rules. My problem is why do we have the two leagues playing each other during the regular season? In my opinion AL teams should play AL teams and NL teams should play NL teams. THAT'S IT! The only exception to that would be if two teams are in the same state for example Miami Marlins Vs Tampa Bay Rays, Los Angeles Dodgers Vs Los Angeles Angels , New York Yankees Vs New York Mets ect. Other than that the only time the NL team faces an AL team is in the World Series. That would make the All-Star game that much more important because which ever league wins would get that "Home Field Advantage" along with having the DH rule working for or against the two clubs.

@cosmokramer4703

8 жыл бұрын

It's because the Astros moved to the American League so now the leagues have 15-15 no 16-14. There was inter league play prior to that but it didn't happen until 2nd week of May and they only would have a series like, five times. I think baseball should remain the same. Bill Ripkin has another agenda as to why he wants the DH

@TB-wn9xk

8 жыл бұрын

+Midnight Reggie I understand that the Huston Astros are in the American League now, what I don't understand is WHY? Why did MLB feel the need to add any NL team to the AL simply because they wanted interleague play all year round? That's stupid in my mind because then what's the point of having two separate leagues to begin with? If everyone is just battling everyone else why not just get rid of all the divisions and just say that the top 8 teams with the best record play each other in the playoffs and be done with it? It takes away from the All-Star Game and World Series in my view. If any team from NL had to go back to the AL it should have been Milwaukee not Huston. No matter how you look at it, it doesn't make since.

@cosmokramer4703

8 жыл бұрын

+MCUTB94 100% agree with you. And I think they should also remove the replay review. Also you should be able to crash home plate aswell

@SuperStrik9

8 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. As a Jays fan I love the dh but I don't want it in the NL. I prefer the dh and apart from seeing a better hitter, the dh also extends players careers. Just look at guys like Edgar Martinez, David Ortiz, George Brett, Paul Molitor, Carl Yastrzemski. That said I like the more traditional style of the NL as well.

Speaking out of both sides of their mouth. You can't at the same time claim that the AL is losing its best players when playing in NL parks, and also claim that DHs won't make a lot of money because it is just a way to let every day players get a break from playing the field. It is either one of the other, can't be both. You are supposed to play both sides of the ball, that is the point of most sports, play offense and defense (obviously NFL football being an exception)... in certain circumstances being horrible at one side of the play and great at the other may balance out, other times it may not... but that is the point of sports... if we have to dumb down the sports for the lowest possible IQed fan, then we may as well just turn everything into monster truck rally's and professional wrestling. Want to solve the inter league problem. Get rid of inter league play... Inter league play is what ruined the all star game and why we have to have the STUPID WS home field rule to make it remotely interesting. The idea was, after the 94 strike to make multiple inter league series a year, they sold it as "having 13 world series every year" The problem being, that cheapens the actual world series! Everything baseball has done to market itself to more fans has only alienated the fan base it already had. The DH has been around too long in the AL to get rid of, but for chrissake KEEP IT OUT OF THE NL GAME!!! LET ONE SIDE STILL PLAY REAL BASEBALL!!

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

mooseot whats the point of real baseball if you lose an ace because he aint use to swinging a bat or running the bases

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

mooseot you realize every other major and minor pro baseball league on this planet has adopted the dh. You a minority. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few

"Dosn't the 8 hole hitter know the pitcher is behind him? Where's the strategy in that?" Wheb that 215 average 8 hole guy is taking his free base, and Jim Thome comes out of the dugout to hit for the pitcher, that is called strategy. Maybe this guy should study baseball a little more, dosn't seem like he knows the game to well.

Maybe the question should be, should the AL abandon the DH like the old days!!

@keithcrane3490

6 жыл бұрын

The AL has absolutely nothing to gain by putting a .125 hitter in the lineup, which is what NL pitchers batted in 2017. NL pitchers only get 1 sac bunt a week per team, and the double switch is routine and boring. Stats show that the AL non-pitchers bunt as much as the NL non-pitchers, the AL steals as many bases as the NL, and uses relief pitchers as early and often as the NL. So you are not getting much extra strategy in the NL at all. It is certainly not worth losing all the extra strategy you get by getting more baserunners from the #9 slot in the order in the AL.

Shohei Ohtani just blew Ripkens what if what if what ifs out the door about having a DH. AL should get rid of the DH.

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

You need 75 starting pitchers in the NL and 75 in the AL. Ohtani is only 1. If you had 149 others like him, or even half that many, then there would be no need for a dh. But in 2017, NL pitchers batted only .125, so it is obvious you do need a dh for pitchers.

I guess the best position player hitters shouldn't have to play the field then, because they could get injured on the field?

@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Johnson injuries are part of the game. Suck it up buttercup.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Johnson th dh in the nl is as inevitable as electric cars becoming the mainstay of automotive transportation in the world

I mean it would be great for the NL because on some NL teams they have some bench players that can really hit or play defense. Like Bill Ripken said. Implement the DH in NL because so the good hitters can focus on hitting, than having to play defense all game and give a bench player a chance.

I’m very happy with the DH in NL as Giants fan :). The pitchers only pitch no bat. Ohtqni is a phenomenon, the regular pitchers can’t hit.

the black guy looks like he wants to fight somebody today lmaooo

I love baseball and am a dedicated fan who is a traditionalist. My true opinion is leave baseball the way it is alone. (DH in AL, No DH in NL). Reason: this gives an opportunity for good hitting pitchers a league to play in and non good hitting pitchers a league to play in. However, like every good idea in every buisness, consumers may not like change. Baseball is a buisness so we as fans (consumers) may have to embrace changes and will adapt accordingly. My opinions on solutions to handling of the DH is this (if adopted bc its an idea to theoretically to produce more product, runs, which alot of fans, the consumer, wants): 1-Leave it up to each individual manager who they want to hit, a DH or the pitcher. or along with this Let 9 guys hit and let the manger decide who is the weakest link for the day and DH that hitter. 2- Leave the DH rule (DH for pitcher) to Home team manager whether its going to be implemented for the game) 3- Loose DH in AL (each player in game is responsible/accountable for the production if the offense.) 4- Leave the game alone. Every baseball fan knows the rules the way they are and are fans because of the diversity of the different league lineups. All in all, im for leaving it alone. But if the decision is to change, I hope its made with the interest of the fans and done correctly.

I agree with mr. Ripken., another thing is that pitchers batting can get hurt and if there is a DH in the NL the pitchers can focus on pitching like in the AL and if there is any good hitter and can´t play defense because of the age or any hurt that player can be DH and the team can have the bat of the player, in the other hand the pitcher batting makes the manager to have more strategies at the moment of getting a PH. I am undecided I would like everything stays like it is because it makes basseball special.

What about true universal dh, dbr and df. 9 designated hitters, 9 designated baserunners, and 9 designated fielders including the pitcher, plus 9 in the pen? Have to protect the hitters from baserunning injuries, and protect fielders from bei g plunked.

Have the DH all around, except for the pitchers that can hit (Ohtani). IF he is taken off the mound, he's eligible to stay in the batting order as the DH. Also, if you're adding the DH, I would say to get rid of the AL and NL. Just have 3 division 10, and all every team to face each other. Currently your facing your division 76/162 games, that's insane. In the past it made sense, but now, come on.

A few things I haven't liked about the DH. - Loss of the double switch as a part of strategy - The DH can be a shelter for guys who are good power hitters but can't field worth a lick. I think back on Luzinski later years with Chicago, late-career Mike Piazza, Dave Kingman, and Manny Ramirez. All productive hitters for sure but a bit...erm..lacking defensively. I find it a bit annoying that these guys got a regular place in the lineup while only playing half of the game. - A.L. pitchers can throw at opposing hitters without fear of eating lace themselves. It should be a two-way street in that regard. - Yeah, most pitchers suck at batting but who didn't love seeing Bartolo Colon's home run or when Rick Sutcliffe launched one back in the day? I don't think DH should be gotten rid of, though. I'm used to it as an A.L. feature so I would just keep things the same.

@transitny

5 жыл бұрын

I'm 41.

So do the best batters not have to play the field for a chance of getting injured now?

@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou

6 жыл бұрын

jack jon injury is part of the fucking game. Deal with it.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

The Executor so you'd risk losing your ace to an injury that could be completely avoided ok go be crazy somwhere else

@notoriouseagle1074

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou No we will not. Injuries can be avoided.

@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou

5 жыл бұрын

VMan29397 yeah it’s part of the game.

Bartolo Colon is the GOAT.

I believe the NL will adopt the DH rule, its coming whether you like it or not. Besides I think it will add more thump to the NL Lineups c'mon now.

So the climax of the game is offense? MLB needs to get it out of it's head that the fan's favorite part of the game is the long ball. I'm ok with with the American League having the DH exclusively; just don't pretend that the game is only about offense.

I dont like the idea since I think all players should hit. I do understand the idea of trying to prevent a likely bad at bat but some pitchers are good hitters. I also dont like that 90% of the time it's only pitchers that are called bad hitters when SOME infielders aren't good hitters. Wherever you stand I respect your opinion.

I don’t mind being either way. I’ll leave it up to someone else I can’t make a decision.

No good damn no, the national league doesn't need the DH. If you all are so obessed with the DH just watch the American league. They could always let the pitcher hit and have a DH. If I recall correctly the NCAA has it like that or did.

Why does no one care that all of the relief pitchers & closers never hit? It's okay to have one-dimensional players if they are pitchers, but if they are hitters (which is much more difficult to do successfully) it is a big problem and not "real baseball"? That makes no sense. How many at-bats did Kimbrel have when he was in the NL or Chapman when he was with the Reds & Cubs? I could list hundreds of NL relievers who never hit, but that's okay? It's hypocritical to use that argument that every player should have to hit and play the field. AL pitchers don't have to bat, so there is no repercussion if they throw at a batter? Same could be said for every relief pitcher in the NL too if that is a point you're making. Like Ripken said, the DH is coming to the NL; might as well embrace it.

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right: in 2016 the top 8 closers in the NL combined for 537 games and 305 saves without once stepping into the batter's box. Also, I say you can't be playing real baseball with one position batting .135 with a strikeout rate of 39%, which is what NL pitchers did in 2016.

@nagatamen5150

7 жыл бұрын

I think that interleague play is just stupid if you only play one division, I actually like the difference between the two leagues. I enjoy watching my teams pitchers hit in interleague (I am a Mariners fan) but I also like seeing the NL teams use the DH when in the AL ballparks. But if you are going to have interleague match ups play like the NBA and NHL where every team plays each other or only play against teams in your league.

@pumagolfer8299

7 жыл бұрын

The reason Kimbrel and Chapman never hit is because they are closers. Closers usually get the last outs of a game, so the game is over before they can even think about hitting.

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

I know, Ben. The point is that we have no problem with the specialized players that just pitch and don't hit, why such a big deal about the players that just hit & don't field? Hitting is the hardest thing to do in baseball; it above all else warrants specialists.

@pumagolfer8299

7 жыл бұрын

lettersfromhelen I guess you have a point but the best explanation I can come up with is that hitting is considered the more "fun" part of baseball and defense more as a chore of that makes any sense. We tend to nag DHs because it seems selfish to just hit and not field, but in contrast fielding/pitching and not hitting seems unselfish we tend to give them a break in that regard if that makes sense

The first half of a baseball game is more exciting in the AL, because the pitcher is not hitting. But the second half of the NL game (when the game is on the line) is MUCH more exciting than the AL.

Bring it. It's dumb not to have it. It's in the minors and college ball. Japanese and Korean leagues have a DH. You ask NL pitchers and the majority of them HATE hitting. Everyone by one set of rules.

Solution........no DH. You only have 8 batters......and the pitcher doesn't hit. After the 8th batter.........you can go back to the 1st batter. Problem solved. Now the team can have the pitcher hit if they chose too. They can pinch hit for them too.

@ginzod

7 жыл бұрын

Well......you'll have 9 players for each team........ not 10 right?

@BeefPapa

7 жыл бұрын

ginzod doesn't work. the game is played in multiples of 3. 3 outs, 9 batters, 9 innings, 27 outs.

@ginzod

7 жыл бұрын

Does work... .. Nobody can say anything. 8 batters will work fine. Let the teams have a choice....you can do it that way with 8 batters or it's your choice if you want your pitcher to hit ....he can bat ninth. Plus you can pinch hit for him. Teams can choose either way.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

ginzod no it doesn't just dh and if pitchers can hit let them dh in their off time

Bill just hit it on the head with the wildcard situation. Detroit couldve been using V-Mart instead they had to play the Braves

@lebron5760

7 жыл бұрын

Ryan Casey LMAO exactly what I thought when he brought it up, V-Mart coulve been the difference in my opinion

Bill is correct it’s about time they change

YES ABSOLUTELY!!!!

It's entertainment. Nobody wants to watch a pitcher strike out on 3 pitches over and over again

@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou

6 жыл бұрын

Jack Hope only absolutely terrible hitting pitchers strike out on 3 pitches. Someone pitchers can get hits. But there is no reason y the dh rule is a thing.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

The Executor if they can hit they can dh on their off days

How about giving your pitchers batting practice

Arguments against the Designated Hitter rule: The DH seems to receive an unfair advantage. The other batters all take the field each inning, standing out there in the heat readying themselves to catch the ball with every pitch. This must take a toll on a person. The DH just sits in the dugout, resting. Part of the ritual of baseball is the defense taking the field. It’s exciting. But now, one stays behind and sits on his backside. The DH hurts the ritual. Football has a platoon system, but every offensive and defensive player takes part in it. With baseball, the DH is the only one. It’s incongruous. Also with football, it’s not practical to have a guy out there all game because of all the physical contact. You don’t have that problem with baseball. Baseball offense is not specialized. Every player bats. In football, there’s specialization. One guy throws, a few guys catch, a few run, others block, others kick the ball. Some never touch the ball. So having offensive and defensive specialization doesn’t seem odd because the sport is specialized by design. With baseball, again, it’s incongruous because on offense everyone bats and on defense everyone tries to catch the ball.

Ripken is wrong about the Phillies owner going fishing in 1972. That vote was in 1979 at the NL owners meetings. Philly wanted the DH because the had Greg Luzinski, a great hitter but a defensive liability.

stop having inter league games at the end of the year

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

Has to happen every day of the schedule with 15 teams in each league. Can't have two teams not play every day...

No. Real baseball players play on the field and with a bat. AL needs to get rid of the DH.

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

Most relief pitchers never bat, so they must not be real baseball players either.

National League came before the American League. Therefore, get rid of the DH.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

themightyjake it aint leaving

@davidfloyd9861

5 жыл бұрын

Yes get rid of it.

pitchers hit in high school in nyc

If the DH was around in the 20s The babe would have never hit 700 homers. I know i'd wanna hit if I was a pitcher

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

DeusVult! He would have had 658 still a shit ton

As a fan of baseball why not?

It's not real baseball if players don't play on both sides of the field. You could make some shit argument about relief pitchers or something, but adding a DH to the NL wont change the answer to that.

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

Since most relief pitchers don't bat, then according to what you say, you are already not playing real baseball in the NL . So the DH does not convert real baseball to unreal baseball. So since neither league is playing "real baseball", it is better that we do it with a dh than with a .125 hitter in the lineup, which is what NL pitchers batted in 2017.

When is this going to happen???? The only pitchers that can somewhat hit are Greinke and Bumgarner

@al1976-v7m

3 жыл бұрын

deGrom is a pretty good hitter, too. But then again, he was a Shortstop before he became a pitcher.

Just because the 8 hole hitter knows that the pitcher is behind him, doesn't discredit the strategy of it.

Baseball never should have created the DH in the first place. Pitchers in both MLB leagues should have to take their turns at bat just like the everyday players do on a baseball team period.

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

Relief pitchers don't bat. Why are they excused (in both leagues)?

@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou

6 жыл бұрын

lettersfromhelen because they get pinched hit for dumbass.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

The Executor pitcgers bat.175 so exciting if any other player was batting that you'd yell and rant to have him taken out but because this is the "pure" form of baseball its perfectly fine if he overextends his elbow swinging and he is out fo 5 weeks

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

But they must actually bat or else they are no more versatile than a dh. It doesn't matter why they don't bat. Your principle that everyone must play both sides of the ball has been shattered 1000's of times in the NL by relievers not playing both sides of the ball.

As a Canadian and Toronto Blue Jays fan I used to watch Braves games on Peachtree Tv... I loved the strategy and yes 2 out and your 8 hitter is up early in the game can be a bit dull but more often than not there is strategy... I would say leave it the way it is and actually to people who dont watch baseball whenever I tell them about the difference they are very intruged...

Let the fans vote on it we are the ones watching and please fix this crazy replay I hate it

Leave it the way it fucking is. The game is changing a lot with tevhnology which is not necessarily a bad thing but this has nothing to do with technology. Leave it the way it is

What about this only 8 men bat in each league why do 9 men have to bat

completely agree with cliff, leave my league alone ripken

Add the DH to the NL, would rather see a Jorge Soler or a Franmil Reyes then Zach Greinke. Once the pitcher comes up to bat, it’s a joke. Usually taking until 2 Strikes then getting blown away by a fastball down the pipe.

If pitcher dont hit then its not ur problem they can atleast bunt.

Welp the NL got the DL

I hate the DH: so much better watching a NL game

The nl plays the game how its supposed to be played and thats that if anything the dh should either stay or go but its not coming to the nl. Back in the day the world series was open to fans of 2 leagues, now its fans of 2 teams because there are no differences between the al and nl anymore, i also hate this random inter league play. Its like taking the whole point out of the 2 mlb leagues and making it the 30 teams of mlb. The al and nl were made to compete for the world seties title, now most people dont even care about the 2 leagues, its they're favorite of 30 teams

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

DannyToons if you dont want it fine but dh should be standard for all interlaegue games because al pitchers dont run the bases and end up hurting themselves

There is 9 positions on the field those 9 should hit PERIOD end of story.

@mbdg6810

4 жыл бұрын

so if you're injured , hit! :p

@lettersfromhelen

3 жыл бұрын

Craig Kimbrel hit? Josh Hader? Mark Melancon even have a helmet?

here what im going to say what do people want to see in their first hockey/soccer great saves no they come to see goals game goals. what do people want to see in their first basketball game great blocking no slam dunks. what do people want to see in their first football game sacks no epic touchdowns. what do people want to see in their first baseball game a pitchers duel no tape measure home runs. what im saying people want to see offense. it what brings in new fans and in the future the nl will change to bring in new fans

I've always felt this... if we have interleague play, they have to use the same rules... so either both should have it.. or neither should have it... or my preferred method.. do away with interleague play completely during the regular season... because w/ interleague play.. it's not really leagues any more.. it more like the NFL w/ conferences..

Imagine the NFC getting 12 players on offense in the NFL. Baseball is hilarious.

What if the National League adjusted their rule? How about: 1) A Designated Hitter cannot play in back to back games. 2) Use of a pitcher as a Designated Hitter is the option of the Pitcher (in other words, a pitcher must make the ultimate decision if he wants to hit or not) This decision would ultimately be up to relievers as well. 3) No player can play at the Designated Hitter Position as a permanent position. So in a sense, the integrity if the game is kept intact, the Pitchers who are good at swinging the bat are able to if they want to. But, the advantage of resting players throughout the year while still using their bat is no longer only an advantage the American league can have. Let me know what you think?

@nagatamen5150

7 жыл бұрын

First for your point #2 technically the DH is an optional choice of the manager in the AL and I would like to see the pitcher make the choice but how many pitchers are going to be strong-armed into not hitting. For your other two options I like them because it makes all of the players technically play the field. However I would like to see the NL and AL have different rules as it makes it more fun to watch games as a fan of an AL team

@Matthew-qy7op

7 жыл бұрын

It would be different, but only in the first and third rules. There would be no Big Papi playing everyday on the bench. I think the national league is a fun league to watch, but only when a pitcher has the ability to hit, which we know most of the national league pitchers are liable to striking out or bunting and I think it really hurts the game having an automatic out in the game. Some pitchers like Sabathia have proven that they are a threat at the plate, and it's fun to watch, but most of the time it's not.

@Matthew-qy7op

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know how else to put it, but I understand your other point, that the pitcher may be strong armed into giving up his option for another player.

@nagatamen5150

7 жыл бұрын

I am going to say I like your rule and I think it would be interesting to see how it would change the MLB as a whole. The key factor of or the DH debate is having a consistent rule in both leagues with inter-league play occurring season round. I hope that just create a better inter-league schedule that either allows all teams to play each other or eliminate it completely.

@mbdg6810

4 жыл бұрын

i like the idea, exactly what i was thinking actually

Keep the leagues unique, get rid of Interleague play.

F the DH how many times did Roger Clemens hit guys with Yanks Boston & Toronto on purpose yet he didn't hit then & Pedro Martinez hit a guy when pitching in Montreal hit a Philly so they bean Pedro & he charges the mound. The DH is gonna allow pitchers to hit batters without nothing happening.

What baseball really needs is a fucking salary cap.

Hey Billy Ripken, that’s a great story but here is where you’re wrong; when you have a pitcher that can hit! It’s the fucking golden goose! Carlos Zambrano, Kerry Wood, John Lester! (I know, I’m a Cubs fan). You’re just taking away another great element of the game. Chess match no more. You’re never going to see a double switch with American League rules and that’s depressing. I hate the idea.

Pitchers def hit in high school lmao

The AL has a much smarter game than the NL. It makes no sense to have a .135 hitter in the lineup who strikes out 39% of the time, which is what NL pitchers did in 2016. This lowers the quality of the game, and the lack of base runners from the #9 slot means no strategy for the #1 slot to do. Also, it takes no brains at all to have a pitcher bunt, and those bunts amount to only 1 extra bunt every 8 games, anyway. The AL manager has to be more cerebral in deciding among several other options with his #9 hitter up: steal, hit and run, or swing away. Both leagues have to be equally careful in managing their bullpens, because each league averages just 5 2/3 innings from their starters, and only 3 complete games per team. This also means that pinch-hitting for a pitcher is not a big deal anymore, since both leagues will be removing their starter early anyway. The double-switch does nothing but lower the quality of the game even more by replacing a starter with a lesser player. So the AL will never dump the dh: putting a .135 hitter in their lineups would dumb down their game in exchange for nothing.

@phillies4100_mainsite

6 жыл бұрын

Yes but there are some pitchers who are good hitters!

@jackcaruso8844

6 жыл бұрын

Then they can DH

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

Not really. I looked at the lifetime batting average of all pitchers who were active in 2017 and had at least 400 AB's. The best was Greinke at just .217. Only 3 others batted over .200. To get a larger sample size I decided to include all active pitchers with 200 AB's, There were 54 of them, but still the top one was Greinke at .217 and only 3 others over .200. Half of the others were below .150. I don't call that good hitting.

Pitchers hit all of the time in high school.

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

This isn't high school. Pitchers can hit as well as the other players in lower level leagues, but not at the elite MLB level. This is proven by the fact that NL pitchers batted only .125 in 2017.

Every team I have been apart of has always had the pitcher bat. There was 1 tournament where they didn't let the pitcher bat that I played in out of probably 100 + tournaments. Offense and defense is apart of the game everyone should do both.

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

Relief pitchers are a significant part of today's game, yet they rarely play on offense.

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

What happens at lower levels of baseball is irrelevant. It takes so much elite talent to be either a MLB pitcher or hitter that very few could be at that level in doing both. NL pitchers batted just .135 in 2016, with a 39% strikeout rate, which should be totally unacceptable to any baseball fan. Who cares if the pitchers batted that poorly in those lower leagues? Millions of fans and billions of dollars are not involved there.

@gmason3688

6 жыл бұрын

NL relief pitchers don't do both, so why should a dh? Also, what happens in lower level leagues is irrelevant. In 2017, NL pitchers batted a meager .125, which creates too much of a dead spot in the order. In the lower leagues, pitchers generally hit as well as the other players, and even if they don't, who cares if you have a dead spot in the order in those leagues? You don't have millions of people watching, and the main purpose of those leagues is for the recreation of the players. At what level of league were your tournaments, and did the pitchers bat .125, and did anybody care how poorly they batted? I find a .125 average totally unacceptable in MLB. Any non-pitcher batting that poorly won't last long, but pitchers can keep doing it for a long career.

He said I don't see how the owners have ummm umm you know they spent millions some billions on the ballclub right and pay for everything for the ballclub and they should have every say in everything what is that guy talking about he's a clown for saying that

I think that pitchers should hit in both leagues. I understand that baseball is the only sport that you can fail 2/3rds of the time, and still be one of the best players of all time, but hitting the ball is 1/2 the game, so why does a pitcher get to skip out of half a game

@keithcrane3490

7 жыл бұрын

Hitting is only 8% of what a pitcher does, not 1/2. A pitcher with 32 starts has about 900 batters faced, 80 Plate Appearances, and 50 fielding chances = 1030. Then take the 80 PA divided by 1030 = 8%. Also relief pitchers rarely bat, so why should they get to skip batting?

Leave it alone. DH in AL. No DH in NL. It divides the leagues. It separates the leagues. It makes baseball twice as good period.

There's always been 9 players on each team in baseball. Not 10!

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

There are 25 players on a team in MLB. Any substitutes used make it more than just 9 versus 9 in a game, and almost every game has at least 1 sub on each team.

NL is dinosaur baseball. Vast majority of Millennials would rather watch sluggers hit home runs than pitchers bunting. Fail to adjust with the times at your own risk.

I'm a Jays fan and love the dh in the AL, but I would never want it in the NL. I like the difference between leagues.

@TheExecutoriscoolerthanyou

6 жыл бұрын

SuperStrik9 I agree. I like the Cardinals. I like the dh in the AL. but would be very angry if they added it in the NL

Canadian baseball for like high school and little league doesn't have a dh

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

This isn't Little League or high school. At those low levels pure athleticism is enough for numerous players being able to both pitch and hit well. So, pitchers at those levels can hit. But at the elite level of MLB, it is totally different: you need special talent. It is totally unrealistic to expect more than a few players to both pitch and hit at the elite MLB level.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

Buzzfeed Right in little league most kids still run to 3rd and the strain on thier bodies isnt as much as the majors the same goes for high school

There are two sides to baseball: offense and defense. If you're a baseball player, you play both sides of baseball. DHs are only playing half the game. Every player should play both sides of the game. Everyone plays the field, everyone hits. Drop the DH in the AL.

@lettersfromhelen

7 жыл бұрын

Tell that to every relief pitcher the league. Should we put them in the batting order? Every team in both leagues already has 6/7 part-time players on every roster who only play one side of the game. Most relief pitchers haven't been in the batters box or even held a bat in years. Why is that okay, but the DH isn't?

@SP.007

7 жыл бұрын

Most relief pitchers, in the NL, are taken out of the game before their turn in the order comes up, so it's limited. The DH just has to sit their and wait for his turn to bat, for the entire game. One thing i wouldn't mind seeing is a Hybrid position in the Batting order for the DH and Starting Pitcher. At any point in the game, if the Starting Pitcher is replaced, the DH must take the field, to remain in the game. The incoming pitcher would then take the spot of the out going player in the batting order. This way you start the game the game the AL way, and most likely, end it the NL way.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

Jack Stern tell that to Chien-Ming Wang running the bases ended his pitching

The DH cheapens the game by rewarding losers who cant play both sides of the field. This isnt little league.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

GuyVelella most dh's arent 1 trick ponies. In most cases teams use dh's as a way to give a feilder some time off

@thedoc77777

6 жыл бұрын

Lol. Pitchers batting are cheap outs. And based on your logic, pitchers are clearly losers who can't play offense. Anyway, this whole topic made me realize that no hitters in the AL are more impressive and worth more than no hitters in the NL because they don't get the cheap outs.

You cannot be a productive batter if you only face live at-bat every 5th day like these NL pitchers. No way. You cannot find a grove in that setup, which is why these pitchers are perennial bad hitters. So let's just stop it and put a DH in there to solve the problem once for all.

@salaciouspancakes

7 жыл бұрын

Navaro Palm Why not just take the DH rule out of the AL?

@sharendavis9216

7 жыл бұрын

Meta Morph He just told you why

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

Because the AL has nothing to gain by putting a .135 hitter in their lineups. The so-called "strategy" connected with having the pitcher bat is too routine and obvious to be any fun.

I love it dh lets go dodgers✌️👌☝🏽

No

why cant all 30 teams have a 10 man line up. 1 pitcher 1 DH and all other positions.

@gmason3688

7 жыл бұрын

You miss the point of the dh entirely. It's purpose is to get the terrible hitting of the pitchers out of the lineup: they batted only .135 with a 39% strikeout rate in 2016. DH's are not super-hitters better than everybody else: just a lot better than pitchers. The point is not to add hitters, but to replace a terrible one.

Well this didnt age well.

No. The American League needs to return to the real game and eliminate the DH. Baseball is a game where players play both ways. If the National League institutes the DH, I will never watch or listen to a game again... let alone pay to do so.

@VMan29397

6 жыл бұрын

longlakeshore the al will never get rid of the dh and it will go to the nl mark my words

Let’s all play by national league rules